No Dead Rising Wii, why Monster Hunter 3 went to the Wii, Dead Phoenix won't be rising from the ashes

Jamie Foxx - 537 days 9 hours ago

huge loss to the ps3 library, the sales on hardware alone would have been nothing short of astonishing in Japan,as a ps3 owner sony dropped the ball on that one

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Chubear - 537 days 8 hours ago

The PS3 is the only platform that gives development crews more options to how they develope games on the system. Developers, depending on their budgets, can choose to either:

Develope a tiny/small DLable games

Develope Large DLable games w/ the option of blu-ray options

Develope low budget disc games or

Develope high budget disc games

The second option could have been a very viable option if costs were a concern. That's jsut BS talk cause we all know Capcom was/has been lookin got stick it to Sony for some odd reason even when the fanbase suported the hell out of this game.

So PS fanbase helped establish it for you then you turn around and try to use it's popularity to lure away some of the fanbase to a competing console. That's disgusting!

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solidjun5 - 537 days 8 hours ago

...Svensson says. He talks out his a$$ all the time. "Multi-platform strategy" is what he likes to harp. Yea right.

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Panthers - 537 days 8 hours ago

They would have to really enhance it and upgrade it to bring it to the PSP. The Wii just cant handle that kind of power.

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kosha - 537 days 5 hours ago

Lol Panthers either you meant to say ps3 or you were being sarcastic

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Voiceofreason - 537 days 9 hours ago

The reason they did it simple. PLaystation is no longer the number 1 brand. You fanboys might as well get use to it, just like Nintendo fanboys had to years ago. This is nothing new and nothing to cry about. All you have to do is buy a console that isnt in last place with no signs of catching up. Also you already bought the most expensive one so price shouldnt be a problem. You had no issue paying 600.00 for a blu ray player. Paying 250 for a gaming console shouldnt be a problem.

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trikster40 - 537 days 9 hours ago

For a voice of reason, your comments sure don't belong in the gamer zone. I hate to tell you, but Playstation still is the #1 brand. The PS3 may not be the #1 console in Japan (it's #2) but the overall brand (PS3, PS2, PSP) still dominate sales. The PSP has been dominating the Wii for weeks now. Granted, this will change when (and if) Japanese people who do not already have a Wii (which isn't many) go buy one for MH3.

It really is simple financial reasons. I LOVE monster hunter, but they do not have a large budget for it due to the budget of RE5. It makes sense to put it on the Wii because they can develop it with the engine they used for the PS2 with some upgrades rather than starting from scratch. Will there ever be a MH for PS3? More than likely, but I am not counting my days.

As for Dead Phoenix, of the great Capcom 5, only 2 were any good (RE4 and Viewtiful Joe) so that game didn't stand much of a chance anyway.

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sidar - 537 days 8 hours ago

" The PSP has been dominating the Wii for weeks now"
*music stop*

edit: MH3 will surely push some/more Wii's(...its outselling alright but you get my point XD)
The amount of DS's sold and the amount Wii's selling.
To your logic shouldn't Wii be number one? if not then rephrase your sentence "please".

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BrotherNick - 537 days 5 hours ago

PSP dominating wii? Trickster those aren't even in the same category. Congratulations for twisting data to your own bias.

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trikster40 - 536 days 10 hours ago

How is me straightening out someone else's twisted words twisted myself? The guy above me said Playstation isn't the #1 brand. Between all 3 systems out, it is the #1 BRAND...not system. Would you care for me to compare the number of PSPs, PS2s, and PS3s sold in Japan to how many Wiis and DSs there are? All 3 of those Sony platforms are still supported and sell on a weekly basis. So before you go off accusing people of twisting facts to fit your needs, try to read a statement with an unbiased opinion. My statement sure wasn't biased but based on facts.

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kosha - 537 days 8 hours ago

Its all about where the money is not where you can make the best game (technology wise)

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PS360WII - 537 days 8 hours ago

best tech never equals best game.

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LastDance - 537 days 8 hours ago

but it surely does help;)

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Dark_Overlord - 537 days 8 hours ago

"best tech never equals best game"

Try telling that to Kojima :-)

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kosha - 537 days 7 hours ago

I did say technology wise and i do agree with the fact that just cause its on the most powerfull console doesnt automatically make it the best game. Just look at tetris thats still fun.

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BeNice - 537 days 7 hours ago

If kojima is such a brilliant developer who knows how to make a great game he would be able ot do it regardless of platform. By your thoery Metal gear solid 2 and 3 shoudl have been either on the game cube or the xbox and metal gear solid 1 should have come to the n64 since it had far superior graphical prowess.

Could someone answer my question as to why capcom should put millions of dollars into a ps3 mh3 so that it can make the gamble to see if their software sells systems? Isn't that a risk the console manufacturer has to take either through first party or second party games?

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Dark_Overlord - 537 days 6 hours ago

"best tech never equals best game is pretty darn true even when it comes to kojima"

So what your saying the most powerful console (technology wise) will never have any decent games until a more powerful one comes out????

WTF?

Examples:

MGS4
Ocarina Of Time
Halo 1
etc..

see what I'm getting at? By your 'logic' the games I listed above must have been sh*t because they came out on the most powerful console at the time.

What I'm guessing you meant to say is 'just because its built with the most powerful tech doesn't necessarily make it a good game'

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sidar - 536 days 21 hours ago

No stupid,
He is saying no matter what System Specs they have, a good developer(kojima in this case) can make a great game, no matter what system its on.
He used the PS2 simply because Ps2 was not the strongest Console that gen, yet it received these awesome games.

he was replying to this :
"best tech never equals best game"

Try telling that to Kojima :-) "

Because the best tech out there, that gen, wasn't the PS2( xbox had more power) and Kojima did manage making some awesome games on it.

Don't take stuff out of context =)

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trikster40 - 537 days 9 hours ago

Once again, wrong zone for comments like this. If you had a PS3, you would know this is not the case. There are some fantastic games on the system, more than the Wii has, yet I do not hear comments like $250 non-DVD player. Go spam your crap in the other zone.

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mepsipax - 537 days 8 hours ago

yeah real typical, PS3 owners insult wii owners, and everyone backs them up, but then a wii owner says something back and everyone goes "that comment belongs in the open zone" why the hell do people allege themselves to consoles anyway, you are morons, to deny that no good games come out on wii or PS3 or 360 or PC is just stupid, don't dismiss a game just because it's on the wii, I buy games to play games, if theres a game I want I get it, I don't just say "well I'm only gonna get a PS3 because I got a PS2 and PS1," well now you're missing out on some great games exclusive to other platforms, go ahead and do that but I'm sick of all the comments with anything wii related "wii sux and has bad graphix 360/PS3 rulez!!!XDXD" more than half the comments here belong in the open zone, real comments about the article aren't "it's stupid it's coming to Wii" why not discuss what the game could be instead of complaining about it.

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trikster40 - 536 days 10 hours ago

Dude, I didn't accuse, but tell me how a statement like "The "$600 blu-ray player" statement is so overdue." belongs in comments about Dead Phoenix being redeveloped and Monster Hunter going to Wii? It has NOTHING to do with the story at all. The guy doesn't even say he's a wii owner, I was just giving an example of insults that don't belong. I didn't state that example as truth.I could have said $350 RROD machine, or anything else. I HAVE a wii, and was just trying to state that comments that belittle or insult another platform or gamer don't belong in this zone.

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mepsipax - 536 days 9 hours ago

it wasn't really a stab at you more about the comments above you and N4G in general don't take it personally.

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LeShin - 537 days 8 hours ago

Absolutely right! Bubbles!

I'm not going to get mad at Capcom for not releasing it on the Wii as that would be stupid. I just won't buy Monster Hunter as I don't have the system it's getting released on.

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Ramzadel - 537 days 8 hours ago

It wasn't really a stab in the back, but knowing how many PS3 units this would have sold which makes me confused

On the Square issue, Square changed platforms because they wanted a different medium to use it on, if Nintendo didn't "back stab" Sony and went with Phillips instead of Sony on the CD manufacturing I'm thinking Square would have stayed with Nintendo, the Square issue is totally different than the MH3 issue

Like Capcom said production costs and getting a piece of the Wii pie was the motivation, the only thing is the Wii mote could be a motivational factor yet they didn't specify it in the article so I don't know, so in this case it's increasing profit substantially which is good business, but I am expecting MH4 to be made on the PS3 in the future or a newly built MH3 for the PS3 whenever the units sales gets to where Capcom thinks is satisfactory, which I think right now it's a good time bring a bundled game out, as that will sell a ton in Japan

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sidar - 537 days 8 hours ago

" if Nintendo didn't "back stab"
Honestly if a company says "we will have all the rights to your characters" would you do it ? XD

Its the same thing. They made a huge shift in their decision even knowing where their fanbase was =). The reason behind it is pointless.
They both left a place where money was guaranteed.

People think this is a backstab, but its not these companies do not make big decisions based on emotions.

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Ramzadel - 537 days 1 hour ago

"Its the same thing. They made a huge shift in their decision even knowing where their fanbase was =). The reason behind it is pointless.
They both left a place where money was guaranteed."

They did make a shift, but it was because cartridges weren't the medium they were looking for if Nintendo did do CD's they wouldn't have switched, so it wasn't the company who really caused the switched but the console maker.

Squaresoft took a huge risk in changing to the PSone, as opposed to Capcom where the Wii is an instant gold mine

" if Nintendo didn't "back stab"
Honestly if a company says "we will have all the rights to your characters" would you do it ?"

The fault was in Nintendo's lawyers in not looking over the contract before the Sony deal was done, so they laid their grave for that era with that mistake

"People think this is a backstab, but its not these companies do not make big decisions based on emotions."

Your preaching to the choir, it all comes down to business, even in pro sports where fans get hooked on one guy but sees him go even though he gave everything for that team, all I am trying to say is the Square issue and Capcom issue are very different

Note: Your avatar is awesome, it's from Reboot right? What was his name?

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sidar - 536 days 21 hours ago

And all im saying is that any company can do it no matter what the reason is.

That is Megabyte....bastards never continued.

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Nevers - 536 days 6 hours ago

had interesting and fun aspects in MP... yet still not enuf to hold my interest at all.

AND if you think the single player story was worth playing - you played an entirely different game than I did. Horrible/non-existant plot... Atrocious voice acting... Drab featureless environments for cuzscenes... I could list many more aspects I found HORRIBLE about Lost Planet!!!

Now if you disagree, NUT-UP and please explain your stance...

Now... to re-iterate... CAPCOM start workin' on my Dead Rising 2!!!!

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Nevers - 537 days 5 hours ago

we all know these business' are in it for sparkles and cherry flavored lolly-pops =]

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Xiru - 537 days 3 hours ago

System selling announcements? You mean Mario Party 25? The Wii doesn't have nor does it need system selling announcements. People buy the Wii because its the Wii. It has gained popularity by the media and word of mouth. There is no stopping it now. What shocking announcements have their been that make anyone want to go out and buy one? Its the PS3 and 360 that will have more system selling annoucements. And last gen control schemes? The Wii has a long way to go before its motion control is anything close to standardized. Most Wii games don't even use it right. There is nothing next gen about it. And a game like FF13 wouldn't come out for Wii. Loyalty has little to do with it. Square Enix likes to push technology, and the Wii offers nothing new in that aspect. They are rich enough from the remakes for DS anyway. Its a shame other companies don't have the money to really push technology, so they are going to make low quality games for the Wii. I can't wait to see what the "core gamer" announcements Nintendo has up its sleeve for this e3. This will be the last year I even watch the Nintendo keynote unless they really do have something good.

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Drakol - 537 days 3 hours ago

.. that MH3 will have outstanding sales with it being on the Wii. My only problem, as you have mentioned, is the cheap shot of saying "itz t00 exp3nsive!!" that Capcom claimed.

Maybe, just maybe one day there'll be a MH for PS3... and 360 =P

Right now, I'll enjoy my MH Frontier on mah PC... HAW HAW!

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