Bungie: Well, that just happened…

Bungie wrote: "So, yeah. While we’re not ready to show you what we’ve been working on, we can reconfirm that we are hard at work on our new universe. We can’t wait for you to see it."

[princeofthabay]

More timed exclusive BS.

[OmegaSlayer]

Releasing the first chapter of a story as an exclusive kills the future of the game on the other console.
Timed exclusivity might save the day.

[sack_boi]

So now we have rumors that Rare, Lionhead, Epic, Crytek, Turn 10, and Bungie are working on next-gen Xbox games.

[extermin8or]

@sack_boi:
yeah but we already know some not bound by contrace are planning to go multiplatform not stay exclusive whereas ALL the sony 1st party devs of which there are many HAVE to stay ps3 exclusive because sony own them (well they could make crossplatform games but only if sony said so and why would they?) Anyway I shall base my purchase on the pricing, value for money, the specs of the machine and if it's future proof and then any CONFIRMED exclusive games :P

[nevercloser07]

@ Sack_boi

I don't understand... shouldn't we expect video game development companies to be working on games for the next video game consoles?

That's like saying - man, next year's PCs look really good because Adobe, Google, etc are rumored to be working on stuff for them.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Or they could just release it at the same time..

[JellyJelly]

@extermin8or - Defensive much? Jeez...

[ilikestuff]

kinda dumb, bungie could double their fan base, a lot of ps3'ers are going to be jagged about this. only way i buy a game delayed for money is if it has a lot of extra content.... or if its amazing. or ill just buy it used to stick it to them

[GraveLord]

How about a simultaneous release?
Timed-exclusive isn't saving anything. In fact, it alienates a huge part of the PS3 core gaming community.

Double the platforms = Double the hype = Double the sales

[EVILDEAD360]

Hopefully they will pull back the curtain at E3..

I'm a huge Bungie fan

Bungie has spent a decade on the Xbox and know the Xbox 360 better than any developer out there.

It'll be interesting to see what they pull off this late in the 360s cycle.

I love how Bungie didn't make a big deal about the reveal.

Evil

[MaxXAttaxX]

So that's either a smart move or dumb.

[EVILDEAD360]

'They did it to not compete with all the other PS3 Exclusives coming out'

LOL..name one exclusive Bungie has EVER been scared of..especially this gen.

Sony got some cool games that we all speculate will come out..but a Bungie shooter being scared of 'Last of Us' or even 'Last Guardian' not gonna happen. Completely different lanes. Bungie owns MP..Xbox Live was perfect for them to reconvene where they left off post Halo..

Evil

[Jazz4108]

Let me guess the game isn't releasing on your system of choice or you would sing a diffrent tune. I hope ms does this with a lot of 3rd party games next gen and make the competiton wait as the comments on here are priceless. It could be sonys studios vs the 3rd party studios on the 720 that put content on ms system first. Its not a bad idea and ms has the cash to do it where sony barely can keep there doors open.

[OmegaSlayer]

Man, third party studios just hurt theirselves with exclusives, especially if they want to build an IP.
Third parties have the best selling franchises (GTA, COD, AC) and cost lots to develope.

I prefer to share a game with another console (or 2) even having the worse developed version, than seeing a studio shut down or in troubles.

[GameOn]

Depends on the quality of thw game look at mass effect and demon souls.

[pandaboy]

Microsoft are just extremely apt at running a business. From a gamers perspective Sony are the better company, but microsoft are just brutal in their tactics for winning the gaming market. They could really crush the playstation4 next gen with third party exclusivity combined with their own gimmicks that will also win over the casual market.

[extermin8or]

@pandaboy yeah they did that this time around and the only place that it's paid of in terms of market share is the usa? :S Ironically nintendo have a larger portion than both sony and MS :p

[P_Bomb]

Sony has no issues keeping their *videogame* door open though, Jazz. It's among their more successful lines.

It's why they can afford 15+ studios and exclusive 3rd party support this gen' from the likes of EA (DeadSpace,Dante's,MOH,NFS ,SSX) Valve (Portal2), Ubisoft (SC/PoP HD, AC), 2K Games (BioShock Infinite), Warners (MortalKombat), Rocksteady (Arkham Asylum), Rockstar (LA Noire) plus a new handheld.

3rd party exclusivity as a whole has been waning and will continue to do so. With all the console exclusive 3rd party series MS lost this gen (Saints Row, BioShock, Metro, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Mass Effect, FarCry, AceCombat, StarOcean, GTA DLC etc) and lost Arcade exclusives like CastleCrashers, Limbo and Braid...there's no trends indicating MS will suddenly pull a 180 and monopolise anything other than apps.

[Edward75]

@P_bomb ...

They can afford to keep all those studios but can't afford to keep their own employees. Sony isn't just a gaming company like many of us like to think.

[P_Bomb]

@Edward75

Neither is MS, which makes the initial dig a bit unnecessary. Microsoft started its own 5000 person layoff in 2009 http://www.slashgear.com/mi... and more recently cut another 200 people in February http://www.huffingtonpost.c... .

The focus should be gaming divisions here, not the failures of Zunes and Vaios. *shrugs*

[badz149]

"It could be sonys studios vs the 3rd party studios on the 720"

that's just SAD! what makes you think that 3rd parties will start making games exclusively for MS? Bungie has a history with MS and AV is sleeping in bed together with MS over CoD thus it makes sense that they will make some exclusive deal with MS but that's all about it! hoping for EA, Ubisoft, Capcom, Square Enix, Take 2, KONAMI, Namco Bandai, Disney etc to make the same move is just pure naive when no other games have sold as much as CoD and alienating the Sony crowd will only hurt themselves!

[NCAzrael]

@Jazz4108

It's so nice when gamers can come together in support of one another in times like this. Wouldn't it be a dick move for some asshole to rub something like this in the face of someone who doesn't prefer the console the game is being released on first? 'Cause we're all gamers, right? And we are all entitled to our opinion about what we play games on, right? Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that competition breeds better products. Or that wishing for one company to fail, thus forcing all of its paying customers to have to spend even more money on someone else's product, is the mark of a true asshole.

By the way, all of that up there, total sarcasm. 3rd party exclusives are bullshit, and anyone who supports them should question why they consider themselves gamers.

[prettyboy12]

dude first off u couldnt be more wrong,if anything ms is down in there game division yet again by 200 mill.where as sony is a whole company that pretty much splits there income whether it be tvs labtops hell there movie production.so how bout getting some facts before assuming or is that why u only have 1 bubble?!

[dark-hollow]

trust me if this game succeed activision will start their milking machines.

[WitWolfy]

Dude its not a matter of "if" its a matter of when... Remember this is Bungie we're talking about here....

[RockmanII7]

The contract states a new game every other year (2013/2015/2017/2019) and an expansion the year after the game releases (2014/2016/2018/2020). So if you count an expansion as a game, Bungie will be making a new game every year for 8 years.

[Sevir]

sells 5 million in the first six months on the market and scores 90 or above on game rankings online if not the bonus and the publishing deal for 10 years is void!

[STONEY4]

It's also expected to be an MMO. I don't know how Activision expects an exclusive MMO to sell more than 5 million in 6 months. Most multiplatform games don't even sell that much, and MMOs don't tend to do well on consoles. The only saving grace is that it's developed by Bungie.

[Muffins1223]

Gta was timed....

[IRetrouk]

No, just the dlc, and look how that turned out.

[NAGNEWS]

game is called Tiger and its multiplat game

[IaMs12]

Well if sony wants to combat the timed exclusiveness of the games they can release the PS4 around the time the time exclusive contracts are up. Kind of like what happened this gen.

[aceitman]

confused , microsoft let them go . then bungie does an exclusive game for ms. doesnt make sense . to me its just dumb.

[SixZeroFour]

MS didnt let them go, Bungie wanted independance from MS and MS gave it to them...Bungie have stated that there is no ill will towards MS, they just wanted more options

[gatormatt80]

OK. So I can't say for sure what I'll do when this game comes out because its at least a year out.. But if they alienate the ps3 and release this game a year after it arrives on the 360, then I won't purchase it if I don't own a 360.

The contract clearly states that the ps3 version can not exceed the 360 version, even with the ps3 version being released a year later!!

What that tells me is that the ps3 version will be dated tech since it will be the exact same game only released a year later. If that's the case bungie should just stay with MS.

[MiamiACR21]

If any of you don't own both consoles by now, then you have no room to bitch and complain about timed exclusivity. You don't need to make 700k a year to afford both of them, especially by now for gods sake.

[gatormatt80]

I own a 360, but play mostly on my ps3. Im just still trying to justify keeping it.

[MAJ0R]

I bet the people at Activision and Bungie are super pissed now, especially since it was suppose to come out in 2013.

They probably wanted to reveal it a lot later to create hype for the game, now that opportunity is lost.

[Megaton]

They were probably just going to reveal it at Microsoft's E3 briefing next month.

[m23]

Its really because of Activision that all this info came about. Its because of their case with Infinity Ward that they need to show this contract in court.

[Zeeraq]

I bet Microsoft was saving this game for their exclusive reveal in E3 2012.

[PirateThom]

Probably... but, the game isn't even the interesting part. The interesting part is the ridiculous contract Activision have Bungie held to and the fact Bungie agreed to it.

[DarkBlood]

what about the 4 pack dlc thing thats gotta be even worse

[Zeeraq]

Its sad to see Activision doing these types of contract, The Game must sell 5 million plus or they'll drop it? WHT

I think its Activision who comes up with Timed Exclusive games to sell more on 360 first, after that they'll cash in PS3 gamers.

[Disccordia]

Well as much as its easy to blame Activision I bet most AAA third party contracts are similar. We just don't normally get to see them. And like PT says.. Bungie agreed to it.

[humbleopinion]

What!? This contract is sheer briliance from Bungie side: Most importantly they retain the IP, they get all the funds they need, the get a bonus if the games gets a good score and they get a good share of the profits from each game and expansion while not risking their own money.
This contract is a dream contract for a developer (assuming you can deliver)! The whole reason is was exposed in court was because ex-IW heads wanted to show the jury how much more generous the Bungie contract is then the deal they had with activision. If the games will sell as good as Halo (and considering they're multiplat they have a chance to sell even better), bungie's share of the profits will net them hundreds of millions if not billions.

[MYSTERIO360]

It seems like Bungies new came is going to go the same path call of duty series has been treading

[Nimblest-Assassin]

Like I said before... Bungie just made a deal with the devil

[Hufandpuf]

Talk about bad timing lol

[DarkBlood]

as the pink panther guy says

*juustice is served*

[Oldman100]

Hey Activision, whatcha gonna do?

[Megaton]

Make billions of dollars?

[m23]

Whatcha gonna do?

[Alos88]

I guess you could say it was bad luck, but I think Bungie saw it as Destiny.

[MYSTERIO360]

good one lol

[majiebeast]

Before the game is even released it looks milked already. Goodjob bungie you went from a lesser evil(M$) to the prime evil (activsion) not buying. Hope this bombs so badly.

[Hufandpuf]

Having planned sequels are how franchises are made. If it does bomb in the first installment they would stop production, simple as that. Did you think Mass Effect was planned as a single game at first? No. It was set up to be a trilogy.

[Agent_hitman]

LOL Activision and MS are joining up and silently destroying ps3 lol..

[IRetrouk]

Yeah, because it's worked so far hasn't it /s

[PR_FROM_OHIO]

Still won't work! Lol is this the best Microsoft can do timed exclusives LMAO!!!!!

[BlackTar187]

DK,

Your account is not even old enough to make a statement like that tbh.

You have no idea you're just assuming.

U assumed in every line of your post. You need to work on that assume everything leaves you with nothing but your ____ in your hand and hungry.

[mananimal]

let me guess, its SINGLE PLAYER aspect is gonna require you to be connected ONLINE all the time just to play it, DRM style, no thank you if thats the case.

[RockmanII7]

No, this isn't a PC game.

[P_Bomb]

Oblivion DLC for the 360 and FinalFight:Dbl Impact for the PS3 were already DRM locked, requiring an online connection.

[RockmanII7]

You and me both know mananimal is (rightfully) upset about the whole Diablo 3/Error 37 situation. Also you need an online connection to download double impact from PSN and to download the Oblivion DLC from XBLA so since you've already connected to the internet before it's not far fetched to think you have internet. With disc based games, it's not guaranteed that you are hooked up to the internet and such a company will never require you to be connected.

[mananimal]

Doesnt need to be, Xbox live in its self is abit of DRM-Lite, so Im assuming, as this is for sure a NEXT GEN Game from Bungie, the ol Micro-NAZI(soft) is gonna go full blown DRM with there AAA titles, even with the SINGLE PLAYER aspects, greedy corporate pricks can kick rocks, I aint nobodies bitch, NOPE.

[kingdavid]

Bungie? More like Bung-eye amirite?

[OllieBoy]

I'm rooting hard for this to fail. Screw Activision.

[neutralgamer19]

And bs like this is why i wont buy it (one less customer) and ill make sure my buddies dont buy this bs either.

Didnt buy mw3 for activisions shady crap and did not regret it one bit, so i wouldnt think twice on this one. Little by little ppl open their etea and dont support this and yes makes for less sales.

Too many great ps3 games to even buy into this bs.

[Halochampian]

This has been known ever since Bungie left Microsoft. They said that microsoft had first dibs on their games, that they weren't going to completely abandon their fanbase.

Also, they probably need more time with the PS3 version just because they have a separate smaller team working on it. Whereas, most of the Bungie crew is VERY familiar with the xbox architecture.

Don't go blaming a great dev just because your precious hardware is going to be a tad late to the party.

I have all 3 gaming consoles and nice gaming rig. I could care less about which one it comes on first because I either get it there or the better version.

[neutralgamer19]

First of all your name says it all!! So stop being butthurt because i wont be buying this game.

"Also they probably need more time...." You talk as if this is fact. You work with Bungie? I know you dont so dont make an a$$ of yourself assuming the reason.

"Great dev" in your opinion buddy i could care less about a bungie game and you may rhink thier great, but i dont.

"I have all 3 gaming consoles" Wippty doo good for you. Im 33 and have a good paying job and can buy any console i wish when i want but i choose not too.

I would never buy an xbox after they knowingly sold faulty hardware to consumers knowing it would Rrod shortly after the warranty and costing consumers millions. You may be a glutton and think that was a great strategy by micro. But that was a blatant disrespect to consumers and im not stupid to support that.

The wii i didnt buy for myself (my 5 year old has one) and dont play because no games interest me. I see it as a kids consoles and most games define it as such.

Listen dude do me a favor defend your idols all you want, but dont tell me not to blame them or activision for this time exclusice bs i dont support. They agreed to contract and will suffer one less sale.

For the record as i mentioned i own a ps3 and vita because i choose and if i ever decide on a whim to buy another console i can because i got it like that i just dont support things that have nothing to offer me or shady practices. You get it now "Halochampion"

[Halochampian]

I highly doubt you're 33 from your response that screams "I'm a teenage boy with raging hormones who need to call people idiots"

I dont work for bungie but I did speak to them last year when I ran into a few devs at E3 last year.

You sound so butthurt. Let me guess, you support rockstar games back when they made GTA timed exclusive? It's ok for Sony to do it but god-forbid the evil corporation of MS does it.

And I went through more PS2's than I have Xbox 360's. But guess what, I didnt have to pay for my 360 to be fixed. know what sony said to me about my PS2's? "We will fix it for XXX amount"

And wii being a child's console baffles me. Sure its my least played gaming console but it does have some of best games released this generation. Maybe you just didnt play games back in the golden years to understand that. "You get it now?!"

[Brosy]

@ notsoneutralgamer19
Dont worry about it, you won't probably get a chance to buy it anyway. Ps3 can't run on the same level as the 360 in 95% of multiplats. They don't need you or your ps3 buddies sales. neutralgamer my ass.

[Doletskaya]

You are 33? I can find teenagers who sound and act more maturely than you do, and I feel bad for your kid. Whether the timed exclusive deal is for technical issues, business or a little bit of both, it has nothing to do with the how good the game will be and should affect your decision of buying it or not. Besides, what is the big deal of it anyway? PS3 owners can just get it later.

[ChunkyLover53]

Even though people don't like it, its obvious that Microsoft has learned a couple of things this generation.

1.Make multiplatform titles seem like they are exclusives and get exclusive content so those games sell better on your console.

2.Exclusives seem to only matter at the beginning stages of a new console cycle, once you grab the early core adopters, you can successfully have them co-exist with other types of gamers.

I think its pretty clear what Microsoft's strategy is going to be going into next generation. At least from the looks of things, with all the companies working on next gen stuff for the 720, it looks like Microsoft is going hardcore after the hardcore gamer.

[dead_eye]

Microsoft's strategy always seemed a bit smash and grab to me. The total lack of support for the xbox when the 360 came out put me off them.

[P_Bomb]

"Exclusives seem to only matter at the beginning stages of a new console cycle..."

So why the hype behind Halo 4 this year? Why Gears of War 3 last year? Good IPs are always relevant. God of War 2 still came out for PS2 even though the PS3 had launched 6 months earlier.

[ChunkyLover53]

The core adopters are going to buy these consoles early on based on the exclusives. I did it, I know a lot of people who did the same thing. I saw Gears of War in 2005 running on an Xbox 360 and so I had to have one. I waited a bit on the PS3 before buying it, I saw MGS4 and I bought one.

At this point, I'm already sold. Microsoft is throwing those core adopters a bone with these types of games, Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, Alan Wake ect... It keeps people relatively happy, while Microsoft can rake in the more family friendly and casual money for Kinect and those types of things.

I am not saying exclusives are totally irrelevant, I am just saying that they are clearly most important at the start of a console generation because people are still deciding which console to buy first. Most people can only afford one at launch.

If you look at what hampered the PS3 at launch, it was price and lack of games. So Sony using resources on PS2 games could have stunted early adoptions a bit with the PS3, even though I loved God Of War 2.

[P_Bomb]

Fair enough. Same reasons I waited tbh.

[Yomaster]

Activision and Bungie don't even belong in the same sentence...

Looking forward to seeing what Bungie's been working on.

NOT looking forward to the Activision hype-train milking-machine dollar-snatching.

[NinjaSky]

Okay the game MAY come to PS3. So basically if the game is a big hit Microsoft would be probably do what ever it takes to keep it as an exclusive. If not then it will go multiplatform

[NinjaSky]

That's y they say may. it's gonna go like this.
Hmm the game was a massive success on the xbox. Well Activision we got a deal Destiny will now become one of our IP franchises. then it never goes to the PS3
Im on Microsoft side on this 1 they need something new

[extermin8or]

Look when the next consoles are released I should be at uni, so what I buy will be carefully considered and if the ps4 is backwards compatible that will be a BIG push towards me buying it, however to me this makes me think that maybe the PS4 won't actually be out by fall 2013 at least not world wide yet clearly the next xbox will or was supposed to be because let's be honest Activision are quite greedy and can you really see them cutting out a possible instal base for which if it's a game out around launch when it usually takes a year or 2 to build up a library and a large % of any console owners are likely to buy it purely because there aren't usually many AAA games around.... Because I can't see them doing that unless the ps4 was only launched in japan/not at all and if the game were xbox eclusive on only the 1st game that makes it likely that future sales will be damaged for the sequels on the other platform.

[shackdaddy]

Wow. A year timed exclusive? And they are only porting it?

No thanks. I rather spend my money on other games...

[DeletedAcc]

Same here ^^

[Sidewinder-]

Through boldness to the stars...

Hope the game creates a sense of wonder and discovery, like Homeworld did.

Hope it's a good game that doesn't pander too much to casuals with mainstream qualities.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

People really wanna say Timed exclusive is BS and it doesn't help anything. Well go all the way back to 2008 when Rockstar announce Timed exclusive maps for the Xbox, yeah, that was huge. It put the Xbox on the map it gives consoles publicity and awareness. The rumors of Bungie showing up at the PlayStation press conference can (sorta) put to rest, which makes sense because its Bungie former owner of MS. So timed exclusive does just that, temporary locks out content to the competitor. What if R* tied a deal with Sony to to get Timed exclusive maps to PlayStation? I know you guys would be happy as hell, and suddenly timed exclusivity wouldn't be so "BAD".

[KMCROC54]

Isn't Sony getting Agent as exclusive from R*.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

The "exclusivity" is still in the air, apparently. So we don't no for sure.

[Crazay]

After boring myself to tears, its almost seems to me that Destiny Game#1 could well launch as a platform title for the 720 alongside the 360 version. Meaning that 2013 would be the release of that system? It's going to be an extremely interesting 6-12 months for us gamers I think.

[GodHandDee]

Horrible move. This is just going to alienate future potential buyers. Similar to Mass Effect series.

[NicSage]

Pass. I am a ps3 player if they do not need my money same day as it is released on any other platform then they will not need it later... Fact.

Timed exclusive/ exclusive is still exclusive if it does not include the ps3 at launch it becomes forgotten.

Will I bring down the industry? No. Will they care about one person? No. Does it make me happy I stick to my core values and beliefs? Yes.

Never bought into the mass effect hype and look how crappy the game ended up...glad I passed on that purchase.

[KMCROC54]

So what are your thoughts on the Agent exclusive from R* for Sony which seem a bit similar.

[dragonyght]

So what of it. There plenty of third party exclusive this gen. Nikrel already this clear in this post

[KMCROC]

Dragonyght yes he made his poit clear, but still did no answer how he feels about Sony getting an exclusive from R*. Who happens to be third party like you have stated also. Cause what getting is feeling that its OK for Sony but bad for everyone else or unfair.

[dragonyght]

@ AGENT was announce ps3 exclusive from the start no other platform was announce nor yeah delay which why he is against. Its two totally different subject.

[NicSage]

Honestly I think Agent looked like a pass, no offense to anyone but wasn't something I was looking for in a game.

Exclusivity does not mean Perfection by any means.

Now on that note, I'm not sure how other people feel but i'm sure other consoles players are/would be pissed off about this, and that is fine they should be. It is a 3rd party exclusive timed or not. Back to my original post on this.

Now if it is a first party studio from Sony obviously it will be exclusive and if other console players would like to partake of the experience then they should pick up that console same goes for Microsoft/Nintendo. I pass on a lot of titles I would love to play but they are on another console, I live with it.

Back to my original post about third party devs giving exclusive/timed exclusive game & or content.

I think DICE was a bunch of BS giving ps3 players content a week early, stupid. I am a PS3 only guy also.

Few devs I am passing on or strongly contemplating on are: EA, Activision, Bethesda.

I'm sure my list will grow and it will.

Keep the exclusive/timed exclusive things of the past move on if someone wants something exclusive then make the game for that console.

I wish the devs/pubs would stop shafting players and I wish players would start shafting the dev/pubs

[Omega Zues]

Pass as well.

Hard for me to be excited for something that will be pushed out the door every other year with good old dlc in between.

Nothing like milking the gamers right.

[Funky Town_TX]

3 years ago 80% of n4g.com was Bungie haters, but now you care.

[Mac420]

^^^ Def with you on this one. I hate Activision with a passion an refuse to buy any of there games. When a company continues to release hundreds of titles on the same boring, bland engine there games get old fast. Look at the Black Ops 2 trailer, The engine looks very dated, do they update or care no, cause chumps will buy it no matter what. Bungie signed a deal with Nazi's of the gaming industry. An the guy that said Bungie had no ill will with Microsoft, Your just too gullible,They said they felt like MS pushed them to produce games an didn't have the freedom or time like they once did with MS. So they go to Activision ( Makes no sense cause there the biggest cash hogs this industry has ever seen) this entire ordeal is just a joke an the only thing that will come from all of this. Is another 10 sShitty titles rushed an pushed on the shelf only difference is there produced by Bungie instead of IW or Treyarch. Swear I hate em but they have pure marketing genius working over there.