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Big buzz in format fight: Blu-ray move could affect Xbox 360, PS3 rivalry

Seattle Post-Intelligencer
January 7, 2008
By Todd Bishop

Las Vegas - One of Microsoft's key technological positions has taken a blow as a result of Warner's decision to choose Blu-ray in the battle over next-generation DVD formats.

The implications extend beyond movies to the hotly contested video-game console market. That's because Sony has integrated a Blu-ray drive into the PlayStation 3.

Depending on the circumstances, Sony may enjoy a "huge competitive advantage" over Microsoft in the video-game console market if Blu-ray becomes standard, said Michael Pachter, an analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities.

The key question, Pachter said, would be timing.

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Filanime03 - 717 days 16 hours ago

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Oh the Irony the next Xbox would carry blu-ray capability on its next platform. Microsoft has to pay royalty to sony and other blu-ray supporters in order to implement blu-ray on their next gen console. Even the next gen Wii will have to implement blu-ray on their console if blu-ray will win. It's a win-win for sony.

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1.1 TANOD | 717 days 16 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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The Round Peg - 717 days 15 hours ago

1.2 - Yes, much like the irony that...

Sony has to pay a loyalty to Microsoft every time Sony sells a computer or laptop installed with Windows.

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Filanime03 - 717 days 15 hours ago

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U are definitely right round peg the irony of business. Only money talks.

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Bathyj - 717 days 12 hours ago

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Thats right Round Peg, and obviously Sony have no problem with that. Why dont M$ stop being cry babies and do whats right for everyone. Dump HD and support BR. They're all about establishing standards that everyone can use and they're right. We wouldnt want a hundred different OS's and we dont want multiple HD movie formats. If M$ had supportted BR from the start there wouldn't have been a war. I dont know if that would be completely good because the war does serve a purpose in driving prices down, but its done its job now and its hurting the industry overall and its time to stop. The sooner everyone gets on BR the better for them and us.

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1.5 WilliamRLBaker | 717 days 10 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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craymoogy - 717 days 8 hours ago

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Which ever side Java chooses, that side win. It's simple.

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actas123 - 717 days 7 hours ago

1.7 - @WilliamRLBaker

Why would they release a console in dual format if one of the format is practically dead.. Because u know if they do that u and I and the rest of us gamers are gonna pay for that eventually..

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LightningPS3 - 717 days 15 hours ago

2 - wont make a difference

XBOX 360 will continue to kick ass. Because it's the better gaming machine at a better price.

Sony just keeps on embarresing themselves.

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Skaterboy Tell Em - 717 days 15 hours ago

2.1 - alice ellis

You are absolutly correct sony comes out with a completely relieable console with blu ray built in plus wifi hard drives,quiet system, free online,blutooth and highly anticipated games coming 2008 and beyond.what are sony thinking by doing this,they just keep embarressing themselves.they should have rushed their console out so they couldnt get thier @ss kicked by the competition,why make online free. charging for it would be better,more money in there pockets are better than money in mine,id much rather have a console with overhyped/overrated POS games rather than AAA titles like MGS4. Man sony you are pathetic.

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lodossrage - 717 days 14 hours ago

2.2 - ssj04, thats how you tell it like it is

Bubble up for ya!

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2.3 TANOD | 717 days 14 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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The_Engineer - 717 days 13 hours ago

2.4 - oh dear

it really makes me weep for humanity when I see people like this spouting such utter nonsense.

embarrassing IS a 33% RROD rate for your console.

embarrassing is said console's sales in japan

embarrassing is seeing the "ultimate" obliterated by the bomb Warner dropped a few days ago.

should I keep going??

Sony is positioning all it's pieces and getting ready to annihilate MS and it's 360. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence and vision of where this industry is going can see it. Only blind 12 yr old xbots not only don't see it but in fact are already proclaiming victory. It has actually been funny to watch some of the most diehard xbots on here already starting to lose composure and blurt out expletives in threads like the one talking about Warner choosing Bluray.

as the Ps3 surges this year with what will be the greatest release lineup in gaming history, expect to see alot more weeping and gnashing of xbot teeth.

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AngryHippo - 717 days 12 hours ago

2.5 - i agree with your comment to a certain extent......

.....but i think 360 will continue to sell really well, but PS3 sales will be equally good. Whether or PS3 catches up this year i strongly doubt it but i think 2009 it will be all square in console sales, anyway its about the games, games sell consoles, whichever console gets their AAA titles out this year will be the one that gets the better sales this year. Sony has a great list of exclusives, but whether they all make it this year is another matter. Happy gaming for all during this year, its going to be a good one for everybody whatever console you own.

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mighty_douche - 717 days 14 hours ago

4 - M$..

...we're screw from day one for releasing a half assed rushed console, sure it was great for 18 months or so but thats about it. No HDD, No HD format, No wifi, No freebies, No rechargable controllers, No web browser....

Basically they upgraded a GPU and CPU and figured thats enough.

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mighty_douche - 717 days 13 hours ago

4.2 - Shaka

nice to see a 360 owner looking at it from an unbiased opinion, ill happily admit that for games, up till this point the 360 has a FAR FAR better line up of games.
But unfortunalty for them all their top titles end up making they're way to the PC. For me, the 360's disadvantages far out way its advantages.

But each to their own, if your happy with your 360 then great, isnt that the important thing anyway, what YOU think, not what OTHERS think?

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power of Green - 717 days 14 hours ago

5 - Won't make a difference.

And sure in the hell won't help Sony win the console war when DVD folks are already fucing up Sony demographic helping them sell some consoles but no software.

I mean Sony already had some supposed AAA's that were boast about by Sony fanboys and they do not buy them what makes you think the PS3 fanbase is going to buy games now other than those 3 pr 4 games everybody seems to be saying warrents the PS3 purchase sence before the PS3 launched.

IS that the only reason to own the PS3? is that the only thing that can save it is thoses 3 or 4 titles thats been known even before the first Playstation launched.

How can a console win when the only thing people are excited about are a handful of sequels and not the promise of new greatness like the 360 appeal?.

PS3 will surge when those sequels come out maybe! then what?, it took 120 million PS2 owners to sell 4 million copies and less of some of those games. What makes you think consoles will be flying off the shelfs as Sony fanboys believe?.

This whats going to happen Every PS3 killer App released MSFT will have an awnser to and only Sony fanboy hype will continue despite reality.

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Perkel - 717 days 13 hours ago

5.1 - PFF

people will buy ps3 for mgs,ff and GT. That is fact.
Halo sold in milions because it has great advertising campaign.

I bought ps3 only for GT5... but i'm playin' CoD , motorstorm resistance etc.

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actas123 - 717 days 6 hours ago

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Its wrong to believe in the myth that people buy consoles only because of games.. Brand name recognition and reliability are very important for the everyday consumer... When it comes to games, the PS brans proved to be the console for the whole family not just first person shooter teenage fans..

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power of Green - 717 days 13 hours ago

6 - Perkel

I see you're one of the gamers helping Sony sell software despite the low software sales.

Sony needs more gamers like you, why aren't others doing what you're doing on a larger scale PS3 devs are hurting the biggest selling games are ones that were bundled with the PS3.

Halo sells because it has became a icon and its replay value is priceless.

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mighty_douche - 717 days 13 hours ago

6.1 - your messed up^^

i buy the games/software I want, i dont buy things out of support for a company. I personally dont give a f*ck about Sony.

You act as if this is like a partnership between us and them, its not, Sony/M$/Nintendo, none of them give a sh!t about you, only your wallet.

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Gabe323 - 717 days 13 hours ago

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This crap is silly.

Who cares who has to pay who what?

If MS HAD to use Blu-ray for their next console they would pay the BDA.

Blu-ray movies (some) still use Microsoft's VC-1, Micrsoft gets paid by Blu-ray associated companies.

Just because HD-DVD will likely lose the High Def media battle doesn't mean it's going to disappear in day. What if MS still uses it in their next console? There will be 50GB HD-DVD discs available and maybe even bigger capacity.

What if Microsoft uses a combo drive in the next Xbox but only uses 50GB(or larger) HD-DVD discs for its games and blu-ray for movie capabilities?

I don't think HD-DVD for things beyond high def media is going to vanish from the face of the planet any time soon.

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AAACE5 - 717 days 13 hours ago

8 - Sony fanboys are sure funny!!!

OK, so let's say sony wins the dvd battle!

With consoles it won't really matter, cause as long as games for the 360 and Ps3 look and play the same... the Blu-ray format shows no advantage, especially if games keep turning out better on the 360 instead of the Ps3!

You sony fanboys have a closed mind, and only see what you want to see. True, MS may have Blu-ray in their next console! MS even hinted at the possibility of that around the launch of the 360, cause it's just a format. It's not like MS owns the HD-dvd format. It's just that Toshiba needed a way to get it's format noticed, so they decided to partner with MS. If MS really felt strongly about the HD-dvd format... it would have been installed in the 360 in the first place!

Also, if sony does win this battle, then they have more battles to deal with in the future. Have you heard of HVD? Those are disc that hold something like 300 Gb of data! And there are other formats in the works as well, so don't think if Blu-ray beats HD-dvd, then blu-ray is safe for the next few years... cause that could change really quickly!
MS might choose to go with one of those formats in the future instead of Blu-ray.

I don't really care about the format war really, cause games for both consoles pretty much look and play the same. I'm bored with movies, cause there aren't any really great movies worth owning. I will not buy Blu-ray or HD-dvd to buy movies that I already had. Hollywood has ran out of ideas, and most movies released are garbage that they release just to release a movie.

That's why I really don't have any interest in this war. But everytime I come here there is something about..."The HD format War!!!"...OOOOooohhhh!... ..whatever!

All movie studios should just go to Blu-ray and get this over with cause i'm tired of hearing about it... Or HD-dvd, it doesn't matter!

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AAACE5 - 717 days 13 hours ago

9 - You want truth...

MS really wants to abandon this entire format thing, and only do downloads. Where all of your games will be downloaded to a HDD!

Look at the signs! You can down load full xbox 1 games to your HDD right now!

I wouldn't rule it out, that for the next xbox, we will get a 1 terabyte HDD, and all games will be downloaded from marketplace!

But I think that will only happen if MS has enough subscribers to live!

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actas123 - 717 days 6 hours ago

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Thats exactly what big and filthy corporations want you to do. The downloading service is way more profitable for them and its way less convenient for us the consumers... imagine that u can only download games... then your friend can't borrow the game that you just finished from u, he also has to buy and download it... this will also kill the rental services like gamefly, netflix and even blockbuster if movies become only download..

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xg-ei8ht - 717 days 13 hours ago

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But thats the point, the 360 no longer has an advantage over ,multiplatform games.

Most of the newer multiplatform games are looking the same now.

What this next gen is going to come down to is this.

Exclusives that people care about.

Price for what your getting.

What your console is capable of despite gaming.

On the subject of sales.

Alot of ps3 games are selling really well.

POG

Jump back out.

and then play beyond!

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The_Engineer - 717 days 13 hours ago

10.1 - exactly

COD4 is already at a million and half copies sold and counting on the PS3, for a console with half the user base of the 360, that is actually pretty impressive.

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Gabe323 - 717 days 12 hours ago

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You're right that next gen is going to be all about price and exclusives.

Besides CPU/RAM/Graphics systems the next gen Sony and MS consoles will probably share all the other hardware capabilities and likely media capabilities. There isn't much that Sony didn't include on the PS3 that Microsoft won't forget to put into the next Xbox.

Microsoft has problems but they're only on their second gen system and every new customer will be counted on picking up the next Xbox especially in Japan and the EU.

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sajj316 - 717 days 12 hours ago

11 - stop thinking from a hardcore pov

The point is that Sony and Blue Ray are associated words. You wonder why they packaged a Blue Ray movie in the 40 GB model. The PS3 has been marked more than stand alone players and that's why 3 of my consultants (at work) picked up a PS3 in the last week or so. They wanted it primarily as a Blue Ray until I opened their eyes from the gaming and network aspects.

Blue Ray was ALWAYS the Trojan horse.

A lot of you guys keep pointing to the software attach rate. I think these attach rates are no longer relevant. Systems today, like the PS3 are no longer just a game system. In fact, I think its very possible that the PS3 in its lifetime will outsell the PS2 for the simple fact that its also a good Blue Ray player with good wifi network capabilities and huge potential on the Playstation network. As long as X units are sold to cover Y expenses and yield Z profit, who cares what the attach rate is. Who says software isn't selling on the PS3. Its selling in direct proportion to the 360. How is that bad considering the install base. Assassins Creed and COD4 proves this point. UT3 will also sell over a million primarily due to the mod scene (not released in Europe or Asia yet).

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Alvadr - 717 days 11 hours ago

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Nintendo took a gamble with the Wii's motion controls and WON!

Sony took a gamble with Bluray and WON!

Microsoft seems to take no risks so they now may just fade into the background by the end of 2008.

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Jamegohanssj5 - 717 days 11 hours ago

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Every thread on N4G requires someones biased opinion, but I wish some people would just shut the heck up.

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TripleTags - 717 days 9 hours ago

14 - duh

i can just see kaz and jack sitting in a conf room going i told you so.

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