Rumor: 360 a footnote in Microsoft's CES keynote

happyface - 355 days 16 hours ago

very sad, MS probably knows KILLZONE2 is coming and is afraid to show anything

Agree(19) | Disagree(17) | Report

chaosatom - 355 days 16 hours ago

We all knew that it will happen eventually.

Multiplatform games are now driving the 360. Not necessarily a bad thing, but having first party studios creating games is always good for long term.

Agree(16) | Disagree(1) | Report

darkpower - 355 days 16 hours ago

Unless they decided to buy up a PS3 exclusive to go multiplatform (which they're not many left that they can get to go multi now that they really went to THAT well one too many times).

See, I KNEW that practice would come back to bite them on the ass!

Agree(13) | Disagree(1) | Report

EXCLUSIVEGAMER - 355 days 15 hours ago

HACKERS!!!!!!!!!

Agree(10) | Disagree(2) | Report

EXCLUSIVEGAMER - 355 days 15 hours ago

oh shhhhhhhnap i just thought of this:

how much do yuou think ms would drop down to aquire killzone2?

LOL....i know some of you hate me right now.

but wait,

Once they do(big IF), will kz2 run on the 360? LOL.

that would be crazy, because i dont think killzone 2 can run on the 360

Agree(8) | Disagree(11) | Report

chaosatom - 355 days 15 hours ago

it can always run Killzone 1

Agree(11) | Disagree(2) | Report

GWAVE - 355 days 15 hours ago

With all their 1st-party studios dropping like flies, what CAN they really announce? A $30 budget Halo title rushed out the door to grab sales (Bungie's own words; they want it to be a small spin-off)? GTA4 downloadable content? Halo Wars? The unlikely chance that Alan Wake comes out?

It's becoming more and more difficult to brag about the 360 being the console king of exclusives when...well...they aren't. Sony and Nintendo are continuing to churn out plenty of 1st and 2nd party titles a year whereas Microsoft seems to lose a few titles every year.

Just another sign that the Xbox 720 is soon to come and 360 owners will be dropped by Microsoft. Oh well.

Agree(10) | Disagree(3) | Report

Elven6 - 355 days 15 hours ago

Why is this surprising anyone? It's always been like that, CES isn't a gaming oriented show so the target audience won't really be as interested compared to E3 or another gaming related event.

Agree(5) | Disagree(1) | Report

The Lazy One - 355 days 15 hours ago

this made me giggle...

2009... HEY! that's now!

Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report

BLaZiN PRopHeT - 355 days 15 hours ago

LOL its fing CES nothing big gets announced at CES for gamers. its the same sh1t every year. Gamers watch and hope for some news but get disappointed. Just wait for GDC. You know a conference about GAMES

Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report

darkpower - 355 days 12 hours ago

"We all know Microsoft is working on Mass Effect 2... how come no official announcement? Does that means they are NOT working on it?"

Umm...MICROSOFT is working on it?

Last I checked, Bioware and EA were the people behind ME, not Microsoft.

And the rumors about that game going multiplat just further kills your entire argument's cred from that alone.

Agree(7) | Disagree(5) | Report

Gambit07 - 355 days 9 hours ago

@Blademaster: I'm just fascinated by your devotion, truly a work of art.

Agree(5) | Disagree(4) | Report

The Lazy One - 355 days 8 hours ago

EA doesn't have publishing rights to anything in the mass effect universe.

It's Bioware/Pandemic and MGS that work on mass effect. EA gets rights if MGS declines publishing it though (which MGS would have to be dumb to do).

Agree(1) | Disagree(4) | Report

darkpower - 355 days 8 hours ago

They published the PC version. MGS only did the 360 one (when Bioware was still independent, the EA takeover didn't happen until AFTER the 360 version released). There's no real indication that I'm aware of (it doesn't say anything on Wiki) as to who owns the publishing rights. I assume it was Bioware before EA acquired them, but it never actually brings that up as to who holds them.

Agree(2) | Disagree(2) | Report

AAACE5 - 355 days 7 hours ago

So much negativity on a post about the 360... I don't get it?

It seems like Ps3 fanboys only like their games cause it gives them something to brag about!

Leading up to holiday 2008, Ps3 fanboys were boasting Resistance 2 and LBP as the games that would end all! Shortly after... No one even talks about R2, and there is barely any comments about LBP.

I hope Killzone 2 is that great gem the fanboys are hoping for, cause maybe if they have that, they can stop feeling like they have to compare themselves to the 360!

Ps3 is the most powerful console this gen... so why do you guys feel the need to compare to the 360.

I think we all know 2009 will be the Ps3's year, so I think you fanboys can take a break now!

Agree(2) | Disagree(8) | Report

Jazz4108 - 355 days 3 hours ago

Come on, this is CES, it is not a gamer show and never has been. I live in Las Vegas and attend it every year. Its about introuducing all the hottest new tech devices for the coming year, not games.

Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report

gaffyh - 355 days 2 hours ago

@Bladestar - You DO know that happyface is an xbox fanboy right? And last time I checked the Sony E3 conference was the BEST this year. You seem to be forgetting MS went all casual this year with the most crappiest games that make me wish I didn't have a 360 :(, if any f***wit actually bought You're in the Movies, they deserve to be punched in the face repeatedly.

Is Sony doing a conference at CES? (Although if they do it will probably concentrate on their OLED tvs)

Agree(2) | Disagree(1) | Report

Marquis_de_Sade - 354 days 23 hours ago

I'm more than content with what both consoles bring us this year. All consoles have rough years, 2007 was poor for the PS3, 2010 will be poor for the 360, although Halo:ODST and Halo Wars will hopefully live up to the expectation. Luckily I have both consoles so I can enjoy the best of both worlds.

Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report

prowiew - 354 days 22 hours ago

This was expected. CES was never a gaming megaton show.

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

THAMMER1 - 354 days 22 hours ago

Could you be more bitter!?

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

Erotic Sheep - 354 days 22 hours ago

Bladestar you're a noob. You make less sense than a chipmunk humping a turd.

Oh and FYI, its EA and Bioware making Mass Effect 2, well done. I did notice the only exclusive you could name now is Gears of War 2.. seriously are you so much in denial that you actually think Microsoft has more 1st party devs like Sony and Nintendo??

Agree(2) | Disagree(1) | Report

ThatCanadianguy420 - 355 days 16 hours ago

This is the real Steve balmer..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Agree(6) | Disagree(0) | Report

KnaveX - 355 days 16 hours ago

i know! who in the right mind would give steve jobs?

Agree(3) | Disagree(0) | Report

morganfell - 355 days 15 hours ago

Is it just me or does Balmer remind everyone else of Matt Foley.

Agree(1) | Disagree(2) | Report

The Lazy One - 355 days 15 hours ago

Pirates of Silicon Valley.

That shows how apple and M$ came to be, and it makes more sense after watching it.

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

Jenzo - 355 days 15 hours ago

aka übermensch.

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

Figboy - 355 days 15 hours ago

it's called the CONSUMER ELECTRONICS SHOW.

the Xbox 360 is a piece of consumer electronics, and a very important one to Microsoft, you think it'd garner a bit more than just a brief mention at their show.

a look at what's in store for the future in terms of new features, applications, and software is a must, especially at the start of the new year.

i don't think anybody should be jumping to conclusions about what MS is going to have in store for the 360, but it's a little more than optimistic to think that a company with only 7 first and second party developers has this huge well of software waiting in the wings to unleash upon us during CES, E3, GDC, Leipzig, and TGS.

i would be remiss to not mention that Sony has 29 first and second party studios working on PS3 exclusives, and hardly any of them have been revealed. if there is one company that has a substantial portfolio of unannounced "surprises" for the coming year, it's Sony. Nintendo only has about 8 or so internal studios as well.

MS has coasted on 3rd party support for too long this generation. Sony coasted on 3rd party support during the PS1 era, but immediately began building up their first and second party development houses during the PS2 era. they've continued to increase that support with the PS3, while MS sees content to release studios like Bungie and Ensemble, and cancel promising projects from amazing developers (True Fantasy Live from Level 5), instead of investing in studios that will give them their identity beyond just the tired "shooter console" stereotype that dogs the Xbox consoles.

i own a PS3 and 360, and i want more games to play for my 360 that are exclusive, and really harnessing the power of the 360. games like Fable 2 ARE NOT pushing the 360's limits, and Gears of War looks great, but it's made using an engine that is designed to be multi-platform, and not built from the ground up to push the 360. considering that i have an investment in my 360 console, it's not too much to ask for MS to step up their game, and start building a first and second party legacy.

Agree(3) | Disagree(2) | Report

Kushan - 355 days 14 hours ago

The 360 is what, 3 years old? Plus, they've JUST released a massive update for it, why would they be talking about it again at CES? Simply put, there's nothing TO announce just yet, give it a few months and I'm sure there'll be lots more things on show.
What all has Sony announced recently, anyway? KZ2 has been talked about for years, it's nothing new but it's the PS3 game everyone is talking about. Not bashing Sony here, just saying that nobody's really big on announcing anything at this time of year.
Plus, it's only the KEYNOTE and it has to cover the WHOLE of Microsoft's Consumer electronics stuff and Microsoft's a pretty big company with a lot of fingers in a lot of pies. It's really not a big surprise at all that they're focusing on the next version of WINDOWS, you know, that OS that 90% of the world uses (As opposed to what, 25Million 360 owners?).

Agree(2) | Disagree(1) | Report

elorm9 - 355 days 13 hours ago

So they can't announce NEW exclusives or at least some NEW info about their line-up? That'd be NEWs to me.

Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report

Kushan - 355 days 12 hours ago

I never said they can't, I just said that at this time of year, not much stuff gets announced and CES isn't really the place for it. I mean, there's a couple of big events DEDICATED for games, but not really one dedicated for Windows or Mobile Phones or whatever, so it makes sense that Microsoft will glaze over the 360 a bit here.

Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report

AAACE5 - 355 days 7 hours ago

It cost alot of money to set up stuff for a show! CES is mainly about new tech like Computers, cellphones, etc.

Technically, it is not the place to show games, because they may get overshadowed by the new tech, or the new tech might get overshadowed by the games! If anything, i'd expect a few announcements.

With so many high profile game shows taking place throughout the year... it would not be the best idea to throw money at a show like CES.

Also keep in mind, toward the end of 2008, MS said they would have some surprising announcements in early 2009! Which leads me to believe we should at least hear something at CES or at the first games show of the year.

@Dassalfc... CES is about "NEW" technology! All the current consoles have been out for over a year, so they don't fit in.

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

Evil Gamer - 355 days 16 hours ago

That would be the dumbest move in history to throw ANY cards on the table in JANUARY...There is one timer and one time only that you need to shock the world..and that is E3..period..nothing else comes close...

Last year's CES Sony bragged about its consoles sales and talked about Little Big Planet...So why can't Microsoft talk about Windows 7..The great sales of the holiday season and it's Flagship franchise..

Who cares if some random poster pretends to be oh so disappointed..who cares if Anti-X-Box bloggers tease you at a fanboy site..CES pales in comparison to an E3 that will finally bring back the fans..Keep the Xbox a footnote..it won't change how great it did this year

Agree(3) | Disagree(2) | Report

dazzalfc - 355 days 16 hours ago

...you seem to have forgotten that E3 isnt the show it use to be, and that CES is a bigger show than what you seem to make out. I agree that it isnt the place to showcase new games or make major announcements, however, i would expect something more than 'just a footnote' considering how well the 360 is supposidly doing.

If it is doing that well, then why not take the opportunity to sing and dance about it at a large consumer show?

Agree(2) | Disagree(5) | Report

OOG - 355 days 16 hours ago

yeah people on here dont want to hear that CES is an electronic expo...not a game convention....

ya know.... they like to make assumptions

Agree(2) | Disagree(0) | Report

Kyur4ThePain - 355 days 16 hours ago

While CES is not specifically a gaming expo, your description is more reflective of GDC than CES.

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

N4PS3G - 355 days 16 hours ago

1 hour for 2 games?

seems like they have more to show or talk

Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report

mcgrawgamer - 355 days 16 hours ago

I don't know what they'll show, but the simple fact is this. the 360 is the only console MSFT has so to have a seperate keynote specific to gaming the gaming console shows that the 360 is far from a so called footnote. I'm not saying they'll announce any megatons or anything like that, but the 360 will be a centerpiece of at least 1 of their presentations.

FYI. my info came from the official ces website.

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

Kushan - 355 days 14 hours ago

Don't forget Games for Windows Live, Microsoft is still pushing that and when it comes to PC gaming, Microsoft's OS is pretty much the defacto.

Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report

N4PS3G - 355 days 16 hours ago

Every year is the year of the ps3 didn't you get the memo?

Agree(4) | Disagree(0) | Report

Jenzo - 355 days 15 hours ago

If you were strong enough to lift your arms you might have been able to do that. Maybe your mom could give you a hand too? Oh wait, she's busy lifting Ballmers 'RROD rocket'.

Agree(6) | Disagree(7) | Report

elorm9 - 355 days 15 hours ago

Caption for pic: "do it *bleep*got"

Agree(1) | Disagree(1) | Report

ThatCanadianguy420 - 355 days 14 hours ago

Im sure you know all about Balmers rocket..

Strong arms? I had no trouble helping your mother off her knee's
she had a mouthful.Not sure if she was talking to me tho,i wasn't the only one there :)

Agree(2) | Disagree(2) | Report

Obama - 355 days 14 hours ago

RROD rocket? Jenzo must have seen what we haven't seen before. The xbots here seem to know the anatomy of Cliff B and Ballmer quite well I must say.

Agree(3) | Disagree(2) | Report

Jenzo - 355 days 5 hours ago

Like Cliffy and Ballmer we share the anatomy of winners, not third place losers like yourselves.

Where was mommy & daddy when Howard Stranger invited you to his Home and forced you to rumble his Sixaxis? "This is mandatory, just like our filthy game installs!"

Agree(2) | Disagree(1) | Report

likedamaster - 354 days 19 hours ago

@Jenzo

"rumble his Sixaxis" LOL bubbs

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report

morganfell - 354 days 18 hours ago

He has the anatomy of whiners, not winners. CliffyB is a little chicken chest wimp. I have run into 4 or 5 times here living not far from Epic Studios. He's a gimp little rat that uses his expensive car as compensation for his lack of anatomy.

Agree(1) | Disagree(0) | Report

guiltyspark - 355 days 16 hours ago

Are you upset because sony will never pull out of 3rd place ?

Or do you honestly think there will be major gaming announcements at CES?

Agree(2) | Disagree(14) | Report

eagle21 - 355 days 15 hours ago

yo mama is a dip shi$. :)

Agree(11) | Disagree(1) | Report

eagle21 - 355 days 15 hours ago

You're the only one getting owned.

yo mama must be a dirty crack whore too who runs the KKK!

When your parents make over 250k/yr. it's hard getting welfare checks chump! I bet you are dirt poor. :)

"yo mama" jokes aside, I think you might be white trash. And anyone who agrees with you is as well. Take your trailer park life and shove it.

Agree(8) | Disagree(2) | Report

siyrobbo - 355 days 15 hours ago

halo killer, the amount of times ive heard that branded about! yet it never seems to happen?

Agree(2) | Disagree(6) | Report

guiltyspark - 355 days 15 hours ago

That major gaming websites will flop the hell out of the game for being hyped as the second coming of christ by you people, not just because the gameplay is stale as hell.

BTW , since when have playstation fans been FPS fans?
thats what i find hilarious

ps2 days
"Bu but xbots are having fun and they are not even playing JRPG's.. "

5 years later after the 360 takes the world by storm and everyone is playing shooter games but the playstation doesnt have any

"I LEIK FPS TOO! :D KILLZONE GOTY!!1"

Agree(2) | Disagree(13) | Report

ReTarDedFisHy - 355 days 15 hours ago

IMO both companies are now trying to lure the other side. Microsoft is desperately buying out all RPGs and Sony is pumping out really killer FPS games.

And we're all FPS fans... who the hell isn't? I don't recall anyone saying that FPS games suck back in the PS2 days.

"5 years later after the 360 takes the world by storm and everyone is playing shooter games but the playstation doesnt have any"
What the hell? I'm not even going to say anything about that.
Please, take off your ignorance glasses.

I was in the beta too - and it literally p*ssed on all of my doubts. What's your PSN ID? I'll check you up on the Killzone website - you should have the Beta Recruit badge.

Edit: Oh... no more bubbles. Don't bother then. I ignore PMs from people who don't think before posting.

Agree(6) | Disagree(1) | Report

DHAV0K - 354 days 21 hours ago

i thought killzone 1 was a halo killer? what happened? =x

Agree(0) | Disagree(1) | Report

likedamaster - 354 days 19 hours ago

It has it's flaws but name one thing that's broken. And if you're up to it, name a few. Just wondering, I had a couple peripherals not work when it dropped but even my 10 year old scanner works on it now.

OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64

Agree(0) | Disagree(0) | Report