Roundtable: Can Xbox 360 Rule '08?

In '07, Xbox 360 had a killer line-up of top-tier titles. But that didn't keep Wii from surpassing the 360's install base. With Sony gearing up for a big year on PS3 and moms and dads flocking to the Wii, what does Microsoft need to do to win the console wars in 2008?

[toughNAME]

Quality does not matter, just like the Wii the PS3 will eventually pass the Xbox 360

The experience and brand name the other two bring to the table cannot be matched by Microsoft, atleast not this generation.

Hardware and Software sales will eventually be taken over by Sony but, lucky for me, even with the dull 2008 xbox 360 line up...it is still the most appealing to me compared to Sony and Nintendo's lineup

Game on:D

[C_SoL]

Round Table......gonna buy me some right now....

[LoydX-mas]

I know that your excited about the PS3, but it is going to have to outsell the 360 for a long time to actually pass it.

And that does not include WHEN the 360 has another price cut.

[fusionboxer]

the ps3 could outsell the 360 this year alone in overall hardware sales, but possibly in 2009.

I mean this year the ps3 has killzone 2, resistance 2, granturismo prologue, metal gear solid 4, little big planet and much more, while next year holds Final Fantasy 13 and gran turismo 5. Also sales could drastically increase if Blu Ray indeed becomes the single movie format for the next couple of years.

The 360 has less announced exclusives this year with none of them really being huge hitters compared to the ps3's draw, MGS4 (well besides Fable 2 and Splinter Cell). The reason why i don't think Halo Wars and Alan wake will be huge is because at this point i really don't know much about them. The original Halo drew people in with it's smooth FPS controls on a home console. Converting all the FPS maniacs to loving RTS' might be difficult. Sure the name might sell alot, but who knows. Alan wake is kind of a mystery to me at this point. The screen shots looked amazing, but it's really up in the air. The other thing is that Epic could release gears of war 2 and that would be a huge deal considering the success of the original in terms of software AND hardware sales.

On the other hand I Personally don't think MS needs to try to grab the casual gamer anymore. Sure most of it's install base is casual at this point, but what they should do is expand on Live and improve it throughout all of 2008 so that by 2009 it would be the best service around. Forget competing with Nintendo because all it would do is waste time and resources on things that your install base doesn't even want at this point. It's already HUGE so make sure your customers are happy.

PS Home on the other hand will instantly grab casual gamers the moment they see it on commercials or in action. It might attract a bunch of pedophiles, but hopefully Sony has a counter to that. Also Sony and NC soft agree that free to play MMO's are the way of the future and that offers some great potential. Imagine the ps3 becoming the new MMO box for free to play games with micro transactions for other options. It's a great idea and hopefully NC soft does a good job in realizing that (throwing away the pay monthly ideal of WOW).

So what's gonna happen? I think Sony will win out this year, but if MSoft can announce gears 2 and possibly some other past franchises making a return then i could see a tie. Otherwise there's no way the 360 could take 2008 due to the sheer number of releases sony has this year. 2007 was definitely the 360's and i say use 2008 to iron out all the flaws of live and make Online gaming their continued focus.

[Pain]

Aside from Multi-plats it has Nothing.
PS3 will out sell 360, xbots will say other wise but PS3 wil be king in sales and games by end of year FACT.

Say Other wise but your fooling yourSelves, but w/e helps u sleep beter.

[Hydrollex]

Agree or Disagree

My reasons:

PS3 has better feautures

- Devs learned how to work with PS3, now we know PS3 is stronger than 360 ( most latest games run better on PS3 ) especially when Gametrailers confirmed their bullsh!t way to compare 360 vs PS3, I mean the video clips
- Better Line-Up ( Good Exclusives, 360 got nothing compared to PS3 )
- Home
- Blu-ray winning
- 20 unannounced exclusives
- Better FW updates
- more more more more

[MailMan]

I agree with you,Micro$oft have FAILED in the OS market with the abysmal Vista,they've FAILED in the MP3 market with the below AVERAGE Zune,they've FAILED in the Hi-Def market with the now EXTINCT HD DVDead format,they've FAILED in providing a STABLE and RELIABLE Online Network,and they're FAILING in the console war by selling LESS consoles than the DIRECT competitor,that is,the Playstation 3 home entertainment console.

What's that?Robbie Bach has DUMPED even MORE of his Xbox stock?Looks like he's Jumping OUT.

Jump OUT and Play B3YOND

[joydestroy]

yup. PS3 pwns '08

[marinelife9]

LOL @ XBOX 3FixMe!

[Bombomb]

then

" - Blu-ray winning
- 20 unannounced exclusives
- Better FW updates
- more more more more
"

just killed it...who gives a F#$%k about unannounced exclusives..how you get excited about there, I guess more more more goes for every console...

[Legionaire2005]

Perfect Dark 2, Gears of War 2 Killer Instincts 3, Fable 2, Alan Wake, and many yet to be announce games to give Sony a run for their money. It is Sony who is mostly likely going to be in the lead, cause games like Resistance Fall of Man 2(that has 60 players online!!! and 8 players cooperative!!), Killzone 2, Final Fantasy 13, and Metal Gear Solid 4(which is almost done) is going to steal the thunder from Xbox360. Downloadable content for Halo 3 is not enough for 360 in 08. Microsoft need to come up with an idea comparable to the Resistance Fall of Man 2 announcement. You got to admit 60 players online and 8 players cooperative is a big win for Sony!!!

[IntelligentAj]

Feelin that avatar. Great frickin movie.

[Hydrollex]

Not Only video games.

Everyone knows GTA series were PS friends. GTA IV is one of the games that will be the best on PS3.

GTA is a game that needs more Ram and CPU bandwidth. I have a friend who is an engineer. He says PS3 is technicaly stronger than 360.

This is the email I got from him

the ps3 has the NVIDIA-based RSX "Reality Synthesizer" and the 360 ATI-based custom processor, nvidia a little better than ati. The only thing the 360 has its more video ram(512) and the ps3 256. But the ps3 its faster which its good, cause it loads more details and objects faster. Both consoles are great, i own them both, but to tell you the truth the ps3 has better graphics than the 360, some people say no, but thats because theyre comparing the first ps3 games vs the nowadays 360 games. If you go back in time and see those first 360 games and compare em to the first ps3, youll see a big difference in favor of the PS3......just wait a few months and youll see the real PS3 POTENTIAL.......

p.s- thats why the ps3 is going to last for 10 years and the 360 only 5. in five years the tittle will be PS3 VS XBOX 720

Another Engineer

My personal opinion is that the PS3 is the better console.

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My right hand is up and I swear to god those are real emails from computer experts and I didn't change even 1 word. :)

[moses]

The rsx does NOT have 5 years of tech on the 360's GPU, the rsx is just a beefed up G70 with a high floating point power, or so says Sony. Just so people don't start accusing me of false info, even an Nvidia rep said that the rsx was in fact a G70. I've gotten into an argument with a Sony fanboy before about the RSX, and he claimed that it was used in Sony rendering farms to produce realtime movie CGI, and that it could never be maxed by any game. It's ridiculous what some people believe.

[Rice]

360's Ati custom based video card is better than Ps3's RSX i.e Unified shader, 10mb embedded ram etc. But the Cell processor is just a beast in terms of computing power. Dispite its complex architecture, developers are getting a hang of it, look at uncharted, GT stated it is the best looking game out of the 3 console, and it was said that the game only used like 30 percent of the SPE's. Most multiplatform games will look better on the 360 but most Ps3's exclusives like MGS4 and Killzone will surpass the graphical achievements of the 360.

[Legionaire2005]

I do agree that the PS3 has better graphics, but 360 will last 7 years or just as long as the PS3. 360 still has power left under the hood that could still be a challenge for PS3. I own a 360 and a Wii, and I am planning on getting a PS3(Got to get Resistance Fall of Man 2 60 players is just plain awesome man!!)soon.

[InMyOpinion]

The 360 version of GTA IV will have exclusive episodic content. If you're a GTA fan you wouldn't want to miss out on that.

It's funny that you say the PS3 will be better at handling GTA IV since Rockstar's R.A.G.E engine(that it runs on) was designed for the 360. They used it for the first time in Table Tennis to learn how to best make full use of the 360's power.

The game will probably be identical on both consoles, with the exception of added exclusive content for the 360 version.

[jessupj]

"The 360 version of GTA IV will have exclusive episodic content. If you're a GTA fan you wouldn't want to miss out on that."

I'm a GTA fan, but the exclusive content doesn't really interest me. It looks like its just going to be extra missions, which 'episodic content' implies, just extra story line. Besides, it's not like it's gonna be free, M$ will be milking youas much as they can. I'll be getting for the more reliable PS3. I haven't even got a ps3 yet anyway and I'm not that rich atm.

In any case I'm sure we can all agree we can't wait til release :D

[liquidsnake]

Dude, no one really cares about the extra content. First of all, its going to be a couple of more missions...the map wont be bigger or anything. Second, Rockstar have stated that the extra content will be available first AFTER 2009.

[Xemnas]

No.

[WilliamRLBaker]

*whispers* guess what....xemnas was a fruity bastard....and kingdom hearts sux.....

oh and yes:)

[xplosneer]

If I could I would come through your screen and punch you for saying that.

[WilliamRLBaker]

They can if they keep producing great games, and drop the price this summer or this spring by another 50-100 dollars.

Games rule the market leader which is why Wii is winning its cheap and it has a platoria of games being released for it.

[Pandaren00]

platoria isn't a word.
your spelling is flawed, as well as M$'s plan for 2008.

[Xemnas]

What does KindgomHeatrs have anything to do with this post? lol your a bad m$ fanboy you sould of least sed somthing about a ps3 game or somthing lol

[Play B3yond]

The only way the 360 "MIGHT" stand a chance is if they drop the price to $50 and the games to $10

[djroberts]

Actually the video architecture in the 360 is a bit better but the PS3 is easily more powerful overall. The answer to the question in regard to game quality is no. Software sales, yes.

PS3 will catch up in quality titles and possibly hardware but It'll a bit more time for it to catch up in software sales.

[mullet]

They ruled last year because the games that came out for it were being hyped since 05 but this year, not enough BIG games that people actually care about. I know that they do have a lineup but it's nothing compared to Sony's.

[mboojigga]

You do realize with your comments your just repeating the same thing said in 05 about "ohhhh when the PS3 lands it will so own the 360"

Keep watching.

[Hydrollex]

Xbox 360 Ram = PS3 Ram
Xbox 360 GPU > PS3 GPU
Xbox 360 Cell < PS3 Cell
Xbox 360 (Cell+Ram+GPU) < PS3(Cell+Ram+GPU)

I totally agree if PS3 didn't have that cell, 360 was the winner. Todays computers cannot handle 8 SPEs. if PS3 had an 8800 GTX it could easily run Crysis at 60FPS
Those are all truth.

[ktchong]

and in the last generation, Xbox was more powerful than PS3. All that power didn't do jack for Xbox.

It call comes down to exclusives.

Game consoles live and die by their exclusives. It's the strong Xbox 360 exclusives in 2007 that hammered PS3.

But 2007 is in the past. And at the moment, the 2008 exclusive line-up for Xbox 360 doesn't look so great, and Microsoft's hush-hush attitude is only making things worse - it's only creating more uncertainty and doubt about what they'll be able to offer in 2008.

[bootsielon]

PS3 GPU > 360 GPU in controlled scenarios
360 GPU > PS3 GPU in dynamic scenarios, since it's more flexible due to its architecture

However, the Cell does graphics too unlike the Xenon CPU. The cell can do a ton of tasks at the same time including graphics, so wherever the RSX needs help, the Cell aids and therefore RSX gets used only in its strengths if programmed efficiently. Same goes for the RAM. That's the beauty of console development; you don't really need an easy architecture, since in the end all of your machines are equal and therefore you can take the time to optimize your games.

[Ju]

^^ well said. Some games use vertex reductions thru the CELL, which leads to lower vertex processing by the RSX (its weak spot). Seems the effect is, that even if less efficient vertex shaders, the cell can optimize the vertex data which results in better visuals (example UC). The stronghold of the 360s gpu is its EDram which save enormous bandwidth for special ops (AA). But this seems to be addressed on later PS3 titles already (no significant difference any more, possible again compensated thru the CELL).

My personal opinion is, we'll see. Currently my impression is, the PS3 lineup is simply much better. However, those games are targeting hardcore gamers, mostly. We'll see who has the broader portfolio - and who can come up with non-gaming content for their resp. machine (e.g. XBLs download service, but what if PS3 would introduce Skype thru PS-Eye later this year?, PlayTV in the US in 2009 ? Video and Music download thru PSN ?)

[Genuine]

I will be greatly suprised if anyone thinks the ps3 has a chance after GDC and E3. I think that MS has some wonderful things under lock and key.

[heyheyhey]

so does sony- some of their studios still haven't announced their games, but all the M$ internal studios have- i doubt the 360 has more than 1 or 2 unannounced exclusives at the moment, while the ps3 has something like 8 or 9 unannounced (remember david jaffe's new studio is making 3 ps3 exclusives and they haven't been announced yet- so that 3 already, also team ICO haven't announced theirs yet)

Seriously man don't believe BS like "MGS killers" and stuff like that- and don't be so ignorant to think that M$ could possibly have more unannounced exclusives than sony given that they have only 20% of the amount of studios that sony has and their 3rd party support is wavering (ubisoft, crytek, rockstar, square-enix and more are making ps3 exclusives and epic stated that they prefer the ps3)

[HCS]

Just like the last two years, xbox 360 is the BEST GAME CONSOLE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, and just because SONY finnaly makes some great games doesn't take away that fact.

and microsoft will still be making more money then everybody else, regardless if there position drops one.

They really have nothing to worry about, show us at e3 and gdc your pulling even more uppercuts to combat sony and nobody will doubt you at all.

I dont think The positions are going to change any time soon. SOny will be #3, microsoft will be #2 and nintendo will still be #1 more then likely.

[DARKKNIGHT]

correction:

360 is the longest in the market, providing owners with plenty of software(2 years worth). all around good console which developers should push to do more(if possible).

wii is a novelty. novelties wear off. dont get me wrong, some games are fun on the wii.........but what happens when you wanna play a real game?

Ps3 was s#itted on, by many gamers, news sources, blogs, competitors, even developers. The system which was destined to fail by MAAaAAny a "expert", msnbc affiliate, 360gamer is now in its second year.

this year will be remembered as the year the format war ended and the console war ended.

[Play B3yond]

No,No,No,No sorry youre very wrong...Heres how its goin down

In the end of 08 the wii will be 1st ps3 2nd and 360 3rd

The wii will remain on top for a few years but eventually sony will take over and since the 360 will be dead they will rush out the 720 and the process will repeat.

[power of Green]

IF you feel the PS3 is so great why are in here spamming up this thread like you're scared out of your mind?.

360 will have a great year MSFT's winning 3rd party dev support and bargoning power due to the type of success in the market that drives the industry.

Going to be a great year MSFT will have many high production value games in all sorts of genre's and a price advantage and PS3 will finally have its AAA's and of course all consoles will have their secret unannounced titles.

We need to kill the theories and rumors about the 360 having nothing in 2008 due to the fact MSFT has not marketed and/or boasted future titles for all we know they stopped doing that after Too Human or figured out they sell more software keeping things under wraps.

We know theres plenty of games comming in 2008 from the devs and other sources so what if they're not as hyped or have not been known for 4 or 5 generations(in some cases 7 generations, AAA sequels), so what if MSFT doesn't wan't to talk about them. MSFT's new IP's would be killed by Sony's title's hype by the time they get released anyways by defualt and unfairly(this could factor in why they're being tight liped)

[Expy]

And Sony having 20+ exclusives that aren't announced either should count. Until they are officially declared for 08 then they don't count. Simple as that. So those "unannounced games" you're raving about, forget about them until they are officially announced.

[power of Green]

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I don't know if your lashing out! is suppose to prove a point or not but as far as I'm concerned the 20 exclusives are vaporware made up possibly by Sony fanboys.

Were you trying to render my point moot and validate the the 20 exclusive news as nonfiction?.

[Meus Renaissance]

I read the article. Only a few points I agree with, but most of them I do not. Especially the last paragraph, there is no way to be certain that the Xbox 360 will still have the better multplatform games. And how would it have the better exclusives? That's subjective to the type of gamer but in the majority, Sony's 08 exclusives can't be measured up to.

[mboojigga]

Anyone here would be saying that MS lineup is weak. For one it needs to be clear that the reason we haven't heard fully what is coming for the 360 in 08 is due to the concentration they stated to have for 07 and clearly it worked vs Sony announcing "potential" games in 08-09.

UT3=still not selling and it is timed exclusive.
Uncharted(great game)Exclusive. I remember in 06 how this game was going to push consoles
Rachet and Clank. HMMMMMM another exclusive that just didn't do jack sh*t and was also claiming to push consoles.
Lair. Oh god Lair lol....nuff said

For all the good games coming to the PS3. I have to actually wonder if we would be suprise if MGS4 doesn't sale due too the concept of this system being a movie player first/game system secondary.
The ratio has been pretty clear what the majority uses the PS3 for.

Blu-Ray "Movies" blazed the charts in comparision to only DVD

Blu-Ray "Games" Not 1 system seller for 07(oh my bad lets include motorstorm aspect even though it made it into the millions due too being packaged in the 80gig system)

COD4 best selling game of 07 for ahe system(multiplatform game doing better than all the exclusives combined)

I think I am just going to watch month by month as fanboys come in and say blah blah blah about this is what is going to push consoles.

360 is a game console first and the public has answered that showing the attach rate and the amount of money it brings to developers. For someone to think the PS3 is going to be the lead sku this gen is smoking crack and if the same thing happens this year with the amount of game sales in comparison to the 360 then please put a fork in it for sure about what is the lead sku.

[BLUR111]

The Offset Engine is a complete platform for creating next generation games for the Xbox 360 and PC.

[HCS]

i cant wait to hear you guys being dissapointed, that's what you get for having such high expectations. nothing new.

[Kwijiboe]

Halo wasn't overrated, was it?

[Oilers Fan]

it was a overrated and a lot of people were dissapointed. Thats the thing, people can write down a bunch of lists of future games and such but you guys do realize some of them will not live up to the lofty expectations. People are writing nonsense such as "biggest game of this era" and stuff like that makes no sense. Just a word to the wise, keep your expectations low and you wont end up being dissapointed

[Big Jim]

A lot of Sony's 2008 exclusives are part of really successfull, proven francises. Most of the 360's exclusives are not. Thats the difference. These upcoming PS3 francises have rock solid pedigrees. I own both consoles and the 360 has had a great year this year, but the only games for the 360 that I'm looking forward to next year are Gears of War 2 and Alan Wake. Thats it. Just two games. The PS3 has at least 9 exclusive games I'm looking forward to. Nine. Exclusive.

[mboojigga]

Of course you are waiting on the more exclusives for the PS3. We all have since 2005. DUH!

Oh and for everyone to not be surpsied by this comment.

"don't be shocked about delays on some of these big exclusives"

[tuney41]

I strongly believe that ps3 will catch up to xbox 360 by end of year.

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

to do that the ps3 would have to sell 15-20 million in one year.

[Genuine]

People might as well get the idea of the ps3 catching the 360 in '08 or '09 for that matter, out of their head. The ps3 would have to outsell the 360 by over 600,000 units every month for a year straight.

[ChaosKnight]

I think 2008 will be a great year for both Microsoft and Sony in the software department, and ultimately ensures me that I will be broke at year's end. =P (Plus, I'm betting all three companies will announce even more bit name titles at upcoming events)

[HuntTheWumpus]

Both systems should do great in 08!

[bootsielon]

Only If they drop the Premium to 199, and the Elite to 249, effective immediately.

[Double-Edged]

My 360 collection can kill the any PS3 collection...
even by the end of '08

This is the Year when PS3 really shows off.. I know it can.. especially with proven franchises like MGS4+GT+FF.

[HCS]

are usually the ones that come from underneath the radar.

[akaFullMetal]

both should do good, but i think the ps3 will kill the gap some this year or all it, who knows, that if they do another price drop now that production of the ps3 is only 400 dollars they should be soon.

[DrPirate]

If they rule 08, awesome, Sony's gonna have to step it up in 09, 08 for Sony will be tremendously better then 07, and if it doesn't pay off, they'll have to step up even further the year after.

If they don't, well Microsoft will not take this sitting down. You can be assured Microsoft is going to be spending money on some new IP's or on the acquisition of a major. They'll do something specatular. Remember, after this year, Microsoft doesn't have Halo, and Sony doesn't have Metal Gear to save them.

Both will have to rely on the new IP's they created. PD2, Halo Wars, Infinite Undiscovery, Banjo-Threeie, Alan Wake and Gears 2, versus Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Resistance 2, Final Fantasy XIII, Killzone 2, Infamous, The Getaway, Eight Days, and Heavy Rain.

It's win-win really.

[power of Green]

20 unannounced PS3 exclusives?, I seen the rumor post but did not read it. Anways whats the point of posting it? are you trying to make a point that all those games are comming out in 2008?.

Games take years to develope I wouldn't be surpized if every single platform on the market had that many in development all releasing from now to 3 or 4 years from now lol. What would warrent that?.

" Gametrailers confirmed their bullsh!t "

What does Gametrailers have to do with the scores of other comparison video sources and all the other reviewers?(Frame-rate issues, less color, poor bump mapping and missing texture -not just blurry like in that fake NG-Sigma comparison post with the TV settings made to make the before pic look worse than it actualy would on a PS3 without the at feature turned on) have nothing to do with GT not turning on some PS3 feature. lol

LOL. Trying to shove all the observations of the whole industry on GT saying everything that was said was based on GT video's and everybody made the same misstake even with issues the feature would never effect, do I understand that logic right?.

You may try to debunk these pics but don't make me post the bridge captures that have missing particals in the PS3 version when Gloria slams the beast on the bridge kicking up the snow.

[dachiefsman]

Of course Sony fanboys are going to post that their speculations are false.....

Holy shnikes.....The IGN people are voicing...OPINIONS...not facts...

Don't worry Sony fanboys, I am getting my PS3 for MGS4 unless it comes over to the 360. In my opinion you can never say never right?

[Zhuk]

The Xbox 360 will undoubtedly have its best year ever in 2008, with many incredible AAA exclusives already announced and several unannounced exclusives soon to be unveiled.

With this lineup easily beating the PS3's in quality and sales, the Xbox 360 will top its incredible lineup in 2007 with the greatest lineup in history in 2008.

Another area where the Xbox 360 will continue to destroy the PS3 and Wii is with Xbox Live Arcade, which is the best games service of its kind. With so many great announced and unannounced XBLA titles coming out in 2008 the Xbox 360s lineup will continue to grow in breadth and depth, becoming the system of choice for gamers and consumers everywhere.

I also expect that we will see announcements regarding MGS4 and FFXIII coming to the Xbox 360, which will neutralize any potential system selling status those games had for the PS3.

Let's be honest fandroids, these games are the only things that would make anyone buy a PS3 and they can't wait to bring them to Xbox 360, where the money is, where the install base is, where the hardware and software sales are and most importantly, where the gamers are

[akaFullMetal]

of course mgs4 and ff13 is getting people to buy the ps3, what if the 360 lost halo to ps3, why would people want te 360, so of course people go for systems with their exclusives, thats why people are for 360 or for ps3, and some parents or kids for the wii, ahahahah

[Chad Warden]

Lol everyone look at Zhuk having some wishful thinking for MGS4 and FFXIII to appear on 360. Never gonna happen loser. 360 has nothing special this year. Nothing at all. No system sellers, nothing worth mentioning.

[Expy]

Way to embellish the 360's upcoming year, where almost no footage of any of its 08 titles have even been released to the public as of yet. Announced and Unannounced? You've got to be kidding, anything unannounced counts for nothing until it is announced, so until they are they are 0.

Xbox Live service has been horrendous as of late, haven't you experienced the down service? Quite a shame for such a huge company, then again, not surprising considering their RRoD fiasco.

MGS4, FF13 never going to the XBOX 360, you can dream on. Want to play them? Buy the other console. If you were a real gamer you'd buy the console you want to play the games on for its exclusives. Apparently you aren't a real gamer.... just a lonely fanboy.

[crank]

You,. Zhuk, are seriously the most annoying **** on these boards, even worse than Mesh.

The next time I need a FUC**** walking billboard I will give you a call.

[Zhik]

omg zhuk, your are clearly dreaming... can MGS4 run on XBOX 360? NO! why? because it's physics is to advanced for the poor cooling system in that great piece of junk... can FFXIII be ported to xbox 360? yes why that won't happen: because the gaybox is only selling in USA and the FF franchise has always appealed to japaneese players. It would be profitless to make a gaybox version...

[Partisan]

360 has 06,07

i don't think it can rule 08

[CNIVEK]

IF key titles actually release in '08, rather than continue to slide into obscurity or meet further delays...then yes.

-Alan Wake
-Too Human
-Fable 2
-Gears 2
-Ninja Gaiden 2

Those are the big 5 for MS in '08, and all but Gears 2 are pretty much a lock for this year. There are also some sleeper multiplats that should sell better on the 360, like Fallout 3, UT3, Madden '09, etc. Throw in the sales from GTA4 (which will be = or > the PS3 sales), Splinter Cell: Conviction, and a possible surprise release (I'm still hoping for Project Offset), and the 360 will have an awesome year once again.
As exciting as last year was for gamers, this year should trump that. I'm really hoping the PS3 drops to $300 by this x-mas, so I can finally play a few of it's exclusives I've been keeping an eye on.

[Expy]

Haven't seen much or ANY footage or information about most of those games, and 08 has already started and is beginning to tick away.

[Play B3yond]

Dont even mention ninja gaiden,youll have to be extremely skilled just to get past the tutorial on easy, not even worth renting

[schabeugen04]

you guys are gonna have to accept that ps3 is gonna have a good year. I hear my fellow 360 gamers hyping up the 360 line-up but it it pales in comparison to sony's. You know why? Cause its unproven just like much of sony's 07 line up. (Uncharted, heavenly sword,Lair,Motorstorm and Resistance) now the 360's 08 software line up is in the same boat as sony's 07 line up with fable 2, alan wake, halo wars,too human. Its all unproven for the most part. Ninja Gaiden is the only real stand out proven franchise. Sony's 08 line up is proven and most have a strong pedigree Socom, GT5, MGS4,Resistance, And Killzone 2(its iffy but its not unproven) just face facts guys

[CNIVEK]

Did you really just say KZ2 was a proven franchise??? Killzone was an overhyped, self-proclaimed Halo-killing, FAILURE. If anything, KZ2 has THE MOST to prove, of any game coming out this year.

Fable was a AAA title for the XBOX, and Alan Wake is coming from a dev that only knows how to make AAA titles. And if you think Gears of War...a franchise that launched with sales over 5 million worldwide, ISN'T proven, then you're obviously smoking some funky sh1t. 0_o

LOL...son, I will "jump down your throat" anytime the urge hits me. Got it? Good.

[schabeugen04]

I know killzone has the most to prove thats why i said its iffy but the lore has been established but you're right, it does have alot to prove. And Gears is proven but it hasnt been announced for 08 thats the same reason i left off FFXIII/ VERSUS and GOW 3 so dont try and jump down my throat ever again. Also remendy doesnt always make AAA games max payne 2 wasnt all that great. and Fable one was good but it didnt set the world on fire much so like killzone 1 it has alot to prove

[The Karate Kid]

**************Agree Or Disagree*********************

PS3 outsells 360 consistenly World Wide

PS3 Has Better Software Line-Up In 2008 Then 360

PS3 Has The Better Processor Then 360

PS3 Has A Built In Hard Drive In Every Console Sold

PS3 Online is Free and Will Add Home And In Game XMB to Smoke XBOX Live

PS3 Just Looks Sexier Sitting Next To 360

PS3 Controller Uses Lithum Batteries and Not Duracell Batteries

PS3 Will Have Rumble Controller Back This Year

PS3 Consoles All Comes WIth Built In Wifi Wireless

PS3 Is The Only Console where you can Play Metal Gear Solid 4

PS3 Is The Only Console where you can Play Final Fantasy 13

PS3 Is The Only Console where you can Play Resistance 2

PS3 Is The Only COnsole where you can Play Motorstorm 2

PS3 Is The Only COnsole where you can Play Next Gen Socom

PS3 Is The Only COnsole where you can Play *as* Dark Vader In SC4

PS3 Is The Only Console where you can Play Little Big Planet

PS3 Is The Only Console where you can Play Gran Turismo 5

PS3 Is The Only Console where you Watch Your High Definition Blu-Ray Movies???

At a $299.99 Price Point the PS3 will begint o BLOW away 360 In Sales World Wide...........

Agree Or Disagree

Your still on the 1st PS3 console you purchased a Year Ago ?

360 is not a reliable system and it has a RROD problem?

You know atleast one person who is on there 3rd 360 console?

Including Blu-Ray Inside of every PS3 ensured Blu-Rays Victory over HD-DVD?

PS3 is clearly the winner here! Wouldnt you agree?

[Play B3yond]

Lol i always laugh whenver i go on the 360 hardware forums for fun and more than half of the posts always say "my 4th xbox coming 2morro" or "my 2nd xbox got RRoD" or "Any help on how to prevent RRoD" or "Cant get on XBL" or "Any way to stop my game from freezing every 10 minutes" etc. and when you guys come on the main page you guys act like nothings wrong...lmao

[Double-Edged]

picture it this way...
Gears is the best NEW IP out there in the next gen...

Gears 2 will kill it...

[kingnick]

Gears may be the best selling new IP this gen but it definitely isn't the most critically acclaimed.

[LightningPS3]

please make the PS3 cost the same as the XBOX 360. Both consoles play most of the same games.

The way the market is right now, the competition is brutal since PS3 and 360 are virutally the same thing.

Costing more, PS3 has about the same chance as a one legged man of winning this race.

Price continues to be PS3's handicap.

[liquidsnake]

You have a really good point. Unless Sony shows off good exclusives (wich they have in 08) and by dropping the prices to the level of 360 I don't think it has a chance to come close to xbox this year.

And no I am not a xbox fanboy, in fact I own a Ps3 and I would never dream of buying a xbox since its just a crappy piece of machine.

[Treon]

why do you guys even bother about what other people think?
so if i say that xbox sucks to the core, is it gonna kill you?

and yeah
xbox do suck since all they can do is generate FPS games over and over and over again.

this is entirely my opinion. if you're not happy with it.... well its not my problem.

[IntelligentAj]

It's possible but it would almost certainly need a price cut to do so. I'm getting a 360 for Lost Odyssey and possibly Alan Wake(Hope it's a great game). They have some pretty solid titles coming out in 08. It's certain that the momentum is riding more with the PS3 than the 360.

[ApocalypseShadow]

that needs to change in 2008.starting at GDC.

putting the fact that i like the games and the system more on the sony side,this is their problem:

1)live anywhere doesn't work because microsoft doesn't have a portable like psp that can stream content from 360 to a portable device.even nintendo can stream small games if they wanted that connect WII to DS.the zune is just not good enough.

2)microsoft talked about gamers getting in and making content that can be shared.but it was sony that DELIVERED on that promise.where are the homebrew games that are backed by microsoft for xbox live and XNA?where is the modding?sony lets you change the system and share content.they need to make a bigger push.things like UT3 on ps3 are showing microsoft up.

3)if you're are going to link things like zune and vista,etc,give microsoft points in the box when you purchase said product.give the gamers a reason to put that money down.or,buy vista,get three live arcade games for free.something like that.

4)microsoft picked a format.it was the wrong one.but we know the reason was to slow sony up with bluray.now they need to make amends and get a bluray add on.because gamers who bought the add-on wasted their money.unless,all you're going to do is upscale dvds.but it defeats the purpose of having a high definition player doesn't it?

5)casuals can't see live arcade games if they don't know about it.put the games like uno,chess,monopoly in the box.and make a mouse like controller as a pack-in.make it easy to play like the wiimote.

6)spend not just money,but BIG MONEY getting the real exclusives.not one game in microsoft's arsenal is a FINAL FANTASY.lost odessey will not win any FF/dragonquest gamers.alan wake,halo wars,etc might turn out to be great games.but they don't hold a candle to the worldwide recognition of FF.or the 50 million series selling gran turismo.

7)give casuals more respect.going after the hardcore is fine.they do buy more games.but casuals will help WIN the war.discrediting nintendo and the wii only put egg on microsoft's face win nintendo past them in system sales.who's laughiing now?nintendo.all the way to the bank.and to the hearts and minds of gamers who don't play like us and are confused about "all those buttons."my mother wouldn't play my ps3 if i took it to her house.but i'd bet she would be able to play wii games.

and just on a side note.microsoft was all for people buying wii and 360,even websites popped up and names like wii60 were posted everywhere.then microsoft dumped nintendo and the idea just like they dumped the xbox1.amazing how quick they turned on that idea.

8)be more innovative.everything microsoft has done so far is a response to sony or nintendo.not thinking ahead and leading the way.

remember my classic quote from 2007?

"is microsoft the leader? or the follower claiming to be the leader but is actually sitting in last facing the other way thinking they are first?

they need to act.not REACT.

backpeddling on 1080p,hdmi,larger hard drive,casual gaming,free content like MODS,high def media,motion control,etc,does not look good in the public eye.

it makes them look amateur-ish in my eyes and probably other gamers eyes.if they don't come out swinging as i know sony will do,they will get caught and left behind.

that's as nonfanboyish as i can get.

mag lev...............sony's first nukes have already caused many casualties like hd-dvd,poor zune/360 linkage and fanboys who thought games like resistance couldn't get any better on ps3.(60 player online/8 player co-op play).more nukes are going to hit at GDC.believe it.

[wageslave]

1)live anywhere doesn't work because microsoft doesn't have a portable..

Windows Mobile? Perhaps you've heard of it? The largest smartphone platform on the planet? Oh, and next time Im streaming music from my Windows Media Center over the cellular network to my Pantech Duo Windows Mobile 6 phone, I'll think of you.

2)microsoft talked about gamers getting in and making content that can be shared.
Has Sony actually PATCHED UT3 yet in order to play user-generated Mods? Because it was ACTUALLY SONY who promised and didnt deliver on the create & share. The create & share features DIDNT SHIP.

Can anyone confirm if UT3 has been patched yet for this?

Forza 2 had create & share features. LAST YEAR.
Halo 3 has Forge, create and share. LAST YEAR.

Homebrew XNA games? Here ya go:
http://forums.xna.com/

3)if you're are going to link things like zune and vista,etc,

What the fcuk are you talking about?

4)microsoft picked a format...

Sony has an MPAA and RIAA division. Microsoft does not. MS is not interested in killing DVD in order to geting DRM'ed discs to kill DVD.

MS didnt pick shiat. It put a drive out. Its a great drive, and HD-DVD isnt done yet. Dont believe your own BS pal.

5)casuals can't see live arcade games if they don't know about it.

Have you _seen_ or _heard_ about the Xbox 360 Arcade? Get informed pal.

6)spend not just money,but BIG MONEY getting the real exclusives.

MS is *clearly* picking the best new IP exclusives.

From Metacritic:
Playstation 2: Gran Turismo 4 (2005) 89
Xbox 360: Forza Motorsport 2 (2007) 90

Forza 2 is a TERRIFIC game, oh, and it packs in with the Xbox 360 now. You can keep your GT, thanks.

7)give casuals more respect....

Did you miss XBLA? Did you miss Scene It? MS is going to give Wii a run for its money, they've talked a great deal about targeting Casuals -- dont think for a second they wont.

In short, you're way way way off base.

[R M Spender]

god how much of a loser could you possibly be?!! and dillusional too. go play a game instead of sitting on this site worrying about console wars...

[DJ]

of GameInformer and read up on Resistance 2. If it's anything to judge by, PS3 owners are going to have a great year of gaming to look forward to. As for the 360, it's going to be a pretty small offering. Those select few titles are going to be good, but I really just wish there were more of them.

Gears, Halo Wars, Ninja Gaiden.

[CNIVEK]

You WILL see PLENTY from those games. It's just now the 2nd week of JANUARY, genius. The only reason we've seen so much of PS3's heavy hitters of '08, is because they SHOULD have come out LAST YEAR.

[power of Green]

You praise the PS3 and disslike the 360, got-it.

[LightningPS3]

So what if Microsoft stops supporting 360 once the 720 comes out in like 2 years, and then PS3 still keeps selling a year or more after 720 comes out?

Then PS3 could catch up to 360 probably even pass it, while you are playing XBOX 720.

And then it will be the same thing over and over. Or not? Something has to change.

I think it depends if PS3 starts doing really well, then Sony might keep supporting it, if PS3 doesn't do well this year, who knows. PS4 might be out sooner than we think.

[LightningPS3]

So what if Microsoft stops supporting 360 once the 720 comes out in like 2 years, and then PS3 still keeps selling a year or more after 720 comes out?

Then PS3 could catch up to 360 probably even pass it, while you are playing XBOX 720.

And then it will be the same thing over and over. Or not? Something has to change.

I think it depends if PS3 starts doing really well, then Sony might keep supporting it, if PS3 doesn't do well this year, who knows. PS4 might be out sooner than we think.

[Gish]

I have a PS3, would love to have both a PS3 and Xbox. I care about the games. I wish I had some of the great things of Live (other than the outages). I just cant wait til this turns to a total software based business structure so that it doesnt have to come to the BS flame wars anymore.

Edit: I retract the use of outage. Lack of services would have been a better way of saying it. Once again. I would love those services, so no fanboy talk needed.

[wageslave]

"(other than the outages)."

There has never been an "outage". "outage" implies "down". Never happened.

What *has* happened is some people had intermittent problems. Me? Nope. Anyone I know? Nope.

My nephew setup his new Xbox LIVE account ON DECEMBER 25th. Not a single issue.

Some people had issues, yes, but it wasnt remotely as big a deal as the PS3 fanboys wish it were.

[nomad117]

Well I see sony having a great year this year. I mean a lot of people are holding out on PS3 till MGS4 comes out. I know people who are going to get a PS3 so they can play killzone 2 when it comes out. So to cut it short a lot of great sony exclusives this year that WILL sell a lot of PS3.

[Xbox is the BEST]

It will

[ApocalypseShadow]

1)can you stream movies to windows mobile from 360?zune?no dummy.

2)can you stream games from xbox 360 to windows mobile or zune?probably not dummy.

3)name the biggest mods that came from microsoft?trading paint for cars in forza is fine.but can you create a track in forza2 and have gamers play it?can you modify the game engine in forza2 and put an in car view like ut3 does third person as we all have seen at gamersyde?no dummy.can you change halo to only play in third person instead of first person?probably not dum.....well..... you know.i'll stop calling you dummy.

4)microsoft put out an hd-dvd add-on player.that in itself,is support for a format dummy.d@mn!i broke my promise of not calling you...what's that....oh!dummy!

5)how many grandpas,grandmas,mothers,sist ers,etc are buying 360 arcade bundles to jump online to play xbox live arcade?if there were a lot of them,we would have seen sales jump for the arcade bundle.and as for scene it.it released.no one cared.it is forgotten.moving on........

6)microsoft corted the hardcore gamer.i don't have a problem with that.but there are more casual gamers out there.if you market to the hardcore.you will hit a limit on who you sell games to.casuals don't give a f#ck about halo or first person shooters or mature games.which do you think sold more:scene it or mario galaxy?wii fit or mass effect?

and they don't like controllers that they can't understand like us.we can pick up a controller and just play.can your grandmother do that?that's why wii is kicking microsoft's @ss.

you really are new to this aren't you?and you back a competitor that has gone back on everything they bagged sony for.you complain on drm and all that other bullsh!t.but you don't have a problem with dvd being the standard format at the moment do you?thought so.

while sony is delivering on:

free online play
mods
changing your system with whatever hard drive or OS you want
bluetooth
1080p
next gen format that can be used for games
remote play that has never been done before
next gen games
bigger downloadable content
motion control
not having to buy batteries or rechargeable batteries
divx built in
BC for 2 generations (ps1/ps2)

i could keep going.but then,you would just look more stupid.

get some sleep and try again in the morning.it was worth responding by PWNING you on everything i posted.

mag lev..........................

[kingnick]

Most "1080p PS3 games" aren't even 1080p native, if we're going to use such lose terms to describe 1080p might as well chuck in every 360 game that is upscaled to 1080p.

Next gen is a matter of contention.

Backwards compatible PS3s are on death row, once the other SKUs sell out only the non-compatible 40GB SKU will be left, even the 360's pathetic software BC is better than nothing.

All round a lot of consoles will be sold by the big 3 and none of them will die out like the fanbois are hoping.

[Xbox is the BEST]

funnies sh1t I read in awhile.
Mag Lev why your post always f*cking long?

[karlostomy]

Dude... you are seriously clutching at straws.
Your last post is a textbook fanboy rant.

For every little ps3 advantage you mention, i could find ten other 360 advantages. What's the point?

Just quit it. You are sounding desperate.

Please reply if you want more friendly advice

---------------
edit: @40

aaaargh.... another fanboy rant...

[ApocalypseShadow]

as a leader,you make proper decisions.sony only reacted on what really mattered to gamers:price.

microsoft bagged sony for everything.but then turned around and tried to add everything sony stood for.that shows microsoft is a follower.and not a leader.talking about making motion control like nintendo is reacting.instead of actind by being more innovative.

example.microsoft makes a camera(vision).but it is nowhere near what PSEYE can do.microsoft jumped the gun without thinking just like they did by buying cheap parts for 360.and the result:RROD.

they claim they don't support any format.but make an HD-DVD player with their name on it.it's failing.they should have waited to see who won,then release an add-on.but 360 gamers now have wasted money on a dying format.

these aren't fanboy rants.it's FACTS.and everyone knows it.some just choose to take the wrong pill.and that's okay.but in the end,they will have ps3s in their possession in the future.

i base this on sony's chess moves since GDC of 2007.and microsoft's reaction.sony has not reacted to anything microsoft has done.they are taking their own path.

but,you'll see.GDC 2008 will show you all soon enough.

mag lev...................

[redmamoth]

... put it better myself!! I was considering buying a 360, once they get the hardware issue sorted (RROD, Noise Levels), but now i don't think i'll even bother! PS3 will totally own 2008 in every single way, my prediction is that Microsoft will announce a new console by the end of 2008 or 2009...

[felidae]

Micro what?

xbox 360??

[Thepro318]

i don't think 360 can stay with sony they come out with so many games year after year more exclusives and more exclusives just like PS2 lol 360 hang in there by 2010 their be coming out with a new xbox proably 720 microsoft know they not going to stay with 360 long term i know microsoft this happen 3 years ago microsoft dump orignal xbox and went with 360 and stop making orignal xbox games i love how history repeats it self

[xg-ei8ht]

And thats the only reason why i like sony, They do their own thing. Always have done, always will do.

First thing is, both have 512mb ram. PS3'S O/S uses slightly more.

Its also true the 360 has more pixel pipelines, but the trouble is, they are simple pipelines, and are slow compared to rsx.

The Rsx is much quicker pixel wise.

If you want to talk geometry, then cell owns all, nothing touches it, not even quadcore. Already Proven.

So basically, you have two systems.

360 system has:

1)A $50 a year online service.(not alot but its still money)
2)Hardware that does break,Whether you like it or not, its fact.
3)Hardware addons, that are not worthit.
4)easy to program with, quicker games come to market. It has halo,Gears,bioshock. But how long for? Bioshock will be coming to ps3 in late 08/early 09.

PS3 Has:

1)Free psn network, although not as complete as xblive,soon to be home
2)A blu-ray player that basically rocks, and has been tested by many movie sites.And recieved aa ratings.
3)Has alot of options, soundwise,pictures,transfers,m ovies,addons,connect to psp. And much much more.
4)Although just getting started, the latest generation of multiplatform games, are looking and running well.
5)Many exclusives, not to be missed. GT5,MGS4,MOTORSTORM1,2,LBP,UNC HARTED1,2,3,RFOM,RROM,And many many more.

I might sound like a fanboy, but i've played bioshock,gears on a 360, and while i think gears was ahead of its time. I still think uncharted is better looking.

For me, if you want a future proof console, thats gonna last and improve time and time again, you have no option but to buy a PS3.

[Madbrain]

Crap cannot rule...

[Nitrogen]

while ps3 is picking up steam, 360 is slowly losing it

[kingnick]

The PS3's 08 line-up has more potential so unless Sony and their supporting devs drop the ball I can't see MS walking away with the most critically acclaimed first party games this year.

[prowiew]

Zhuk should make a blog or something. It should be a good laugh to read his blog. Im a fan.

[DuneBuggy]

I dont even see the Wii as direct competition for the 360 or PS3 myself. As for whats left? I dont see the PS3 passing up the 360 this year.The exclusives are great,but every multi platform release probably benefits the 360 more.

[mcgrawgamer]

It's funny how sony fanboys are touting the ps3's power when last gen they were saying the same thing xbox fanboys were saying it's all about the games. "Can xbox 360 rule '08" the title screams fanboy war and you fan flamers are giving them exactly what they want. The 360 will be fine in 2008,2009, on until the next console comes out in 2011. I really don't see what the big deal is. Xbox fanboys accept the fact that ps3 is gonna sell well deal with it! Sony fanboys accept the fact that Xbox 360 is not goin anywhere, especially with a 6.9 software attach rate. Deal with it.

[CrazzyMan]

but not in sales.

There is no way someone will pick x360 over ps3 in 2008 after mgs4, ffxiii, gt5, kz2, r2, lbp, gow3 will be released. Even price difefrenece in 50-100$ won`t really help.

I think, x360 will drop price to 299$ before GTA4 released, ps3 in summer on in fall, also to 299$, maybe 349$. PS3 offer more, then x360, that`s why theoretically must cost more. BUT if it wil lcost on pair with x360, then there is nothing what will help x360.

[pshizle]

360 will be flying off the shelves

[cmrbe]

tough for the x360 this year. There is no question that the x360 will have alot of great games this year that will appeal to the x360 fanbase but PS3 however will have a much better year relative to the x360. The reason i say this is because of the returning heavy hitters arriving this year for that PS3 that the bulk of last gen installbase (PS2 fans) want to play.MS is doing a great job software wise this gen but they need to market the x360 to all gamers if it wants to Succeed long term.What i mean by this is that MS need to keep pumping out games for hardcore AS WELL AS for the casuals in equal amount with equal attention. In this way it will keep the x360 core market happy as well as boarding the x360 market ensuring them success in the long run. Also another reason why i say this is because i believe that the Hardcore market is mostly accounted for this gen sofar as Hardcore are generally the early adopters so MS really needs to diversify the x360 game libary. X360 will still have a good year especially for the x360 fans but i highly doubt it can rule 2008 because of the PS3 game lineup this year.

[Xbox is the BEST]

It will Dominate

[heyheyhey]

your name being "Xbox is the BEST" and you convinced that it will dominate

nothing out of the ordinary- just more M$ lab rats, brainwashed with special implants

[mintaro]

the 360 cannot beat the ps3 in 08, while the 360 game are good, the ps3's are better, they have a lot of anticipated games coming out for the ps3, and while i do not think the ps3 will outsell the360 this year, it will defenitley close the gap. 09 will be the time to strike

[MadMax]

I love my PS3 but if Sony doesnt start releasing some games already its gonna be over for them. They have had more than enough time so i dont see what the hell the problem is here. The Wii is even starting to kick out some great games, the future lineup of games alsolook interesting. The only thing that Sony has in there future lineup is Metal Gear and thats it? lol. I have 2 games for my PS3, Uncharted and Motorstorm and both are excellent. Uncharted is incredible, prolly one of the best games on all the systems. They need more games like that to win, or else its over. If you want a great lineup of games then i would have to go with the 360 even though i hate MS. At least Sony has the online thing for free which is a major plus. For fun and entertainment i would go with the Wii. Ive had mine since day one and have had no problems with it and its great for parties, everyone loves it and can just pick it up and start playing. Im still waiting on Sony to start kicking out some more games like Uncharted.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

08 will be just like 07, nothing will change and the droids will still be crying.

Wii
1st in console
2nd in games
3rd in online
1st in new ideas

360
1st in games
1st in online
2nd in console
tied with new ideas

PS3
3rd in games
2nd in online
3rd in consoles
tied with new ideas

[AngryTypingGuy]

As far as gaming quality, yes. I think the 360 will rule '08 just as it did '07. Although this year, the PS3 will be up to par with the 360 as far as game releases.

As far as attach rate goes, I see the 360 once again beating the PS3. The most passionate gamers seem to have chosen the 360.

As far as hardware goes, I see the PS3 outselling the 360, at least for the first half of '08. If Gears of War 2 comes out in the fall, the 360 might have a chance to win the Christmas season.

[Wurider]

If they can drop GOW2 this year it will be huge for the 360. We don't know about Killzone 2, we don't know if the install base is high enough for MGS4 to sell well, Haze is a question mark. Whether you like it or not Gears of War is a bonafide blockbuster. With only one game of a possible trilogy it has planted itself up there with Halo. This fact can't be denied whether you like it or not. I have both systems and am not a fanboy but the truth is the truth. Gears of War is the trump card.

[TwissT]

Really 2008 will be the year of the ps3 but I do not think it will pass the 360, due to the fact that the 360 has to sell 0 consoles. But the fact is that 2008 is the set up and 2009 will be the spike, but all I know is, that I am gonna be broke lol.

[zonetrooper5]

Neither MS or Nintendo have really annouced many exclusives for this year unlike Sony who want to use most of their big hitters for this year. I can't wait for MGS4, Killzone 2, LBP and Resistance 2 on my PS3 this year but at the same time I want Banjo Kazooie 3, Halo Wars and Alan Wake. MS nor Nintendo will lay down and let Sony walk over them, that is just stupid to think of it and remember that MS annouced it plans to spend more money for advertising this year about $200 million more I think it was.

I think that MS should release Gears of War 2 in 2009 and let most of the new IP's and sqeuels do the talking this year. Anyways, I'm gonna be enjoying PC gaming, PS3 and 360 gaming.

[Iron Man 2]

Short answer:NO!

Simply because the PS3's lineup is TOO strong,a few good examples would be MGS4,Killzone 2 and LBP.What does the Xbox 360 have,Huxley?Lost Oddysey?Viva Pinata?LMFAO!XD

[MadMax]

Man, you are just in total denial arent you. A true fan that cannot except reality, what a loser.

[PSWe60]

X-Box has already lost a lot of steam in Europe, it never even had a chance in Japan. A console cannot win the war with only one market (U.S.) '08 is Sony's year, X-Box's lead won't mean a thing come this time next year. Just like the HD-DVD and Vista, X-Box will go down hard. We're already seeing it.

[Says you]

the console that actually works or the one that breaks alot I think we know who has first party support then any game division so while you XBox 360 fans agree with each other with such none sense that your precious broken down system is going to have a great year which you guy's have obviously have not yet read about Resistance 2 what doe's microfony offer that the other company hasn't yet? and Gears of War 2 probably wont offer things anything new to the table except for graphics.

[cr33ping_death]

not with systems breaking down........ well my 360 just crapped out on me got little dots going across a black screen folks....... gonna cost me 99$ to repair..... this is B.S, dont know wether to send it un or just sell all my stuff i have for it.....halo 3 gears cod 4 guitar hero games/ guitars, rock band gear. funny thing though is that it f@cks up one month after warranty....aint that a b!tch

[MadMax]

Do not send it in, i am on my 3rd one and just went out and purchased a 360 brand new, took out the new console only outta the new box and swapped it out with the old broken one. Be careful how you open the seal on the box, take it back with the receipt and get a refund. The next person that buys the one you took back will be screwed, but thats ok cuz they will just take it back and say it doesnt work. It just worked for me and i swapped my 2006 core system for a new core with hdmi. They didnt even know, f@ck yea. Do not do it at gamestop because they open the box and usually check the date and serial. Worked for me and as long as you dont swap anything else outta that box other than the console itself then it shouldnt be a problem. It will be Microsofts problem and they frikin deserve it for selling so many faulty systems. Screw em!

[ZackMorris915]

NO, It Will Not Rule 08

[OOG FunK]

I personally think the only thing that could help the 360 outsell the ps3 for 08 would have to be a price drop to a price that will appeal to all people...say keeping all systems except the elite in the 200-300 range...with only the elite being in the 300+ range

[BestGamerAlive]

and will continue 2 do so we the best

[undacovabrothe]

Sony is known worldwide. There are countries who don't care or hear about all the propaganda that both sides throw around. All they know is that the ps2 was a really good system and now the ps3 is out. Its not the fact that this system does that anymore its if the Sony can drop price enough for average consumer to go and buy 1. Sony has a market of over 120 millions consumers I doubt that 110 million of them just disappeared.

[Legionaire2005]

That is high yeah!!! I never had so much degree in my news before.

[DaEnforcer]

LOL what a joke, it should be "Can Xbox 360 Survive '08"

[smashballs]

A: Who cares? What, even if Microsoft goes bankrupt within the year, what, is that supposed to influence your choice on what console to buy? Or will you just not buy stock in them? This is news for mainly arsehoes who don't play, let alone enjoy video games.