RUMOR: Gears of War 2 announced at GDC

Surfer Girl strikes again with yet another rumor. Here is a comment a user made on one of Surfer Girls blog posts.

"ok so theres this little thing called the GDC coming up. What can we expect from the Microsoft Camp?"

Surfer girl replys:

"Something called Gears of War 2, the pack of previously-announced 08 releases and a couple of surprises."

[power of Green]

Got to call spam on this. Man I wan't to report this. Has this person ever been right?(thats a real question)

EDIT: mikeslemonade, because you won't let it right?. Sence when has the 360 ever been on the "positive end of the news" ???. Its always been attacked !, it just keeps delivering software that tends to cause people to ignor the fud.

You guys always say 360 games won't push hardware all the time, you did it with Gears of War, Halo 3, Mass Effect and now Gow 2(all it has to do is complement the other Monsters sequels and scores of new IP's and huge Multiplatform games along side the price cut).

You know its comming?, no sh*t man! it sold 5 million copies, are suppose to be downplaying the series impact on the market?. lol

[ngg12345]

No joke, exactly correct on every piece of information. She has confirmed almost all of her rumors true.

[Omegasyde]

Ngg,

How do you know she/he didn't just read the neogaf post first and then post the info?

Think about it like this...
Q: Why haven't any psychics ever win the lottery?
A: No one ever gets rich off educated guesses.

Its like if surfer "gurl" said there was going to me a remix to virtual fighter 5 and that Halo 4 would come out sometime in 2009.

[SRuN4]

you just dont get lucky with the start and possible ending point to a game. let alone the design docs that clearly showed classes. the whole "resistance 2 starts in iceland" isn't some educated guess. if anything you'd picture the next game taking place on mainland europe.

[Rybnik]

I thought she was spam at first too, but I believe that she is likely legit..The resistance 2 story she had all the specific details before anyone had posted that the story would break in the the new Game Informer. Also from this link
http://www.gamesetwatch.com...

she posts several predictions that are not googleable:
mark Ecco/ Human Head partnership?? unnanounced as of yet..
BGAE:2 NO ONE thought it would be made...if this proves true I will be overjoyed!!

So, I'm gonna make a prediction about the 2 08' Unannounced MS exclusives BGAE:2 (or maybe Kameo 2 **less likely***)
Project Offset

Oh, and since we didn't see GeOW2 at CES I'm almost certain her GDC Gears prediction will be true.

After all the Sony news we have seen recently, MS will swing back--I think GDC will surprise some people. I'm looking forward to seeing Alan Wake too (perhaps finally playable??!).

[mikeslemonade]

Gears of War 2 won't bring 360 back to the positive end of the news. We know it's coming and it just caters to the xbox 360 crowd it doesn't expand the audience.

[sonarus]

i have to admit i was once excited for gears of war 2. gears of war 1 was the reason i bought a 360 after all but i have probably overplayed it or maybe i have been lookin at the ps3's side of the spectrum too much my interest has simply declined drastically. I am still looking for that definitive 360 exclusive or 2 that will make me want to keep my 360 instead of sell it for more ps3 games. A strong showing at GDC could change my opinion though. However i expect sony to show off resistance 2 as well and i expect to be blown away by that too. SHould be a fun GDC

[mikeslemonade]

What are you trying to prove power of green? The Halo 3 sales lead to less sales in 2007 than in 2006. And none of the games you listed push the 360 like Gears did. OH WAIT Halo 3 did, but there developers must suck because that game was 640p with bad graphics. The only game that came close to pushing 360 hardware like Gears is Bioshock. The 360 really had no 3rd generation games because it only has two generations which is Kameo and Gears of War. And there's noway Gears of War 2 will sell as much as Gears of War 1 did because everyone just bought that blindly and there's a lot of people that said they bought just because of hype and it isn't their type of game.

[drewdrakes]

mikeslemonade - Mass Effect doesnt count?

[captainjy]

Hey MikesLemonade, log on to the PSN with the other 10 PSN users in the world and drown in your tears of regret for buying that POS. Gears of War pushed hardware and so did Halo 3. Since when did the 360 fall into the negative world of news. The negative world for the 360 is in here because the 360 speaks for itself- 18 million units sold, baby. How many toasters did Sony sell again?

[toughNAME]

you need 3 years to make a good game

I don't want Epic pulling an Insomniac just for the $$$

[poos3]

yup agree insomniac is making rfom which will be full of bugs and flop the time spanof them making that game is a 1year hahahahareleasing it cause sony is forcing them to the game will be so incompete and remeber resistace is a scripted game which is yawn

[SRuN4]

gotta love fanboys, resistance 2 started after resistance 1 was on the shelves. nice try though.

[Iron Man 2]

3 years for what?for a game that barely supports 4v4 matches with unbelievable lag?no thanks,I prefer my online matches big(60 people big),and of course lag free

[Durffen]

I had no lag experience with the game at all, for the year i played it. And although i agree 4v4 is quite small, I'm sure they will develop GoW2 to have at the least 6v6, which i can deal with. Some games just aren't made for real big death matches.

[mikeslemonade]

No but Resistance online plays as smooth as it's offline. Every single shot counts. It's not like p2p servers where on your screen you are shooting the target but in reality you're not.

[Genuine]

More people in an online fps doesn't necessarily make a game awesome.

[SL1M DADDY]

Only people that say that are those playing games on Live... Sorry, but more is better especially when they give you the option of going smaller. It's better to have the option to go big or small than to only have a small game at your finger tips. 4v4 in Gears was just plain silly but 30v30 will be insanely fun. Even COD4 with 9v9 makes for a great time and to deny that only makes one look stupid.

[Kleptic]

Epic and Insomniac both have a lot of talented people...Insomniac has launched a competent game nearlye very year for the past decade...and they have more than one group that works, or starts working on different projects simulataneously...

Same with Epic...Ut3 was announced before Gears was even called Gears of War (it was some Unreal spin-off at that point...and was still an fps)...and when Gears development got pushed ahead, they didn't "stop" working on UT3...they just had a large chunk of the company on Gears (probably everyone for the last few weeks before it went Gold), then allocated a ton of people back on UT3...all the while having a smaller group beginning Gears 2...now UT3 is out, and depending on what is going on with the 360 version of Ut3...most of the company is probably hard at work with Gears 2...with a small group starting whatever that rumored PS3 exclusive is...

also though...announcing Gears 2 doesn't mean its coming this fall...but I disagree that a quality title always takes 3 years...if Gears uses UE3...a crap load of work is already complete...if they are using already existing engine tools...it cuts down big time on game turn around...exactly what happened with Resistance 1 to R&C...

either way...I am very excited to see what Gears 2 has...if it does drop this year...its hardly going to be the PS3 destroying the 360 like everyone has been saying...we will see...

[sheng long]

you're right toughNAME, the very same Epic that waited how long to release UTIII and look at what happened? A lot of people still weren't happy with the results, by your logic maybe they should've waited 6 years to put out twice the product.
Gear of War is my favorite game on 360, but for people to say there is no lag, then you're a fanboy. why do you think is so easy to tell who's hosting the game. I hate hosting games because people get mad at me and end up quitting my games. Gears is all about host advantage, and host advantage is nothing but lack of lag.

[The_Engineer]

it was only a matter of time before the xf@gs started attacking Insomniac as a "rush" developer. Truth is you f@ggots are jealous Sony has a dev like them who make all 360 exclusive devs look like 1st year out of school retards.

[Omegasyde]

Next thing she will say is that there will be a sequel to mortal kombat and virtual fighter 6....

[Durffen]

She said there was a stage editor, about 3 weeks before it was announced.

[Omegasyde]

There were talking about that in Neogaf forums and I think 1up boards as well before the announcement.

[power of Green]

Either one of my rabid "Enemies" dissagreed with me or I pissed off a loyal GEars fan lol. My bad.

[SRuN4]

even a blind man could see this coming..

[neeharb]

I hope they confirm this ...Gears2...Then Alan wake...Project offset(I have no idea if its coming this year if at all it is coming)...Fable 2...
splintercell conviction...and i hope they have some big exclusives....
i personally am waiting for silent hill and resident evil...loved the Ps2 and pc versions...Silent hill 4 the room was amazing(Only if you had the patience to complete it...i didnt hehhe..but still loved it)...

[Durffen]

There is more to the story posted from the site if no one is clicking it.

[name]

Everyone pretty much expected gears of war 2.

[power of Green]

If you're a Fragging fan Huxley is by far the most advanced Multi player shooter on a console (100 vs 100 and all sorts of choices, massive battlfields with huge teams... some of which will be in huge attack vehicles or smaller transport vehicles along side ground troops.

Also theres animals that are non playable you have to worry about)not to mention the game is going to have PC vs Console capabilites and the sigle player is part of the multi player world in many ways http://www.huxleygame.com/h...
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Ninja Gaiden 2 and Too human should also be good but yeah those games you listed are high production value block busters.

Watched Xplay and Left 4 Dead's AI seems off the hook, that jumped out at me and has me drooling.

[mighty_douche]

LOL @ Huxley!!

[wageslave]

Its Hillarious that the PS3 fanboys are all wetting their pants about resistence 2's rumour about 40 vs. 40 Multiplayer.

When:

A) Huxley will probably ship before -- Beta starts in June -- and as you say, the game will have 60 vs. 60. It will be a TOTALLY new IP, new engine, new game. Not a rescripted & patched game (what Resistence 2 *must* be if it ships so soon after R1)

and

B) I dont recall the title at the moment, but there was a Xbox Original game that had 40 person Multiplayer....

so.... why all the bragging? Its a little silly...

Edit:

"Huxley is using UE3...anyone..XBL...accomplish ment...obviously they will be using...but we will see..."

What do you know about coding mutli-player videogames? Are you making suggestions about their hardware architecture now? You *assume* you know *anything* about WTF your talking about. *I* know enough about IT to know that I *dont* know enough to being to tell anyone how to write the backend of a state-of-the-art multi-player videogame.

Why dont you stop pretending you know what-the-fcuk-your talking about.

Oh, and i play plenty of games on Xbox LIVE - and it has been without so much as a hitch the entire time. Totally satisfied.

"Resistance 2 is hardly a "patched" resistance 1..."

My point is only that R2 will be re-using previous assets. A new game (which neither GeoW nor R2 would be (GeoW using the latest UE and R2 using Insomniac's home-made engine) takes more than 24 months to produce.

"furthermore...Resistanc e 2 has been confirmed...Huxley full of rumors, with very little confirmed anything...not resistance 2... "

What are you talking about? There are plenty of confirmed details for both games. How is this even relevant?

[Kleptic]

wageslave...thank you for being extremely ignorant...

Huxley is using UE3...and anyone playing a UE3 game through XBL can attest that it will be quite an accomplishment to get hundreds of players at once...

obviously they will be using a very robust dedicated bank of servers...but we will see...

and Resistance 2 is hardly a "patched" resistance 1...its going to be the third generation of an engine that powered one of the best looking games of this generation...and early scans of the game show an already far more advanced lighting system than that of anything UE3 has to offer...

furthermore...Resistance 2 has been confirmed by the head of Insomniac to have 60 players online...and 8 player co-op...its Huxley that is full of rumors, with very little confirmed anything...not resistance 2...

...Huxley has so many things to be confirmed, the whole game is almost speculation entirely...the beta you speak of is still rumored to be Korean only...and Webzen has admitted that the ISP networks of Korea are vastly superior to the rest of the world, making the rest of the planet quite a challenge...

if Huxley even gets 40 on 40 multiplayer using UE3 out of standard US DSL and cable ISPs...I will be extremely impressed...

[m9105826]

@ wageslave, go check out the specs for the UE3 engine, and you will clearly see the faults of it's online architecture system, as well as glaring problems with it's lighting and rendering engine. And before you say I have no right to be saying anything, I'm a game design student and have worked directly hands-on with UE3, and the most a team of us could pump out over a p2p with decent looking graphics (40k-70k poly models w/ 1024x1024 spec, norm, texture, and disp maps, and a level with roughly 5 Mil Ngons with maps ranging from 128x128 to 2048x2048 with 2-3 area lights and dozens of spot and lamp lights) was 8 v 8 multiplayer, and it took us nearly a year to pull that off and was still laggy as sh!t. Obviously the developers at Epic have more skill with the engine than we do, but I'd be hard pressed to believe that any amount of skill could pull off 60 v 60 with smooth framerates without drastically sacrificing either shaders, level design, character models, etc. The engine just wasn't built for it.

@Kleptic(below)

Thank you for looking through the goggles of common sense.

And whoever disagreed with me, would you like to back up YOUR assertion as I did mine?

[Kleptic]

@above...

Huxley is being spearheaded in South Korea...which is by far the most broadband'd infrastructure in the world...not only that, the entire network is handled by only a few ISPs...and as far as I have seen, that is the only place beta testing will happen...

couple that...with the fact that the game will require extremely expensive high speed dedicated servers...and it becomes a very big deal...

there is a reason other games don't boast such high numbers in terms of online players at once...MMOs are handled entirely differently in the first place...and with news of only the 360 version get a sort of single player campaign, and the light starts to shine a bit brighter on what exactly this thing will be...

to put it blunty...XBL, the way it is now...has absolutely no chance of supporting numbers this high in any territory other than Korea...p2p doesn't have a prayer for it...and the fact that its using UE3, like you stated, makes it even less likely for this game to pull off what all these rumors are...

there is a reason, even with dedicated servers, that things start to cap out at 60 players...even on a PC...talking strictly true multiplayer (MMO games support more...but its an entirely different situation on who you are playing exactly...you don't have a raid in WoW with 100 players fighting 100 players in a single battle, in which you can interact with each and every one of them)...its becoming very obvious that the rumors around Huxley are becoming much more centered aroun hundreds of players will be fighting in one city, but there will be more individualized skirmishes making up that whole battle...in which you are up against 30 other players or whatever...you may be able to leave that area, and engage others...but it won't allow something like 197 person free for alls were you can sit on a tower and watch them all skurrying around...the logistics behind that are a complete pipe dream with the current bandwidth of most domestic ISPs...

[TheMART]

It'll come this Christmas. Two years to make a great sequel is more then enough. Gears 1 took 3 years or so, but the sequel builds on the engine they knew, got to know even better with UT3 and that way they don't need 3 years, but can do the job in 2 years for sure.

Be sure about it: Gears of War 2 at Christmas '08

[mighty_douche]

Well done Surfer Girl....

i dont think any of us would of expected them to show GOW2, im blown away....

feel the sarcasm.

[destroyah]

i'll just stick to UT3 with mod support (something the 360 version lacks) and Resistance 2 with 60 players online and 8 player co-op, something Gears 2 won't have. if Gears of War 1 was that laggy and buggy, i don't even wanna imagine Gears 2 with 60 players LOL!

Gears of War was a repetitive glitch fest and i'm not looking forward to Gears 2. UT3 kills Gears. 80+ maps, full mod support, keyboard and mouse. yeah.

[Genuine]

You say "another repetitive shooter" then talk about your love for UT3. You sony extremists are hilarious. Rabid sony fanboys are the joke of the gaming industry. Read a multi-plat forum or listen to a mainstream podcast and you'll see what normal people think of you idiots. Why? Because of posts like yours, and websites like these:
http://sonyprotectiongroup....
Did you people ever stop to think that you can be a fan without being part of some militant fanboy organization? Hey, I'm a 360 fan and I had no qualms with sony whatsoever, until I started hearing Xbox 1.5 and Xbot coming from weirdos like you people. And that started in 2005.

And to all of you Sony Protection Group members who contribute here at N4G. I know you folks like to think that no one has noticed what your little extremist organization has been doing on this site. I'll put it this way, your not as stealthy as you think you are. I have a question though, is this link the beginning of your groups decision to hijack this website?
http://sonyprotectiongroup....

Now sign in to you multiple accounts and message your SPG cronies then shower me with disagrees and hate mail. Then go f*** yourself.

edit- to all of you people who are normal sony fans, I wasn't refering to you in this post.

[tomfoolery]

You frickin nailed that one buddy.
Nice find on the sleazy SDF Corp.
Caught red handed.........you just showed a glimpse of what these pathetic Sonypole suckers do.
That's a piece of the smoking gun on their little covert operation here on N4G.
That is a dirty dirty act of desperation for a failing game console(ps3),and I can't wait for karma to kick these Sony sh1ts right in nuts when all is said and done this gen............when they've placed dead last.
I have the main Sonyfvckers on ignore,and when the time comes...........the little bubble yanking b1tches are going to get
PMs from me rubbing it in so effin hardcore,they'll run off to their mommies crying that their wittle Blustation brand just got it's ass whipped by the 360..............it's coming....just wait,
you droids are the masters of waiting LOL.
tom

[Kleptic]

Genuine...the point you try to make is valid, yet you fail miserably in that you act like only Sony has fanboys like that...

so Zhuk, TheMart, IceWake, InYourMom are "ok" fanboy wise?...and they are not the joke of the industry?...they come up with the absolute dumbest comments of all time on a regular basis...yet you say "normal" people make fun of Sony fanboys...y

sonyprotectiongroup is retarded...yet the way your post is put together...you act like a crap site like xboxkings is great...

all fanboys suck...and all systems have fanboys...you appear just as fanboyish when you act like 'only the othersides fanboys suck'

[wageslave]

2 Resistance: Fall of Man 2.25m SHOOTER!
4 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 1.61m SHOOTER!
8 Uncharted: Drakes Fortune 0.82m SHOOTER!
11 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction 0.66m SHOOTER!

Guess what, Shooters sell well on all platforms.

[m9105826]

When people say "shooter" they are referring to games that only revolve around shooting. Case-in-point, Resistance is a shooter. All you do is run and shoot things. Uncharted is in the Platformer/Adventure genre, as you have gun fights broken up by puzzle solving and platforming elements. Racthet & Clank is in the same barrel, with a lot more platforming. Calling either one of them a shooter is pretty blind. Also, I think we can ALL agree that this gen has been a bit of a shooter overload as of yet. Where are the good RPGs?

[InYourMom]

Are Sony people even commenting on here. Isn't it funny how yet another positive 360 post has turn into 360 people on defense and PS3 on offensive totally derailing the topic at hand.

Destroyah - UT3 and Gears are 2 different types of gameplay. UT3, fast, larger maps and is more run and gun. Gears is slower, close combat, cover or get your ass blown away type of game. The game simply doesn't work with larger parties. Maybe Gears 2 will be different. And your reptitive shooter for 360 comment is crap when the exact same thing can be said about Resistance and that doesn't even come close to Gears visually. Gears > RFOM anyday! And you talk about UT3 will all this support, it hasn't even come out on the 360 and I do think MS and Epic are working out the MOD details, but keyboard and mouse probably won't happen unless you buy the 3rd party adapter that allows for both. I bet it will sell better on the 360 than PS3 as well.

Kleptic: Of course you are going to rattle my name off and all the others who counter the army of extreme Sony douchebags on this site. I'm not saying all Sony fans are bad, but we've got more than we need here. Even to the point of making XBOX3FIXME and XBOXSUCKS accounts and stupid sh!t like that. Of course you won't call any of those people out, even though you claim to hate fanboys on both sides.

[Kleptic]

at InYourMom...

ok...Schmee, Bill Gates, Nasism,...Sony has its share of retards as well...i was only countering how one sided Genuine's argument was...

in either case...I am slightly unaware of why I posted your name...I have seen your posts like twice...there are a hungred 360 guys that I should have put up before you, so I apologize for that...

but you do see also how there are accounts as of PS3 sucks...Poos3...DelayStation.. .etc...my point was that both sides have them...and it doesn't matter...Genuine took care of pointing out how retarded Sony fanboys were...but sort of forgot about his own camp...I was simply reminding him though...

bubble for your reply...at least you took the time to call me out on mentioning your name...

and by the way...I am a Sony fan...that happens to love Gears of War...thats the only reason I came in here...the whole point of the comment section is to comment...and argue...how much fun would this site be if Sony fans only stayed in Sony news, and vice versa...

the comment section would consist of "yeah Gears 2...awesome, can't wait"...and the next guy "yeah this is great...loved the first one"...they have sites for where everyone gets along...eHarmony and Match.com just to name a few...

[Genuine]

Sony fanboys have made a name for themselves for being ignorant fools. Ever notice how every editor at 1up thinks Shane Bettenhausen is an embaressing sony fanboy moron. Which ironically happens to be what inspired SPG.

Being a fan of something and joining an extremist organization whose primary goal is to slander and destroy are two very different things.

[name]

Wait, I just remembered, isn't Epic working on unreal tournament 3 for the 360?

[XBREAK3FIXME]

this just means they're rushing both games LOL!

UT3 was not only rushed for 360, but there's no mod support which makes it a pointless port and just another shooter. are they seriously going to rush Gears 2 so that it could end up being the complete and utter glitch fest that was Gears 1? Lags of War 2.

[TheMART]

And you aren't that bright to think...

That they have seperate teams working on more games at the same time???

Do you think they made UT3 for the PC/PS3 in one year, because they released Gears 1 at Christmas 2006?

[wageslave]

You know what is wrong with this fcuking website?

That this:
"That they have seperate teams working on more games at the same time??? Do you think they made UT3 for the PC/PS3 in one year, because they released Gears 1 at Christmas 2006?"

Comment -- which is irrefutably ACCURATE -- gets 6 disagrees and 2 agrees.

N4G *IS* absolutely run-over by bored PS3-idiots, and have reduced this site to mindlessness.

[m9105826]

What a dumb argument. That's like saying Insomniac's games are rushed because they worked on Resistance and R&C at the same time, and then most likely R&C and R:2.

[BLUR111]

if they do come with gears this soon this year i think it will be sh-t too soon. it be cool but i doubt it will be out if so maybe just right at christmas

[Durffen]

I understand everyone would rather a game with a bunch of players online. But c'mon. You guys are mentioning First Person Shooter huge team frag fest's. Gears of War is a Tactical Third Person Shooter game. I don't think the game will ever have more then 14 players online because thats how the game is supposed to be. Gears of War is different, and it's always gonna be small and tactical, cause thats how it is supposed to be.

[Strife Lives]

I think surfer girl could be a gay guy. Anyways. Ohhhh.rumor time people. Okay, I got one I got one. pick me pick me pick me. Aaah, you guys have all the fun. gears of war 3 on the next xbox. Xbox 3/xbox 720. Btw,who approves these stories.it such obvious stuff. Surfer gurl :at GDC hideo kojima will be talking about a mysterious unamed character with a bandana.heres a clue. He is the hero of shadow moses. Oh.and his ex girlfriends name is Meryl

[name]

I don't see how the mart got disagrees. What he said made alot of sense. I think he's said so much retarded sh1t people just disagree with him from pure reflex.

[TheMART]

Wrong. It's because there are so much brainless PS3 fangirls that have been hurt by the truth and my comments that they hit disagree without reading.

Many things I've said and predicted in 2007 for the PS3 have become reality.

At the beginning Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank and so on would all become AAA over 90% average rated games. I looked at them, played them in Leipzig at the LGC in 2007 and said that only Uncharted potentially would get that AAA over 90% average score.

On Gamerankings it's now on 90%. The other games? Scored not that high or even terrible like Lair.

PS3 fans didn't want to hear the truth. And they're so frustrated over it, talking about the future, hoping their investment would pay off, that's why they're disagreeing now with anything. Frustration.

The comment is legit. Two years for a sequel were the first part took three years is reality. They're afraid for Gears 2 this Christmas I guess to chainsaw KZ2 in two parts!

[BLUR111]

yeah i agree with you Gwen

[Neurotoxin]

LOL @ Mart.

Your a funny guy.

[angel604]

since your so in love with gamrankings and metacritic and over 90% trash, lets just say that gears of war 2 got like an 82% and didnt really sell that well, would you still go around saying its AAA blah blah blah, then you would have to readjust what you consider what AAA is, one of the most over used phrases this generation

[m9105826]

If we can agree that you make some intelligent comments, you have to concede that gamerankings and Metacritic aren't the be-all end-all of what makes a game good. Also, KZ2 and Gears are two completely different types of games, and trying to compare them is like giving flamethrowers to fanboys. You know better than that. Both with have their place in the gaming spectrum.

[Neurotoxin]

Epic to announce Gears 1+2 PS3 to be released along side the 360 sequel/Prequel.

/End Sarcasm

Sorry i couldn't resist.

[Ko_Uraki]

And GOW2 will sell millions

[mighty_douche]

Flop?!?

Maybe you should wait till its actually been released outside of the US (where the PS3 has its lowest instal base) before you proclaim it as a flop.

[trunker]

it's been written many times that UT's been struggling on PC and if you watch most of marc rein's interviews he always seems desperate to flog it on the ps3 and hopefully the 360 - I dont think it will do anything near uncharted in sales and 360 will get GeOW2 soon so it'll have a really limited lifespan + COD4 is still the console FPS of choice

so logically and if you are being objective epic know that their next big payday is the next GeOW for the 360 (simply by installed base, attach rate and GeOW1 - it's the simple truth) everything inbetween is just to pay off CliffyB's bar tab

[Bombomb]

but UT3 is struggling on PC with sales and we all know because of Piracy, what you think the PS3 a sony console which was never known for FPS is gonna come and save the day for EPIC?>

Get your head out your @ss will ya..

UT3 have sold, what, Less then 150K in the US and you think the rest of the world is gonna scoop it up? If a popular game comes out in a place where the Genre is very popular and stuggles, what makes you think JAPAN is gonna save the day? OR just Euro?

UT3 will sell better on the Xbox360 when it is out and Gears 2 will murder Resistance 2 in sales. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Charlie2688]

Since its only GDC if they in fact announce something GEOW2 related it will be at most a formal "GEOW2 exists" and a teaser trailer since I can bet you my bionic Implants (LOL) MS wont spoil their own thunder for E3 or X08

Ko_Uraki: and I got a disagree because...?

[Ko_Uraki]

Expecially because we know that we'll see the first pic/scans very soon.

[Ko_Uraki]

but IMO it's clear that UTIII it's another PS3 disappointment.

[mighty_douche]

perhaps, Epic/Sony (the people that sales acyually effect) but not you and me, you know, GAMERS.

You probably havent even played it, but you judge its quality from sales figures? i guess its right your a M$ fan as that seems to be their attitude.

EIDT @ edonus, WOW!! thats it, im not actually buying games i want, im buying them because Sony told me to.... pfft....

[Genki]

Wouldn't be because it's the de facto flagship title for the 360 now that the Halo trilogy has hit the end of it's run.

Would be because I'm not sure there's much more in the UE3 that developers can gain insight from.

[mighty_douche]

about the UE3, Epic even stated the PC version of Gears has a slightly more advanced build of the engine that wasnt possible on the 360, so to me, id be surprised if the console version of Gears2 will look any better than Gears on PC.

Oh knows, maybe they even have a new engine in the works! But even if they do i doubt its anywhere near ready for use.

[Genki]

that UE4 is already in the works, but I think it's just in planning stages at the moment.

To be honest though, I'm not exactly looking forward to it. UE3 looked great before the PS3 came out when all we had to compare it to was...you know...PS2 and XBox games. Now though, having seen the proprietary engines made by Insomniac, Polyphony, Bizarre Creations, Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, Square, Namco, Bungie, Ensemble, and others, the inadequacies apparent in the engine leave quite a bit to be desired.

I wish Crytek would get their act together and code Cryengine to run optimally on more machines...because I'm really starting to think that it's not the hardware that's at fault here.

It's like American muscle cars. All the power you could want with an inefficient build, tons of noise, and an essentially disposable fuel tank.

The same reasons why Crytek's engine doesn't sell are the same reasons why these noisy behemoths pretty much died...they're impractical.

[power of Green]

Theres two Halo games in development. Halo's like FF! now Devs are going to tap the Halo universe untill games stop selling), MSFT is trying to establish itself thats it.

Genki Maybe you should teach the devs how to either get more out of UE3 or help them build a better engine?. lol Its nice to know we have devs as members on this site that know the tech side of things up close and personal.

Anyways you better get started helping the devs so they can improve Uncharted's sequel.

[Genki]

Vehemently and fervently defending your precious baby at every turn, never fails. You take things way too seriously for your own good. I wonder if you realize that a pretty substantial amount of the trolls and fanboys on this site aren't being serious(be honest, I didn't realize it until recently)...because you seem to act so extreme because you feel like you've got everyone on your side.

You're either gonna have a nervous breakdown or continue spiraling further down into the realms of dementia once you realize that you're among the last vestiges of sad little people that take this console crap to heart.

Anyway, your logic is flawed(surprise, surprise), not to mention hypocritical, as you never seem to have a shortage of venomous quips to spit in certain other directions, but we'll leave that part alone. I'm gonna touch on the flawed logic.

If I have eyes to see and fingers with which to push buttons, then you had better believe that I can criticize, compare, and contrast what I experience. Beyond that...since when did you have to be directly associated with something to criticize it? Do you think Pat Riley could play as well as Dwyane Wade or dominate like Shaq when the Heat won the NBA Championship? Probably not...but you had better believe he told them how to improve their game.

How about Belichick? The mastermind behind the undefeated Patriots? Think he can burn a DB like Randy Moss or air it out like Brady? Doubtful...but you had better believe that they listen when he gives his input.

Your horrendous logic essentially suggests that FANS and CONSUMERS should have no input on the PRODUCTS THE USE...you'd make it far in the corporate world, I'll tell you that now.

FYI, I DO think that Naughty Dog has a lot of work to do on their Uncharted engine. The game has some of the most blatant and glaring clipping issues I've seen since I bought my PS3, not to mention the animation hitches that pop up from time to time.

That was a valiant little attempt at being subtle and putting me in the same fanboy camp as you, but you fail.

Try to actually think about what it is you're trying to say before you set your fingers on full auto.

[Kleptic]

Genki...

bubbles sir...a breathe of fresh air finally, which have been fewer and fewer on here...

although...to keep the fanboy'ness alive...I absolutely despise the patriots...haha...as a Penn State grad...I associate the Patriots as the University of Michigan of the NFL...as far as I am concerned, the US can give Michigan to Canada...and guess where dear ol' Brady went to school...

[Genuine]

Both of you pompous pricks are sony fanboys trolling a 360 story, so don't act like you two are supposed to here and POG is not.

Both of you can say goodbye to a bubble.

http://n4g.com/up/8501/comm...

http://n4g.com/up/2514/comm...
http://n4g.com/up/2514/subm...

edit- @pompous prick #1

Lol, my post didn't have to be eloquent. It was direct and a undeniable fact. Go spew your fanboy tripe in your consoles provided section.

[Genki]

With a comment like this...

"Both of you pompous pricks are sony fanboys trolling a 360 story, so don't act like you two are supposed to here and POG is not."

That's so well structured, so well thought out...and most of all so RELEVANT to what ANYONE was saying...you deserve a hero cookie, Genuine.

Truth hurts, doesn't it? Here's a lesson for you, since I just taught PoG one in logic: Argumentum ad hominem. It's when dumba**es like yourself have no argument, so attacking someone IS your argument. You know what that is? Juvenile...illogical, irrelevant, I could give it to you alphabetically if you'd like, but I doubt you'd be able to process it, what with your intellect being stifled by your overwhelming animosity and extremism.

Open your eyes, fool, and try to actually rebut one of my points next time instead of copping out with a meaningless insult. Do you hide your insecurities like that in life also, or only in regards to this dumb "console war" that you zealots love perpetuating? It's not a religion, it's games, wake the hell up.

Pompous prick...lol, so what am I next, a poo-poo head? This isn't a playground, junior, take your name-calling elsewhere.

EDIT@ Genuine

Fact, eh? In your warped mind, maybe. Those of us with sense know that facts are things that can be proven, not opinions of other people's....opinions. Congrats on having to dig up comments and submissions by the way, shows how confident you were in your mindless accusations.

Anyway, once again, grow up. You live in a world where somehow the only two people are you, the gamers, and me, the pompous Sony fanboys. Get back to me if you can ever wrap your head around exactly what's wrong with that.

Top it all off with how you insist upon being divided into groups regulated by pointless rules like "stay on your side of the street!" as if this is some kind of turf war. I think you've watched The Outsiders and Deuce's Wild a tad too many times.

For the last time...grow up, your little friend managed to turn comments that were in no way provocative into a flame war because he can't handle hearing an opinion. All you've done is follow in his footsteps with your petty name calling, and for the same reasons, no less. You bleed insecurity, and it's sad.

[Durffen]

Take this discussion to the actual post itself?

[CrazzyMan]

after KZ2 and Resistance 2 available on the market it won`t be easy people to pursut to buy geow.
Though there 4 mln. people who bought geow, but how many of them really liked the game and going to spend 60$ for another 5-6 hour campaign?
Time wil show. =)
anyway, it will be interesting to compare, what geow has to show.

[chanto23]

i will with my eyes closed

[TheMART]

Like Heavenly Sword was 5 hours of gameplay?

The mighty power of BluRay!

[wageslave]

#1) Killzone 1 was mediocre at best, your hopes for KZ2 is irrational.
#2) Gears of War was vastly longer than you wish it was.
#3) Gears of War 2 will outsell *every* PS3 game sold to the date of its release. Mark my words. Write it down. GeoW2 may not sell as well as Halo 3, but its going to be very very big.

Now, re-read #3 and write it down son.

[predator]

the daddy returns, remember how much hype, sales this caused. triple that for gears 2....

[chanto23]

things that MUST be improved:
- the damn collision detection(you shoot point blank and still miss) and stupid host advantage

-take some functions off the "A" button (i get stuck with everything :(

-rework the active reload concept so people dont just abuse it

-create some way to counter the frag tag (like being able to take it off with a quick random button combination sort off)

-dont make the chainsaw like a vacuum cleaner that sucks you in

-more guns and maps

-matchmaking

-fix as most glitches as possible

-(BOTS) in case some asshole quits in the middle of the match

[LocustGR]

GOW 2 in 2008? I doubt...
Much more likely perfect dark 2, but Zero wasn't exactly an AAA game..

Surprise me, Microsoft.

[felidae]

Gears is a good game but not the best.

There are other games that i'm much more interested in!

but, good news for xbotz!

[supermandead666]

Another shooter....

[Lex Luthor]

Just like Resistance, Haze, UT3 and Haze.

*sigh*

[AceLuby]

Don't forget about Haze. Haze Haze Haze

[Niclas]

Plx stop your ignorant commments sony faboys.. Gears is the best 3.person shooter ever made .. I'll be happy if Gears2 come this year, but i would be more trilled if they aimed for an 09 release.. (Yea you wait longer, but the game obviously gets killer! :D)

R:FOM is probably one of the most over-rated games ever .. (Yes i have it, and a PS3 for the record) it blows.. i can think of sooooo many Fps games that beat the sh*t out of it.. : Halo 3, Bioshock, COD4, Orange Box hell even Metroid prime 3 has better fps gameplay.. The wpn's are boring tbh, the story was such a cliche! "The hole world is getting owned by b*tching a faq virus that turns ppl 2 ugly alien things, BUT THERES STILL ONE AMERICAN DUDE LEFT!!! WHO OWNS THEM ALL!!!!! omfg plx.. theres not even a twist worth mentioning.. and i dont know what the f*ck it is, theres something with the aiming in that game.. you know in COD4 its like floathing and its really easy and feels natural too aim. But in R:FOM its extremely "bumpy" .. dont know how to explain it.. And the AI of the enemies is NOTHING to be proud of.. the enemyes arent very impressing either, "Lost PLanet" thats a game, games like R:FOM and Halo could learn some from.. look at the bosses and Monsters in that game, omfg they r f*cking extreme/jawdrooping

no online splitscreen, anoying maps and NO VEHICLES combined with the anoying aiming = BAAAAD ONLINE and f*ck 32p.. it makes it even worse.. cuz if your a really god player, and your team if n00b, you'll still loose .. = SUX while with a 16-20 p MP you alone can change the score and maybe cause the overall win :D

Anyway, the only reason R:FOM sold so many copies was cuz, with Motorstorm, it was the ONLY interesting title the PS3 had to offer at launch. Think about if it launched 2day.. wtf 300000 copies ww, who the f*ck want R:FOM over COD4 or Orange box other than retards xD

Not jugding R:FOM2 though it ofc has the potential to be kick-ass .. The 60 player MP dosnt apeal the least 2 me .. but theres probably someone who thinks its cool. But personally i think theres ALOT of work to do, before it comes even close to being a real owning FPS.. and it dosnt look like Insomniac is gonna take its time with an 08 release tbh

[GodGinrai]

True.i bought my 360 in sept 06.since then ive played the best fps on console thanks to that machine.Motor storm is still a decent game and unchartered on my shopping list this month.resistance 1 wouldnt show a 360 gamer anything they havent seen or done in a game they already own bar the 40player ...but as a game the combat is not as satisfying and skill sriven as halo3/cod4/R6:V.UT3 is the best fps on ps3 IMO,but my clan arent exactly ps3 enthusiast`s so ill be waiting for the 360 version...never bought my ps3 for FPS anyway..i bought it for mgs4 /gt5 /tekken6..the stuff i cant get on my 360.and in light of the whole blu ray victory i got my movie player of choice.i would recommend that to any 360 owner....have the ps3 as your second console for its exlusives,while the 360 is the machine you buy multiplat/fps/x360 exlusives on.Its only £280 for a 40gb(which i bought... wont miss bc as i still have a ps2 tucked away in my box room.but ill never use the ps2 again anyway...my 360 saw to that back in 06.)ps3 owners should do the same .ps3 as main console,get yourselfs x360`s for mass effect ,gears,forza2(any tru driving fan will own GT and Forza),halo3 (you will actually like it if you actually play it with some friends...trust me).Dont let the fanboy in ya`ll stop you from having ALL the good games on ALL the formats.you cant lose out that way.

[Xeikon]

Gears of War destroyed Resistance last time with better graphics, better online, better story, better maps, better AI, better controls, better weapons. The list just goes on and on.

Gears of War 2 will do the same to Resistance 2.

[angel604]

gears had a story?..thats a new one to me, i dont hink u can reply on epic for a story, resistance had a better one...graphics gears had much better compared to a launch title.. multiplayer is pretty much a wash if you liked the 4v4 action or the big team battle, and it sold so well (gears) cause 360 fans were craving for that one game to hold them off for halo

[Goldsack]

geow is not the best third person shooter, uncharted offers MANY more.and u talk about dump ai in resistance but praises geow in the same sentence..something is wrong with u.

@mighty
gears is better in online..what a joke!! only can handle 8 players and u can shoot around the corner!!! what a fuc! have this to do with a good online.
better maps..oh jeah..which i can run up in 5 sec!!

[Genuine]

Why? Because you only have a ps3, and you have to protect your $600 decision to buy it.

Gears of War 9.4
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Uncharted 8.8
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

It seems the professionals disagree with you.

[Niclas]

You obviously havent played GeOW for a long time have u now? the AI is slighlty better than R:FOM's, At least the Locust can take f*cking cover (Which is pretty embarrasing when R:FOM came out so much later)

But agree that it was a bit fast saying its the best 3.person shooter of all time ;P .. think Uncharted, Lost planet and Resident Evil 4 had as good single player campaigns.. maybe better;P but GeOW's MP is still awsome, ALOT better than R:FOM's tbh. Well 8p makes it very tactical and individual. Instead of R:FOM's lame Charge and spray gameplay.. and do you think a 8p MP would be great with giant maps omfg

[Lex Luthor]

I honestly don't see the hype with RFOM, such a dull game. Graphically, artistically(Crap generic Baddies) and gameplay wise.

GeOW beats it in every way. Far more entertaining game.

[Lex Luthor]

Also to sony fanboys hyping up 60 player online, it depends on the gameplay style. You wouldn't expect 60 player online for rainbow 6 now would you?

Gears and R6 are tactical 1st/3rd person shooters, not frag fests.

[ElfShotTheFood]

"mark Ecco/ Human Head partnership?? unnanounced as of yet.."

Actually it was news nearly a year ago:

http://www.gameguru.in/gene...

[Wurider]

I have read where they are saying that Gears will suck because they have only had two years roughly to complete it but they praise RFOM 2 even though it was released two year ago along with GOW. I had RFOM for the Ps3 while I wouldn't say that the game sucked it was pretty average and the weapons were on the boring time (most of them) and remember there were no other games to really buy for the Ps3 when it was released. The game was average nothing more nothing less. They should have included a headset with it because no one other than myself had a damn mic and being a a team and not being able to talk to your teammates sucks.

[titntin]

...and spot another troll convention! :)

Most of the posts in here don't even make sense! What IS the matter with you people?

Anyone complaining that GOW was cr*p plainly hasn't played it. I didn't think it was the holy grail that some claim it is, and I'd prefer more online players, but it was stunning title that sold a lot of hardware.
Obviously evryone on 360 wants the sequal - the current release list lacks clout but this title will be huge.

Anyone suggesting that they've not had enouigh time to develop it is plainly ignorrent. The Game is based on the fully developed and realised Unreal Engine - thye have no need to spend any time developing tools or squeezing performance from that engine as their is a dedicated comercial team already doing that. The teasm resources can simply concentrate on making the art resources balencing and designing levels and adding the spit and polish. Its bound to be a good game when it comes out - UT3 on PS3 is already a technical notch above the original GOW, and the engine will have been further refined by the time we see GOW2.

Same goes for the lame xbots trashing resistance - to claim Halo 3 is better than that title is a joke. GOW was good, but Halo3? No way...

All you trools on both sides need to learn to enjoy games rather than blowing corporate c*ck. Maybe we'd actually get some comments and discussion going thats actually interesting..

[AceLuby]

For a well thought out statement. I agree w/ EVERYTHING you stated. I own both systems and both Resistance and Gears are good fun games.

Why Resistance is even brought up in this thread is beyond me.

Anyway, bubbles for you sir.

[BestGamerAlive]

Resistance 2 will blow gears 2 out the water just like uncharted blows away gears 1 just ask xbox is the best he knows but he will deny cause he's a xbox boylover like the rest of u clowns 360 is dead R.I.P

[Goldsack]

i never compare a 1 person to 3 person shooter - the visualls are to different.
no doubt..gears has very good graphics but struggle with other things. the ai is not the best, when i shot a locust 3-4times and he dont look around..this is not really a good.
also the MP..is good but not perfekt when i can shoot with the sniper around "corners"..that isnt a joke!!
sure some of yours have seen this too!!!

@genuie
your a fool. a real gamer give a fuc! about gamerankinks.
example..the darkness is defintly a 9..superb singlemod, good graphics ,nice story and what got it..i dont know..but i know Rainbow gets higher scores cause u fight under the american flag.

@lex
honestly i see a good game in gears but also the big moneypocket from ms to celebrate their game..so i give a sh!t about sales or rankings.cause these things are overrated!!

[FirstknighT]

If Gears of War 2 comes out in 2008 for the 360 than the Microsoft officially has a better year in the gaming department.

[TheMART]

I'll make it easy to understand for you guys:

Killzone 1 got reviewed average between a 6 and 7 out of 10
Gears of War got reviewed average on about 94%

Guerilla has never made one great game for a console. Even KZ on the handheld PSP was only an 8. I played the game and it's not that great. Guerilla has never made AAA

Epic on the other hand... You get my point!

Gears 2 will be damn great

@ Bootsielon (below)

Thanks for proving my point. Capcom has made great games before DMC2.

Guerilla hasn't. End of story. I own a ceramic white PSP Japanese import. As far as I'm concerned that's the only good thing that Sony sells now, having homebrew running on it. I played Killzone on the PSP that got an average of an 8 or so, but its just an ok game not really great.

Capcom made great games. Epic made great games. Epic made the Unreal 3 engine, they made Gears, they made UT3 both damn fine games. So believe me, Gears of War 2 will be da bomb. Nothing can be compared to it. God of War 3 may be the only game to do the trick but won't arrive before 2009 for sure

[bootsielon]

Devil May Cry 2 was a critical flop. You fail.

[ParaDise_LosT]

I belive he was talking about Developer team Capcom has made MANY amazing games..
and Epic...Well, You have UT3 don't you?

GG is pretty good, I enjoyed KZ:Liberation on my psp....
but thats where it ends....They don't have the same credentials as
say Insomniac, Epic and yes...even capcom..

[Wurider]

The thing that puts GOW and Halo over Resistance, Uncharted, Killzone 2 is that they (RFOM, Killzone) are not bonafide blockbuster system sellers. No one is going to buy a Ps3 to play Uncharted or Resistance and I may go even farther to even include MGS4. The later are games that will sell well to the folks that already have the system but are not system seller ( it is debatable if even Gears can possible be put in this group). That is the simple truth. Just because Gears sold 4-6 million copies doesn't make it a better game than Uncharted or Resistance or MGS4 but you guys can't be ignorant enough to not to believe that Gears is the new beast of this generation. To the Xbox fanboys there is no need to trash every Ps3 exclusive. To the Ps3 fanboys just because a game is a Ps3 exclusive that doesn't mean that it is the best thing since sliced bread.

[Niclas]

Plx Stop fighting about which games r best (GeOW2, KZ2, MSG4, R:FOM2) !?!?!?!??! these games arent out yet? no one .. and i mean NO one knows which ones r gonna be AAA titles (if any of them)

Theres no doubt they all look like they r gonna be extremely cool! only ignorant fanboys would say otherwise.. (lol exept GeOW2 which we havent even seen a damn trailer from.. but its Epic okay, they kinda know what they r doing ;P)

Halo3 completely owns R:FOM on every front posibel (Take it from a guy that has both oka)

GeOW and Uncharted is equally good .. the gameplay is just as good, though GeOW's wpns r a little cooler i think ;P .. and sure GeOW got a (a year ago oka) kick-ass MP .. but Uncharted has got great Platforming gameplay 2 and the grafix totally spank GeOW, + the story is also a little better in Uncharted and it also features like GoW and RE4 button smashers in in-game movies (Which i think acually ads alot to the gameplay, and is kinda a must in all great action nex-gen games)

[Kain81]

sony will announce GoW3 at GDC, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Motorstorm 2,
Shadow of the Colossus 2.......

On Topic i believe that Gears are good, but nothing more I doubt that Gears 2 will be better than the first one, than we had to many lags in Online gaming with only 8 Gamers and that sucks.

I believe that Resistance 2 will be better on Graphics, if the scans that we have seen are In-game. Gears 1 has 80% of the performance of the 360 (Mark Rein) if its true, than i believe that we will not seen any Graphicaly evolution.

Sorry for my bad english ( I am a German^^)

[bootsielon]

"you need 3 years to make a good game

I don't want Epic pulling an Insomniac just for the $$$ "

Hahahaha, you love to cheapshot, don't ya toughNAME?

Seriously though, you probably need 3 years to make new IP, but just 2 years to re-use and optimize the already made engine on already created IP (So I agree with mart on that one). The best thing is that these games have more people expecting them, that's why sequels are so profitable: You spend less on creating new IP and a new Engine and instead you recycle resources, but you sell more.

That's why Sony made a good investment at the beginning of PS3's life; lots of new IP that would sell but not as much as their sequels. The next year with a bigger install base sees a lot of sequels that people are expecting, and with a lower price, Sony is in FTW.

Gears is a great case of original IP that was so hyped, that it sold more than any original IP. Gears 2 will probably sell like the third Halo, though I really doubt they'll innovate much unless they make the game longer, put more players on the game online, add a richer color palette, more gameplay modes, more guns and more than 6 hours of single player campaign. Perhaps now that insomniac announced 8-player co-op, Epic will aim for that.

[mintaro]

woot, gears 2 would be an awsome addition in 08

[Bombomb]

will Murder any Shooter in 2008.

I'm willing to bet that's with KZ2 and resistance 2 together, that game will take on both with sales, and that's just 1 game.

I also suspect UT3 for the 360 will sell more.

All speculation...I got a good feeling this game will be the Halo 2 of sales. Hopefully not as rushed as that game was. This would be a great announcement.

[Whoooop]

They better release it...

God knows 360 needs something this year to keep up.

However it's highly unlikely for GeOW2 to fully shine like the first one when you have games like GT5, MGS4, KZ2, FF, LBP and RSFM2 this year.

It's like holyfield fighting against Lewis, klichko brothers, tyson, rocky marciano, foreman and Ali.

[kewlkat007]

so when can I Pre-Order?

This is one of the main reasons why I bought my 360 so early. After E3 2006 teaser, it was a done deal.

Plenty of games in 08 for sure..my biggest problem is I have too many consoles and not enough time.

[sheng long]

wow, more fanboy bull$hit from the usual suspects, shocking!

[Balance]

i actually liked the 4v4 in gears, it kept the insane everyone on top of everyone stuff down that happens in other games and it made your life that much more important. huxley is going to be awsome we really need to see some stuff from that.

[Ko_Uraki]

I can smell fear around the sony fandroids.

[MetalProxy]

Sorry no fear here sucka!! I have alot to look forward to, how about you?

[doomsonyman]

@Ko_Uraki i wish you would have shown your face and said that when UNITED WE FALL was announced. oh yeahhhhh:) i forgot. you were to busy drooling over the scans and praying to you HAZE shrine. you worshship us! you wish you could amount to the type of high class gamer we are and have been for the past 2 generations. and in this one! you wish the name XBOX wored threw the industry like the playstation brand name does. you will never be us if you have an xbox 360. you have to step out of your delusion and play with the gods of the industry! THE SONYMEN

[Spike47]

how xbots are having orgasms over gears 2.

Just like halo3.

Sony does'nt need to have a better fps than gears 2, they control worldwide sales with something called VARIETY in games.

FF13,ffversus13,LBP,mgs4,gow3 ,resistance 2 will all sell more than in just America unlike you're pathetic galo or gears.

[Daz]

Im not be funny but you go in the first resistance 2 fread and you have a look lol, talk about huge orgy. You are so stupid.

Fanboys are the same as each other but dont relize it. There to busy with sticking there head up there arse and talking sh1t.

[PS3n360]

every title you listed is a sequel one as high as 13 how is that variety. The kettle calling the pot black there. I like sequels personally but your comment is absurd. 360 has more titles than ps3 - fact. for every game you listed the 360 has at least one parallel title so there is variety on both platforms.

[PS3n360]

Do you think 60 people playing solitaire would work? the 4v4 is perfect for this game. any more and it would be ruined. as it is it is an up close and personal experience. over the course of a single match against 4 other people you get to know their style and have to adjust yours to beat them. You see them coming across the map you know who is who by there character, you eithr run like hell or chase em down. It gets hilarious with the sh1t talk between rounds too as people get worked up and taunted by the dominating players, this just can not happen with 60 people on at one in a huge boring frag fest you could play almost as effectively with your eyes closed and your finger holding down fire. Gears is my all time favourite game and millions of others agree. Gears 2 will be the first game I ever pre-order since gears 1 sold out everywhere and I had to drive an hour to get it.

[Daz]

Because fanboys are stupid and dont relize things like this.
good post

Fanboys got to relize that bigger dont always mean better.

[MetalProxy]

I tried it and couldnt stand it. Its craptastic grenade throw'n, camping, predictable BS...You need more people in there to mix it up. Iam sure if it supported 10 more people you guys would be screaming it from the top of some mountain.

[FirstknighT]

Naaaa, 4v4 is perfect for intense competitive action. You won't see that in a 30v30 game. That just turns into a boring sloppy fragfest.

[RRoDx360]

Another sub par Gays of War. Have fun with 2v2 online TEAM deathmatch!!!! On a $50 sub par online service that only works have the time. Haha. This game is so generic the Nintendo DS could run it. Btw, it's comin' to the DS and PSP anyways.

[Daz]

Yeah it was graet fun playing 2vs 2 you should try it with mates.
must be the way the games designed to make 2vs 2 and 4 vs 4 so much fun.

My online works great for some reson i must be lucky.

God i loose 3.50 a month i cannot afford because im a tight fuc0ker. Joke.

But everyone has there opinion and you hate everything microsoft.

[zonetrooper5]

I just hope that Epic give us more of a story this time round and make it 6 vs 6 players online. Improve the graphics which they wil do, improve the sound, improve A.I. Add a better online, servers or matchmaking will do. P2P and servers have advantages and disadvantages btw so don't give me BS on Servers being teh best lol. If the server has crap specs then its pointless and it will lag. P2P can be faster or slower then servers depending on the hardware and software involved.

[MK_Red]

Hope if they indeed announce it, they don't go and rush it. Original Gears was an intense and captivating game which also happened to be the best looking game of it's time. Hopefully the sequel will be as great in all aspects and if the rumor is indeed true then another game will be added to my list of top 10 most anticipated.

[GITPWNED]

OMG would someone kill this surfer idiot already. no one cares what he thinks. who the f*ck is he?

[Trick Nolte]

Gears Of War2. To me the Xbox360 is a faulty POS. I swear to God that my cousin just called MS to replace his 4TH 360. He has a back up from a sweepstakes from decal girl that he's now using, thankfully.

GOW1/GOW2 is the only reason I would ever consider buying a Core 360 and I would pray like hell that it allowed me to finish the game before it bricked.

The 360 is famous for bricking on realease dates for big games. Those people stories of how their systems bricked on the release dates for Halo3 and Bioshock stories left me shaking my head in disgust.

Non the less, I have always been a huge Gears fan and to me, its the only worthwhile reason to buy a 3fixme.

[shotputking]

your little cousin needs to have someone else set up his xbox in a well ventilated space. i have 2 360's, one from launch. several friends have their launch 360's since launch. the biggest problem with the 360 is that is not intended for the same 12 and under audience the ps3 is aimed at, the 360 is intended for an audience who can take care of their electronics. also the reason the internet is being overrun by little kids who HATE the 360 with a passion. "damn you american's and your gaming machine! Japan ftw!!!!" seems to be about 95% of the comments on here anymore, and this used to be a phenomonal site. 360 owners, although there are twice as many total, and the majority of them are in the u.s., not split with japan, seem to make up a minority of the internet community, probably because they're still playing all their '07 games, and trying to make way for the 20+ great games coming out for the 360 this year (and yes, i know that the ps3 is getting mgs4 this year, and a shortened gran turismo, a couple experimental games, a facebook competitor... cool, sorry, but these all appeal to niche markets, even the great metal gear, which has never sold extremely well... we'll see how konami feels when they actually end up losing money on their "masterpiece"), instead of spreading venom all over this site becuase of how much they hate the 360 because someone at school said it "suckzorz" or whatever they say about it.
back on topic, gears of war is an all time great game. if you don't like it, you haven't played it. and if you think any cookie cutter fps even holds a candle to it, you're just an idiot. gears 2 will be great, and i can't wait for it.

[captainjy]

Well your cousin is freaking tard and needs to learn that he can't stuff any electronics device into a corner on the floor. If it were a PSFree, it would have burned your house and neighborhood down and he would have had bigger things to worry about. He's lucky.

[wallace1000]

There is so much fanboy crap in here. Just because you own a console doesn't mean you have to hate the competition. Just because positive news is posted for the 360 doesn't mean you have to go on the defensive if you own a PS3. This site needs to learn a thing or two from AVSforum. Next to the title of this article it should read (if you aren't here for xbox 360 game news or to talk about Gears then move on). Why are PS3 games and the PSN being mentioned so many times in here? It isn't a competition guys!

[Pain]

Bla bla bla xbots..... WarHawk,RFOM,UT3,Halo(yea i said Halo) are Much beter games the Gears.
And lets Not add Haze yet, that will be another good one(Hello!!!! FreeRadacal Bond and Perfect Dark and TimeSlitter guys and TS2/3 had 16 players last gen too)

-Warhwak outright pwns gears as 3rd person shooter.
-UT3 is no flop on PS3 mabey lacking its PC fan base sure but no flop.
-Gears is 4x4 online play is so far from unacceptable this Gen its not funny.
-u mean u pay a online fee to play with 7 other people?????
-ill take my free lag free 32 players in warhawk thx.

But i will say How much did M$ pay to Not have Gears on PS3?? any bets?

[Xbox is the BEST]

just like Halo 2 million seller day one

[GITPWNED]

Actually, I think you mean 2.4 mill day one.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Yeaaaa!!! Gears 2 Woo! More weapons, more enemies, a longer campaign and some actual bosses would make the game awesome. Brumak anyone?

[doomsonyman]

lol more like less enemys, less weapons, no boss battles and i'll be nice:) 5 on 5 player online. it sounds like a great game.

[HarryEtTubMan]

Yippy I MIGHT buy 2 games on my 360 in 2008. haha

[OOG FunK]

coo coo gears is fun for a lil while

[Myth]

Gears of War 2 - PS3 exclusive!

[TwissT]

Gears 2 awesome, the first one was great hope Epic can deliver.

[supnub5]

3fixme users say that live 4vs4 battles is a better online experience then 30vs30

[DJ]

The fanatics stick by the "Less is More" excuse. Less console power, smaller games, and fewer capabilities are what guarantee success in their eyes.

It's going to be fun to see how Gears 2 stacks up against the likes of Killzone and Resistance later this year. In fact, it'll probably be undeniable proof that Sony was under-exaggerating their hardware advantage over Microsoft (which is true).

[Xbox is the BEST]

will own POS#3

[KingKirchner]

That would be pretty cool. I'd be able to play it at my friend's house. (if I could talk him into buying it). He didn't buy the first one, so I have yet to play it. But it looks awesome.

(on of my friends owns 360, i own PS3)

[Myth]

"My point is only that R2 will be re-using previous assets."

Um no sir

"With 60 players, we want to give that sense of epic battle. We actually think more focused squad-versus-squad gameplay is going to be best. You'll log into a lobby with smaller four - to eight-person squads. Your squad will usually be tasked with a particular objective-each squad might have a different goal on the field. Likewise your opponets will have rival objectives."

[joeynox]

Anyone that plays day of defeat or cs or any real online game will tell you that 20+ players is overkill. Its just 1 giant deathmatch and no team work. Gears of war was designed to play 4x4 . Its not a run and gun shootout,Unreal is,quake is. Personally I prefer no more that 20 .Call of duty does it great with 18 I believe. Now if we are talking about a maps/world like planetside then hell yea more is better.
Also why is it whenever news come out about a specific console or a game it always turns into fanboy gayness. Gears of war is a great game and i'm sure the 2nd one with be just as good if not better and Im sure if it was on the ps3 or the wii those console owners would be loving every minute of it. All this fanboy pissy sh!t really kills reading these news stories.

[DJ]

But teamwork seems to be dependent on the actual players, not the size of the multiplayer matches. Even with 16v16 games, I've seen a lot of cooperation in Warhawk, not necessarily with the team acting as one entity, but with teams splitting into subgroups in order to achieve the objective at hand.

I know people that still prefer the 4v4 matches (which is also in games like Warhawk), but limiting every player to JUST 4v4 is kind of pitiful. That said, I hope Insomniac keeps the scalability factor from the first Resistance and still allows for those small, intimate matches, as well as the epic 30 vs. 30 matches.

[Big Jim]

I hope they can improve the draw distance in part 2, the draw distance in the first was terrible. Maybe the worst I've ever seen in a game.

[JBaby343]

I do hope they make it longer. So many people have badmouthed PS3 games for being short but as pretty as gears looked it was the shortest game I think I've played on a next gen console. They really need to make it longer and give the option of large and small MP matches. If they can do this (oh and give it a little more story) then it will rock.