Valve has teams 'working on other stuff'

KionicWarlord222 - 40 days 11 hours ago

If you referring to left 4 dead 2 , it cant be a dlc .

It`s bigger then the the first left 4 dead .

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Dexters - 40 days 10 hours ago

Please troll in the Open Zone GWAVE. Thanks.

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MasFlowKiller - 40 days 7 hours ago

I want HL3 not HL Episode 3
and i still left 4 dead 2 could have all been DLC, not all together at once but spread out , i played the demo and its not doing anything new for me so am skipping this one.

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Perjoss - 40 days 6 hours ago

hmm,
I think its more likely they are all just sitting around playing WoW on giant monitors

http://media.photobucket.co...

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KionicWarlord222 - 40 days 10 hours ago

"In the amount of time they've been supposedly working on episode 3, how many full games with complete, fleshed out plots have other devs made? "

How do you know ?

There a small team .

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Godmars290 - 40 days 9 hours ago

That happens to manage a very popular, and hopefully very profitable, download. Yet they not only take years to put out a game, but when they come out they tend to be bug riddled.

Edit: BTW:
"They're a small team."
"There is a small team."
"Their one of EA's small teams."

As much as I hate people making this mistake, I make it as well :p

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KionicWarlord222 - 40 days 9 hours ago

"hopefully very profitable"

There`s nothing valve has to be hopeful for. There making a lot cash off steam .

" Yet they not only take years to put out a game, but when they come out they tend to be bug riddled. "

Xbox 360 has some bugs in it but nothing outrageous . PC i cant comment on .

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toaster - 40 days 9 hours ago

Let me ask you this.
How many games rock a 96 on Metacritic?
How many games have the full support from community? That's mods, forums, clans, socializing.
How many games in a series has been all AAA?
How many franchises have a f*cking gravity gun?

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Godmars290 - 40 days 9 hours ago

Its either "They're making a lot cash off Steam," or "They are making a lot cash off Steam." And I say "hopefully" because you never really know if they're making money off it or just breaking even. If they are making tons off of it, they certainly have space to ignore and insult a platform that they could have made a few million off of.

As for them being anything on the 360 I still hold, have nothing that convinces me otherwise, that Valve are PC snobs at best. That if MS hadn't made the 360's dev tools PC friendly you probably wouldn't have seen it on the system.

That they have to patch a demo twice with one literally atop the other, especially when we're talking about a ten year old game engine, smacks of something other than snobery much less talent to me.

@toaster:
What does any of that have to do with anything? Especially a supportive community who's only going to defend something they obviously like.

Yes, people like Valve games. That doesn't excuse Valve from taking years to make added content or patching demos hours after they're released.

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toaster - 40 days 9 hours ago

They made Steam the superior distribution service.

And IMO I think Valve should NEVER have developed for 360. They're wasting they're time. I own a 360 btw. When I play Orange Box on 360 it makes me want to cry in shame at how they mutilated the game.

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KionicWarlord222 - 40 days 9 hours ago

lol...godmars .

Thank you for correcting my spelling .

Every game has bugs . Your acting like these bugs are stopping people from enjoying the game .

Wouldn't a game being ported have a few bugs ?

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Godmars290 - 40 days 8 hours ago

Missing the point.

Its not like bugs aren't common, its that it seems they're more common with Valve. That because Valve has Steam to lean on, they use it to excess. That instead of taking the time to make something that should be forgettable - by the programmers - as a demo is done right the first time, its sent out in such a state that it has to be fixed otherwise it could make them look bad. With the only reason they aren't looking bad by patching it is that "bugs are common."

Its like they're playing off the same mentality that has people thanking MS for 3 year warrenties instead of making a 360 right the first time.

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mastiffchild - 40 days 6 hours ago

I'ce been off good terms with Valve for a while now. To be honest it was the last straw for me when they sold me the 360 version of L4D. I wanted to play with a few non PC gaming mates and loved a little L4D on the PC previously. Now I didn't expect parity but neither did I expect the overprived, underpowered mess I payed for. Nothing that makes the PC version good is present in the 360 game-lesss support from Valve, no community support, no mods. And it cost me over twice what I payed on Steam to add insult to injury.

That's why I had to laugh when Gabe apologised for the OB port on PS3 that they didn't even do! They SHOULG have been saying sorry about THAT pile of crap they ARE responsible(directly) for.

360 only gamers sometimes act like it's one of the 360's crown jewels when, in fact, it's plainly embarrassing and they shoul moan like mad at both Valve and MS for the sorry state of affairs. The only thing more ludicrous is PS3 owners jealous of it! If they only knew! Played on PC it's a great .little game but on 360 it's beyong insulting. Worst gaming experience this gen was being so let down by this.

As for bugs, we get more and more from most devs as they realise what a crappy, soulless community we are-more interested in rubbishing each other than demanding the quality we deserve. Just look at IW this week to see what I mean. They're hardly being punished for dragging MP gaming backwards are they? Never mind just PC gamers we should have ALL demended them and not bought til they caved in. If one treats us crappy and gets away with it most of them will!

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STONEY4 - 40 days 3 hours ago

"That they have to patch a demo twice with one literally atop the other, especially when we're talking about a ten year old game engine, smacks of something other than snobery much less talent to me."

On PC, patching is a bit different than console devs do it. Instead of waiting a month or two and releasing a big patch, PC devs release small updates regulary so we don't have to wait. Only takes about 5 seconds to download and install through Steam. The Left4Dead 2 patches for the demo were pretty small.

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toaster - 40 days 9 hours ago

You're joking right?

CS2 would never come consoles. If you think hard enough you can figure out why.

EDIT: @ Below

The reason why the XBox Version was never popular because it sucked. A game like CS needs the community for maps, mods, skins, and a whole bunch of other stuff.

I think there are only about 20 official maps for CSS.

When you look for a game you'll see about 100+ different maps. Each map has specific rules, gametypes, restrictions, whathaveyou.
That would never be possible on consoles.

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ZombieAutopsy - 40 days 9 hours ago

why? Yea the first one was on pc only but their was also a counter strike for the original xbox if you remember so i dont see why they wouldnt make a cheap port to make a ton of money.

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trancefreak - 40 days 9 hours ago

Toaster is right the mods and downloadble maps to skinning players and weapons what take the fun out of it for sure.

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toaster - 40 days 8 hours ago

You mean the inferior/outdated/lesser/crap hardware that's called the 360?

Learn to play noob. Valve + PC = Godlike.

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likedamaster - 40 days 7 hours ago

PC = Ultimate superior gaming machine... if you can afford it!

on topic/
I'm glad to hear that they're working on Ep.3 and some more games. Hopefully the Sony tards get to play on their console... or not.

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