New Details on Uncharted: "Only using 30% of SPU's"

Christophe Balestra, Co-President of Naughty Dog:

The main thing about the PlayStation 3 is the Cell processor and more specifically the SPU's. We are only using 30 percent of the power of the SPU's in Uncharted. We've been architecting a lot of our systems around this and we were able to take full advantage of that power. A big part of our systems is running on SPU's: scene bucketing, particles, physics, collision, animation, water simulation, mesh processing, path finding, etc. For our engine, the cool thing about having the SPU's is the fact we can minimize what we send to the RSX (the graphic chip), it allows us to reject unnecessary information and get the RSX to be very efficient.

[Altis1]

of devs saying they are only using a small percentage of a systems power. This just makes them look like they are unable to harness a system true power. This goes to both PS3 and 360 devs.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

don't know how u got a disagree but I agree w/ you

[Azures]

Guess what, they won't be able to use its full potential for a long time. Look at the PS2 with God of War 2, that game represents the pinnacle of that system's potential and it just came out earlier this year. The PS2 released in 2001.

[Close_Second]

The PS2 was released in 2000...and is still going strong!

Who hit disagree? Sales for PS2 hardware and software are still extremely healthy and the console was released in Japan in 2000.

I wish people would use more than 30% of their brain when using this site.

[mikeslemonade]

But they are using the power of the PS3. As long as they make a game like Uncharted which is visually more than impressive than any other game and probably tied with Gears, then it doesn't matter if they harness the true power because it's still too early to do that.

[marinelife9]

No developer is able to harness a systems entire power the first few times out. Practice makes perfect.

[Danja]

GeOW has been surpassed graphically by every PS3 exclusive...it had good graphics for it's time..now lets move on....ever heard of

HS
R&C
Lair
Motorstorm...??

yup they all looked better than Gears

[Snukadaman]

you also threw in the 360 but it dont matter...one bad word and its one less person that buys that junk.

[AKS]

"This just makes them look like they are unable to harness a system true power."

The Uncharted demo certainly made it look like they DID understand how to harness the system's power. But they seem to be of the opinion that they can eventually improve on that (I'll have to see it to believe it; Uncharted was among the most impressive games I've ever seen as far as power and game development skills).

[Genki]

It takes time to fully harness anything. It speaks about the complexity of the architecture, the efficiency, and also how voluminous the amount of power is.

If you think that people should be taking full advantage of any processing architecture right out of the gates, then you must believe that Rome was built in a day.

Yeah, it is a pretty petty marketing tactic to make such declarations, but it's not indicative of a lack of ability on the developers end, thatis if you believe it anyway. Take this stuff with a grain of salt, it's all politics after all.

[JsonHenry]

They cut out the part that says "We would use the other 70%, but there is sadly a lack of RAM and it would bottleneck anyway.."

This goes for EVERY console ever made. Not just the PS3. What is the ONE thing Devs ask for on a console and never get? A decent amount of RAM!! Why the hell can't the big three pull their heads out of their asses and give the devs the ONE thing they ask for in a system more than anything?!

[Twist96]

I believe that Microsoft upgraded their RAM from 256mb to 512 when the Gears dev asked for it...it cost about a billion dollars, ha ha. But we see results.

[MaximusPrime_]

im not surprised.

EA could have done better with N4S: Prostreet. it probably using less than 5% of PS3 power. Maybe they will improve in the near future.

[ruibing]

This is what separates quality developers from the rest who just whines. These guys were able to create a brand new engine from scratch, switch from LISP to C++ to help other PS3 developers later on, and create an amazing solid title that is unlike anything they made before.

As a computer engineer, I would really love to read some white papers detailing some of the techniques they use.

[X_GAMER_X]

All hype..why cant they make a good game without all that hype?
Thats why they flop
AKA liar

[Blood_Spiller]

I have a strong feeling you haven't played the Uncharted demo yet.

[Danja]

LOL..i guess he never played JAK either on the PS2..ne ways this game looks stunning and compared to what 360 games looked liked in it's first year the PS3's future is looking ultra bright...

"YOU MAKE IT SEEM SO DIRTY"....UNCHARTED...ND. .FTW..!!!

[AKS]

Yeah, I agree with Blood_Spiller. You need to check out the Uncharted demo before you make such statements. I know people who despise Sony to the core who gush about this game after they played the demo. It's a sight to behold, especially if you're keen on animation, lighting, AI, and gameplay.

[BestGamerAlive]

listen when da developers need 2 use all the power they will and it will lead 2 more innovative games just like Uncharted PS3 DA BEST

[ben hates you]

spell beyond

[picker332]

I wondring what the games look's like if they used 100% of the power.
I'll say this on ps3 not 360,Not that i want to start a war here but the 360
almost use 100% of the power already.

[OpiZA]

Not even close there man.

I love how something so complex (PC, 360, PS3, ect) can be represented by a solid percentage... Makes no sense

[Proxy]

I read that GoW on 360 only used a small portion of it's processing ability. I don't think either system will ever be held back by processor power.

[ben hates you]

spell beyond

[mark09]

actually the devs of GOW have said they pushed the system to its limits.

[dhammalama]

Does that make sense?
I definitely agree that neither console uses close to it's full potential, though.
I think even when one does it will only be a matter of optimization to get the same code to run at a higher efficiency and thus use less of the console's full power.

[Darkiewonder]

Not new. I read about the 30% Bit a week or so ago.

[Bnet343]

he is second party for sony so they will say anything to hype this game up and the PS3

[jackdoe]

First party. Naughty Dog is owned by Sony.

[Bolts]

Buy a clue, Sony does not own Naughty Dog anymore than Microsoft own Bioware.

[Bnet343]

Well the point is things like this adds hype for the developers game.

[PirateThom]

Naughty Dog is a Subsidiary of Sony, they bought them over in 2001.

from the Naughty Dog website:

"In 2001 Naughty Dog became a wholly owned subsidiary of Sony Computer Entertainment,...."

So, you know, get a clue or something.

[jackdoe]

Not new details. Already explained.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

Only used 30% of the PS3 power? Then they should be F*cken fired. The PS3 needs a game that uses ALL it's power.

People who say this, are only using 30% of their brain.

[MaximusPrime_]

true. but they are probably pressured to finish the game on time for release

[Neo-Delta]

Yeah, I'm sure devs are gonna jump from 40% to 100% in less then a year - good one. DO you even know what the cell is? ITs so far ahead of its time, 100% would probably be next to impossible at the moment.

[Ju]

Go and fix it then, if you can do better. I think they have quite achieved something with their "just 30%" first PS3 game.

[SmokeyMcBear]

jack@ss strikes again... uh you know that little game called god of war 2.. pretty much the utilized everything that the ps2 can give... well yeah.. it came out 6 years after the ps2 launched... kids these days are all gimme gimme gimme... its take time for perfection, just the simple fact that games like uncharted are coming out a year after the system launched and are only utilizing a portion of the computing power available.. just stop gaming man, so something better with your life instead of trolling.

[Shankle]

Do you realise that if a person was using 30% of their brain at once they'd probably have a seizure?

[vilmer]

You can't magically tap into the full power of the PS3 overnight. It will take a while, but hopefully not!

[I Call 9MM]

Well, they never said they were using 30% ofthe PS3's power, just 30% of what all the SPU's can do in a game. The Cell processor is so far ahead of it's time that it will be a few years before it get's truly utilized. It's just too bad that the PS3 uses up so much RAM for running everything it has to in the background. But, it will give the fanboys on both sides something to argue about for years. It's always going to be that RAM is the PS3s biggest problem. Uncharted looks great, and it's only 30% SPU utilization. Wow. (PS I own a 360 and not a PS3, but it only matters what side has the best games to me. Uncharted looks to be a nice step up for Sony. Bring back a PS3 with near-full backwords compatibability and I'll be onboard soon).

This is a little off topic here, but I'm surprised that no console maker has given their console the ability to accept a RAM expansion module since the N64, and that expansion pack did pretty well back then. Bundle extra RAM with a game that everyone will buy and it will surely make it's way into the user base in no time. Oh well.

[season007]

SEGA SATURN DID have a memory expansion card =)

[games4fun]

i thought that since the ps3 has 4 usb ports you could make a huge a$$ add-on that uses all four usbs for power supply and then sends in a lot of ram like 4x as much to completely blow away your competition making your game run ridiculously well and look good doing it. And make sure the add-on only works with your games or they have to pay licensing fees good way to control the market could possibly do the same with xbox360 too.

[Bleyd]

used to freeze up the game on me. I couldn't play with it while it was installed. Perhaps the console makers learned their lesson on that one and tried not to introduce too much user modification that could end up doing real damage to the console.

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

We need to be educated on Ram cause this is where next gen consoles fall short so often.
The Dreamcast The Xbox the PS2!if any one of these systems had at least 512 or 386MB of Ram We wouldn't even be that impressed with these next gen systems ..

If the PS3 had more Ram (512MB Video)games like Crysis would be easily done and be better on the PS3.1080p would be normal on all games.
But It seems cutting corners on hardware assumes that devlopers to find trick to ballance memory usage which results in untapped potential on consoles!!
Which means less long term support.

Ram is MAXED out already!!!

Analogy
Having the greatest creators and just giving him a few pages to write on or a few roles of film to tape or one canvas to create is BULLShtttt!

Very Pathetic SONY ! and Microsoft..

[xg-ei8ht]

From what i've read recently, the caching from the hd/ and the use of blu-ray,etc, is fine, because although for a pc game, 512mb(without os ok) should be fine.

Gears and uncharted uses texture streaming, as does RFOM 2. Even then you don't need very high rez textures like pc, i much prefer, normal mapping etc. Adds life to objects.

But for uncharted, they are streaming straight from the blu-ray to hd and compressing textures on the fly with a spu. Thats pretty sweet.

My only concern is, as they are using hd, could that make some games choppy. from caching etc.

Maybe thats the actual problem with some ports?

[WisinYandel]

Why dont you just make a game that uses 100% of PS3 power?

[Blood_Spiller]

You people are seriously missing the point here.

[Neo-Delta]

One simple answer - They can't! The cell is so high tech, they're still getting to grips with it.

[Armyless]

Learn what that means!

[blaze_34]

Holy Effing $#it ...DONT U GET IT??@!#? THATS LKE SAYING Type UP A WORD DOCUMENT WEN SOFTWARE LKE MICROSOFT WORD WASNT INVENTED. u think they hve the proper programs to be able to use 100% of the power efficiently to technology thats ahead of its time? i dont think so

[INehalemEXI]

Well they used blu ray to what 91 % of its capacity? Thats good. The Cell in order to be used most efficiantly I agree will take time. Its a bit more complicated to utilize all of cells strengths vs all of blu rays capacity.

[Ju]

I actually found that "we use movies" comment pretty interesting. I was just thinking about that, recently (actually I was wondering how they do it in R&C). If in game engines are used to render cut scenes, they'll fill up mem, which you usually would like to keep empty in the cut scenes to load the next level. That makes perfect sense to stream a movie while you load the level in the background. I was just curious, and Balestra confirmed that.

[Azures]

Why didn't they make GoW look like GoW2, why didn't Halo look like Halo 2...

ya know why??

want me to tell you???

Because it was too early to harness that much of their system's potential! Idiots.

[Covenant]

*peeks into comments, gets singed, goes to put on flame-proof suit*

[gamesblow]

You know me, GAMESBLOW, super successful sony fanboy forum poster and blogger... but I'm also unbiased so this is what I have to say about Uncharted right now.

Maybe if Naughtydog would have used even 40% of that cell, it would've gotten a 9 instead of 8.5 from EGM. Just a thought Naughtydog.

[AKS]

I would have guessed you worked for Microsoft and were hired specifically to attack the PS3 judging by your posts on the Playstation blog. Are you a different "gamesblow" than the one posting there?

[Close_Second]

...which they claim is only using 30% of the PS3s SPUs. What kind of development time would be required to be using 75% or 95%?

Just because a system like the PS3 has much untapped potential it does not necessarily mean it will be tapped or at least any time soon because of the associative costs of doing so.

[n_n]

just think, this is ND's first PS3 title and it's looking and playing this great... can't imagine what they have cooked up at the office for the future... but i know it will be killer

[Gamingisfornerds]

Regardless whether it's true or not, this is just standard developer talk.

*Yawn*

[tudors]

Boring.

[power of Green]

Any-who sounds about right Gears Of War used two threads=1 core...

[Danja]

still hyping GEARS graphicaly I see..dude it's been a year...the minute Motorstorm Launched it killed Gears Graphically...Heavenly Sword ripped it to shreads..and now Drakes will just turn it's remains to ashes....

JUMP OUT...PLAY B3YOND....

[Jamaicangmr]

If am not mistaken GeOW used both cores. Am almost sure i read that epic stated that somewhere along prior to launch. Anyway could be wrong and too lazy to check.

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

10.4 - Nice Point about RAM give us RAM CARTS !!
We need to be educated on Ram cause this is where next gen consoles fall short so often.
The Dreamcast The Xbox the PS2!if any one of these systems had at least 512 or 386MB of Ram We wouldn't even be that impressed with these next gen systems ..

If the PS3 had more Ram (512MB Video)games like Crysis would be easily done and be better on the PS3.1080p would be normal on all games.
But It seems cutting corners on hardware assumes that devlopers to find trick to ballance memory usage which results in untapped potential on consoles!!
Which means less long term support.

Ram is MAXED out already!!!

Analogy
Having the greatest creators and just giving him a few pages to write on or a few roles of film to tape or one canvas to create is BULLShtttt!

Very Pathetic SONY ! and Microsoft..

[Close_Second]

...The PS3 needed at least 512MB dedicated graphics RAM to exploit Blu-Ray. Whats the point of being able to store all those high-res textures if you can't use them to paint a scene because of memory restrictions. This is why we're seeing so many repeated textures in a single scene in all the graphically rich PS3 titles, e.g. GT5, Killzone 2, etc.

[Toixer]

Creating a new Franchise, new Chars, Story etc. takes a lot of time. And I guess creating a new game-engine from the scratch, which fits to the ps3, too.
I bet the sequel will be a lot easier to make, where they can spend more time in optimzing code and doing improvements to graphics, physics etc., which will result in heavier usage of the cell.

[gamesblow]

http://blog.myspace.com/ind...

Nuff said

[fury]

...infact those ppl are blithering idiots and don't have any clue at all.

[ATLRoAcH]

Some people talk about how the PS3 is junk or whatever like they're smarter than IBM ,Sony, and Toshiba.One thing I know is Naughty Dog is a super talented development team and after playing the demo I can say they succeeded in every way with Uncharted.This game not only plays great and is super fun but is so very beautiful from the lighting to the textures to the effects and on to the oh so well executed water (I love how Drake gets wet and drys slowly,such a nice touch) in the game.Uncharted was the final push that got me to go ahead and buy a PS3 about seven months ago and I'm glad to see its going to be such a great game.

[Xi]

suuuuurrrreeeee.

[unlimited]

i hope sony first party push the ps3 hardware to its max..uncharted, r&c, heavenly sword and Lair is awesome great looking games...yes i know Lair isnt that much of a great game..but the graphic is crazy

[crank]

mart is gay

spread the word..........

[crank]

noooh, really GAY

[Maestro]

LOL, Uncharted got a 8.5 from EGM and 8.5 from 1up. Fantaaaaaaaaastic score for an "AAA" game.

[Danja]

man you sound bitter what did Drake stole Princess Peach from Mario..

[AKS]

Why don't you try playing it instead of relying on EGM? They aren't that great of a magazine anyway. Don't you know anyone with a PS3 who would be willing to let you play the demo?

Also, did the 8.5s you mentioned in EGM and 1up come from unique authors? Aren't they from the same person?

[fury]

...but i must disappoint you. 8.5 is a pretty good score for EGM standards. Infact it is a 9.5 in other magazines. Sry mate, but I owned you.

[crank]

maestro is gay

[SaMiR111]

FAKE ps 3

[kngri]

having a computer running @ 100% capacity doesn't necessarily mean it will do the best performance. for example you can have a dozen thing running on your computer at the same time, but it will have the worse performance ever, so it all comes down on how much memory ram you have to run all this things at the same time. The same goes with consoles the ps3 could use all the SPU's and have a bad performance doing so.

[Marceles]

That's not the same thing. PS3 games are made to be played on the PS3 and have set requirements that everyone who owns a PS3 have. With PC games, the performance isn't always the same because people have different PC setups. Using a computer with 100% capacity could be because the guy's computer is 5 years old, while someone with a modern setup can handle the game with ease. Games with 100% capacity on the PS3 would still run fine on the PS3 since the devs have test kits to not make the game so huge that it lags on everyone's systems while totally maxing out the hardware, while PC devs could have 2 gbs of video memory while testing a game and ship it to people with only 128 MB cards and make their computers freeze. That's why there's minimum and recommended requirements for PC games.

[kngri]

But I didn't say it in a bad way. is just that i saw some comments complaining on why the dev didn't use 100%. I'm only stating that they don't need to pull 100% to make a very good game with solid graphics because is all about having the best performance with what they used.

[DJ]

The difference between Cell and traditional PowerPC/x86 architectures is that Cell gives its programmers complete control over the on-chip memory. In x86 and PowerPC chips, this is L2 Cache. In Cell, it’s Local Storage. L2 Cache is unpredictable, and any attempt to retrieve data that isn’t in L2 cache halts the CPU for 80~200 cycles as it searches through system memory for that data.

Cell doesn’t suffer from this hindrance as programmers have manual control over what goes in and out of Local Storage. What this allows them to do, using Playstation Edge monitoring tools, is to measure exactly what causes processing hold-ups on the SPEs, as well as help them measure how much downtime each Core has as the game engine is running. This has never actually been possible before, and it’s the reason why PS3 developers are able to confidently state “Our game is only using 30% of the SPEs’ potential”. It’s because they can see exactly what percentage of the CPU Time is basically idle time.

They also get measures on EIB bandwidth performance (very important), as well as RSX performance, which is really cool.

The one confounding variable is that while developers struggle to push Cell to 100% of its processing efficiency, developers are also developing new technologies and faster, more powerful ways to execute physics, animation, and all that fun stuff. Uncharted is the most impressive game on any system right now, and the scary thing is that it’s only the tip of the iceberg of what PS3 can really do. I expect to see a lot of retrospective articles about “Sony’s CG Lies” back from E3 ‘05 once we hit 2009 and 2010.

[lucas107]

i hate how you cant have a first party game on the ps3 and not have 75% of the questions just talking about how awesome the ps3 is. there was like what 2 lines about the actual game and 2 pages of how awesome and all powerful the ps3 is. ps3 is a great system and does now and will put out some amazing games but please tell me about games and now how just how awesome the ps3 is. i dont think i have ever heard in an interview by anyone xbox related saying anything to developers about how this couldnt be done on another system or how they use the ram this way since its set up differently then the ps3's. who fricken cares about this crap just tell me how awesome the game is and not some bs about the damn processor. i hate when i rant i end up not making much sense but i hope someone else figures this post out and agrees that the ps3 is awesome but seriously its been a year stop bragging about your spu's and tell me about your fricken games. and please if you disagree find me a first party ps3 game that they didnt get the devs to tell you how awesome the ps3 is and how it couldnt be done on the 360.

[FunnyBone]

Great game by the way...I played Uncharted and to be honest(I know Sony Girls Disagree)It was not that mind blowing....I am running it at 1080p and it did not do anything for me...It was good,The graphics were good but it wasnt this mind blowing game...I dont know if you girls that only have ps3's just have not had anything good to compare....HS-Be realwhat was so special about it...nice graphics.....R&C-I have never played a R&C game before this one...I dont have anything bad to say about it..Just not a system seller....What else Moterstorm-Blah...I cant think of any others...I just dont know what is getting you girls all hyped up about it...There are ps3 games im looking forward to but these are not the ones....

Before the girls start crying,You dont own a ps3 stfu, or your lying you dont have Mass Effect...

xBANGx -PSN
ImaKillYouSucka -PSN

xBANGx -Live

Now go ahead and disagree...My life does not revolve around N4G like some here who do care....

[Ju]

Now, I might loose a bubble, but am I the only one who is not impressed with CoD4? I don't know. I got it today. Maybe its because I am too old or what, I don't know. But the only good about it is the 60fps AFAIS. Its to fast for me, the squad usually cuts me off, I have to really fight to get a shot. WTH. The visuals are not (!) better then Uncharted. Far off, IMO. U:DF has way more details in a much higher level and not blurred out edges. Also, I liked Graw2 much better (as a direct war game shooter competitor). Way more tactical play, slower, sure, and has some frame rate issues, but way better game play, IMO. And I even like its visuals better. CoD4 is overdoing it, IMO. I have to admit, I never liked the CoD series, and that is just another one.

Well, well, I am bashing CoD4 now. But what I am trying to say, is, people have different taste. I am preferring Uncharted way over CoD4. No matter if it gets 100 10/10s. I prefer a good storyline and singleplayer over online kills any time. And that is, what I think U:DF will deliver. R&C does already, and I have to take a look at Assassins (which IMO has amazing visuals, too), but I have might doubts about the sword fight mechanic. World does not consist of shooters alone, you know, even if that will cost you at least 0.5-1.5 in the reviews.

[crank]

Totally agreed, the cell is beautiful, once people see it in action, it's kind of like the movie eraserhead, you have to see it to believe in it, or more casual, to respect and approve of it.

Sony is in line to be the master, though, I am glad they have fierce competition. Without it, they would not be up to the challenge.

[The_Engineer]

fanboys refuse to admit that Sony built a CGI machine.

[CrazzyMan]

though, it`s hard to develope with Cell..
2nd year ps3 games will be even better.
3rd year PS3 will get games like Gow2 on PS2, because, ps2 had complicated GPU and CPU, while PS3 has only complicated CPU.

and PS2 had only 4Mb vram, it was more about processing power, that`s why when developers will be able to optimize 80-90% of Cell power, we will see amazing games.

Ratchet is near pixar quality game, next Ratchet will look like pixar movie.
Naruto already looks like anime.
and FFXIII is very close to CGI.
same goes for KZ2, the game while still could have better textures, has amazing level of details on screen.

PS3 FTW!

[FunnyBone]

It's easy to say...2 years from now 3 years from now...HOW the F do you know..It's kinda like the Jack Off in early post that says..Neo Delta says "DO you even know what the cell is? Its so far ahead of its time" Wow that was one hell of a technical statement...Shows how much some "SOME" of you buy into this hype when infact you have no clue....

Another-Again Neo Delta-"One simple answer - They can't! The cell is so high tech, they're still getting to grips with it." How long have you been working in the R&D for cell processers????

JUMP OUT...PLAY B3YOND.... AND GET L3FT B3HIND...

Get both systems and you might enjoy your gaming a little....

[CrazzyMan]

FFXIII
FFXIIIv
Getaway3
LBP
GT5 vs GTHD
and turn on some LOGIC?

well just look at RE5, it looks amazing, coming late 2008 or early 2009.

is it hard to understand, that developers use only 15-30$ of SPU, while most developers on ps3 at all DON`T use SPU`s, that why when they get to use 80-90% of it`s power it will show amazing results?

i mean, there was an article, where HAVOK engine, after optimizing it on SPU began to run 6 or 8 time faster, or maybe more, really don`t remeber now. But Cell do has great potential in itself, and if you are in DENIAL, what can i say, your mission is a FAILURE. =))

[Saint Sony]

Animation in it is damn sweet, but the looks could use LOADS of tweaking. It looked much better in early screenshots.. now they have made it look a lot worse.

Why is that?... not enough power?

[Marceles]

I gotta see these early screens that look better than the game now, because I've never seen the game look better than when I played the demo.

[EasilyTheBest]

Its the Cell you see.... What a load of crap.
I'm fed up hearing how amazingly powerful the PS3 is...
Is everyone under hypnosis or what!!! Its marketing bullshit.
If the Ps3 is suppose to be so powerful how come all multi format games are better on the 360... Yes the, "ain't had time to harness the power of CELL" or " they are porting it from the 360" worked for the first few games, but come on. Its still the same now as it was at the start.
Remember, it was suppose to be the Xbox 1.5, PS3 was suppose to be twice as powerful. Remember all that a year or so ago.
If the PS3 was so powerful the difference should be noticeable NOW. Yes thats right. If the 360 was the original PS1 then PS3 games should look like dreamcast games compared to it.
In other words the CELL is suppose to be so dam powerful even IF the developers were only using half its power they should still be looking better than 360 games.
Stop the crap. The 360 despite its known faults is a much better designed gaming console.
Think about what will be said 8 years from now when the next machines are out. It will be the same, the PS3 was more powerful but no1 ever managed to tap its full potential. It was such a powerful machine blah blah blah.
BLAME SONY its their fault and no one elses.
Rant over.

I see the disagrees coming, but hey come on there must be at least 4 Adults on here!!!

[DJ]

Wow, you really are blind.

[CrazzyMan]

I name PS3 game, you name x360 game in same genre, which graphics is better, and also don`t forget to comment what is better. =)

Uncharted - ? (btw UT3 single has better graphics, then geow, just in case :} )
Ratchet - ?
FFXIII - ?
FFXIIIv - ?
WKS - ?
Heavenly Sword - ?
Tekken6 - ?
Afrika - ?
LBP - ?
MotorStorm - ?
GT5 - ?
MGS4 - ?
KillZone2 - ?
Naruto PS3 - ?
8days - ?
Getaway 3 - ?
Wardevil - ?
Heavy Rain - ?
Infamous - ?

it maybe any game(even from 2008-2009), which has atleast some screens or trailer.

[secur1ty911]

Backup instructions for devs to utilize in case they could not harness or have problems harnessing the true power of the PS3.

SONY built the damn console they should be providing the secrets to devs on how to make A TRUE NEXT GEN GAME.

BUT I have to say that the PS3 is still and will be the better console between the 360 and the Wii.

P.S Uncharted is an amazing game - I'm definately picking it up.

[zonetrooper5]

Man, when I become a dev. I'm gonna spit out random numbers from my ass.

"My new game which is for the PS3 and 360. Uses 28.56546546% of the Cell's power, while on the 360 I use 44.54645% of the Xenon's power. You see, thats spin..thanks guys."

=D

[gnothe1]

I'm glad somebody finally figured out the dirty tactics that sony uses!! they did the same thing to kill the dreamcast, talked all that super computer crap an had people really believing that the PS2 was something it was not!!this time that crap aint working. never before have developers, especially first party ever bragged about SPECS, it was always about the games. but for sony its always true HD, 1080p, 60 FPS, % of the cells power, 50 gigs on blu ray!!! what happen to, this game will blow you away!!

time an time again multi plat games look an run better on the 360 but sony boys say you cant compare those, when infact those are the games you should compare. they say compare exclusives, well how do we know if this game can run or look better on this system's because its not available for the system!! its actually a cop out by the sony boys, they want you to compare a game thats not available for another system.

has anybody notice that the sony boys dont bring up those pics of COD4, they did all that bragging about how the PS3 version looks the best before it was released, but when it was brought to the table an the truth revealed they dont bring up the graphics anymore or they'll say they look the same when we all know the 360 version looks better!!

[Cutnell]

I find it kind of funny that EVERY post you make in regards to PS3 is an attempt to bash the PS3. My question for you is, what does bashing the PS3 net for you? Does it really matter if you state your obvious bias on a PS3 article? No, in fact I just think you are an idiot trying to compensate for something you lack in your everyday life. I'm sorry you have to supplement your lame life by bashing on the PS3.... I hope your e-penis gets you laid because it's obvious your real one doesn't.

In short, get a life!

Btw, I am interested to see what happens as the PS3's development tools become more sophisticated and developers begin using more of it's power. Maybe it's not more powerful than the 360 or whatever, but I know that it has been pretty impressive so far (except certain 3rd party titles *cough EA cough*).

[Ju]

OK, so you bring up the CoD4 again. Let me tell you, the more I play it - compared to U:DF - the more I am getting disappointed. Nothing - I mean really nothing - moves. No flag, no fabric, no leaf, no tree no grass. In U:DF EVERYTHING (!) moves - and casts real time shadows. The guy (Nathan) actually lifts his leg (!) when he steps on a body, you can even jump around on one and that poor dead guys below you moves around. WTH are people talking about. The best title out there (CoD4) does not stand a chance against U:DF. That is just a fact. CoD4 has nice lightning and 60fps, but that's it. Even the cover system is crap. You can't even peak out and shoot - U:DF can! What about jumping from cover to cover ? Not there, U:DF can. So, yes, flame whatever you can, if you have no PS3 you can't make a judgment. Simple.

Ah, what I forgot. Nice water in CoD4 - but Nate's pants actually get wet!

[Xbox is the BEST]

I've heard this all before. PS#2 Emotion Engine now this. If the PS#2 ever produces the Toy Story graphics that you guys promised then I will get a PS#3. Yea there are suckers out there that will fall for the hype. And "Play Beyond" play beyond what? It's a game system.

[Lex Luthor]

so true

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

so who needs crysis, thats why its old news now, cause ps3 is cg ready, too bad and oh well

[Gamerz4life]

@ Xbox is the BEST

Hey How about "JUMP IN"! jump in to what? A game console? dumbass. Oh yeah hate all you want. All the idiots that say the ps3 is doom and so forth will be singing a different tune next year and beyond. The same crap happen in the beginning of the ps2's life and the same crap is happening during the ps3. So no big suprise here; I would be more suprised if the ps3 wasn't bash because it was hard to program for.

end of rant.

[Xbox is the BEST]

Do you play games in surround sound? That's what "Jump In" means. Surround sound puts you in the game. Explain what Play Beyond mean please.

[Armyless]

Play a console that was (over) built so that it would last as a 10 year console, breaking the 5 year cycle in the current "race".

[cherdman]

<New Details on Uncharted: "Only using 30% of SPU's">

Hm...so that's why the game looks and plays like garbage.

[iceice123]

Obviously it's because ND is lazy. Wonder why Sony girls arn't crying :)

[Gamerz4life]

Oh wow, play in surround sound and i guess the previous gen you played in mono. Like thats new to this generation of consoles. Let me see, Play beyond....hhhmmmmm...how about Play Beyond STUPIDITY and hardware failure.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Good luck on trying to figure out how to reach 40%

[Xbox is the BEST]

I was playing in surround sound last gen PS#2, Xbox and Gamecube. I answered your question did I bash you? Showing your age? your funny. RROD did not stop the 360 those jokes were funny over the summer not anymore. Do you work for Sony? Are you on the payroll? You sound insecure over a video game system. Not a blind fanboy like you although my name is Xbox is the BEST. You know why? Because it is the BEST. Play Beyond.

[iceice123]

Seems more like you get more emersed into the games your playing, or jump in its fun and easy. wait b3yond, I mean play b3yond is trying to say they're ahead of everyone else. Sad thing is their behind, so it should be play b3hind.

[Gamerz4life]

As a matter of fact i do work for SONY thats why i'm here arguing with a 10 year old that has Microsoft so far up his ass that he can't even crap out anything he eats. I forgot the old internet saying about arguing on the Internet: "Winning an arguement on the internet is like taking 1st place in the special olympics, no matter who wins you're still retarded".

[Xbox is the BEST]

act your age. If I'm 10 years old with MS stuck up my ass then I guess every kid is like me, that means that in the biggest video gaming market Sony is doomed. Will you lose your job if Sony pulls the PS#3 plug? I'm sure you see the money Sony losing. I work for a billion dollar company and if there is no profit companies usually cut there loses. Didn't Sony borrowed $8 billion to launch the PS#3? Please act your age and respond like a grown man. You make Sony look bad.

[Gamerz4life]

You could say the same thing about Microsoft. They haven't made a single profit from their xbox division since the first xbox launch and they're still around. So why don't their stockholders just pull the plug on their gaming division then??? If only the Linux OS community can come up with a standardization process in all of the flavors of Linux then MS's Windows OS would be obsolete.

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

53.1 - Then
act your age. If I'm 10 years old with MS stuck up my ass then I guess every kid is like me, that means that in the biggest video gaming market Sony is doomed. Will you lose your job if Sony pulls the PS#3 plug? I'm sure you see the money Sony losing. I work for a billion dollar company and if there is no profit companies usually cut there loses. Didn't Sony borrowed $8 billion to launch the PS#3? Please act your age and respond like a grown man. You make Sony look bad

didnt sony borrow you mean? NO they didnt

[367 To Your Ass]

mmmmmmmm, i'm still getting mass effect.

[Jamaicangmr]

So you guys are arguin Marketing slogons and shockholdings? Gamerz4life come on "Xbox is the Best" now seriously you really think your gonna get reasonable argument out of someone with that for is name? You really think "Jump in" is reffering to surround sound? When both PS2 and Xbox had build in dolby 5.1 support? Clearly they must be talkin about the Xbox360 experience in itself. "Play Beyond" I would interpet as mean the PS3 is not a typical console as it offers alot more so just like sayin think outside of the box just "Play beyond"

Anyway back on topic. Just like everything in this world is open to interpetation i would interpet this statment as them sayin, With Uncharted looking a playin as amazingly as it does it uses only 30% so imagine what our future projects are gonna be like.

That my interpetation on this statment and statments of simular nature.

[Xbox is the BEST]

it puts you in the game. Surround sound enhances the gaming experience
Jump In.

[obinofunkenobi]

From the developer's point-of-view, 30% spu power is better than 40% spu power. That only means that the efficiency of the programming is pretty good if they're using less power. They're basically bragging about their programming skills to get that much to run on the screen at 30% power. A crappy developer would use over 50% spu power for the same graphics and whatnot. Good job.

[Lex Luthor]

The Ps2 is still yet to produce Toy Story graphics, the only people who will believe this 30%,40% stuff are the fanboys. Yet their system is still in 3rd place and their games still sell like crap.

[AIZEN SOZUKE]

the ps2 isnt maxed out, and it did do toy story graphisc on tech demos running on the hardware, the ps3 can and will do movie graphics, sony uses cell to make their movies