Wii U Darksiders 2 graphics "at least as good" as PS3, Xbox 360 versions'

The graphics of the Wii U version of Darksiders 2 are "at least as good" as the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions', developer Vigil has said.

[WildStyles]

Dat shitstorm

[Titanz]

It's not about the Wii U being at parity with current gen HD consoles (It's been stated as a "fact" that the Wii U packs more hardware power than the PS3 and Xbox 360), it's about the ease of game development.

1 programmer, 5 minutes, and two lines of codes, to get Darksiders ll running on the Wii Upad controller. The Wii U console is very, "developer friendly" (which translates into; a lot of 3rd party support).

[KonaBro]

And yet graphics will be at least as good as PS3/360? Spin it however you want but it has nothing to do with game development. It's obvious Nintendo is going to put hardware that is a little bit better than PS3/360 but they aren't going to go much further than that. The Wii showed them that they can make money with weak hardware and Wii U looks to continue that trend.

Also, developer friendly does not translate to a lot of 3rd party support because many third party studios decided not to make games for the Wii because they didn't want to go against the Nintendo first-party juggernauts. Nintendo might have Ubisoft and Vigil games on board, but I highly expect the same trend to continue for Wii U unless Nintendo can prove that it is worthwhile to develop games on the Wii U when they can make more money on the HD twins for considerable less money.

[Chromer]

KonaBro dropping bombs.

[Statix]

The reality of the current situation in videogame development is that being "developer friendly" has nothing to do with how much 3rd party support a console gets. If your console has a large install base, then it doesn't matter whatsoever how hard or easy your console is to develop for. The PS3, for example, gets nearly every 3rd party, multiplatform game that comes out, yet it's generally considered the most complex console to develop for.

3rd party developers will make games for your console, so long as it has a large enough install base.

[Arnon]

"One developer working on Wii U, who wished to remain anonymous, told Eurogamer Wii U ports will at best look as good as PS3 and Xbox 360 games."

Lol... an anonymous developer.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Ben_Grimm]

@KonaBro
"It's obvious Nintendo is going to put hardware that is a little bit better than PS3/360 but they aren't going to go much further than that."

How do you know this? The multiplats for Ps3 and 360 have very little graphical differences so why cant we apply it to the WiiU?

"many third party studios decided not to make games for the Wii because they didn't want to go against the Nintendo first-party juggernauts."

Gawd you are so wrong. Many third parties didn't make games for Wii because most of them couldnt be ported to Wii due to extra work redefining the controls or just lack of power.

"when they can make more money on the HD twins for considerable less money."

Speechless, you just blurt out things that make no sense what so ever.

[GraveLord]

Sometimes developer-friendly isn't enough.
You also need good relationships with 3rd party publishers. This is what Nintendo lacks.

EA publicly announcing their support of Wii U last year at E3 was a step in the right direction. More of that please.

[PopRocks359]

Wow, the commenters here are sharp. A week after Gearbox says that the Wii U version of their current gen game will look better than the other two, everyone feels the need to let this announcement suddenly dictate the Wii U's graphical prowess. Wait until E3 when we some exclusives as oppose to 3rd party multiplatforms that are being ported to Wii U.

Also, to those of you who say that development has nothing to do with it, look at the PS3 and 360. The 360 won a lot of early adopters because it had more games on it. This was because the PS3 was difficult to develop games on.

[MariaHelFutura]

Why all of a sudden is everyone so concerned w/ how much profit these companies make?

[jeseth]

Congratulations, you've vreated a game on a brand new console that looks "at least as good" as 2 systems that are 6 and 7 years respectively.

This is why I am still so dissapointed in Nintendo, the system I grew up on. I haven't been impressed with Nintendo since SNES came out, and N64 after that.

"At least as good", hilarious. That means Gears and Uncharted will look exceptionally better considering Darksiders isn't a very good looking game to begin with!

[joab777]

it makes no sense. Is this a complememt? Our system is a little better than an archaic console that is getting iys a$% kicked by pc right. No, it isnt. So, this remote better be the next coming of motion control for casual players or...I guess i understand that their first party games that sell alot do not need the newest tech, and i understand that no one is gonna buy the wiiU as their main hardcore gaming machine, but had they made a significant jump, they coulda made a move like microsoft did last gen or at least make some gamers who buy one consider whether they really need to drop $600 on a ps4 or 720. Yeah, they can be viable with their first party titles but they were number one because of motion control, not mario. And, how will it feel to have the crappy version of disney epic mickey 3 when it does come? A game that was initially made for nintendo is multiplatform now and if it makes a 3rd game, it will release on 720 and ps4. Im a little confused. Many gamers arent going to drop money for 2 reasons. 1, is that they are waiting for the release of the 720 or ps4 & 2, there are enough great big blockbusters to keep them busy until then. Whata missed opportunity.

[donman1]

The play on words, intentional or not, is how these debates on the GPU capability of the Wii U constantly comes into question. If he had said the PS3 and the Xbox360 visuals are on par with the Wii U then we would not have these battles with fanboys.

Listen, it is less than three weeks left to E3 2012.. try not to get caught up in all this crazy talk of the Wii U being a supercomputer with future GPU or it being less powerful than the Atari (clearly i am exaggerate what being post on this site and others.)

[Amphion]

Nice...so basically a brand new system is as good as a 7 year old one. Awesome......

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

Exactly, all Nintendo has to do now is research for a time traveling machine and they will be able to compete for the core gamers market they claim to want!

[swat_teem]

COOL where can i get one of those time machines :P lets change the past who needs that anyway

[Moncole]

The devs said its as good as PC on high settings.
In another article I read

[TitanUp]

did you really believe that? i don't think even ps4 and xbox 8 are going to have enough hardware to do that.

[yabhero]

That was Crytek... they said the got CyrEngine 3 running at high on WiiU... not that the WiiU overall is as good as a high end PC but that it can run games on high...
the reason this guy said this is NOT because WiiU is on the same level PS3 and Xbox, he said this to shut up those idiots who thought the WiiU was weaker than current gen... little did he know... LOL that hater would turn into something else

[abzdine]

I'm not gonna wait for a 399$+ Wii U to play Darksiders 2. I'll stick with the PS3 version !

[legend911]

It's $300, real smart buddy.

[Skate-AK]

I highly doubt Wii U will be $300.

[legend911]

Yes Skate, they are not going to put that kind of hardware in and do that. Like the saying goes, you guys are quick to believe negative and very unlikely rumors, most proven to be a fake, but when something positive comes up, "OMAGAWSH, THIS IS FAKE, NOT TRUE! WII U SUCKS!" Real mature guys.

[Mykky]

I agree with you on both of your comments. Nintendo won't overprice the Wii U I think they should have learned from the Wii and the 3DS. Wii selling like hotcakes and the 250$ 3DS that no one wanted to buy.
I think 300-350$ sounds good.

[Fishy Fingers]

Not to shabby, if launch titles can live up to 6+ years current console experience. It must have a reasonable amount of juice. Clearly not "next-gen" though.

Seems people forget that the PS3/360 launch titles didnt exactly showcase the consoles potential.

[nolifeking]

Regardless, none of them were "on par" with games from the previous generation.

[BattleTorn]

this.

I don't get why their making it sound like an accomplishment for the Wii U to get "on par" with the PS3/X360.

What's the situation going to be in a year, or two? When Crysis 3 comes out, or other games that are a few years away.

Like, will the Wii U be able to play Bungie's new IP - aka Destiny? Or games like Fallout4, or Assassins Creed 4 (when they're announced) Those are the questions that should be important.

Not, whether or not the Wii U is "on par" to last gen, at launch.

[dragonyght]

"Darksiders II Wii U graphics at least as good as PS3, Xbox 360"
oh really thats a bad sign lol

[LOL_WUT]

Yup, not looking good. Also its funny how people bring up Gearbox (the makers of Aliens) to counter this when they are not even known for making spectacular graphics.

[PopRocks359]

You people are either very good trolls or incredibly stupid.

http://www.examiner.com/art...

@LOL_WUT

Since when are Vigil and THQ known for super detailed graphics?

Epic and Crytek are both on the positive side of the Wii U and they're both huge on video game graphics. Your argument is a complete failure.

[ATi_Elite]

that is just the Devs making a PS3/360 version and just porting the game over to the Wiiu and PC!

Not enough time for proper Development or just being LAZY! I'll go with the first one cause the game was in development long ago.

The WiiU is FAR superior than the PS3/360! It has an AMD HD4000 series GPU in it.

The HD4000 GPU KILLS the Nvidia RSX/7800 (PS3) and the AMD X1800 GPU (360)!

[torchic]

oh that's right, you're a Nintendo employee that's how you know all the Wii U specs. gotcha.

end sarcasm.

[ronin4life]

"At least" means that this level of power is a starting point.
Such a starting point on a quick port/multiplatform game seems to say that the wiiu is pretty capable, not barely capable.

Unless, of course, you would say the ps3 is as powerful as the 360 because they both run CoD the same.

[ieatbabies]

They say Wii U is this and that , but no gameplay has ever been seen, other than very short demo of Zelda at E3?

Hyping up gameplay that doesn't exist and based on no proof is set up for failure.

Remember Reginald Fils-Aime was exposed for using gameplay from the Sony Playstation 3 and Microsoft XBOX 360 and claiming it was Nintendo Wii U gameplay?

You'd think being the oldest gaming company with millions of profits from milked franchises and casual games for children catered for children, they'd change things up a bit and compete more heavily with PS, XBOX, and PC in terms in hardware and have more variety titles.

Nintendo is 2 years shy of 30 years of gaming and still rely on Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Pokemon. I used to be a fan of Nintendo years ago and came to a realization that they're too mediocre.

You thought companies that develope games for PS3 and XBOX 360 were bad at milking? Nintendo is king of milking franchises.

[Fishy Fingers]

Perhaps, but I read no shortage of similar claims surrounding 360/PS3 games way before any gameplay is shown.

People just seem to be bending over themselves to be negative towards the Wii U.

Like you said, there no proof it matches the current gen, as well as there is no proof it doesnt. The dudes working on the hardware, I'm pretty sure his impressions are somewhat valid.

Edit: Thats 3 edit and 3 new paragraphs. Each one showing your just trying to hard now dude.

[ieatbabies]

I see watching people on the internet is your full-time job lol.

[Fishy Fingers]

Indeed. Pays better than trolling.

[DA_SHREDDER]

The fact is the pc can already do games @ 60fps and we already know what the best graphics look like. The WiiU is gonna be a totally different beast than anything out before. Can't wait.

[bothebo]

YES JUST YES!!

[admiralthrawn87]

360 launch multiplatform titles were basically "on par" with the xbox original counterparts. Look at Gun, Madden 06 etc. The only difference was resolution which is because this current gen is the first with HD capable boxes. Sort of, neither the ps3 or 360 hit real HD very often. Quite far below actually and half the time below 640p.

[user5467007]

Well since it's a next gen console the graphics should be better then any current gen consoles.

[abzdine]

it's maybe next gen gameplay and not graphics, like the Wii was when it first came out (after 360).

[rdgneoz3]

Maybe. But one thing that pops into mind is about the 360's policy in the last few years on multiplats. That the games had to release on the 360 before or at the same time as other systems, and had to be on par with them in order for it to work. That last part is what has me curious.
Such as if the ps3 / 360 versions were gonna be 720p and the wii u version could be 1080p, would they just release the wii u version with only 720 as a result.

[Trago1337]

Guys, Gearbox already confirmed that the Wii U is in fact " A next generation console" and that "it's more powerful" so before any skeptics type on, they should watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Fishy Fingers]

Dude, I'm pretty sure posting some comments on N4G makes you more experienced when it comes to the Wii-U's hardware than people who actually have it and make games for it.

[Shok]

Fishy, I'm disappointed.

[KonaBro]

So we should just ignore this news coming from another Wii U developer just because Gearbox said Wii U is 'more powerful?" Please tell me you aren't truly this naive?

[Fishy Fingers]

Which developers exactly, why dont you enlighten us?

Edit: No? Shocking.

[Trago1337]

I wouldn't say naive, I'm just adding some clarification for those who might not know by now. In terms of this bit of news, vigil have already stated that this game wont have any graphical enhancements outside of resolution and some textures, this is a launch title after all :P

[Shok]

"This is a multiplat, and it's up to the INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS whether or not they want to spend the extra time and money to take advantage of the more powerful hardware. It won't "at least" be on par because the Wii U is weak, it'll at least be on par because they may not work on it to make it any better."

For instance, the Gearbox dude said they'll take advantage of the more powerful hardware. Vigil, simply, will not. It's as simple as that.

Perfect example.

[BubloZX]

When they say more powerful are they referring to the wii in terms of power or the 360 and PS3

[Rampaged Death]

Nintendo will be lagging behind again in a few years time. I just hope they can support it longer than they did with the Wii.

[ieatbabies]

Also, Wii U are receiving games that are already on PS3 and Xbox 360 years after lol. Come on. What is this?

[abzdine]

and they will add a Mario underwear to the main character to make things different :)

[mshope10]

he meant if they do the least they can do it will be on par with 360 and ps3.dont be mad cause wii u is going to be good why do yinz care if you dont like nintendo and dont want to own one?

[fossilfern]

I Think the Wii U is alot more powerful than people are making it out to be. There was a Leak the Assassins Creed 3 will be 1080p at 60FPS on the WiiU and there are some leaked specs:

http://www.nowgamer.com/new...

[BubloZX]

Lol those are rumored specs. And it hasn't been announced what systems will run Unreal 4 yet lol.

[Ck1x]

Which clearly we know that the current HD systems will be no where near 1080p... I know people like reading into things, but Vigil simply isn't putting more time into making the WiiU version look better! Not that they can't, but face it THq is broke and have no business splurging on anything right now. But if anyone thinks that WiiU versions of any multiplats can't look better than ps3/360 are delusional.

[fossilfern]

Your right and I should of said rumoured specs on my link lol but I dont think they genuine. People need to think, what would be the point in making something only a little bit or on par with the 360 and PS3? To have some a "little" faster than the PS3 and 360 would mean nintendo would have to get parts that aren't in circulation any more!

The WiiU will defiantly be more powerful than both 360 and PS3 and wouldn't be surprised if multi-plats turn out better than the 360 and PS3, and first party Nintendo games looking better than PS3 and 360! Just because Vigil games are saying it will be just as good is not a representation of the systems power

[Shok]

Can't believe this makes some people thing that it means the Wii U will actually be on-ar with current gen.

Are you guys daft?

This is a multiplat, and it's up to the INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS whether or not they want to spend the extra time and money to take advantage of the more powerful hardware. It won't "at least" be on par because the Wii U is weak, it'll at least be on par because they may not work on it to make it any better.

[Trago1337]

that's kinda what the guy in the article was saying, but i dunno why people think it's because it was weak lol

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

@ SHOK Don't you know that HATERS can't hear you over the little Hater-Monsters on their shoulders whispering nonsense into their brains? This is Scientific Law.

The only way this is going to be dispelled is when or if, Nintendo allows it.

This says it all (imo):

[nintendojunkie28]

"This is a multiplat, and it's up to the INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS whether or not they want to spend the extra time and money to take advantage of the more powerful hardware. It won't "at least" be on par because the Wii U is weak, it'll at least be on par because they may not work on it to make it any better."

Exactly!...Dead on,shok.

[shackdaddy]

He said the graphics in the game for the wiiu version will look just as good as the graphics in the game for the PS360. This is on par with what they said last year on how they weren't planning on scaling the graphics at all.

I don't get why people make the connection that this means the hardware on the wiiu will be the same.

W/e though, haters gonna hate. Stupid fanboys...

[PopRocks359]

"Stupid fanboys..."

That's pretty much the best way to describe most of the posters of the moronic comments above. Gearbox has already stated the Wii U version of Aliens will look best; that alone pretty much confirms that regardless of how much, the Wii U is more powerful than its HD predecessors.

Not to mention this an announcement of a multiplatform port. What were they expecting? For Vigil to Darksiders II into something that looks closer to an Unreal Engine 4 game? Get real.

[mochachino]

Either the Wii U has current gen hardware or the devs are too lazy to utilize Wii U's additional power...

[WildStyles]

Whenever I get the Wii U (not at launch), it's not going to be for multiplats. No point in buying a system where graphics for multiplats will either be the same or a little above current consoles. I can play them just fine on my PS3. I'm going to get it for the exclusives. Games I can't find on any consoles. Plus the install base will be much larger on the current consoles until the other new systems come out. Meaning more people to play online with.

[corrus]

You're very funny have you seen something from WII U no you have heard only Nintendo they lying i ma sure that on E3 will show only their Mario Zelda Pikmin 3 till Sony and Microsoft shows real games like Resident Evil 6 Crysis 3 and Far Cry3

[pecorre]

I won't buy a new console just to play the same game that I can play on my current gen systems. That's a big waste of money. I'd rather wait for the next playstation or xbox.

[Ashunderfire86]

Facepalm!!! to the people who still think Wii U is less powerful.

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[LX-General-Kaos]

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[MrMister]

A little more RAM and slightly better processor wont be enough to get 3rd party company's to port games to Wii-U when REAL next gen consoles come out. The extra cost of making a dedicated team to create a last-gen port of next gen games, is just not worth the time and money for developers who will already be on a tight budget when the next gen consoles arrive.

The guy in the video hinted that the extra RAM and processing power gives only a slight advantage over ps3 and 360. The only thing that is significantly greater is the range of controls that the tablet brings. Besides, PS4 & 720 could easily utilize a touch screen or make a tablet too. But if history means anything, just like the original wii, the wii-u is likely to get left in the dust by 3rd party's again since it cant keep up to next gen wen they finally come out.

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[GenHero]

i'll just leave this here

[Ashunderfire86]

Dude your going to be blown away, just like what that old guy said in this one commercial,"You gonna like the way you look... I guarantee it."

http://www.youtube.com/user...

Let me paraphrase that!!! You gonna like the way the Wii U look... I gaurantee it. Plus Microsoft and Sony might put in that stupid anti-used game crap, which will scary away people!!! And people will come back to Nintendo. Nintendo is in a perfect position, they know what they are doing.

[Klad]

"At least as good as" is not a bad thing. PS3 & Xbox 360's graphics are amazing! Plus this does not mean that the wii U is under powered. it most likely means that the developers have just chosen not to improve on the graphics for this multiplat game. Its just a business move for them, plus they will be utilising the different controls on the Wii U, so that the game will still be different on the Wii U. Its not that the system cant handle better graphics, because it most likely can,(As Gearbox have stated).

If you doubters think that The Wii U will be just on par with current systems, then you are going to be in for a BIG SHOCK at E3! Even the boss of Epic Games told you that!

E3 in two weeks...

[Drainage]

if they are just gonna port it with shitty graphics, then i wont bother with it.

[Klad]

So your sayin that PS3 & Xbox 360 has shitty graphics?

[DigitalAnalog]

I'm surprised with the comments. Even with the developer giving FIRST HAND information that the system is actually more powerful than the current HD consoles, people still insist that the Wii-U is weaker? How is it that a bunch of unnamed devs have more credibility than the ones developing it?

"Wii U graphics “at least as good” as PS3, Xbox 360"

What the hell does this mean anyway? I can also say that the Witcher 2 on the 360 looks "at least as good" as the PC except with the bells and whistles that is.

[isntchrisl]

They are rushing to make sure all versions come out on time. They're only going to put in extra effort with tablet features. But who knows how much they'll make use of it. You should not take his quotes as an indicator of the Wii U's power more than they are of a developer trying to ship out 4 versions of the same game on day 1.

[modesign]

so much for those tards that said the wii u is as strong as a ps3, keep sucking nintendo dick

[TenkoTAiLS]

It's batshit crazy to think for a second that even using generic cheap graphics card from today's market that a new machine "will be just as good" as six year old hardware, and even six years ago what was in the 360 and PS3 wasn't new. Today's low end cards for PC beat the crap out of what's in the current consoles. Imagine the low price Nintendo will pay to buy in bulk being a big company.

Many NAMED developers and studios have said they are impressed, that we will be surprised at E3. Even people like Epic and Crytek that have had nothing but scathing comments for Nintendo for years. And then people base all their beliefs in "unnamed sources and unnamed developers" and the fact that Nintendo has made ONE underpowered home console for the generation it's been released in. If it "looks just as good" then its the third party developers doing a quick port and not taking advantage of the machine, plain and simple. Because even a low end machine built with today's tech is capable of much better than what the current six year old consoles can do. For the love of the Internet people use your brains!!

[Ck1x]

The easiest way to put this is that, Xbox 360 was the target system for this game as it is for most of the multiplats this generation. This is why Vigil's comment of the WiiU version being on par graphically rings true, because it was contrived initially for the 360 and ported to the other respective systems. Hence Gearbox's Randy Pitchford, stating that Aliens CM is not a port and was being developed in tandem with the other versions. Which is why the game will look better on the WiiU in this case and in any case to which a developer chooses to take advantage of the hardware.

[xtreampro]

The rumoured GPU & CPU to be used in the Wii U completely destroy the PS3's GPU+Cell and also the 360's setup so what makes you fanboys think it's underpowered?

Are you people brain dead? There's been so many advances in CUP and GPU technology over the past 5 years, Nintendo could use any CPU/GPU combo available today and still wipe the floor with both the 360 & PS3 so please go back to LA-LA Land and STAY THERE!

DS2 will probably just be a port, there was an anonymous developer who said that games built from the ground up for the Wii U (just like PS3's scenario) will show it's true capabilities.

[NYC_Gamer]

It's a port so what do people expect?

[birdy966]

It shouldn't be news that a next gen console will have graphics as good as current gen consoles, but that's nintendo I guess...

[stuna1]

I guess everyone on all sides have time machines and, crystal balls or what have you!!

Best believe someone going to be disappointed ir-regardless of what turns out to be accurate as far as power is concerned involving the wii u specs, but these pissing contests aren't helping anybody case!

For all anybody knows, the ones who swear they are right, just might wrong and, the ones everyone is saying is wrong might be right!!!!

Also a quick question or, two!?!
1) How many generation prior too this one have these exact questions been asked????

2) When all had been revealed, how accurate were the answer or, better yet how musch of the end product turned out to be smoke and mirrors????

The end result is the WII U will be what it is, regardless of the squabbling going on among you and nothing will change that!!!!

Just think it has already failed in some people eyes, and other people eyes, it has already succeeded.
The same rules will apply to the other consoles as well.

If anything E3 will be the final seat of judgement, just be prepared for the verdict! However way it may go.

[deletingthis34675334]

OMG people need to chill the f*** out. You are looking at a port. If you look at a little history with ports you will understand that ports are going to be bad indicators on how powerful the Wii U actually will be. It doesn't matter if the Wii U will be 2x or even 50x more powerful than the Xbox360 and PS3, Vigil will not push the Wii U capabilities to its potential with this game. They will focus on the U-Pad controller.

[BitbyDeath]

Why do people care what sort of graphics the Wii U has anyway? The Wii got by just fine on it's graphics so why jump into the crapstorm that is the PS3/360 graphics comparison.

I rememeber when gaming used to be about games...

[GenHero]

this is what was said: "Darksiders II Wii U graphics at least as good as PS3, Xbox 360"

this is what haters read: "Wii U graphics at least as good as PS3, Xbox 360"

[CaptainN]

That's funny because in this article :

http://www.capsulecomputers...

It was said:

Last of all, there’s the fact that a premium title such as Darksiders is being released on WiiU. Nintendo is making sure that everyone remains tight-lipped on details, but Greiner did reveal that since the WiiU is a next gen console we can expect it to really impress. Plus, he hinted that it will definitely be a unique experience and will make use of the WiiU controller's abilities.

So put all the Wii-U hate away, if the games doesn't impress, it has nothing to do with the hardware, its on THQ bottom line!

[jacksheen0000]

For its part, Nintendo has said its focus with the Wii U is gameplay, not graphics. "We do not focus on technology specs," Nintendo said in March of this year. "We understand that people like to dissect graphics and processing power, but the experience of playing will always be more important than raw numbers."

Hopefully this statement isn't true cause if it is, the Wii U will definitely end up like the wii scenario.

[Jagsrock]

wonder why the article didn't use this quote as the title instead? hmmm
"plenty of horsepower", "so we're not going to have to make any visual concessions at all".