Microsoft "wasn't in the right place" to buy Bizarre Creations

DA_SHREDDER - 467 days 1 hour ago

Im a total Sony fanboy,, but i just got gamefly and rented Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect. Them games are freakin sweet man. But other than them 2 titles, I really can say im not impresed by the rest of the 360's library. I have yet to play Lost Odesy,, or however you spell it. Ive played the demos to damn near every game,, I even bought Halo 3 and Gears,, and to me everything is pretty much overrated. I think xbox live is whats actually keeping the 360 alive. The os is pretty awesome, but its really slow.

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jmalc - 466 days 12 hours ago

Could... could Microsoft be running out of money to throw around??

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YoMeViet - 467 days ago

They didn't create those IPs, they bought them.

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Xi - 466 days 23 hours ago

They did create PGR and then hired bizzare to work on it, they didn't purchase the IP from them. MGS has a development team dedicated to creating IP's and finding suitable studio's to make them.

They bought bungie, and yes bungie made halo, however that's like saying sony doesn't make socom games, zipper does and they[sony] just bought everyone and their IP's.

Microsoft also owns a bunch of other liscense for games, like Crimson skies, mech assault, mech warrior, etc, they hire studio's like Zipper(before being purchased by sony) to make them. Smith and tinker are working on a wiesman liscense right now for MS. They hire studio's to work on them, they don't just buy IP's.

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ThanatosDMC - 466 days 22 hours ago

That's all i got.

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Ju - 466 days 14 hours ago

That's kind of odd. Because Bungie presented Halo on a Mac before MS got their hands on it. http://www.youtube.com/watc... So, that's hardly an M$ creation...

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solidt12 - 466 days 6 hours ago

Man I didn't know Halo was originally on the Mac. Knowing Apple they are still plotting a payback in some form. I have a G4 and I love it and the other Apple products seem to be selling very well. I think that Bungie made a good move though because now they are famous.

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shine1396 - 466 days 23 hours ago

as opose to you who is perfectly charming and doesn't need anger management lessons at all...arrogance and ignorance are just as bad as each other with the exception that ignorance is often innocent. I mean what if he really was just a kid or something...not saying that he is but what he was.

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Xi - 466 days 23 hours ago

Buy a developer and force them to produce the same game over and over?

Just look at Zipper and making nothing but socom games. Yeah, and sony does the same thing, sony SA will only do godOW games from now on, zipper Socom, other studio's might get 1 or 2 other projects then their normal game they're going to be forced to produced.

I'm glad bungie left MS, they were being held back, just like almost all developers working under EA/Sony/Activision-blizzard.

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Deviant - 466 days 23 hours ago

ehm did u forget halo? even bungie stated they are forced to work on halo projects.

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assassin223 - 466 days 21 hours ago

really because that's not what Richard Lemarchand from nuaghty dog said.

"IGN: There's obviously extremely good ties with Sony as well, but how does it affect Naughty Dog working with such a huge company?

Richard Lemarchand: It's really good, because we have this mutual trust with Sony, and we have very regular check-ins with them. They'll give us the latitude to really run on our own, which frees us up to work in this fast and loose way. It's great that they trust us -- I wish there was more of that in the industry generally. I think that it's got to come from both sides -- from publishers and developers -- but as those bonds of trust get stronger then developers are going to be able to take more risks and work towards more innovative types of games, once the publishers know that the developer is going to reliably deliver on time."

i thing you must have gotten Microsoft and Sony mixed up
beacuse Bungie's CEO Harold Ryan said that "Microsoft only saw Bungie’s continual Halo success translate into dollars, while Bungie saw Halo as “the baby of the studio.” In fact, as Ryan points out, “it certainly wasn’t our goal to make two more versions [of Halo.]” In another question he explains that the pressure to make more sequels was one of the key reasons why Bungie decided to seek its independence."

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Mr Fancy Pants - 467 days ago

gear's from epic
halo's from bungie
prgr's from Bizarre Creations

Microsoft = publisher

not the same as

zelda's from nintendo
or
GOW's from SCE Studios Santa Monica

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Xi - 466 days 23 hours ago

Halo is MS's IP, they owned bungie when they were producing halo, like sony owns SM.

What about all the rare titles that MS owns... because they own rare, same goes for their titles from.

These titles aren't just published. MS owns the IP's to gears and PGR, they can ask anyone they want to make them, instead they went to Epic and bizzare to make the game. That goes for any of the mech assault, mech warrior, crimson skies, titles they own too.

You're getting mixed up between titles like Mass Effect which is a title they published by ms, for bioware who owns the IP.

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Ju - 466 days 13 hours ago

The publisher usually buys the product incl. the IP from the developer. Well, most of the time. That way the developer usually gets a higher percentage. Some developer do not sell their IPs. Some publishers accept that. Gears was certainly Epics IP which MS has an exclusive publishing contract (I wouldn't even go that far, they owning it - maybe they do. But that's legal formal talk not much more). I would be very surprised, if they have an "IP invention department". That's not how things work.

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solidt12 - 466 days 6 hours ago

Microsoft makes no games. They buy games by publishing them.

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Mr Fancy Pants - 467 days ago

now i know why they support that console, they don't even know what they have in hands...

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elitewh0re - 467 days ago

geeze don't generalize all of us shredda,

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Xi - 466 days 23 hours ago

Microsoft went to gears and paid them to develop gears for the 360, this was being done during the creation of the 360. Epic and Microsoft collaborated on gears of war.

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Deviant - 466 days 23 hours ago

They went to gears to create gears .....anyways u are talking about third/second party exclusives i guess

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Xi - 466 days 23 hours ago

I can't remember.

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Xi - 466 days 22 hours ago

I think I miss read your post.

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Jason 360 - 466 days 23 hours ago

You can pretty much just copy and paste your comments from one topic to the next. Your like Zhuk, only he is the original, your just a copy.

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Jason 360 - 466 days 22 hours ago

Was I picking on your lover? I'm sorry didn't know you two were so tight, well one of you is tight anyway...XD

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Jason 360 - 466 days 21 hours ago

Give me another comment... Quick! oh... to bad, time to sign on to your other account.

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