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Beauty is skin deep: Calling out the graphics pimps
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There is a term among the gamer community the describes a certain subsect of gamers interested only in how impressive a game looks -- "graphics whores." These are people who get excited over how a game looks more than how it plays, and will easily dismiss any title that isn't up their visual standards.
Just like there can be no smoke without fire, so too can there be no whores without pimps. These are the people that justify the shallow judgment of a title based purely on aesthetics, mainly because that is how they are selling their games. Prompted by the recent resurgence of Killzone 2 talk, I decided to voice my feelings about the "graphics pimps," and why I am sick and tired of hearing about how great a game looks.
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Rick Astley
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LOL Killzone 2 ftw. I cannot believe how crazy things are getting. People weren't expecting it to look so good and now that Guerilla have proven themselves they're all like "gameplay > graphics". Man this is great stuff.
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BrotherNick
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Could anyone link me to a review of someone playing KZ2? I'm curious because it may be a future purchase if what you say is true.
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Fishy Fingers
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http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...
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Sounds good from those impressions.
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No, but you don't get to test the gameplay before you buy it (if Day 1), all we get is screen/video's which give you an idea but visual are what you many have to go on (or hands-on's but thats opinion to).
I love the media, you wait until the Gears trailer is released later, you think its the gameplay every site will be banging on about, nope, that'll be the GRAPHICS or "beauty" in the case of the article.
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BrotherNick
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I thought gears controls weren't that fun, I guess I liked the simplicity of Halo More.
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3 - Graphics 60%, Gameplay 40%
The ultimate game delivers both and to a good standard - GTA IV or COD4 for instance.
If you don't like games with good graphics but bad gameplay, DON'T PLAY THEM!
Some people just whine and whine...
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Look at the comments on destructoid.com, Jim is being bombarded with a lot of spiteful comments, what is with the stigma the PS3 brings? Killzone 2 as it stands right now is the most graphically advanced game we've seen, possibly even on par with Crysis.
I know people will bring up the original Killzone, I've looked into it and saw that Sony actually owns the IP now, and I think they have over 100, 150 people working on this right now? As far as I'm concerned this game is a total over haul of its predecessor.
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just another hater, dont worrie about what sonys doing b!tch.
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Some_One_Plays
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6 - Anything Relating To Sony Must Be Bad?
Everything that comes out exclusively on a Sony platform some journalist comes out with a negative write up relating to it. So when Crysis came out exclusively to the PC (Personal Computer) I didn't hear much about graphics aren't everything.
As soon as Killzone 2 surpasses the targeted pre-rendered video something comes out saying graphics aren't everything. In reality graphics is just as important as gameplay. The one catch is that graphics doesn't hold its own but gameplay can. Look at Turok so much people said it looked ugly but the gameplay is there. Look at Crysis compared to Turok which one would you play first?
Graphics = better hardware = more sophisticated worlds = 50% of experience
Gameplay = changed due to graphics = 50% experience
Graphics can change gameplay so better graphics means a more sophisticated world. Look at Super Mario World to Super Mario Galaxy, big difference.
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yamamoto114
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Of course a CERTAIN level of graphical prowess is necessary to make a game enjoyable. But Nintendo isn't spending 75% of their effort on graphics like other companies. They made a great game with passable graphics, not BRILLIANT graphics with insane aftereffects, but at that one perfect sweet spot where they're good enough that no one notices or cares how good it looks, because everything is coherent and the art style is expressed.
And yes, you're right. No one blathered on about how Crysis was all graphics and no game. Because, for the most part, no one cared about Crysis. It received very little attention after release.
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Some_One_Plays
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How much do Mario games sell on the TV / Home consoles? Killzone 2 is getting attention because of its graphics. Look at the Turok reviews that game is great buy many people don't think so because of the graphics.
Games are played in third person just like watching a movie so graphics are just as important as game play. If you don't think so you can play PlayStation 2 version of next generation games if you think graphics don't play an important role.
The one think you'll notice with insane graphics the game play is very different. Look at Gran Turismo 5 to Mario Kart, Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction to Super Mario Galaxy, or Motor Storm to MX vs. ATV Untamed.
The game play is dramatically different and so are the graphics even though they're in the same genre. Killzone 2 to Halo 3 these games are so far apart it's not even funny.
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Graphics are hella important. Of course, the game will still suck without good gameplay (Lair, as a legitimate example). But graphics push a game with great gameplay into superstardom (see CoD4 Gears of War, Uncharted).
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I can't belive the media, if sony does not deliver on their promise they get bash. if they do deliver on their promise, they still get bash.
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Its called:
Your damned if you do, and your damned if you don't.
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Gameplay first...
Graphics second.
If you REALLY think about it, many of the best games ever made didn't wow you with their graphical prowess (you didn't come back to them again and again for the pretty images) but with their fantastic gameplay.
Seriously, think about it.
That doesn't mean graphics aren't important, but should be secondary to gameplay.
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Like KotOR and Okami.
GAMEPLAY > GRAPHICS. We should make bumper stickers that say that.
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Game play is uber important, but having graphics this good allows gaming to be passed over as an art form so much easily.
After games like gears of war 2, and killzone 2 show what graphics can do for this generation, it will be hard to deny that games are just as graphically stunning as they are moving.
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i heard they are making a porn called killbone
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13 - I hope this is just the start
We've heard rumors of other games in development that leave people speechless.
I hope PS3 produces many more games that will make us proud to be graphic whores.
Suddenly, the next knock on the PS3 will be that they're making games look too good.
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That's already happened.
Refer to: "Uncanny Valley"
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WOW has over 10 Million members and it has never struck me as graphically impressive. Without good gameplay great looking games are nothing more than cut scenes you have the chore of controlling yourself.
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Here is my issue with many of these Graphics whores. Gameplay is hands down the most important factor in a game imho. Echochrome,Boom Blox, Portal, Everyday Shooter and insert innovative game here. May not compete with Call of Duty or others but have some amazing replay in all of them. A game that teaches you to think outside the box and figure it out to me is more important then twitch reaction. I love COD, GTA, Bioshock and uncharted even though they can all be very very repetitive where as the above mentioned games are quite the opposite. I guess my point is without graphics you can have a very very good game. Bejeweled for example. You can have amazing graphics and fail due to horrid gameplay. Lair or Two Worlds... Really bad games. Gameplay is everything first and needs to take priority. That is where so many people fail. Haze looks decent but from the demo I played I will not buy it. If reviews are good i will but from my impressions its weak and shallow. Heavenly sword on the other hand had variety, control and some very innovative moments it was beautiful but leave it to some to cry about length... most gamers don't care for new IP's anymore or innovation all they want is something pretty and mindless as opposed to something innovative and unique... Hence why a game like Halo does so well over a game like Boom Blox... I digress as I am sure to get flames to hell. For those who enjoy watching the industry grow in new ways I know your with me in this but those who only want the creme of the crop(Graphics whores) I feel don't even deserve to be here on this website.
My dinner is done or I would keep going. Anyway Game on!
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16 - man i gotta to tell ya'll
im so glad i dont own a gun......seriously. its so tempting to just do something stupid, when you witness absurd stupidity....
when the 2005 trailer was shown, No one, and i mean, NO ONE said SH!T about gameplay. THE BIG SH!T TALKING was about how the PS3 can never accomplish such graphics....
AND NOW that they've proven that it not only can, but IS DONE.... so its all of a sudden about GAMEPLAY.... and when the GAMEPLAY matches or surpasses everything we currently have.... IT will be criticized because SOMEHOW it will lack INNOVATION....... and if it does INNOVATE, THEN it will be crucified because even with all the GRAPHICS and GAMEPLAY and INNOVATIONS, it failed to suck the GAMER'S d!ck......
hating b!tches will always be hating b!tches, period. it's like one day, they say, "you'll never land a girl like mines" and the next day you f*ck his wife, and he goes, "oh yeah, oh yeah.... well you didnt do her doggy style"..... so the next day, you do her doggy style and tape it, and he goes "oh yeah, oh yeah....well at least you didnt.. do her missio----BAMMMMM!!!!" you punch the sh!t out of him, and knock him the f*ck out....and that's trully they only way to show off a hater..... but let's not do that....it's not that serious....it's just N4G....
But man....some of those f*ckers really work my patience......
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