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Brawl Sequel may be Considered by Sakurai

The man behind Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Masahiro Sakurai has said he may have to consider a sequel to the popular game. Sakurai says like the two titles in the series before it Brawl was developed as being the last game in the series. In an interview with the UK Official Nintendo Magazine Sakurai has stated that he may have to consider the next title in the series.
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Published: 550 days 16 hours ago | News | Wii | Industry News
 
 

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mepsipax - 550 days 16 hours ago
1 - hmm..
wow, what a shock, nintendo making a sequel to one of it's games, wow, just wow, I can feel the cold rising up from hell, seriously though, great, give me more characters more levels, and better online and I'm there.
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Panthers - 550 days 15 hours ago
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Yea I wish better online.
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Voiceofreason - 550 days 14 hours ago
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I know why cant Nintendo be like every other company and only make original games.. I'll take FF18 GTA6,GOW5, and many other totally new IP's to hit this gen over garbage sequels any day.
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mepsipax - 550 days 13 hours ago
1.3 - wow jees guys
that wasn't a stab at nintendo, I'm thrilled, I want more smashing, it's just that to say there wouldn't be a sequel to a huge franchise like smash is just silly, voiceofreason, theres nothing wrong with a sequel as long as theres effort put into it, but all I'm saying is Nintendo hasn't made one new hardcore first party IP, this will hopefully change with E3 next week, last gen for IP's you had Pikmin, Luigis mansion, geist (ekk), so until Nintendo makes at least one new IP that isn't Wii something, shut up.
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deeznuts - 550 days 7 hours ago
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Voiceofunreason, you mention two third party games. God of War, yes first party. But Sony brings new first party IPs to the table a lot.

Call me when we have Kratos Kart.
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Eamon - 550 days 16 hours ago
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Now what I want, is a Super Smash Bros on DS.
Please Sakurai, make it happen!!
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iamtehpwn - 550 days 14 hours ago
2.1 - I've been asking for smash bro's DS
for a long time now. It would be perfect. And he wouldn't have spend 3 years doing it. =P
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Vespertine - 550 days 12 hours ago
2.2 -
Yeah, that would be pretty awesome.

I've wanted that ever since the DS came out.
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sidar - 550 days 9 hours ago
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HE already replied to it, saying he wont be doing it but if Nintendo feels like it they should make it( i guess without him xD)
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TwissT - 550 days 15 hours ago
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Just please make this sequel have L-canceling and more faster pace, because brawl is so slow.
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Isaac - 550 days 15 hours ago
4 - Uh, why not patch the current one?
To solve all of its issues. Oh that is right, nintendo probably does not even deal with games like that.

Anyway, another sequel? Why not make NEW IP instead? Or better yet, why not wait until the NEXT console? At least we might be able to tell the difference between the next and this one unlike this one and the last one.
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Voiceofreason - 550 days 14 hours ago
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No thankfully they ship them complete the first time. No need to risk bricking my Wii downloading a patch to make the game playable.Do you do anything besides troll the Wii news? Surely someone that hates Nintendo as much as you do could find better things to do. Like maybe helping the PS3 get a higher attach rate then Wii by buying games?
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Isaac - 550 days 14 hours ago
4.2 - Funny you say I hate nintendo
Just this week I bought FF3 for my Nintendo DS. I hate the Wii, not Nintendo. Besides, I hope for your own sake you are being sarcastic when you say that games or consoles ship complete with Nintendo, as you need a peripheral with every single game. The games ship complete? So why is playing Wii online garbage? The Wii would be patched if developers could do it, but they cant, which is sad for the Wii and its sheep, I mean, owners.

You know what is also funny? Attach rates. The wii has like, on average, .7 more games per owner than PS3. However, any idiot can conclude that the Wii is selling more on games than the PS3 out of that. If you actually analyzed though, the difference between 4.1 games on PS3 and 4.8 games on Wii is really not that much, especially once you factor in that games on PS3 cost 60, while games on Wii cost 50 or even less. So PS3 owners are actually investing 246 bucks on it, just on PS3 games (PS2 games or BD movies do not count) while Wii owners are spending 205 bucks. Poor Wii owners.

But hey, what matters to us as gamers is games, so how will this affect us? If you actually see what the Wii is selling and the PS3 is selling, the Wii is selling First party games and shovelware. PS3 on the other hand is selling lots of AAA games. For example, Call of Duty 4 has sold 3.5 million units on PS3. How much did it sell on Wii? Oh that is right, Wii owners were too busy playing garbage so Activision did not even bother with it, seeing how poorly the Wii version of call of duty 3 performed despite outselling PS3 2:1. So, as much as the Wii is outselling, it is not getting any games soon.

The Wii is so pathetic that even being the cheapest console and already having shot most of its rounds (Mario, metroid, zelda, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Smash Bros), not a single user is investing much in the console, and much less on third party games, especially the AAA ones (No more heroes, manhunt, bloom box), which is very telling. What is there to look forward to on Wii? More children games? More grandma games and non-games? Oh, the single good looking game which is made by Sega... sorry, I am not making a line for a single game.

If the Wii had achievements or trophies with each and every one of its mini-games, I would have already bought one, especially if I did not have to line-up and buy PSN or XBLA games for the price of disc games. Anyway, call me when the Wii is widely available, it is 150 (what it is worth), has plenty of AAA games and a decent online service. You keep trying to lose weight on Wii will I go to an actual gym and then relax with MGS4.
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Isaac - 550 days 10 hours ago
4.3 - Funniest of all
I am being disagreed with because this news story is obviously full of Nintendo apologists that can not see beyond their fanboyism, I feel so sorry for you lemmings, you are paying too much for something worthless.
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sidar - 550 days 9 hours ago
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There are only 3 Smash games ever developed....and you pretend this is number 10000 in the series.

Also Nintendo did not came up with this idea, Sakurai did.
( he also made Kirby....lets say he is from HAL.lab/Sora inc)

Also you love playing all those SEQUELS yet you cry for new Ip's from Nintendo.
just STFU =D

Isaac, you always say such things at the end.
You think your opinion = fact...
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KeiZka - 550 days 9 hours ago
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Clearly we all must think like your hivemind says us to do... not. You may think that Nintendo games suck, Wii sucks yadda yadda. Then there are people who disagree with you! What a shock! What an horror!

But honestly, if we are to talk about investments... What do they mean? Dedication? Hardly. You are generalizing quite a bit there. Did you know, Sony had this funny habit of bundling two games with their console for quite a long time. What do we get out of this? Less sales. Suddenly they didn't invest that much, at least in the beginning. Meanwhile, has anyone bothered to count how much people have invested in accessories? There goes your theory.

Call of Duty 4 wasn't even released on Wii. At the same time, GH3 was. Guess what? Selling most on Wii, due to biggest install base. See where the developers tend to go: after a fickle market that may doom you if they don't sell (PS3, X0 to some extent) or Wii, where there's aplenty of install base, and lesser developing costs anyway?

And say what you will about "big shots", they are what one perceives them to be. My list is a tad longer than that. Yours seems to be that small.

Also, I seriously hate your condescending attitude. I'm not scot free of it (I do it all the time), but yours just annoyed me to no point.
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TheFreak - 550 days 15 hours ago
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hmm why the hate against nintendo for making a sequel? I dont see other devs getting yelled at for making sequels. Like mgs series, call of duty, gta, final fantasy and so on....
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iamtehpwn - 550 days 14 hours ago
5.1 - Agreed. There are a lot more MGS and FF games
then there will ever be Smash bros. games.

So, who cares if it's a sequel. I bet you bought MGS4, and you'll be buying Final Fantasy XX, Cod5, 6, 7, 8, 9, Guitar Hero 9000, etc etc. years from now.

It's not a bad thing though. Sequels are just the nature of the industry.
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deeznuts - 550 days 7 hours ago
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Sequels are fine. But if that's all you get ...
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phantomexe - 550 days 15 hours ago
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Theres a big difference,I never got into the gamecube 1 much,but this new 1 kicks ass
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phantomexe - 550 days 15 hours ago
7 - online
I'm with ya on the better online tho.voice chat would of been nice.
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Bigrhyno - 550 days 15 hours ago
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I love Super Smash and would love a sequal, but wait until the next console when (hopefully) Nintendo has a better online service... playing Brawl online makes me cry.
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Eamon - 550 days 13 hours ago
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I agree, it should come on the next nintendo console because the graphics are just awful compared to 360/PS3 games.
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sidar - 550 days 9 hours ago
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>_>
Onlinse systems for Nintendo's online service can be programmed to any developers likings.
FC can be avoided, Majesco and EA proved this.

Its just Sakurai who didnt come up with a solid online system for brawl.
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KeiZka - 550 days 9 hours ago
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Eamon. That "GFX tit, gfx tat" is getting stale. New arguments? Too hard?
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Eamon - 549 days 21 hours ago
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KeiZka, I wasn't arguing =S
I was simply stating what I truly think. I would rather see the next SSB in beautiful "next-gen" graphics than in last-gen graphics again.
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Leafs117 - 550 days 15 hours ago
9 - Super Smash Bros Melee 2.5
Brawl was basically an expansion pack for melee...it just had more characters, new levels, and a crappy "map creator." Brawl got boring really fast because I've basically had it since I bought Melee a few years ago. I doubt they even have the ability to release a true sequel (because the Wii is basically a NGC,) so I think they will wait until the next Nintendo console to release a SSB sequel. It sucks because my Wii is just collecting dust while my PS3 and 360 are getting a lot of playing time...you can only play SMG, Metroid 3, SSBB, and LoZ: TP so many times until they get boring D:
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Voiceofreason - 550 days 14 hours ago
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Another troll... How many sequels were on the PS2? God of War 2 ring a bell? Or the 3 or 4 Final Fantasies on the console? Truth is they did a true sequel. And you wouldnt have any problem with it if it was a true sequel on a Sony console. You can only play any game so long before it gets boring, even PS3 and 360 games. Of course logic and common sense never come into play with you trolls. If SSBB,LOZ,Metroid, and SMG got old so quick, how is MGS4, GTA4 and... Oh thats right nothing else big on Sony's PS3.. SO how did those 2 games keep you going back for 2 years but 6 games has one console collecting dust, hell those two games just came out for PS3 so it must have been collecting a ton of dust over the first year and half with no major titles.
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Isaac - 550 days 14 hours ago
9.2 - Yes, there were sequels
However, the sequels actually had differences between them, especially the ones that jump from one console to another. Brawl is simply Melee 1.5. Nintendo could have simply saved you buying another console and simply bundle the Wiimote with every new gamecube sold and give old gamecube owners like me a rebate, but no, they had to sh1t on the gamecube fanbase by selling a console that could not be less powerful because it was impossible for Nintendo to invest anything less in research and development; that is, they are reselling you the gamecube. And people wonder why the new games for Wii resemble a little too much to Gamecube games, except with gimmicks and less AAA games. The gamecube was actually a better console in terms of games.
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mepsipax - 550 days 13 hours ago
9.3 - holy christ
okay brawl took like what? 3 years to make, do you actually think we'll get brawl a brawl sequel on the wii, unlike Sony and M$ nintendo doesn't release a lot of sequels, think about it guys, in 12 years how many mario 3d platformers have there been, 3, thats it, and no sequels were ever on the same console, as for 3d zelda, that gets confusing, you could say that there were two zeldas per console, because the 64 had two, and the gc had 2, but has the wii had it's own zelda yet? seeing as TP on wii was just a port, anyway the point is, Nintendo's sequels are different, for those that played Oot on 64 and then played Majora's mask, nobody can say they are the same, sure same graphics, same characters, a few same items, but the game plays differently, oh and can one of you tell me how, GeoW 2 is going to be completely diffrent from GeoW 1, or how the GoW series has been diffrent from each other, so to deny that the nintendo makes bad unoriginal games is just stupid stop being a fanboy and just play games, sure I hate the wii and what it stands for, but I can't deny there are loads of games I play on it that are amazing, all you're doing is denying yourself the enjoyment of these games.
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superman - 550 days 14 hours ago
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Like Halo 3 was Halo 2.5. Right ?
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iamtehpwn - 550 days 13 hours ago
10.1 - At least Brawl
was a damn decent 2.5 :D

Now Halo 3...lol.
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jeffaustin90 - 550 days 13 hours ago
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I don't know if they'll be ABLE to fix the online lag portion, but I sure as hell think that they can fix the options part of it. Give us the option to let us see who we're facing. Let us create Random rooms with our own options and give Randoms the choice of selecting what type of room they would like to join (probably based on a few select options, such as Stock and number of lives, and Time and number of minutes). Let the room's host decide the rules for Items and let that rule actually STICK (or at least give us the option to allow this choice).

I'm not sure if they can totally eliminate the lag or not. Smash Bros is a fighting game which demands real-time movements, as opposed to something like Mario Kart online where the outcomes of various movements can be pre-determined. It's not just Brawl that has problems online on the Wii. Just look at Budokai Tenkaichi 3, another fighter which is plagued with lag, to a point where it makes you wanna stick to playing offline.

For the updates to the offline section for the next Smash game, the obvious choices are to increase the number of playable characters and stages. But they need to add something MORE to the multiplayer. That's Smash's bread and butter. Let's face it, the 1-player mode of Smash games has never been its selling point. Yes, they tried to make it great in Brawl, but the multiplayer is what people love best. Smash Bros is not known for having great 1-player stories, leave that to other games.
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iamtehpwn - 550 days 12 hours ago
12.1 - and thats why
you have 2 bubbles. =]
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KeiZka - 550 days 10 hours ago
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I haven't seen Pikmin, Starfox, Animal Crossing, F-Zero, Kid Icarus or hell, Punch-Out! on Wii yet. (And now that I think about it, Punch-out and Wii. What a combination would that be? Neat-o!)

The list of IPs Nintendo really has is quite staggering in the end...
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tucky - 550 days 10 hours ago
12.3 - KeiZka
... and I hope we will never see them. Please, is there any developer on earth able to make something for this poor wii ? It's the first time I try that serie (super smash ...) and I must say "Oh my god": 1/10 not more. WHAT CAN PEOPLE FIND IN THIS GAME !!!! IT'S A COMPLETE MESS.
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sidar - 550 days 9 hours ago
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@tucky
Because you are not able to understand how you actually get good at this game, is not a reason to bash it.

The smash series are solid and have more depth then one would think the moment he just started playing.

The fact this is your first...yeah well you missed out allot.
You dont like this game fine....thnk you for sharing that.
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KeiZka - 550 days 9 hours ago
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Then don't go around proclaiming yourself as gamer. Smash as games, while they don't look that deep, are actually surprisingly deep. Every character, clone or not, plays out differently in the end (one has more agility, yet less strength. And vice versa).

And if you don't want to see the next reiteration of F-Zero (for they are THE "hardcore" racing games out there), you are only losing out. Much. But be a conservative person with a closed mind. Yes, it'll do well to live in your lovely little bubble, where the evil world and new things never get to you... That's what you like, isn't it?
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gumgum99 - 550 days 9 hours ago
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a sequel could be done in theory. It just has to be full for quality and not just quanity. I respect Sakurai's intentions; after all, most sequels are nothing but full of more this and that. We could sure use a new game from somewhere, so that these Wii owners can stop whining

go DS sequel ^_^
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Hellangelzx - 550 days 9 hours ago
14 - If they do make a sequel
Which the probably will, I hope they get rid of the crappy Brawl Physics. Thats the main reason I hate brawl, physics blow much.

Bring back Melee physics!
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phantomexe - 550 days 7 hours ago
15 - group hug for the ps3 guys we got hosed
wait wait wait nintendo still has a crap load of franchises left to release this gent.I don't understand why ps3fanboys post here....i mean if i want to talk about killzone i'll post on the ps3 side of the forms.Why bash anything nintendo?I know why you ps3 fanboys are mad.Your mad for the same reason i am. We payed way too much for the ps3 and it never delivered face it we got hosed.I mean we get xbox ports nothing really new and we get a sony corporation that can't come up with anything new on there own.I have all 3 systems and really its my ps3 collecting dust.I'm happy as hell with the wii this gent and the 360 but i look forward most to the future of the wii.Games are looking better then it started with.Still alot of shovelware around but still look at the games due to come out and E3 not here yet.I'll admit nintendo online kind of sucks but i have a feeling its going get better.WII60 is still the way to go.
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Jink - 549 days 20 hours ago
17 - This is a good opportunity for...
...Nintendo to use that "Quantum engine" for the next SmashBros. to look more AWEsome than it looks now, but downfall Brawl had was its LAGFULL online play. that should be they're main consideration.

MarioKartWii is perfect in online, "never lags", but Brawl's was unplayable.
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jeffaustin90 - 548 days 11 hours ago
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Technically they were 2 completely different types of online systems. MKW's online didn't really allow for the same kind of lag as Brawl's, but it wasn't meant to have as many intricate moves as in Brawl.
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