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Toshiba adopts Blu-ray for laptops, completes shame circle

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Engadget writes "First Toshiba caved on Blu-ray for the home, and now they're taking the sad show portable. The once-great defender of the HD-DVD crown has begun adopting the format for its laptops, bringing the discs to the P500 (a member of the Satellite family). The system -- which was released originally in June sans Blu-ray -- sports an 18.4 inch (1920 x 1080) display, HDMI REGZA link, a Core 2 Duo CPU, 4GB of RAM, a 500GB hard drive, and a slew of the standard ports and wireless radios. The laptop will be available in October, irony comes standard on all models."
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PirateThom - 125 days 12 hours ago
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I don't see why Toshiba should be "ashamed".

They're not dragging their feet, they're progressing in line with everyone else and not holding back the media like others try to.
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MisterNiwa - 125 days 11 hours ago
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1.1 - Oh they should.
Toshiba was pretty sure that their HD DVDs are way better than Blu Rays. :3
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raztad - 125 days 11 hours ago
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Who should be ashamed is the writer of that title/article.
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Genesis5 - 125 days 11 hours ago
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Now how about MS? They still blowin' the dvd 9 is good enough for us horn? There should be no shame in joining the rest of us in the 21st century.
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N4realGMRZ - 125 days 11 hours ago
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1.4 - @Misterniwa
And they where right Hddvd video playback was always a tad bit crisper that Bluray....although sony did get better with firmware updates toshiba had better playback no question about it. Sony had a better business model by far though!
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darthv72 - 125 days 11 hours ago
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1.5 - agreed tom
Toshiba as a company is one of the best in tech. I actually prefer them to sony because they make some quality products that dont cost an arm and a leg. That is my personal opinion and anyone is entitled to their own.

They have no reason to feel ashamed of anything. Was sony ashamed when they made vhs players/recorders? Nope. No difference here. I think people lose perspective on the whole format war because they tend to only see one side. I guess that is typical of war.

you have to see it from both sides to see the gains/losses. The blu format won out to more studio support thanks mostly to one of the biggest developers of the format ALSO having some of the biggest movie studios. That is not a crime, it just makes sense for sony to take its movie studios and release bluray.

People forget toshiba is a hardware company. They arent like sony and have movie studios in their pocket. That isnt a statement for defense it is a simple fact. Is HDDVD really worse than bluray? Honestly no. So many similarities that I believe in the beginning they were in effect the same. Differences of opinions may have led to the separation and formation of an alternate format.

People gloat like it was some sort of personal victory they achieved when blu "won" the war. You need to let it go and just see this for what it is. Evolution in technology and it will keep evolving so long as companies like sony, toshiba, pioneer, jvc etc keep finding new ways to improve on things we take for granted.
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umair_s51 - 125 days 11 hours ago
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Yes I agree with the part not holding back the media like others. I wonder whose he referring to...
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Raf1k1 - 125 days 8 hours ago
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I agree with Thom.

I don't remember Toshiba ever doing anything particularly shameful. They were confident in their format and TBH it would be a sad sight if they weren't confident in it's own product.

I think this is the second article today that has tried to make it out as though Toshiba has done something really bad and should be hanging it's head in shame.
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pixelsword - 125 days 8 hours ago
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1.8 - Analogy for Toshiba trading up
... Not that there's anything wrong with it.


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Baka-akaB - 125 days 8 hours ago
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Why would they be ashamed of ? They fought fair and square for their product that's all .

Unlike MS who pimped the hd dvd like nobody only to drop it without even some second thought and going like "who cares online is the future!!" .
Hell had MS actually truely supported the HD dvd , starting by putting games on it , the whole industry would have felt better .
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Sitdown - 125 days 7 hours ago
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1.10 - @Misterniwa
Who had the ethernet port since the beginning....and who had Blue Live features before Blue Live actually came out?
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MNicholas - 125 days 7 hours ago
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1.11 - Nice to see
All those poor idiots who bought HD-DVD players must be kicking themselves.

Just like Dreamcast fanboys, the HD-DVD fanboys will continue to disparage Blu-Ray for the next ten years, blindly supporting any it's competitor in the hope that Blu-Ray will be defeated.
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badz149 - 125 days 6 hours ago
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1.12 - pfft...why should they be ashamed?
they are business afterall and they fought well with the HD DVD. now that they have lost, should they be clinging to the HD DVD still or exploiting the market by adopting the winning format and continue to make money? if I own a business, I'm pretty much sure of what to do next. this writer is stupid IMO!

Sony and Toshiba have good relationship in business as well as they are competing in it. Toshiba is providing Sony with the CELL BE for the PS3s for instance! yeah, Sony sold the whole manufacturing line to Toshiba not so long ago! they are together with IBM in designing the CELL BE to begin with!
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Sarcasm - 125 days 6 hours ago
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Kids don't understand the concept of a "Business"

That's why FFXIII went multiplatform.

That's why Warner Bro's chose Blu-Ray.

And that's why Toshiba is now adopting Blu-Ray.

Also, people always see it as "OMG Toshiba vs Sony" but don't realize Sony and Toshiba has been doing business all along. The Cell chips and other mems products.
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King Arthur - 125 days 4 hours ago
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1.14 - @umair_s51
I'm not sure but I think 54.2% of the people in this website would know.;)
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rockleex - 124 days 11 hours ago
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1.15 - Bluray is the new standard.
What else is Toshiba supposed to do? Keep supporting DVDs? -_-"
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Pandamobile - 125 days 11 hours ago
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They lost the format war, no shame in using the format you lost to.
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xsteinbachx - 125 days 11 hours ago
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No not at all....
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Silence - 125 days 10 hours ago
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2.2 - if you can't beat 'em...
...well you know the rest
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xsteinbachx - 125 days 10 hours ago
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Hire someone else to finish the job and to hide the body?
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LCF - 125 days 11 hours ago
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Sony went to Toshiba and was willing to a do a unified format of the 2. Obviously is was rejected and now here we are. However Toshiba and Sony are more partners then the media would lead you to believe.
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Elven6 - 125 days 5 hours ago
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Sony didn't go to Toshiba, Toshiba went to Sony. Since DVD was already the standard format the official successor to it would have been HD DVD. Toshiba and the DVD Forum wen to the BDA asking for things such as HDi in Blu Ray. They declined this and a few other things and the format war begun.

The HDi business is ironic and sad, it was a great development platform that seems to have disappeared. Disney actually supported the HDi format and the DVD Forum's reasoning to pressure the BDA to adopt it, but for some reason they went with Blu Ray despite all of this.

On topic: If you are a HD DVD owner who as yet to go Blu, these Toshiba players are a great reason to jump in.
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joydestroy - 125 days 11 hours ago
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they need to add this to their smaller laptops though and increase their resolution. i wanna see 1200p. who wants to lug around a laptop with a 18.4" screen!?!? 17" is as far as i go
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El_Colombiano - 125 days 11 hours ago
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I can't stand 16:10 aspect ratio. 1920x1080 is more than enough.
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Pandamobile - 125 days 11 hours ago
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16:10 is the standard for PC monitors because it's taller and offers more space.
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joydestroy - 125 days 11 hours ago
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yeah 1080 isn't enough if you're editing photos/video.
but for games, yes.
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El_Colombiano - 125 days 6 hours ago
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Fair enough guys. All I do is game on PC anyway.
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dragonelite - 125 days 11 hours ago
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No sh!t son. Why try to sell a format that nobody wants that plain stupid. And be glad most people dont have access to blu ray burners/readers when blu ray becomes mainstream say goodbye to the ps 3 game ripping on the internet. I believe there was a 11% adapted rate on pc for blu ray so yeah in 5~8 years almost everyone will have blu ray because average pc users change pc every 4 years or so.
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Baka-akaB - 125 days 7 hours ago
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It doesnt matter if the blu is cheap or mainstream when it comes to ps3 hacking .
You got to go past both hardware and software protections on the console . Wich is why the entire library of the ps3 is online ripped , but pretty much useless .
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The-Warranty - 125 days 11 hours ago
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6 - Wait I'm confused
Is Blu-Ray Still Doomed?
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Silence - 125 days 10 hours ago
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6.1 - Blu-Ray is doomed until...
Microsoft adopts it.

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TotalPS3Fanboy - 125 days 7 hours ago
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6.2 - BluRay is doom!!!
DVD is the future!!!
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Sarcasm - 125 days 6 hours ago
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I agree with Silence. Blu-Ray is DoooOOooomed.

But once Microsoft adopts it.

I bet we'll see PR statements like "We've had this in our core design since 1995! We were just waiting for the right time."

Then the media will go ape and say stuff like "Blu-Ray is amazing! Wow! MS is really pushing forward the industry!"

And Blu-Ray is doomed articles will end.

And Cnet will make an article, "Skip the $2000 laptop, get a 360 Blu-Ray add-on instead"

Something like that lol
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cardgenius - 125 days 10 hours ago
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What....should they have put HD-DVDs in all their new laptops?
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Figboy - 125 days 10 hours ago
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8 - there IS NO "shame circle."
it's just business.

Toshiba tried to push HD DVD, and it didn't work out.

no bridges have been burned, olive branches were extended, and now Toshiba is supporting the winning format, Blu Ray.

that's not anything to be ashamed of. it's simply good business.

if Microsoft were to adopt Blu Ray in their next console, that wouldn't be shame either, just good, forward-thinking business.

Toshiba has nothing to be ashamed of. besides, they make some good products, honestly. maybe not on the same level as Sony or Samsung, but damn good, and for good prices.

sorry about that last sentence, it sounded like a Toshiba commercial.

anyway, there's no point in trying to further "humiliate" Toshiba. Blu Ray won. that's enough of a victory for Blu Ray pundits (i've supported Blu Ray since the beginning, and i had my fun gloating over the victory over HD DVD, but it's done and done now. time to move on; besides, i'm too busy smugly enjoying all the sudden Sony ball-licking from the gaming media now that the PS3 has gained momentum, and is looking to follow in it's older brother's footsteps. oh sweet, delicious irony...).
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DuneBuggy - 125 days 3 hours ago
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I didnt realize Samsung was placed on a pedestal with Sony nowdays. When I was a kid, my first TV was by a "forget me brand" called Samsung. They werent looked as being any better than a Emerson or Magnavox then and priced to match. Just a cheap Kmart TV.
But it never died on me.....

My washer/dryer are Samsung as is my upconverted DVD recorder/player in the living room.
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Figboy - 124 days 14 hours ago
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8.2 - yeah,Samsung's come a long way,
and have made a name for themselves.

i believe their HDTVs are made in the same factory as Sony's HDTVs. well, the screens, at least.

I have a 40" 720p/1080i Samsung, and it's great.

i plan on buying a 26" or 32" Samsung for my wife, and a PS3 slim also, so we don't have to fight over the TV and games.
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divideby0 - 125 days 10 hours ago
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sad show ?
wth
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whateva - 125 days 10 hours ago
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10 - Will you people let that stupid format war go!
it's time to move on.
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Cajun Chicken - 125 days 9 hours ago
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I-ron-eeeeeee!!!
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supremacy - 125 days 8 hours ago
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13 - wow
i cant believe this is happening, a friend of mines who works in retail told me this would happen, and also said that microsoft would eventually adopt the format as well, but that it might take em a year or 2 to pledge their support, apple is in as well but have yet to pledge their entire support.

i guess as soon as prices get cheaper than they are at this point in time, dont be surprised to see these companies take a bluray dive as well.

it all makes sense now with that halo movie still in pending mode, ms will have to eventually accept the terms and take the dive, i dont know what this would than mean for the 360, but ms in general i know are set to jump in as well.

that is if my friend is right about that as well, i guess ill just have to wait and see.
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cheapndirty - 125 days 8 hours ago
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Toshiba also uses teh cell processor in some of their hdtvs. Its all business to them.If 8 track players came back they would sell them as would everyone else that is wants to make a buck.

Dont harp on Toshiba for doing blu ray. Sony offered vhs decks after losing that format war.
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DuneBuggy - 125 days 3 hours ago
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Agreed 100%. The author was harsh and the Betamax thing popped into my head too. I used to have a Sony VHS!
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CRAIG667 - 125 days 2 hours ago
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15 - erm
Dont mistake irony for business sense assh*&e
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STRAIGHTASL - 124 days 15 hours ago
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16 - bravo toshiba!
now what, MS? darn bring blu-ray to xbox 360! dvd sucks!
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