Ubisoft: Splinter Cell is Not Call of Duty and it Never Will Be, Promises More Night-Time Gameplay

GR: "Ubisoft reveals Blacklist will involve a more traditional night-time gameplay, doesn't want the the franchise to copy Call of Duty."

[Patriots_Pride]

LMAO....UBI trying to get some media attention by trying to make an argument that does not even excise.

We can see the Splinter Cell never was or never will be anything like COD...the only similarities they have is that have soldiers in them...I mean SC is a TPS for crying out loud.

Is this what gaming has come to? Where everyone in the gaming industry is trying to catch up to COD and try to steal some of it thunder.

Implying that your good is not COD when no one ever said it did is just pathetic.

EDIT: Some times I am thankful that games like Half Life Ep3 or Timesplitter 4 were not released this gen......SMH....developers need to start focusing on making a game fun instead of caring about Call of Duty.

[TekoIie]

"LMAO....UBI trying to get some media attention by trying to make an argument that does not even excise".

Ubi seems to love bringing these things up. I mean when the AC3 stuff about only killing british people began to die down WHAM!!! Ubi spark it up again with Tobuscus at E3 pointing out Britain is the enemy and not the Templars.

Although credit to them since this form of marketing costs NOTHING money wise. But it will cost them our respect to an extent.

[jetlian]

yea well fighting heli's in day light is more cod than SC!!!

[ApolloAdams]

What does being Call of Duty even mean? All it ever did was take what other shooters did right and put it into one game.

Also why is CoD the poster boy of the console shooting genre? Doesn't Halo take that?

[Paragon]

"What does being Call of Duty even mean?"

It means appealing to the mainstream by being very similar to the Call of Duty games.

[ShoryukenII]

You clearly haven't been on the internet for the past five years. Welcome back.

[Kinect]

The irony is Halo reach copies many elements from COD

[theWB27]

I distinctly remember being able to kill in the first splinter cell. I also distinctly remember being able to sneak around in conviction. Just because Sam has become more lethal doesn't mean you can't still sneak around. Gamers fall off the deep end when things advance in their favorite games.

[Lord_Sloth]

Here's the thing...It didn't really advance. It just adopted a cover system, tossed some chest high walls around, and designed the game around killing everything in sight. Most of the rooms are impossible to get through without killing every1 in there! Every level has areas like this, whereas in the older titles you could get through most levels without even KOing a single opponent.

The stealth isn't tactical anymore. It's just picking them off while they look for you until somebody sees you and turns it into a shooter.

It has stealth, just not very fun stealth as the old games had.

I did like Conviction but it faltered in comparison to it's predecessors and I believe Blacklist will do the same. I hope it doesn't but believe it will.

[BlackKnight]

Stealth has almost completely been removed/simplified to please shooter/mainstream gamers.

Splinter Cell is/was a stealth game but greed, once again, has dragged another game from its genre and blurred it into more of a shooter (Mass effect, Crysis, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, and others have had their own ways to play but now shooting like rambo is the main mechanic and by far the easiest and quickest).

Splinter Cell used to have a light meter showing how much light was on you and the likely hood of detection. Now its either you are hidden or not. Super simplified.

They used to have an ability to control your movement speed beyond the run/walk/crouch that conviction has. In conviction, if you run you can be heard, but crouched or walking NO one will hear you no matter the surface you walk on in conviction, simplified again. Chaos Theory had it best. You had full movement speed control, a sound meter that showed the sound you make AND the ambient sound around you. So if you are near a running engine or a lightning strike hits, you are afforded to move a little faster cause no one can hear it over the ambient nose. Also the SURFACE you walked on mattered, grass could be run on and almost be perfectly silent while gravel required almost the slowest movement speed. ALL OF THIS was thrown out to make it easier for the masses.

Used to have 3 vision modes and instead merged it all into 1 sonar goggle system. The night vision/thermal that was a staple of SC is now gone and still gone in Blacklist.

Sam was never a killer unless he HAD to. The previous games even lowered your rating if you killed guards and such instead of knocking out (requires more skill). Sometimes you went into a bank and these guards are just doing a normal, not-illegal job; it would be fucked up to kill them. Conviction, even if you sneak up to someone, there is only 1 button to press now, which says "Kill or use as human shield". Another simplification and change of character for Sam, too much change and not explained by Double Agent (DA has 3 different stories as well due to the cluster fuck of a release on different plats/devs) OR Conviction.

Sam also suddenly became 25 years old and twice his size in muscle with a shade of gray in his hair and moves almost 4x as fast climbing. Just more simplification/ADD changes for mainstream.

There is much more that was simplified like the AI (which no longer sees doors being left open, and only reacts to lights being broken if they hear the gun shot/bullet impact) and more.

It really makes me wonder how ubisoft was allowed to make such horrible changes to Tom Clancy's style when in the first Splinter Cell Ubisoft and Clancy argued over thermal vision in the game (Clancy said thermal/night vision hybrid is not possible in the field and he insists on the game being close to realism as possible as far as facts).

It is really sad to see a stealth action game (one of the best ever) now become (as you can see by the top post here, people see it as a TPS and have no idea what was lost) a TPS where you can kinda sneak around but still only murder everyone.

Check out this multipart video on Splinter Cell:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

The series is dead now, it's simply a cash grab that has some left over tiny bits of stealth but now just another TPS.

[Sidewinder-]

Cheeres for the vid and the talk.

Here, let me run you a bubble bath.

[theWB27]

No retort from me....good points all around! : )

[Kinect]

Holy shit this motherf*kn good sir speaks the truth

[BlackKnight]

Thanks for the replies all.

Splinter Cell used to be one of my favorite game series. The stealth aspect was just amazing. It's so sad what has happened (as well as to other games).

To clarify, a friend gifted me Conviction on Steam when they heard me talk how awesome Chaos Theory was. They didn't know why I didn't own it. I played the game just to BE SURE its not as bad as I read or as bad as the demo they released but it was just as I thought.

Completely simplified for mainstream :(

[Zha1tan]

Where to even begin?

[CaptCalvin]

They're assuming gamers this gen are so lazy they can't even be bothered to check the map on the wrist PDA anymore. That's why they plastered the walls with instructions in Conviction. That's even more condescending than CoD/BF with the waypoint markers.

[morganfell]

My issue with Ubisoft making this statement is, well, it's Ubisoft. This is the company that utterly destroyed Ghost Recon and Rainbow6 to attract more casual, less patient, flash in the pan, instant gratification Call of Duty Gamers.

This is the company that stated the latest Ghost Recon was a thinking man's shooter and then proceeded to use T&A to try and market the game. Outside of that it hardly required any thinking at all.

This is also the company that created Splinter Cell and then utterly obliterated the franchise.

"Look, hiding bodies isn't an essential mechanic of Splinter Cell."

Okay Francois.

[frostbite06]

I'll give you splinter cell and ghost recon, but not Rainbow Six (although there were some terds like lockdown)

One could even argue that COD 4 (Modern Warefare) borrowed heavly from the Rainbow Six series (Persistent Elite Creation system)

[BlackKnight]

Rainbow Six has been reduced to a simple TPS. Try to play Rouge Spear or Raven Shield. Before each mission you had a planning phase and could plan it all out and then, if you choose, NOT PLAY as one of the team and just watch the AI carry out your carefully crafted plan and see if you REALLY have tactics.

Another game pulled away from is genre and blurred into the TPS/FPS easy rambo money grabbing BS that games are becoming this gen.

[Soldierone]

So? I never said it was COD, I said its another Ghost Recon....which Ubisoft seems to be turning all their games into...

Honestly Ubisoft feels like that writer that has one idea then spreads the idea to all their stories. Notice how almost all of their games have a basis in "the future" with "futuristic" weapons now? Even Assassins Creed's main story is like that.

Problem for me? I never really cared for GRAW. I always LOVED Rainbow Six and Splinter Cell, then they changed Splinter Cell.....and now I lost that one (Remember when you were literally better off sneaking, or you were screwed?). Then I see Rainbow Six and I thought I was looking at GRAW again....I hope they didn't ruin that one too.

[2pacalypsenow]

Diferent voice actor no Splinter cell stealth = No slinter cell = No buy

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Whoa!? Who said Splinter Cell is gonna be like Cod? OMG... So hes taking out middle estern enemies out in broad day light, ok so? I love how Every scenario that involves the middle east, shooting, or anything similar, has a direct relation to cod. Game journalists are sad, they have to see cod in almost everything...

[Rock_On_PS4]

Call of Duty is the greatest shooter series of all time. Splinter Cell series sucks and it is a poor man's Metal Gear Solid and it is now a poor wannabe Call of Duty clone.

Game players have short attention spans and Call of Duty games appeal to the mass audiences. The sales of Call of Duty in comparison to most other shooter game series clearly show Call of Duty is the greatest.

Sales is a better barometer for success than critical reviews.

[Yomaster]

There wasn't a single sentence in this post that I didn't find myself laughing hysterically at. Seriously, thanks for a great laugh. I don't remember the last time I laughed so hard! Bravo!

P.S.: I REALLY hope you're trolling. Hahahaha
P.P.S.: You probably aren't. LMFAOOOOO

[Lord_Sloth]

Sales do judge success yet not quality. Proof? Justin Beiber.

Splinter Cell=poor MGS for short attention spans?

That may be true now, but last gen Splinter Cell was hella awesome! It's stealth was fun and the levels were great! You, sir should re-assess your statement!

[Rock_On_PS4]

I have only played the current generation Splinter Cell games. Well they were very ordinary. Splinter Cell fails at being a stealth game and falls way short of being a great COD style game.

[Yomaster]

Even Double Agent had stealth roots from the original and was better than SC:C, IMHO. Silly child, don't try to lie to us. If you had even seen SC:DA you'd know what kind of stealth game Splinter Cell used to be. Kid, it's quite apparent all you've touched is Conviction. You play one title out of all of them, and then say the whole series sucks? Spoken like a true CoD fanboy.

Splinter Cell fails at being a stealth game? LMFAO, do you even know what Chaos Theory is? Your remarks are laughable. The latest SC title was disappointing due to its "dumbing down" of the tactical stealth gameplay it once had. Conviction is a mere stain in a series of amazing games. All of this, thanks to poor decision-making by Ubisoft. Splinter Cell, as well as Ghost Recon, aren't the smart, tactical, and in-depth games they used to be, which is why fans of both series are outraged.

Stop blowing Activision, play some REAL games, and, please, get educated on the subject before you speak your mind, else you'll continue to make yourself look like a babbling idiot.

Maybe this will help:

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Curse you cod! Damn you to.... Wait a minute... Wait n minute isn't it the developers fault for trying to be like cod? Think of it like this sell a game like cod and make money fast and then make no money at all, or make a game (judging by the comments) like chaos theory and then have it sell not as much but for a longer period of time and perhaps winning more than 1 goty award... Just my opinion

[FarCryLover182]

Even if there are nighttime missions...doesn't make it Splinter cell. Double Agent current gen had many daytime levels and it was Splinter Cell to the core.

[nookyzooky]

i have played nd beat all of the splinter cells. i LOVED the stealth style the past four had, but was sad to see what Sc had become with convictions release. i hope blacklist is more like the first four splinter cells, otherwise i wont get it.

[nookyzooky]

and it dosent have to be nighttime to be a stealth game. in some of the missions in the first four(ex kinshasa in DA) you still had to sneak or you would be shot dozens of times by your enemies. in pandora tommorow the 4th mission you had to sneak in broaddaylight. as long as they dont make another 100 percent conviction version ill think about getting it. but there better be alot more sneaking!

[nookyzooky]

and to all of you COD fans who talk crap about SC but have only played conviction, your comments are HILAREOUS.mYou Kind of people should paly all of the first four, you will see how good SC used to be before ubisoft made that monstosoty. convicton is 10percent stealth. all your doing most of the time is shooting enemies nonstop, instead of having to sneak by them. that mark and execute crap is lame, you cant hide bodies, no alarms, One mission you had lasers to dodge, the rest?, run, shoot, punch, grenade, cover, shoot. the multiplayer in conviction is like a TP version of call of duty, you, run, shoot, you have to use shotguns and mgs almost all the time, players are CONSTANTLY throwing grenades at me. where is the stealth splinter cell fans have come to know and love? all i see is pure combat! iv actually played players that IMMIDIATLY get out the SCAR-H, and start shooting the place up. hopefully they bring spy verses mercs back, and not SCDAs version, running, and throwing a flashband IS NOT sneaking. otherwise SCDAs was great, but chaos theory was the best of them all