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Nintendo, Sony and MS 'will never support OnLive'

The Big Three platform holders – Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo – will not support OnLive with their software, according to Gaikai founder David Perry.

"A pretty obvious difference between Gaikai and OnLive is the fact that they'll never have a Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft game on their system," Perry told Develop in an interview published today.

"OnLive is trying to directly compete with the platform holders," said Perry, speaking of the TV-tethered micro-console that OnLive can run on.
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LukaX23 - 151 days 17 hours ago
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who knows.......
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Chris399 - 151 days 17 hours ago
1.1 - Why would they support OnLive when they can release a cloud-based gaming service on their own boxes?
With their own software and licensing fees? Kudos to OnLive for being the first to do this, but I doubt that they will be the last or the most successful - not by a long shot.
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locos85 - 151 days 13 hours ago
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Good because I won't support On-Live. I prefer my games to be played from my home. Not of a server in a faraway land.
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Syronicus - 151 days 13 hours ago
1.3 - Why would they support OnLive...?
Especially since OnLive is competition for the three companies? It's silly to think that OnLive will ever be a part of the three. They are competitors, not partners.
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likedamaster - 151 days 13 hours ago
1.4 -
"Why would they support OnLive...?
Especially since OnLive is competition for the three companies?"

-I agree. I would still get this service especially with what you can do, i.e. like watch others all over the world playing games, record gameplay, etc. Not a bad service actually, considering what it offers and the absurd amount of games coming out all at the same time. You could have played more than ten games in a month and would have only payed $50(supposing it's that much per month) opposed to roughly $600 if you were to buy all those games.
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darthv72 - 151 days 10 hours ago
1.5 - with a name like "OnLive"
you would think MS would be all over that. Yet they have their own streaming service coming to games soon. No doubt sony will offer something similar after observing the results. Nintendo just doesnt have the infrastructure in place to support a service (yet).
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IdleLeeSiuLung - 151 days 10 hours ago
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OnLive gaming will be like how you deal with web hosting companies when your site goes down and it was running before and you didn't make any changes. The problem must be on your end!

That is why I will probably never support OnLive, I see no reason to support a service that is likely to be more laggy than the current model. Even though the multiplayer games could be hosted on OnLive server, the video stream and the input received is still likely to be worse than the current system. One interesting side benefit though is that cheating is probably harder.... Perhaps this would be the driving factor.
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FamilyGuy - 151 days 8 hours ago
1.7 - Really?
Seems to me that OnLive competing more with "Games for Windows" than the console specifically.
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mrnintendo96 - 151 days 3 hours ago
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Why would Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft support OnLive?? It is their competing console. It's like if Nintendo decided to put "Super Mario Galaxy" on PlayStation Store. It will never happen.
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DeadlyFire - 150 days 15 hours ago
1.9 - Here is how I see it.
I say OnLive will most likely stay out of console circuit for awhile. Although they did offer that they would partner with anyone. Unless someone new comes along. Microsoft might jump into it. You never know. Apple or EA could also partner up.

GaiKai will most likely be happy to join Nintendo and Playstation. As it is more of a freeish open type service. Even has Mario Kart with hopes for more games from other platforms. Said that Mods will be supported as well. Although must be created through the service as it would be saved on cloud service, but so far that is better than what I have heard about game mods for either of the other two services. GaiKai looks to be better out of the 3 so far.

OTOY service will most likely be ready for Microsoft to jump into. As it is the only service that has been Demoed with an Xbox 360 controller so far. So its very likely it could work on Xbox 360. Controller though could of just been testing thing. Might work with other controllers as well. Not much has been said about this service just yet. Just a few videos on Youtube. Also has videos on Youtube of some great graphics promised, but I don't know what that means if anything for their gaming service. They partnered with AMD for it I believe.
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belal - 151 days 17 hours ago
2 - lol
onlive will nevvver be better than a console.

more people will buy console over an onlive system.
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shiner - 151 days 13 hours ago
2.1 - Never say never....
I believe as recent as a few months ago, I heard MANY a MS/Sony fan saying their respective console will NEVER support motion controls.
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mrnintendo96 - 151 days 2 hours ago
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The thing is if you are a gamer with no Internet, and buy this thing (people who don't come here will) you will be SCREWED. Also if you have a crappy connection it will probably be laggy.

And the BIG first-party games won't be on the system either.
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sam2236 - 151 days 14 hours ago
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I'm not surpried, OnLive is never going to work anyway.
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BX81 - 151 days 13 hours ago
3.1 - Hmm
Humph! Technology confuse Thag!!! Thag make fire keep meat-a-sorus at bay! Humph!
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Major_Tom - 151 days 14 hours ago
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Perhaps online doesn't work for you, but it works out great for us people with fast internet.
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sam2236 - 151 days 14 hours ago
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You do know that not everyone has fast internet, right? There's also two little things called lag and contention rate.

How are they going to stream a game like Crysis over the internet without it lagging like hell?

Seriously, OnLive is going to fail.

EDIT: And yes, they're using Crysis to market OnLive.
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Xi - 151 days 13 hours ago
4.2 - and what about packet loss?
or flushed packets?

How will online deal with these factors, specially with games that require percise timing.
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Major_Tom - 151 days 13 hours ago
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Yes I do know not everyone has fast internet and that's why I ended my sentence the way I did.

If anything that is something more centered on competitiveness Xi not really that important in a single player game. By the way you can already try an example of OnLive it's more rudimentary but works under the same construct and it works whether you choose to believe it or not. With proper work being done OnLive can work great.

Don't be afraid of change.
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Xi - 151 days 13 hours ago
4.4 - if you honestly believe that as the case.
Good look trying to play a game like DMC4 or streetfighter 4 or even assassins creed over onlive, half the time regular input with no lag still misses certain combinations or timing let alone what what will happen over a connection. And with games like dante's inferno, bayonetta, Castelvania, AC2 coming out it's not like there's only 1 game that might be affected.

And what about when the services or your provider are doing matainence and you're off line, you can't play any games.
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Major_Tom - 151 days 13 hours ago
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You're arguing rhetoric right now there is no use in trying to demean it when you don't have your hands on it. I'm not saying it will be great but for us people who want a change and want to check it out I'm sure they will have their own install base, and for people like yourself who absolutely refuse this is even possible that's great glad you do.
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Xi - 151 days 13 hours ago
4.6 - arguing rhetoric?
No I'm basing this off of logic and current trends. People who believe in onlive are people believing in a pipe-dream and should come back down to reality.

Onlive is the phantom 2 and look at how far the original got.
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Major_Tom - 151 days 13 hours ago
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Lol whatever, conversation is done.
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MegaPowa - 151 days 11 hours ago
4.8 - ugh
Don't you think they would of researched into that for gods sake i mean seriously they're not idiots 400mil went into this crap i don't think they would overlook stuff like that
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Xi - 151 days 13 hours ago
5 - I don't believe in online.
It wont be viable for a while. There's just too low of an adoption of high-bandwith internet in europe and NA, let alone other countries. I doubt japan would have much of an interest with their recent turn to portable gaming.

I just don't see onlive, as a standalone service, ever panning out. Maybe if sony or MS decided to develop it as a payable service, it might work, but on it's own it wont.
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shiner - 151 days 12 hours ago
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Too low of an adoption of high bandwidth internet in Europe?!? If Im not mistaken, most if not all online games and console games played online require high bandwidth/higspeed internet to play online. At this moment there's probably hundreds of thousands, if not millions of gamers playing online in Europe alone.

I'm not sure why console gamers are so scared of Onlive becoming a reality. Your consoles will always be there because of the ease of plugging and playing. Onlive will be just another option for PC gamers to play games, and with the popularity of PC gaming in Asia and Europe, I could honestly see Onlive taking off.
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kagon01 - 151 days 13 hours ago
6 - Onlive is only for PC...
PERIOD.
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DeadlyFire - 150 days 15 hours ago
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Don't forget Mac and other OSes out there.
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Th3 Chr0nic - 151 days 13 hours ago
7 - IF you needed an article or a headline to tell you this...
Give up now...please
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shiner - 151 days 13 hours ago
7.1 - Lol, no kidding....
In other breaking news....Sony "will never support XBoxLive" either, and vice versa.
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mcgrawgamer - 151 days 13 hours ago
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but one has to wonder. David Perry makes these statements about OnLive how well does he think his service Gaika will do? I mean they are essentially the same thing right? I don't see the big 3 supporting any cloud computing service except their own in house services.
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gumgum99 - 151 days 13 hours ago
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which reminds me...

this is probably the first I've heard of Onlive since post-GDC. In any case, its nice to see that we console owners can at least agree on something: that Onlive is gonna have one heck of a time convincing us to drop the big three.
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Ceekay - 151 days 13 hours ago
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OnLive may turn out good for singleplayer games when you're travelling and have a laptop with you. I doubt it will replace anything.
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mrv321 - 151 days 12 hours ago
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I though Microsoft was all for Downloads, well guess not. They dislike any competition and will support anything that can give them a quick buck. Sony and Nintendo are no different but atleats they don't have goes at the competition ALL THE TIME!

This kinda points out the obvious though... it's like saying

Women dislike pedophiles.
Everyone loves the DS.... etc.
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sam2236 - 151 days 12 hours ago
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@BX81: HA, HA, HA, OH WOW! u r a comeedeean!

As you can see from the comments, a lot of people agree that OnLive will fail. It will lag. It won't be able to play Crysis or any game that needs a top-of-the-range PC to run.

Deal with with.
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shiner - 151 days 12 hours ago
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As I can see from the comments, there are alot of uninformed and fanatic console lovers who will bash anything that doesn't fit into their console gaming world.

With the proper set up and connection you can play ANY game online 99% lag free. My PC plays COD4 among others online without so much as a hiccup. Console gamers are just so used to frame drops and connection problems that they think the problems are universal throughout the worldwide gaming community. Wake up apes, this isn't 2002, technology moves along pretty quick nowdays. When you guys are waiting years for your next gen console to come out, PC gamers and tech fans in general are keeping up with the times.

That's why it will come as no suprise to me when Onlive turns out to totally kick a**.
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punisher99 - 151 days 11 hours ago
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My main problem is. How can the creators of on-live pitch their service as a "unified console"? When there is no way that Sony and Nintendo would ever alow their first party games on another platform. (Except for the few SOE titles out there thats also gonna be on PC.) But anyway, all on-live is, is another way for PC gamers to play games. Its not gonna affect Sony, nintendo, and MS because of "exclusives".
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morkendo - 151 days 11 hours ago
15 - hmmm??
if on-live cant use the big 3 then they really using coleco, saga, intellivison games then lol
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shiner - 151 days 10 hours ago
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OnLive may not be able to use the Big 3, but you better believe the Big 3 will try their best to use OnLive. I can picture this conversation a couple years from now.....

Sony: Hey buddy, I see you got ___million subscribed users. Maybe we
could work a deal to get a Killzone 3 demo out on OnLive.
Of course it's a PS3 exclusive so you can only play the full
game on PS3.

OnLive: OK but it's gonna cost ya ____$

Sony: No prob, It'll be worth it when people come running out to buy
KZ 3 by the truckloads. We'll make that back and then some. Deal

MS: Hey buddy, Maybe we could work out a deal to get a Gears 3 demo
out on OnLive.........

OnLive: We're gonna need bigger wallets.
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jleack - 151 days 10 hours ago
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You're better off upgrading your computer for $200-$250 than paying monthly OnLive fees.
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II Necroplasm II - 151 days 10 hours ago
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paying monthly OnLive fees for down servers all the time too.
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Quadrix - 151 days 9 hours ago
17 - "Nintendo, Sony and MS 'will never support OnLive'"
No ****ing sh*t!
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boss_killa - 151 days 8 hours ago
18 - i will never support onlive
bet on that.

long live nintendo, sony, and microsoft the holy trinity. lol
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