Miyamoto: Casual gamers will graduate and become hardcore

deeznuts - 401 days 19 hours ago

Yup.

I find a fallacy in the argument. How many people played tetris than graduated? How many women play the Sims then graduated to hardcore?

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Voiceofreason - 401 days 19 hours ago

You're assuming that what he means by hardcore is the same thing you mean by hardcore. Of course I see nothing on the PC,PS3,360 that couldnt be done on Wii or doesnt already have a game of the same genre to represent it. I can only assume that you mean bloody ultra violent games that contain tons of swearing and "mature" themes.That's really the only type of games the Wii lacks in atm, but no shortage of hardcore games. When he talks about hardcore he means gamers like me. Someone who isnt 14 and doesnt think that GTA4,GeoW is the only thing an adult would want to play.
To me the "Hardcore" crowd is the one playing MM9. Not the one playing LKP or CODW@W

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LeShin - 401 days 18 hours ago

@voiceofreason
Just curious, so you think Gran Turismo could be done on the Wii? or Metal Gear? or even Little Big Planet with it's online features and physics intact?

None of these games are ultraviolent, and I enjoy them.

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name - 401 days 17 hours ago

No one is talking about "swearing" or "mature themes". Hardcore games meaning games that don't resemble carnival games. Hardcore being the term because it requires more thought and skill. It offers a challenge and is obviously made for people who know the controls. The wii DOES have some hardcore titles, the main complaint(from in and out of the wii camp) is not ENOUGH hardcore titles. The hardcore titles that are available though are great. There just needs to be more.

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Drano - 401 days 21 hours ago

Have a bubble... But next time you do that, I'll have to kill you.

Jump Beyond.

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Pennywise - 401 days 21 hours ago

LOL - cool... thanks, have one back.

Wii - The gateway console to better consoles.

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Mr.Mister - 401 days 20 hours ago

cause he's just a regular everyday normal motherfocker!

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name - 401 days 17 hours ago

Actually, I've never been a casual gamer. The second I got my nes when I was little I played it nonstop and mastered every game I got from then on. I don't think I've ever been casual.

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GWAVE - 401 days 18 hours ago

Without the 1-year head start the 360 would have never sold. Without a built-in Blu Ray player the PS3 would have never sold and Blu Ray would have never won.

But the fact remains that all of those things DID happen. Live with it. The Wii sells like hotcakes despite the fact that it hasn't had a price drop (or major drop in sales, for that matter) for the entire 2-year lifespan. That's incredible no matter how you look at it.

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Voiceofreason - 401 days 19 hours ago

Why should they stop it??? Seriously why? It helped the PS1,PS2 to be number one in their gens... Why do you want to act like it is a bad thing now? Why is it ok for one console to have casual games but not another? The only difference is the company name... Why is LBP ok but Wii sports not? Why was it ok for Postman Pat,Power Rangers, and hundreds of other shovel ware titles ok on PS2 but its the end of gaming for it to be on the Wii? For once I would love for one of you kids going around making it sound so horrible to explain why it didnt bother just 2 years ago or more when it was on the PS2?

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Jotenks - 401 days 19 hours ago

I would not count Power Rangers as shovelware, but all though I do see it as bad in a sense I say have a "Control" over it in a way until some other titles come out. Within the PS2s library you can seperate/sift through some of the ones that are shovel all the way to the desirable, not so easily do-able on the Wii. Also I say this now because of what Miyamoto said "Graduate from Casual to hardcore" will if one is to do this and well if these alleged "Hardcore" people dislike the Wii for what it is now, will that mean that they will dislike it once they become hardcore and finally take a look at what games they are offered to play on their console of choice?

Also to answer the question about why it bothers is probably because of what I have stated in the previous paragraph above, you can sift through the good to the bad. I think why people dislike it is because of port after port after port. Many with just a waggle and a wiggle tacked on and not much else, or perhaps they just don't like the Wii for what it is? Just for clarification as well Shovelware does not always equal casual in my opinion. Though my post was more or less just a critique to what Miyamoto has stated and what has been seen about the various websites and what people have screamed for and wanted. Some type of control or strangle hold on what is happening now.

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Gorgon - 401 days 8 hours ago

You are right but the Wii is still lacking. I wanted to buy one but just realized that there was nothing on it that I wanted. Resident Evil 4 and Okami are excelent but they are available on the PS2. Sadness may never see the light of day and I have my doubts about its final quality. Cursed mountain looks great but I have no idea how good (or bad) it will be. I guess that Nanokuni will be the only know quantity of the bunch (and excelent at that).

So, 250 USD/EU for 3 games (or 2 if Sadness never makes it)? I certainly have no interest in anything else on the Wii. It is severily lacking in interesting games for my tastes (and notice I'm not talking about blood or gore or whatever).

I wanted to have a reason to buy a Wii, but Nintendo aint getting my money this gen.

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Wiimaniac - 401 days 22 hours ago

so true.

now in every interview nintendo is always predicting the future or talking about what game we should like... but who blames them? nintendo hit the jackpot with the Wii so, expect more of this.

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Voiceofreason - 401 days 18 hours ago

Yeah but by the time the PS3 can get to 199.99, the rest of the world will be playing on consoles that make the PS3 look as powerful as the Wii does now. I wonder though if people will really go for the last place console with the least amount of games, games like Lair and Haze and hell anything to come to PS3 even that stupid Rubadub game have been called AAA must own by Sony fans and when people see those poor games they'll think "this is what they call AAA?" and go right back to Wii and the highest rated game this gen or buy a 360 because 99% of the time games look and play better on it. Reviews prove it over and over with many games. Sony doesnt exactly have mainstream appeal. It being in last place also negates any response to that you may have so dont bother trying to argue it.

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cmrbe - 401 days 18 hours ago

you are one dumb xbot. Here is what you said "Yeah but by the time the PS3 can get to 199.99, the rest of the world will be playing on consoles that make the PS3 look as powerful as the Wii does now"

Yes you dumb idiot. You see the wii selling with PS2 graphics and cheap price?. By that time the PS4 and X720 or whatever will be out they will go for at least $399.

Miyamoto was referring to wii to current gen hardcore graduate. Not next gen hardcore.

Next time you argue with me. Make sure you use your whole brain.

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