Pioneer showcases 16-layer 400GB optical disc

Kratos215 - 381 days 9 hours ago

For getting in before all the blu-ray is dead posts.

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IDemonstalkerXI - 381 days 9 hours ago

I can see myself getting a BD drive for my PC in the not to distant future.

Edit: Im waiting for a BD burner you be able to burn at least dual layered 50 GB BD's and have the capability to read those 400 GB BD's I guess if they penetrate the market.

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bviperz - 381 days 9 hours ago

for the prices to reach $100 myself before I slap one in the ol PC.

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BrianC6234 - 381 days 9 hours ago

But it says read only. Are they making a burner for it too? I think 400GB is overkill for movies but it would be nice to have an optical disc I can burn that much data to. A 100GB BD is enough really.

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ruibing - 381 days 8 hours ago

Aww why did you post this up so quickly? I was hoping to read some comments based on just the title of the article that speculates how BD is outdated.

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Tarasque - 381 days 3 hours ago

Why will Blu Ray wait so long to get a terabyte storage in 2013, when TeraDisk will be available in 2010 and it is a a Dvd 1.2mm with 200 layers? And the bad thing is the Dvd will still be half the price of blu ray.

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solidt12 - 381 days 2 hours ago

This disc will be awesome for backing up my PC and PS3 hardrives and movie collections. If they made a game with this disc it would be crazy. 1000 hour game and would cost big time to make.

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AAACE5 - 381 days ago

I think it's safe to say Blu-ray will be around for a while now! It would be almost pointless for anyone to come out with anything else for at least 5 years minimum after this hits.

@Somekindofmike... With Kojima being Kojima, he will probably still say that is not enough space...lol! Just kidding... Don't take a joke so seriously...

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somekindofmike - 381 days ago

lol, I agree 100% with you, Kijima would find a way to fill even a 1TB disk just to say that it's not enough space to get more publicity!

Didn't anybody tell him that when consumers buy a game they don't care how many GB's on a disk it fills, all they care about is how good the game is!!

I remember back in the day on the megadrive when sometimes they put on the front cover of the packaging "24MEGA BYTES" (or whatever figure it was) if that is the best selling point of the game, then I'd be worried about buying that game!

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phosphor112 - 380 days 20 hours ago

I came...

Future proof the PS3 is..

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The gaming GOD - 380 days 17 hours ago

I agree with you.

I have the ps3 and a stand alone player. But the ONLY reason I don't have a pc blu ray yet is because I too am awaiting the burners. Once the burners become available, then I'll have blu ray pc drives

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arika - 380 days 15 hours ago

with that much space they can put everything as in everything in it. like for example, if we have that technology right now the movie darknight on bluray can have a lot of extras like a full batman game related to the movie and they can even put batman begins in it too and a ton of features and extras or if it is a naruto series, they can put the entire 500 episodes in one disc. man oh man! being a ps3 owner keeps getting better and better. wooot! i'm loving it!

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psnDevistator356 - 380 days 14 hours ago

You can put entire game series on these disc. Entire tv series and movies all on one disc!!!

God I can't wait!!!

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mirroredderorrim - 380 days 11 hours ago

Wrong. 1TB PS3 in 2009!

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alexM - 381 days 10 hours ago

It is a blu Ray disc

Please be sure of that

so we might be seeing R3 in that 400 gig Blu Ray
Awesome news for SONY

also the disc is 14/10nm and hence much cheaper than BLU RAY to produce

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somekindofmike - 381 days 3 hours ago

Think of how much longer Kojima's cut scenes are going to be in MGS5 with a 400GB disk! :)

Don't hurt me, I love the MGS series, and it wouldn't be the same without the cinematic cut scenes, but I do wish he'd cut back a bit in some places.

With the PS3 using 400GB BD disks to 360s 9GB DVD then the PS3 could potentially have a huge advantage. but the key word is potential. so far not much has really used the potential of the 50Gb BluRay disks to really stand out from what the 360 can do.

& to the guy who said 400GB was overkill, you are very short sighted, I bet when you bought yours first PC you thought to yourself "wow 10 mega byte hard drive, I will never be able to fill this bad boy"

Think of the possibility of entire tv series on one disk in HD. and i'll be first in line for Star Wars in HD and at this rate it could be all on one disk.

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solidt12 - 381 days 2 hours ago

Yo, Imagine the game collections they could make with that space. The Full Final Fantasy collection could fit on one disc. That's FF1 - FF13 vs.

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LokMessier - 381 days 9 hours ago

For a variety of reasons spanning over a few games, SCIV being one of them (I'm sure many remember that) As well as quite a few other games [other than that one I can't remember off the top of my head, 2 AM here.]

Mainly when I say "Shaft" I'm talking about DLC "things" that should have been in the game in the first place, refer to SCIV. Not to be confused with developers adding extra songs, (As seen in RB2 as well as GH:WT).

[Apologies, not as coherent as I would be if the sun were up and if I had ample amount of sleep.]

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Steven Colbert - 381 days 9 hours ago

I agree with Lokmessier and Bladestar on this one.The SCIV should have been on the discs from day one while I agree with Bladestar that DLC is good as long as its lengthy and worthwhile like the Fallout 3 DLC

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Some_One_Plays - 381 days 9 hours ago

Examples would be Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots and to counter that I say Grand Theft Auto 4 with the downloadable content on the XBOX 360 console. Both games support both ideas.

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pwnsause - 381 days 8 hours ago

Both are right.

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kevin1112 - 381 days 6 hours ago

yea, first time ive actually agreed with you blade lol.

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skyfire2261 - 380 days 15 hours ago

Agree with your second statement there lokmessier. Just because some greedy publisher nickels and dimes it's own customers doesn't mean Digital Distribution is flawed. I'm pretty sure most of the content that became available for SCIV was already on the disk ( In other words you already paid for it) and Namco forced users to pay to unlock it which is of course BS. One reason i never bought the game.

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Some_One_Plays - 381 days 9 hours ago

lol, it's a Blu-ray disc so no there isn't going to be a new format, there won't be a new one for a long time.

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kopicha - 381 days 7 hours ago

take your fanboysium elsewhere. dont cry just because there is no improvements made for DVDs. whenever there is anything thats possibly and advantage to ps3 you will be trolling in that thread. if you dont like blu-ray then leave it alone and stick to your DVDs all you want and stop trying to think everyone else should think like you and make their choice base on what you think. the world doesnt evolves around you.

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Foxgod - 381 days 2 hours ago

thats not the point, its still a new blu ray disc type, i didnt say its a totally new disc.

point is it wont arrive until 2013, do you guys even realise how far away that is ?
do you guys realise that when its just released it wont be affordable just like that, new products are always expensive.

this post is fanboism BS

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paranoid1971 - 380 days 15 hours ago

read-only (ROM) discs in 2008-2010, rewritable discs in 2010-2012 and 1TB (1,000GB) disc in 2013, which means 400gb blu-ray disc possible available next year.

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bviperz - 381 days 9 hours ago

Mines too *sigh* why am I laughing about that...

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lokiroo420 - 381 days 9 hours ago

Like I said in the open zone, you can have simples extras like high quality video and audio, and maybe even multiple titles in sequence, how about a god of war trilogy disc.

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imdaboss - 381 days 8 hours ago

i really hope god of war 3 uses this make the game long and epic as possible. Make you fight every greed god, then turn around and fight every titan :)

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uckitsayitchbay - 380 days 21 hours ago

it is dead... you new around here or something yup blu-ray dead

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AuToFiRE - 380 days 20 hours ago

your obviously new around here, i have 2200 posts on the forums, bluray isnt dead, its just stretching its legs

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Foxgod - 381 days 9 hours ago

it says "can" though, and not that it will.
The earliest blu ray players arent compatible with todays blu ray standards.

By 2013 your obviously going to be needing a new blu ray player that can handle the standards.

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Foxgod - 381 days 9 hours ago

it isn't, space doesn't make a great game, its about the horsepower of the engine.

By 2013 the new wave of consoles will arrive, those will make the current line of consoles look like piss.

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Foxgod - 381 days 9 hours ago

did you know 2013 is +- 5 years from now ?
Did you know it takes several years until it gets picked up by the mainstream due price limitations.

So did you know this may not be widely used until like 7 years from now ?

Do you expect the ps3 will still be awesome when the ps4 and 720 have been around for almost three years ?

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somekindofmike - 381 days 3 hours ago

Do you really have nothing better to do then to bad mouth a piece of technology?

This gives the PS3 even more potential! but the key word is potential, lets hope we see this potential utilised in some awesome games.

Extra storage can mean better games, it means less limitations, more storage for hi res tectures, and many other potential improvements. However the key word is "CAN" take a look at the N64, the cartridges were pitiful in capacity compared to the PS1 CDRom Drive. But that didn't stop the N64 having some amazing games developed for it. Just get used to your repeated textures.

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Foxgod - 381 days 2 hours ago

dude, it doesnt give the ps3 more potential, that is the point.
its not out until 2013, i am pissed off that ps3 fanboys grab this post to hype their platform, its just a load of bull because it wont be around until 2013!!!!

do you know how far away that is, especially considering a console life span ?

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somekindofmike - 381 days ago

The Article Reads that by...

2010 to 2012 they will aim to make a 400GB Rewritable Disk,

By 2013 they aim to make a 1TB Disk,

It is 2008 now and they HAVE produced a 400GB Blu Ray Disk, I don't expect to see it in store tomorrow, but it's a possibility over the next few years it might happen.

Also as far as costs go, The readers are what cost money as in the CD laser, the DVD laser, the Blu Ray Diod (I think that's what they call it.) The actually disks are cheaps as chips. yes it will cost more than a standard Blu Ray Disk, but I still recon it would be more cost effective to put a game (if it was big enough) on one of these new disks than multi 50GB disks. I wouldn't be surprised if the packaging costs more to produce than the actual Blu Ray Disk, this would definitely be the case with DVD's (my educated guess)

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Foxgod - 381 days ago

they can hardly fill a 50 gb disc (proof is scene releases of ps3 games, lot of ps3 games are smaller then 20 gb.)

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somekindofmike - 380 days 22 hours ago

Ridge Racer on PS1 used something like less than 10% of the capacity of a CD, but by the end of the PS1 life cycle games like MGS and Final Fantasy were on multi disks.

I'm not here to say more GB's means better games! because that is not true, but it gives extra potential. Whether the developers step up to use that potential is what we'll have to wait and see.

I'm also like the potential of it as a film medium, entire trilogies on one disk in full HD. same with entire tv series. Not that this will dramatically change the experience from having multiple disks. But it is more convenient.

Also a 400GB rewritable Disk would of been useful for my final project at uni, as I had over 250GB of raw video footage to back up!

I can't predict the future and see if the PS3 will use this or not, but it's a facility which is there, maybe some games will utilise it, maybe they won't.

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lokiroo420 - 381 days 9 hours ago

Except that you can fill that space will hiqh quality video extras, higher quality sound, and many other things. All the space does not need to be used by the game. Not to mention bundling several games onto one disc, it would be cool to have a trilogy of games on one disc.

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sit down droid - 380 days 21 hours ago

fanboys to the extreme!! carry on droid =]

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Sanzee - 380 days 16 hours ago

77% of PS3 fans support their console by attacking their rivals.
34% of Xbox fans support their console by attacking their rivals.

If your losing a console war, what other choice do you have but attack your rivals? There is nothing good to say about your own console, so let's attack our rivals! Ok!

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