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[Rumor Mill] - Xbox360 with built in HD-DVD player built in coming next year

Proelite from Neogaf is reporting that he has been told by his Local Gamestop store that Microsoft will introduced a brand new SKU with a built in HD-DVD next year.

Microsoft has already told gamers that they have no plans of supporting blu-ray and to prove their point, they recently dropped the price of the HD-DVD add on for the Xbox 360 which saw 1000% boost on Amazon.com since the price dropped.

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Lord Anubis - 869 days 14 hours ago

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Hopefully this time around they support HDMI 1.3a and allow for Dolby's True HD or DTS HD Master. It would be too much to ask them for uncompressed LPMC and perhaps tasking for the X360. If none of those are included on the SKU it would be worthless to those that want to enjoy the HD DVD movies.

Ah, also support for "true color" or as it is called x.v.color. The PlayStation 3 supports them all, it was disheartening to hear the Elite supported none.

ITR

hey lad. X.v.Color will be available in the latest televisions. Its supported on the new Sony receivers, Televisions and camcorders.It is a Standard in High Defintion. Simply because there aren't that many televisions and other devices with support for the standard in the market right now it doesn't mean it should be excluded. Other wise Microsoft would continue to make the same mistakes.

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ITR - 869 days 13 hours ago

1.1 -

x.v. color isn't a issue unless your tv supports it.
So unless you own a new Sony or Mitsubishi you probably don't have it.
I sold a Bravia and a MITS that supported x.v color today.

If you want to see colors go check out the new Super Clear Panel 52" Samsung's.
The image is so clear and defined the actors look almost 3D from the background.

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Maddens Raiders - 869 days 13 hours ago

1.2 - ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -

-- "x.v. color isn't a issue unless your tv supports it.
So unless you own a new Sony or Mitsubishi you probably don't have it.
I sold a Bravia and a MITS that supported x.v color today." --

My Mitsu and Bravia do...and the colors and pictures on these sets look SPECTACULAR.
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[Rumor Mill] XBox launches next sku in 2Q 2008. CodeNamed: PlayStation3X o_O

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1.3 nasim | 869 days 11 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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Eclipticus - 869 days 10 hours ago

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first, the only ones saying officially that blu-ray won the format war is the sony/blur-ray camp. so thats doenst really mean anything.
HD is going strong in Europe. and picking up momentum in US.
US isnt the only market in the world.
second, for all you that say HD is the inferior format... let me remind you or let you young ones know, that VHS was the inferior format.

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1.5 MADGameR | 869 days 7 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show

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MJY2K - 869 days 3 hours ago

1.6 - At Eclipticus

VHS wasn't totally inferior to Betamax. Betamax looked better but VHS could record for longer, that's one of the reasons why it won in the end.

The quality difference between Blu-ray and HD DVD isn't really massive but Blu-ray disks have a greater capacity which could help the format win when Blu-ray recorders become available and the consumers know that it has a greater capacity.

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Vertius - 869 days 3 hours ago

1.7 - @Eclipticus

I don't know where all this false information about HD-DVD doing well in Europe came from, but, I can tell you, as an EU citizen, that HD-DVD has no such foothold in the European Union. There is but one company that sell HD-DVDs in Ireland, and they have a much larger Blu-Ray selection. The only country where there is any question of Blu-Ray superiority is the U.S., and it's gaining ground with every day.

I do agree with one thing you said, however, and that is that the U.S. isn't the only market in the world. You'll find that most people ignore that logic, a'la the Xbox 360.

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gta_cb - 867 days 14 hours ago

1.8 - "he has been told by his Local Gamestop store"

... haha, they know nothing, infact we are more likely to know from this website and when we know they still wont know. they dont get told hardly anything.

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the greatest - 869 days 14 hours ago

2 - so you have 2 buy another 360

how many time are they going 2
try 2 sell people the same console
mircosoft are sharks

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andapaul88 - 869 days 13 hours ago

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no u don't if that was to happen they wouldn't make their new games hd dvd discs only cus then they would lose their 10million consumers that already bought the old system in turn it would lead them to selling less games which leads them to losing more money so wat u said makes no sense

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Lord Anubis - 869 days 13 hours ago

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How dare you! you obviously never bought a windows operating system.
Lets see, there's the home edition, there's the professional edition, and there's the Business edition. I feel like I'm missing one....

Just kidding you lad.

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Panthers - 869 days 13 hours ago

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Xbots should be used to it by now. First elite model, then the Halo version, now HDMI on the Premium, later they will have ones with cooler chips. Then the HDDVD combo. Did I miss any?

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Ri0tSquad - 869 days 13 hours ago

2.4 - hahahahaha

The guys at Sony must be laughing there asses of watching M$ make all these useless SKUs. I hope its not true.

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Omegasyde - 869 days 12 hours ago

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Its fake, MS wouldn't take that big of a Risk going with a doomed format. HDDVD is on its last string... It won't last past 2007. 2008 Q2 no blue ray add-on, but you will be able to d/l every new movie for a cost through XBL.

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reaferfore20 - 869 days 14 hours ago

3 - So,

Whats wrong with having a game be on more than one DVD? I don't own a Xbox or anything but I don't think it would be that big of a deal to play a game with more than one disc..(Final Fantasy VIII anyone?)

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DrPirate - 869 days 13 hours ago

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Stop using Playstation 1 games as an example.

It's the bloody past.

People found it annoying then, they find it annoying now.

Don't you dare give me that "Sony Fans" are lazy rebuttal, newsflash: Getting up in the middle of a game, taking 1 minute to change a disk IS NOT exercise. It's just bloody annoying.

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Rockstar - 869 days 13 hours ago

3.2 - @ DrPirate

Amen to that!

The big issue is also the level of immersion.
Getting up to change a disc will take you out of the game and a big part of "Next Gen" hardware/software is immersion.

Anything that takes you out of the game/experience are those things that the devs are trying to eliminate.

I.E. Changing a disc 2 or 3 times or getting rid of the HUD on a FPS...
Anything to improve the experience and totally immerse you in the game.

Bubble for you sir.

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Omegasyde - 869 days 12 hours ago

3.3 - reaf

So I missplace or scratch a disk , would be fudged? Granted multi disc ain't bad for RPG's, but a FPS? THat reminds of that one game for the ps1 where the Boss fight was the on the last CD...What was it again?

O yea its was against Sepiroth. 1 boss battle + a FMV on 1 cd? Imagine doing a whole level of Halo4 on 1 dvd... It would be repetive and I would probally lose a cd and waste 10 minutes of time getting it. It would take me out of the mood of playing the game as well.

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DeadIIIRed - 869 days 9 hours ago

3.4 - I'm only speculating...

But wouldn't the increased amount of DVD disks end up costing the publisher some more money. That and who would want to change a disk in a game like (I'm only using this game as an example. Don't assume that I believe that this game will actually be like this for the 360 or PS3) Grand Theft Auto going from one side to the other?

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reaferfore20 - 869 days 4 hours ago

3.5 - What about tha hdd?

If you had one disc to install on the hdd and another disc to use while you play would that be so horrible? And on ff7 there was a whole lotta stuff you could do on disc three instead of fighting the bosses. Anyone ever breed a golden chocobo? I didn't but my gameshark sure as hell did :D

Oh wait... I forgot about the core. That sucks. What a dumb idea.

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sak500 - 869 days 4 hours ago

3.6 - @ROCK

"The big issue is also the level of immersion.
Getting up to change a disc will take you out of the game and a big part of "Next Gen" hardware/software is immersion"

I'd rather get up and change the disc than not have rumble in my controller.

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TriggerHappy - 869 days 14 hours ago

4 - TNS

you are rerporting the story as a forum post ..what is this ? http://www.n4g.com/industry... ..and who helped it get on the FP ?

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TnS - 869 days 13 hours ago

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"You can also link to forum posts if the post is made by a developer or other industry professionals."
http://www.n4g.com/Info/Pos...

And we know that NoUseMerc is from PSU.

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Omegasyde - 869 days 12 hours ago

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Merc, this guy is a "no name", just like you and me. So if I post on Neogaf and show a photoshopped picture of bioshock on the ps3...

Would you post that as news?

Exactly TnS for the win, sorry Merc.

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andapaul88 - 869 days 13 hours ago

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encore ladies and gentlemen encore..... see u got some attention so fvck off

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Loudninja - 869 days 13 hours ago

6 - Please. this will not happen

I just will not

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toughNAME - 869 days 13 hours ago

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i dont like being forced into a format

fu(k this

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GodofPeace - 869 days 13 hours ago

8 - Highly doubt it will be HD-DVD games

Because MICrosoft will be leaving 11 million 360 owners in the dust if they create HD-DVD games because they aren't cheap and makeing 11 million buy a HD-DVD drive won't get a good response from the consumers. Also HD-DVD is going to die eventually. No point of putting a dead product inside a system and charging more.

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Bathyj - 869 days 13 hours ago

8.1 -

Read yor posts back carefully and listen to what it sounds like.

They already left 20 Million Xbox owners in the dust when they completely abandoned them to move on to X360. That didn;t get a very good response either, but apparently if you ignore someone long enough and jinggle your keys in front of them they will forget about it eventually.

As for putting a Dead format into a console, they did put DVD into 360. No DVD is by no means dead, but is by no means Next Gen either. Why not, they put a next gen cpu, next gen gpu, all the other bells and whistles and then settle on a storage medium that PS2 was already filling up.

If they do this, (and I'm not saying they will, its only rumour) then it will be SKU after SKU after SKU, each one shafting the guys that came before it (ME) and it will only be a matter of time before some dev wants to put a game on there. It wont happen you say, but lets see if these HD required stickers turn up. Even that is already hampering devs just for the sake of having the Core system. The Premium, Elite ,whatever the HDMI Premium is called, the Falcon, and now the new Ultra-Mega-SuperBox all suffer because of the core.
M$ has really lost direction.

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Fisher339 - 869 days 11 hours ago

8.2 - 8.1 Very True

I still waiting on M$ to stop changing the sku's before I buy my 360.

1st was the elite
2nd the smaller chips
3rd the new xboxs with HDMI.
This rumor is going to make me wait just a little longer.

I want to get one, but not if a better one is just going to come out a year later. These aren't pc's after all.

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xhi4 - 869 days 13 hours ago

9 - I swear.....

if they do this im going to shoot somebody. I geuss then they can compete with the ps3 in the long term. But what about the rest of the xbox 360 owners...all 9 million of us? What will happen to us? Microsoft u @G(*SHJKSD! Core, Premium, Elite, Ultimum , Halo version WTFFFFFFFF Its just like vista and all its versions. Damn i hate microsoft so much now. My 3rd xbox 360....broken down so many times WTFF IS GOIN ON WIT EM! GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRR

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medziarz - 869 days 12 hours ago

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if so than just drop the 3shitty and buy a PS3 - by that time all the mulitplatform games are gonna be there and u won't be missing anything except some crappy too human and alan wake and sprinter cell :P

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reaferfore20 - 869 days 4 hours ago

9.2 - and

Don't forget about mass effect and bioshock, those games look awesome.

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Bathyj - 869 days 13 hours ago

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Surely not. Sweet 8lb baby Jesus, surely not.

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EZCheez - 869 days 13 hours ago

10.1 - I like to picture him

as an interprative skater

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MK_Red - 869 days 13 hours ago

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If MS really releases a 360 with built in HD-DVD, the format wars could become WWIII.

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Ri0tSquad - 869 days 13 hours ago

11.1 - yeah

I was thinking the same thing.

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zslash - 869 days 13 hours ago

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Read the thread over at NeoGAF... this was just a joke.

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Deafman420 - 869 days 13 hours ago

13 - Aww Shiat...

if true, its about time. Been holding off completely on buying another 360. Was thinking of gettin a PS3 just for blu ray...Most of the games on Ps3 aren't my cup of tea and I ditched my old Ps2 for the original xbox cuz their controller was simply too uncomfortable after playing it an hour and xbox had LIVE. But if this is true, HD DVD built into a 360, man im soooo sold on it.

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thewhoopimen - 869 days 7 hours ago

13.1 - Aww Shiat...

If you buy the Xbox 360 HDMI SKU than I get to laugh at you and all the Xbox360 fanbois who made fun of me getting ripped off on Sony's console price. That's right, who's really getting ripped off now?

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ASSASSYN 36o - 869 days 13 hours ago

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Please...please hit the spell check. It is free and easy to do. You will see that your english teacher that graded you poorly was right. But, you can still redeem yourself. Hit edit and spell check all day.

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reaferfore20 - 869 days 4 hours ago

14.2 - They've got the games

For now.

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Azures - 869 days 13 hours ago

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And here I thought the PS3 was over engineered...

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snoop_dizzle - 869 days 13 hours ago

16 - here is the possible answer once again

once a year passes and if this is true, and all the older 360s phase out, make you 360 get the rrod and pray a better version of the 360 comes back.

:P

Anyways, who knows if this is ture, but hey, i am kinda ske[tical about this.

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Lacarious - 869 days 13 hours ago

17 - RETARDED POST OF THE DAY

Seriously.... this is L A M E... what's next.... an AIM chat convo?

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DrPirate - 869 days 13 hours ago

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"Some games need a Hard Disk Drive to be enjoyed the same way some games need a memory unit"

Next Year: Well....You know, games are moving forward and some games need HD-DVD capacity disks to enjoy, it's the industry moving forward.

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s8anicslayer - 869 days 13 hours ago

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if they do that their price will be what? say $599

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