Why Do We Need Final Fantasy VII HD

Yoichi Wada was asked about when the Final Fantasy VII remake will come to fruition. His controversial answer got a lot of people questioning whether or not the company has any vested interest in remaking their most popular game.

We at Twinfinite ask the question of whether a thing like this is even possible while still living up to everyone's expectations.

[Snookies12]

It is easily possible... Just don't go overboard with it. Give it "presentable" graphics on par with or maybe a bit better than that of say Crisis Core. Have the backgrounds redone (NOT CHANGED). Spruce up some attacks, add new materia, add new places, add new enemies/bosses, just as extras, add more chocobos/mini-games at the Golden Saucer. Don't touch the story, don't touch the dialog, no need for voice acting either unless it's really necessary and they can provide good ones.

Most of those things are optional, just make the character models and places look better (we do NOT need it looking as good as FFXIII. Just as long as it's around Late-PS2 quality).

[Lovable]

"It is easily possible"

LOL. Did you really said that?

Anyways, if they're gonna make a remake, might as well make it top notch not a half ass upgrade.

[Snookies12]

Yes I did say that, it's not like they have to go through the process of making an entirely new story, new characters, decide how events will play out... The game is THERE. Just mold it into something more presentable. So yes EASILY possible, Enix just doesn't care enough about their fanbase anymore to attempt it, either that or they're scared they'll mess everything up.

[Lovable]

Do you even have any idea how much it would cost just to get it remade with current tech? Do you also get the reason why remade was done on handhelds? Is it possible? Yes. Is it "easily possible?" NO.

[zeal0us]

I love FF7 a lot but we really don't need a remake. SE should just focus on the rest of their projects instead of keep add more to the list.

[Snookies12]

Lol, are you people missing my point or what? I'm saying it would be much easier to rework FF7 than it would be to make a completely new game from scratch. A majority of the work is already done for them, the game is right there. Sure it's going to cost a good bit of money and take a lot of development time, but do they not realize just how much money they'd make off of it? Just from people's nostalgia alone?

[bow2yoda]

in order to remake ff7 even with ps2 graphics, it would have to be done from scratch. the engine is completly out dated and they would most likely use unreal 3 to make said game. if you have to remake the game it is a waste of time to use old tech!

[darthv72]

I dont think there is anyone that truly "needs" it. There sure are plenty who "want" it though.

In some cases, the release of something in a remastered form (be it movies, music or games) can sometimes lead to the devaluing of the original.

Obvioulsy from the collectors POV they will want the original. Any subsequent releases to be minimal so to keep the value of the original as high as possible.

the positive side of a re-release is that more people can get one and see what the craze was about.

[FriedGoat]

Lol at unreal engine 3.

[SilentNegotiator]

Easy. Don't worry, I'll make it this afternoon during my lunch hour.

They wouldn't go 'moderate' if they remade FF7. They would need to GO overboard, or else it wouldn't fair well in its reception.

[Reibooi]

@Snookies12

Really did you read what you wrote? Not only would it not be easy to remake the game(we will get to that in a moment) but you honestly think the game can get by WITHOUT a script rewrite and VO? Have you played the original game recently? The dialog was riddled with horrible translation errors. People don't seem to remember just how bad FFVII's original translation was. On top of that nearly every RPG has VO these days so releasing a remake of one of the biggest of all time without is borderline retarded.

On to the amount of work. People don't seem to remember that PSone era FF games were basically 3D character models against pre rendered backdrops. NOTHING from the PS1 era could be reused. They would from the ground up have to build these environments for 3D something they were never meant to be and that means massive work and that isn't even considering the world map(something most modern J-RPG's don't even do anymore because of the resources needed)

FFVII's(hell any of the PSone era FF's) scale was MASSIVE when compared to what we have today. The freedom you had back then was immense and doing that with a engine of today would cost a metric crap ton of money. That isn't even taking into account the voice acting or the script rewrite.

So basically yeah they know what they need to do but nothing could be reused. Script would need rewriting, graphically they would be using nothing and would have to refer to concept art(if it still even exists), They would need to add VO, Have the entire soundtrack redone by Uematsu, possibly add Yuffie and Vincent into the game as not side characters since they are mainstays in the fiction now. I mean it would be a TON of work. Even though they have a idea of what they are doing from a technical standpoint they might as well be making a entirely new game.

[Trebius51]

The unreal engine has brought us a lot of games (because its so easy to utilize) but has made devs lazy. That engine is garbage compared to the ones developers use to build games from the ground up. That said ... if they remake it with something as ridiculous as Unreal Tech which wouldnt even work well for an RPG (imho) it would be terrible.

Just put aside a small team to remaster it ... thats all we ask, or better yet, announce that itll NEVER happen, stop teasing it ... and just work on getting your already promised titles out. You know .... like that certain one that people bought a PS3 for at launch but still havent gotten...???

[sikbeta]

@Snookies

It's not, SE takes 4 years and release a corridor game (XIII), 6 years and still no Versus, doing VII-R would take them 2 gens without gimping the whole game

[MRMagoo123]

I dont want them to add stuff at all i just want a spruced up version to ps3 graphics nothing else is needed imo just the same exact game with alot better graphics.

[guitar_nerd_23]

When Crisis Core came out I thought they were getting ready to do it on PSP because of all the dotted lines to other areas that couldn't be crossed.

[abc1233]

It's not easily possible at all to make a game as massive as FF7 using current gen graphics. Consider how long they took making XIII which had a much smaller world than VII. There's no point whatsoever making a remake on the current gen consoles now, if anything they should wait until the next gen.

[wishingW3L]

FF13-2 is much more bigger than FF13 and it only took them like a year.

[Lovable]

@wishingW3L

You can't be serious. FF 13-2 reused the same place over and over again. It's not necessarily bad since it's the nature of the story, but surely Archlyte step on FF 13 alone is bigger than all the places in FF 13-2 combined!

[Hozi]

I just want Square-Enix to release FFVersus already. If they announce a remake for 7, there is no way that we will see that game anytime soon.

P.S-Yoichi Wada said they will only remake FF7 when they have surpassed ff7 in another game. Our only hope is Versus13.

[Darth_Bane79]

THEY HAVENT EVEN FINISHED VERSUS OR EVEN STARTED WORKING ON KINGDOM HEARTS 3, AND YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO FF VII??? GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!

[illizit]

I think if they made it like Mass Effect, it is DEFINITELY profitable. Imagine having the tiny cities (like Mass Effect planets) and a similar world map. Obviously, the cities would have to be redone and would take a while, but Mass Effect was such a huge game and they were able to do it.

[Ranma1]

S Q U A R E - E N I X is incapable of making a single FF game BETTER than the WORST main series FF game made by S Q U A R E S O F T.

They have proven this time and time again, hence i dont trust them to make an FF7 remake without making it mediocre at best (they will mess it up somehow, its SE)

[VanillaBear]

Can they just make the bloody game

I want a FF8 remake...that isn't going to happen untill they do a FF7 remake....great, FF8 fans have to wait even longer.

[Snookies12]

I want an 8 and 9 remake... Though honestly, 8 would do better with that. Considering they have all pretty real-world looking characters. FF9 would be tricky with ones like Amarant and Steiner... Could you imagine them in HD? LOL!

[Dravidian]

Well....we're already getting a FFX remake soooo....

[smashman98]

Not a remake a remaster

[Dravidian]

@Smashman98: I didn't believe you( you're lack of a link vs my memory) so I decided to look it up myself. You, sir or madam, are correct. I must therefore apologize to anyone I misinformed.

You're a good man/woman, smashman98 (Iprefer not to judge gender from name or pic).

EDIT:more bubbles for you

[TheLyonKing]

I would love an ff 8 remake more than a 7 any day that game was easily the better out the two hands down. Will probably get disagrees for it but I don't care am embracing the truth.

Things is I would rather them remake when they are on their last legs, I honestly would prefer them to keep trying with the new fantasies and if it keeps under selling then yes remake 7 that will give them money cause people will buy it and then remake 8 XD then 9!

[WildArmed]

FF8!
Yess, would love a remake of that.
Or even a spiritual successor with the badass junction system.

[ChickeyCantor]

As long they are bringing FF5 and FF6 to the 3DS...Im pretty sure one day FF7 will be done one day.

I wonder if they are not remaking FF7 because they would want to make it a multiplat. But sony holds some publishing rights or something?

[Lovable]

I don't think Sony holds the publishing rights for FF 7 since it's also being release in Steam(correct me if I'm wrong)?

[manasteel88]

they could still own the rights on console distribution.

[Brownghost]

Yeah it's coming on steam with achievements and leader boards

[ChickeyCantor]

That was released by Eidos...ironically.

[USEYOURFIST]

sony holds some of the rights and are a sharehoder in square and woud probably try very hard to block it from multiplat id imagine

[shodaime]

a sequel would atleast be better

[smashman98]

There has been a sequel and a prequel and a movie Ido why they don't remake it
Sure it would be expensive but risky it would not atleast in terms of profit

[slaton24]

i would like to see something with genesis considering he does survive...if u collection all G-files it shows the ending...if thats the prequal to FF7 than we have advent children and then dirge of cerberus than what happens to genesis.In my opinion with that missing detail they should remake FF7 and make a FF7-2 just to deal with genesis return....i myself would like to see something atleast with genesis if nothing comes man what a cliffhanger

[Canary]

Calling it "Final Fantasy HD" makes me think a XIII-style CGI-fest version of FF7 in with Advent Children's aesthetic.

That's not a good idea.

A simple PSN/Vita/3DS remake in the vein of Chrono Trigger DS would be much better. Rewrite the script a little bit (and re-translate it), maybe add in a few sidequests or whatnot, a new game plus feature, and replace all of the 2D art.

And then also either replace the (awful) 3D models with sprites, or better 3D models. I'd argue for the former over the latter, but there you go.

It wouldn't cost much money to produce, could be sold on EVERY current gaming platform relatively easy, and would rake in an enormous profit.

It's kind of a no-brainer.

So, of course, Square Enix won't do it.

[Elda]

We need FF versus & FF-XV & Kingdom Hearts 3.

[Unlimax]

And Parasite eve "3" .. not The 3rd birthday !

[tweet75]

id much rather have a final fantasy XV that is as good or better than VII in every way.

[wishingW3L]

with Toriyama on board I wouldn't expect any future FF games to be good again. FFvs is the only game that still has a chance since he's not involved with it.

[Raka]

as long it remains sony exlcusive it will be alright

[SephirothX21]

How about a new FF game that's actually good and not westernized.

[smashman98]

Why do you only have one bubble

[iamtehpwn]

I still can't forget out how XIII was westernized. Have any of you played Western RPG's? They're complete opposite of Final Fantasy XIII. What's westernized about a Pink haired and bleach blonde protagonist with gravity defying hair, a Futuristic Japanese environment, ridiculous weapons and hair?

[limewax]

The fact that the linear level design and general structure of the game was influenced by call of duty. It was westernized but not in the way you may expect. It wasn't visual but structural.

[vyke3]

@limewax

You can't possibly be serious. Call of Duty? Really? So FF XIII a shooter now? WTF? You could've made the argument that the game was influenced by the hundreds of linear Japanese/Western RPGs and that Square Enix is lazy. BTW don't give them any ideas for their next games.

[limewax]

"Here's how that relates to Call of Duty, in Toriyama's mind."

"In that sense it's more similar to an FPS genre, like Call of Duty," he said. "That's not to say it's an action shooting game at all, so Final Fantasy XIII takes some different aspects of different genres, transcending different types of games."

http://kotaku.com/5470533/f...

[Chrono]

No need for it. They should remake FF6.

[Jirachi]

Agreed I just hope if the game is remade they don't use the final fantasy iv ds remake graphics(they were fine in cut scenes but looked like ass in normal gameplay)

And please,please fix the third save file glitch(I would love to be able to actually use all 3 files without losing my save data)

[SirBradders]

Considering Square's track record in recent years i think they should take a break from FF for a wile remake 7,8,9 because i no they have a huge fanbase and would definitly attract more to the games and franchise as a whole by re-releasing them.

In that breather they take ask the fans submit ideas for story's to them and pic the most intriging one and go with it.

Also they wouldnt take that long to make because have their work is cut out for them all they have to do is re-model the world in HD.

[Tetsujin]

I want "Squaresoft" to do the remake, I refuse to let Square Enix even TOUCH FF7, or any other FF games for that matter.

[grassyknoll]

Don't bother remaking FFVii, it's never gonna match the nostalgia when playing the original. Think about what made it great (open world, varied settings, memorable storyline & characters) & place it in a new game.

[MWH]

no this gen, the next would be ideal platform for a remake.

[USEYOURFIST]

i think a remake is the wrong way to go purley becuase they just wouldnt be able to resist messing with the core mechanics of the game, personally i think they should just upgrade the graphical detail of character/enimes/summons/ magic ect and redo the cutsceens but leave everything else such as backgrounds as it is. this wouldnt take anywhere near as long or as costly as remake and they would get away with selling it at full retail price, package it in a special edition celebrating 25years of final fantasy n would make a killing

[supremacy]

well i often look at games like skyrim or grandtheftauto as small possible tamplate to remaking such a massive rpg.

I mean, GTA san andreas had some sections you had to travel to, and still while the premise of these games are different the scope of each game are similar in a technical sense.

Now if what you want is to go all out and turn that trailer into a full blown game, then it wouldnt be as feasible.

One thing i will agreed on is the characters are a handful and each have their long list of lines to the story. In all honesty this game wouldnt take Grandturismo years to remake as some would suggest.

What this is all about is money, DRM,DLC and all those politics involve in the matter.

Both shenmue and metal gear solid are another example of games which could be remade easily.

Shenmue would be a bit harder, but with the advances in todays and tomorrows technology it shouldn't take sega long to do what naughty dog did in one scene with uncharted two.

And as for mgs all it would really take is for kojima to expand on the outer heaven mission in mgs4, using those same assets and remodeling the old cast up to par its all theres to it really.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

remakeing the final fantasy everyone thinks is the best is like admiting they cant do better. FFXV Plz and versusXIII PLZ. Also if they are gonna remake 7 atleast show consitency and remake FFV and FFVI. I want something NEW not something I can just go back and play on PSN.

[CLOUD1983]

A lot of ppl keep on saying that some scenes in FFVII could never work with PS3-like graphics like for example the scene where Cloud dress as a woman or the scene where they do a mini-sketch on the theater at Gold Saucer, I will give u a very good example to make u understand that everything can work as long they spent some time to make it right.

My example is simple let's get Robin Williams an actor mostly comedian but not only, have u ever see the movie where he dress like a woman? I speak for "Mrs. Doubtfire" this guy can play roles like this one brilliant but he can also play dramatic ones like on "Good Will Hunting" where he win an OSCAR for his performance, graphics on HD consoles r that good atm that the characters in many cases look so real like a real human being, it is possible to make Cloud disguised realistically as a woman and still make it look funny I truly believe it.

Watching comedy anime for many years and even some live adaptations of those anime I can say with absolute certainty that JPN dont lack on comedy field, on the contrary for me they r one of the best in the world, so it's on their hands to make a character look serious & dramatic when needed & silly & goofy depended on the occasion.

[gazgriff2k12]

I don't still got memory's of the original ps1 game.
plus ive got a massive back catalog of new games to play.

[Adityac]

Oh god just no STOP!

[Kte]

The guy stated that they would re-make once the "FF Franchise" is over....so maybe that's not too far away? I say that because they are drowning as it is. To keep it real, they don't understand something that us gamers do (which is really pathetic as we are young adults and they are old adults) people are asking/demanding for a FF7 remake in HD...there are ALOT of people asking, which means there are ALOT of people willing to buy it...why would the franchise be over if they re-created it? If they remade it, the franchise would be revived...specially with the amount of gamers who really want the game. Myself included

[explicitbaron]

Simple answer we don't. We need FFVIII HD.

[bangoskank]

We don't need either. If any FF deserves to be remade it should be VI but Square Enix would just fuck it up. I'm done with Square and will look to Atlus and Level 5 for stellar RPG's.

[OooHJohnny]

Well... I wouldn't mind a FFVII HD if it means shorter loading screens.

[BertlSenix]

I hope it will never happen or at least as an Sony Exclusive.

I don't want to see Barret look now like Chris Brown and Aeris like Lady Gaga and such shit.
It should be Sony only cause this is where the biggest part of the FF Fanbase is.
Cause then they will make it for the right audience...Fuck the USA and the Call of Duty Community every Japanese idiot developer wants to develop for.

And of course the XBox won'T hold the graphics back.
We all know how far superior PS3 Exclusives look and they will look better on the PS4 too.
The new Xbox won't have any chance against PS4 Exclusives cause the machine is superior.

[Drabent]

We don't...just FFXIV for ps3^^

[Tzuno]

oh god please help this desperate people :) again???

[Jirachi]

Well maybe the fanboys of ff7 will actually play the game again(99% the only played 1 or 2 times when then game came out) and remember the game is not as good as there nostalgia googles lead them to believe(read:not saying ff7 is terrible but calling ANY GAME the best game ever is over rating it hell even my favorite game ever i some times say to me self maybe i over rated it)

[CLOUD1983]

For any1 of us best game ever is the one that make us feel all kind of emotions when we first play it & stay the most memorable even after all this years & for me those games is FFVII & Xenogears, & Suikoden II follow right beside them, & btw I have finish FFVII 24 times and in total I have spent more than 2000 hours playing it I didn't spent so much time with any other game so yes for me FFVII is BEST GAME EVER!

[jjb1981]

Someone should make a graphics mod for the pc version...

[mistajeff]

done and done

http://kotaku.com/5910318/y...

[helghast102]

To keep the "long time fans" shut up long enough that SE can listen to actual criticisms and praise from people who don't just want FF7 sequels and remakes.
Fuck FF "fans".

[Seraphemz]

I would love to play it on the vita !!!

can wait for 10 to come out !!!

[rataranian]

...Remember when you asked for more Star Wars movies? =\

[crxss]

yes we need a FF7 Remake. SE has ruined the entire universe with crappy compilation works (FF7 AC, DoC, etc.). SE needs to redeem themselves with a Remake that doesn't mess up anything! We liked FF7 the way it was, if the story changes in any way then they have failed.

[TheDivine]

No way people will hate it no matter how good it is because somethings different plus those 6 yrs of resources could build a new game we havent played. I say remaster it like Nintendo did Zelda OOT. Replace character and enemies with nice looking models, new effects, and add some graphical touches on the ground and map exc. It could be done with a small team in a year and then release it on 3ds and vita, it will sell 20 million AND it wont conflict with anyones nostalgic memories of it.

Other than that make new games not old ones. I dont mind remakes of super old nes/snes games and remastering n64 games works well but not every game needs a remake and its not that old yet. It still looks good on small screens so get a handheld.

[Run_bare]

Don't remake it if they can't do it properly, I rather they take their time and release something else like VERSUS XIII.. where is that game?

I Love FF VII, I agree with Wada for the first time, I rather them not screwing it up and destroy my childhood memories.

[Skateboard]

Versus XIII should be priority uno.

[Flipgeneral]

Don't ruin what is a priceless experience. I don't want to associate FFVII with a bad taste in my mouth. A remake will never recreate that unforgettable experience that we had many years ago.. NEVER

[stragomccloud]

I say... go back to the original background assets.... render it in actual 3D... may or maybe not touch it up... Keep all of the original angles, then just redo thee Character models in the same style as the original, and redo all of the pre rendered cutscenes.
That way it saves the company a lot of money, and preserves the feel of the original. Bam! That's what I want~

Heck even if they reworked the game to just support 16:9, ran some filters on the backgrounds, and then redid the character models I'd be happy with that~

However, keep the original intended style!

[ElementX]

Everyone is crying out for a FFVII remake and to be honest, I played it and really don't remember anything about it other than some of the character names. I don't see what the big draw is.

[avengers1978]

FF VII was by far my favorite RPG... I would love an updated remake but not if there going to half ass it. Utilized the new tech, and build something great from the ground up.