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The Greatest Games of All Time: Final Fantasy VII

The Final Fantasy series is one of the most significant franchises in video game history, responsible for numerous games that were both profound and critically adored. The series is also a veritable road map for how console role-playing games have progressed through multiple console generations, from its birth on the NES to later successes on Sony's consoles. Though fans of the franchise will argue until they run out of breath about which of the many great Final Fantasy games is the best, the name that frequently rises to the top of those discussions is the franchise's most influential game, Final Fantasy VII.

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Son_Lee4352d ago

To me it's the greatest game of all time, and has had the most influence on my life. Now, many will debate this and everyone has their own opinions, but what CAN'T be denied is the fact that FFVII really ushered in the era of RPGs and made them popular. Without FFVII, RPGs most likely wouldn't be relevant anymore.

MWH4352d ago (Edited 4352d ago )

don't mind the disagrees, these are mostly born in the late 80s and early 90s and their best games ever are either... my God i can't even start to imagine.

indeed, as gamers, we were the lucky one.

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HarryMasonHerpderp4352d ago (Edited 4352d ago )

@segamon
lol Sorry but that's rubbish. I was born in 1988 and FFVII is one of the best games I have ever played! I played it when i was 13 and it was my first RPG.

insomnium24352d ago (Edited 4352d ago )

Every single way you say DS? I would really like to see you prove that.

FF7 was the biggest thing for me back in the day. Couldn't imagine my gaming life without it. Killed Ruby and Emerald etc. Great times :´)

MWH4352d ago

@HarryMasonHerpderp and insomnium2

i'm really glad to hear that.

nintendojunkie284352d ago

I was born in the early 80's...I still consider it the greatest.

slayorofgods4352d ago

I agree. People born in that time frame and were able to buy FF7 when it first came out are the ones that realize just how epic that game was at that time.

Sure, it paved the way for a explosion in jrpg's, but no game has really captured how big FF7 was at that time. It's a lot harder for people that started at FFX or ME to go back and really appreciate what the game meant.

oNIXo4352d ago

@slayorofgods

I was born in '82 I bought FFVII, with money I earned, when it came out. The only way it was better than a hand-full of other games was in the graphics.

You say its hard for people that didn't play games when VII came out to really appreciate what it did to the genre? By the same token, it's hard for kids that started playing RPGs when VII came out to fully understand what massive harm it did to RPGs.

FF VII isn't even in my top 20 RPGs, just because all of the crap it spawned. I've been playing games for decades, my daughter is starting at a young age, I love all kinds of games, but FF VII was made for people that couldn't handle other RPGs. It was dumbed down and the story was crap. If you have to go on forums to "understand" what was going on in the game and find the hidden meaning, then the story was crap.

MRMagoo1234351d ago

I was born in 1981 and i think its the best game i have ever played , if they do a hd remake i would be the happiest person alive.

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oNIXo4352d ago

There were tons of RPGs before VII came out. VII just introduced them to the masses. It seems to me, the people that say we wouldn't have RPGs if it weren't for FFVII didn't grow up with a SNES.

Fishermenofwar4352d ago

final fantasy 11 was epic on SNES..Cronotrigger much??

I'm an older gamer and Snes was my RPG haven

Final fantasy VII wqas epic though

After leveling up Aerith...Old sephy kilss her!!!

DAMN YOU!!!! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!

oNIXo4352d ago

FF II (I think that's what you're talking about) was a great game, but there were a shit ton of good RPGs that came out for the SNES. Robotrek was one of my favorites.

MRMagoo1234351d ago

i grew up with atari and i still think ff7 was the rpg of all rpgs then maybe ff10

brish4352d ago

I think the greatest game of all time is Chess.

It's the only game I'm aware of that is still played thousands of years after it was created.

A thousand years from now I think people will still play chess.

GuyThatPlaysGames4352d ago

There will always be haters of this series (yes the past 5 games have been terrible), but FFVII is still the greatest game EVER!!!! Alongside with Legend of Legaia :)

slayorofgods4351d ago (Edited 4351d ago )

I disagree. I don't think any of the FF games in the main series are bad.
FF7 was epic
FF8 had so much improvements it's impossible to call bad
FF9 was one of my favorites in the series but largely overshadowed by the PS2 release
Everyone likes FF10,
FF12 is another of my favorites but it was different so got some hate (although it is one of the most well produced games in the series)
and FF13 for all it's hate we all still like to play through it.

DudeJets4351d ago

You see I loved 7
8 was ok I just hated rinoa
9 was superb I loved feel of the era .
10 was enjoyable brilliant but lame twist
12 I couldn't even finish
13 I didn't get half way through.

Really vibrate what has happened to the series

forevercloud30004352d ago

It is definitely my greatest game of all time. Loved almost everything about that game.

Were there other great games before and after it? Sure

Yet will there ever be a game that will remain so relavent and keep people talking even after all this time? Probably not to FFVII's extent.

I think that awards this game the title.

miyamoto4352d ago

Final Fantasy VII was a revolutionary game on an equally revolutionary console the PSX

just as PSX made console gaming legit FFVII made RPG or JRPG legit

Back in the days when Square was Square: a super pure creative force.

I have played FF VI, Chrono Trigger, Phantasy Star IV, Breath of Fire, Chrono Cross, Albert Odyssey, Secret of Mana etc ... to death .... but imho FF VII had more impact on gaming and the masses than all of these combined.

zekk4352d ago

personally liked ff vi better......

vallencer4352d ago

Im surprised it took this many replys' for this lol. 6 is definently awesome.

Son_Lee4352d ago

I was born in 1988 and I started with the very first FF and played nearly every console RPG ever released, even to this day, only missing the Dreamcast ones. FFVII is still my favorite, followed by FFX/FFVIII.

zekk4351d ago

.....i got 2 disagrees on my personal opinion....
does that mean that people dont think i like ffvi better?

SirBradders4351d ago

I was born in 90 so i was 7-8 at the time and this truly made me fall in love with rpg's when 8 & 9 came out i made my mum pre-order them for me at the shop with a strategy guide (I was young, was abit hard not gonna lie lol) If it wasnt for this game i probably would never have liked RPG's SPOILER: cried when aerith died :-(

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nintendojunkie284352d ago (Edited 4352d ago )

I feel the exact same way.I'm a huge nintendo nerd and yet FF7 is still my fav game of all time,that says a lot right there.

Jirachi4352d ago

Why People say this is the best game ever idk.
Honestly even my favorite ff game is not based on nostalgia(the first time i played it was on gba in 2006 AFTER i played ff7-12)
And as much as love ffvi,i would never say it's best game ever(Or worse yet claim that no game will ever top it) claiming any game is the best game is silly because your comparing rpgs to fpses platformers to fighting games.

You can't Fairly compare two unique genres it's literally like comparing apples to oranges. However comparing two games within the same genre is a much more fair comparsion.

You can claim x game is the best rpg or y game is the best fighter but to say game x or y is the best game ever is asinine.

floetry1014352d ago

That's rubbish. Of course you're entitled to have a single greatest game of all time. It's personal preference. To say it's asinine? Ridiculous. There are games that transcend their respective genre to be better than any other game AND continue to inspire developers that make entirely different titles. There are elements within a game that take the entire medium forward, whether it's because of art design, sound, story, mood etc. You might not agree, but FFVII was an important milestone, not just for RPG's, but a host of games to follow and emulate.

ChickeyCantor4352d ago

To me it was Zelda: Link to the past. And for those growing up with that game know exactly why.
So I disagree.

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Square should ask Sony for more money...

Outside_ofthe_Box15h ago

Square should ask Microsoft to buy them out...

FinalFantasyFanatic12h ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box,
So that Microsoft can close down the studio after doing nothing with them? Right...

gleepot19h ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

Profchaos11h ago

Yup videogame crash 2024 edition

_Decadent_Descent19m ago

Hope so. Industry needs a good crash to shake it up again.

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername1d 6h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake1d 5h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

TheEroica14h ago

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt for some gamers.... 🤣

Barlos1d 3h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername20h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic188123h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_23h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces22h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning7722h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

FinalFantasyFanatic13h ago

I can see them going for PS5/Switch/PC for the most part, it'll mostly likely be the Switch 2 by the time their next game enters development, which is probably a good thing since the Switch is struggling with 3rd party games. If they're hurting for money/sales, I don't see them bothering with Xbox, that's just wasted time/money for them.

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DarXyde23h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

FinalFantasyFanatic12h ago

I don't think the exclusivity hurts them as badly as they think, I think it's a range of factors, like the quality of the games, high sales expectations, ESG/DEI, censorship, development costs/time... I also suspect that Square-Enix is extremely inefficient with their resources, they struggled/avoided towns in the FF13 trilogy, and FF14 was mostly wilderness with little to do apart from derp about in the wild (they also avoid towns and making a lot of characters there too). But FF14 also went through development hell, I think Square-Enix just needs to overall how they do everything, because the way they manage that studio just isn't working.

Christopher22h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson19h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan18h ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

itsmebryan15h ago

Square finally realized what Sony figured out recently, their installed base is not enough. We are going to see a lot less exclusives from everyone moving forward.

MajorLazer9h ago

PS5 is nearly at 60 million only half-way through its life-cycle, but sure, the install base is not enough.

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CrashMania1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz1d 5h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff21831d ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman1d 4h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware7301d 3h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde23h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel198918h ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal1d 1h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware7301d 1h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_23h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk771d 4h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake23h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel198918h ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

FinalFantasyFanatic12h ago

@Michiel1989,
Akira Toriyama had an understudy though, he emulates his style, so maybe he'll do the art for Dragon Quest games, I would love to see Nobue Uematsu do music for the series though, that could be fun if they could convince him.

FinalFantasyFanatic12h ago

I'll be so p*ssed if that doesn't go ahead, also, where's DQ12 at? They've been silent on that for so long, and it was announced years ago.

@gold_Drake,
I'm pretty sure they can siphon some profit from A Realm Reborn to keep FF and Dragon Quest going too. I think the company would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't for that cash cow.

gold_drake8h ago

14 is definitely brings in the a consistant cashflow

Charal1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast1d 3h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware7301d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast1d 2h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast21h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto19h ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel198918h ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

Charal9h ago

Anast I wasn’t expecting more from you and I haven’t be disappointed.

Don’t believe any number if you want, but things cannot be more evident that most of games companies are pushing to get the most they can from PC market.

Hell, we have both MS and Sony that are releasing their biggest franchise on PC with no or less and less delay vs console release, that is never seen before in the industry.

What is surprising me is that PC is not cheap in term of hardware cost, a rig close to PS5/XBX perfs may be close to double the price I guess, and close to 4x for a good gaming PC.
Plus, PC gaming does not have physical release anymore.

So a lot of supposed advantages from console market are not there but PC market is successful anyway, it would be very interesting to understand it.
Maybe one big argument is that we are more likely to need a PC at home, were we can work with, browse, and game, than a dedicated gaming machine. That why handled console market have been crushed by smartphones, we could see a repeating pattern here.

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Babadook715h ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

FinalFantasyFanatic12h ago

PC also has a lot more competition, especially when people can easily buy and play older games from 20 or so years ago on it.

anast4h ago

You probably need to worry about yourself and your own expectations.

You still haven't even complete the simplest task in telling me the name of the website. Let that sink in. I asked for the name of the website so I can look at it and you couldn't even complete that task.

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Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Understands That A Tonberry Is The Scariest Thing In The World

The tiny green slasher villain returns in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, and is as frightening as ever.

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MeteorPanda8d ago

The way it was handled was so dumb. One shots in melee...your teammates are to ostupid to get away from its attack. So you most often end up alone in a certain fight.

Hofstaderman8d ago

Two words, one accessory....Safety Bit

MeteorPanda8d ago

Needing an accessory to keep a.i from dying and only one of them isnt great.