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Rumor - Microsoft's Secret Conference - BandaiNamco, Koei and Square Enix new IP's for X360 and more

Gamefront.de is reporting that, Microsoft has a possible secret conference coming out before the official TGS kicks off on the 12th of this month, next week thursday. The rumored Microsoft secret conference will have special previews on Halo 3, PGR4 and more.

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Naruto6067d ago

i seems very unlikely but what is this rumor based off of?

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BLaZiN PRopHeT6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

^^^ your a moron. both LP and DR sold over a million copies please shut up

@ playslave above me. they used the MT engine. a multi engine they are using for all their games. which cuts down on the cost please shut up.

secret6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

Secret handshakes between Microsoft and game publishers and news media and magazines and bias for people who have invested shares of stock in microsoft (which I've been buying since I was a sophomore in High School) is blatant. They were caught by the LA Times for trying to give money to a Wikepedia writer to write something in their favor. It backfired and the person being bribed reported it. If you can't win fair and square, you might resort to cheating and unsportsman like behavior, depending on the kind of person you are.

I can buy a 360 if I want to, but what's the point. Most games on the 360 are avaialbe on my PC (Gears and Bioshock are available but I don't even bother to buy them, so why would I buy a 360). Most are being ported anyways, and if they're of bad quality, at least they're better than anything on the dreamcast or xbox or PS2. It's not too easy to spot the difference in most cases. But how long will developers fail algebra before they get it right. When they say the 360 is easier to develop for, that's an insult actually. That suggests the technology is similar to last gens's technology and is easy to learn. With the CELL, it's totally new and mysterious. Like anything new, it takes time to learn. It's not hard. It's a new subject in school. It's not moving from Algebra one to Algebra 2.

So, aside from the 360 games that I'd want already avaialbe on my PC or as ports, I'd prfer the PS3 because I won't have to go out and buy a bluray player as I know most 360 people will have to do. Funny, once they research for the best standalone bluray player (because most movies are on bluray), they'll see that the PS3 is the best valued standalone bluray player if they love gaming too. Now they're stuck with 360 and PS3 versions of the same game.

Quite frankly, I'm very satisified with my PS3 so far, jumping between Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Motorstorm, GRAW2, or Virtua fighter among other games and movies like Hellboy, Casino Royale, or Bridge to Terabithia. Others are on the way - MGS4 and the Spiderman movies along with Chronicles of Narnia and Harry Potter.

Mostly, I love the one piece design and quietness of the machine. And having it in black is a wise choice because when you turn the lights off, the PS3 disappears if you cover the power LED with black car tint tape as I did. When you watch a movie or play a game in the dark, you don't want to see a white box below the TV. The PS3 blends into the night and you can't hear it.

Lack of games? All the PS2 games like metal slug anthology and FF12 are still pretty good. I've never tried them yet since I never owned a PS2 or PS1. But you get PS1, PS2, and PS3, and PSN games. Not bad. And how many games are you really going to buy at one time without being ridiculous anyways. And even if you buy all of them, are you really going to have the time to play them all. I like to savor and mull over each of my eight games like fine wine. Take my time and enjoy them inch by inch.

I haven't been bored with my PS3 yet, and I used some of my Microsoft stock money to buy two PS3's. Yes, one for movies only and one for gaming and movies.

PS3 is where it's at.

Put all three consoles at the same price, whether $100, $200, $300, and you'll see which system will sell more. You'll see which system is truly the best. Right now, the Wii is winning, but doesn't mean that because the Tercel is a better than the Ferrari or Bentley just because it's priced for the masses. Most likely, the Wii is a complimentary item for most people who own a 360.

I'm sure that most people who start off buying a 360 will later one consider the purchase of either a standalone bluray player, HD-DVD player, or a Wii. Mainly because the 360 doesn't come with it. And when they research bluray players because that's where all the movies are, they'll realize that the PS3 is one of the best values, especially if they like gaming. Ironically, it's the 360 people will or are helping Sony win the bluray war.

However, most people who start off with a PS3 first will rarely consider buying a 360 or Wii later on. With the sixaxis and eyetoy, the PS3 can mimic the Wii very well. Most games ont he 360 are either on everyone's PC or can be ported, which have already gotten better. How much longer can ports look bad? Look at Oblivion and GRAW2 and COD4 or Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Plus, they don't have to shop for another bluray player. Soon, you can use it to record internet TV shows with a DVR. Talk about everything in one unit - SACD playback, PS2 games, PS1 games, PSN games, PS3 games, xbox360 games, DVD playback (good picture quality), Bluray playback, Linux PC to do homework, Free internet access, free video chat, DVR, SD card reader, Compact Flash reader, memory stick reader, MP3 playback...oh man, just too many to list....

Looking at MGS4, KILLZONE2, and Grand Turismo 5, you know that the PS3 is one of the powerful sytem out there. So graphically, if any games come out bad, you blame in the developers. The PS3 is the highest quality and quantities paper and pen available. If the stories and the novels turn out bad, blame it on the writer or the book authoer, not the pen and paper. Just look at KZ2 and MGS4 and GT5, and the PS3 is still an infant.

There's one possible reason among many reasons as to why 360 has such a rude and loyal fanboy. It's becuse the 360 resembles the dreamcast adn they regret letting the dreamcast die. They don't want to let the same thing happen to MS and the xbox360 in fear of what happened to Sega and Dreamcast. So that's what you see now. Both came out early. Both are white. Both have adopted an inferior disc technology. Both had hardware issues. How else is the xbox360 and the dreamcast sharing similar paths? Anyone? They're regretting that they let dreamcast die. They're afraid the 360 will die too so they'll back it -- NO MATTER WHAT. Even if the failrate is 90% or even 99%.

I know the xbox360 and secret handshakes from Microsoft between media people, magazines, and developers have been holding the PS3 back. You look at Motorstorm and then look at COD3 or Marvel Ultimate alliance and you get the feeling that the PS3 is better than what Microsoft allows it to be.

In short, I think the secret hanshakes with Microsoft is holding the fastest runner back. It's a race, and I think Microsoft realizes that it's horse isn't the fastest and strongest around, so it's rigged secret handshakes to setup the PS3 to lose.

blackmagic6067d ago

You keep spouting off that the 360 is the lowest selling console in EU (Everytime you use that single bubble of yours) but I can only find information that completely contradicts that. If you can't provide a reliable link to support that then please stop spamming N4G.

DrunKao6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

secret, I agree with you completely, but did you really need to type that much? Lol. I wouldn't even waste my time on Xbots. With the time it took you to type that post you could have been playing awesome, award winning, critically acclaimed games such as Lair; which takes full advantage of both Blu-ray and the Cell processor, with it's 4 gb levels, 1080p native resolution, Dolby Digital 7.1 surround sound, motion sensing controls. Hell I don't even know why I'm here when I could be having so much fun on the PS3.

Those things I mentioned aren't even possible on the 360 and they're ESSENTIAL for Next Generation gaming, as demonstrated so wonderfully by Lair. Maybe the 360 can do 1080p, but it can barely handle it, whereas the PS3 renders graphics in 1080p with minimal effort. The 360 hardware is also completely unreliable. Sure, Microsoft may be resolving the problems with the 2nd heatsink and soon to be released 65nm, but the console was unreliable and that's what matters. Why anyone would even consider purchasing a 360 is beyond me. What games does it have, BioShock? Puuuuhlease. That game is gimped beyond belief by the 360s crappy DVD9 drive and inferior hardware so it automatically sucks. Irrational didn't stand a chance. I'd be surprised if it even scores higher than a 7. Besides, If I can't even enjoy it on my 30k 7.1 surround sound system in 10 different languages, I don't want to play it. Gives me nightmares just thinking about it.

*Goes back to watching Blu-Ray movies.*

eLiNeS6067d ago

Join the 125 others that have ignored him and don't give him the time of day and hopefully he will go away.

razer6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

Take the tinfoil hat off man.. I'm not even going to read that wall of text you typed but you seem to have all these moral problems with MS being underhanded yet you still have no problem owning stock for MS. If you really believe that MS is the only company that deals in shady business you need to wake up. Sony is far from innocent with their payola scandels regarding their music dealings, rootkits, payoffs to press and media, etc. Companys do it, is it unethical yes, but it's reality..

Your great at pointing the finger at "loyal 360 fanboys" but you seem to have your nose up Sony's ass pretty far.. FANBOY!

You fail.

DrunKao - Your post is so idiotic it barely deserves a reply.. Why would anyone buy a 360, try GREAT GAMES! You mention Bioshock and then say it's gimped.. PLEASE give me some proof that it's gimped.. I'm not going to resort to listing 360 titles that are excellent or go into how many are 90+ in score ranking. If you hate the console so much why are you in a 360 thread completely OFF TOPIC! Waving your stupid Sony flag around.. Nobody is buying your bullshit sorry son.

tplarkin76067d ago

That's called confidentiality. If the competition knew what Microsoft was doing, they would respond based on the disclosed information. For example, if Sony knew that Microsoft was buying exclusive content for GTA, Sony would have made moves to prevent it. But MS is smart, so they made a deal with Take2 and paid them 50 million for more stuff and locked Sony out of any extra content.

I suppose everyone should just be friends and take turns getting deals?

secret6067d ago

Put the Wii, 360, and the PS3 at the SAME PRICE, and we'll see which system will sell more. That'll end this debate once and for all. If Microsoft thinks its console is really strong, why not RAISE the price to the PS3 level instead of lowering it? Let's see how tough it is standing toe to toe with the PS3.

Xi6067d ago

k seceret, also give the 360 an extra year to launch, hd-dvd or blu-ray drive's in the wii and 360 and guess what? 360 would win, halo and exclusive gta content = win.

WilliamRLBaker6067d ago

I can just imagine secret now, siting in his basement with an tinfoil hat on and wondering bout microsoft, sony and the grassy gnoll..

P.S: Most 360 games can be found on the PC *laughs hard* nope only about 10-20 games in a catalog of what 180 games released can be found on the pc.

secret6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

Hey, Razer. This one's for you. If Microsoft releases a HD-DVD system for gaming, what do you think would happen. School me, please. If developers release games on HD-DVD only, wouldn't the DVD people get upset? If developers release games on DVD only, wouldn't the HD-DVD people get upset? If developers realease games on both formats to the full capacity, wouldn't the DVD people get upset for getting the inferior version? If developers release games to match the DVD capacity on both formats, wouldn't the HD-DVD people wonder why they bought one in the first place. I'm assuming that Microsoft understands this as I do and that's why they didn't release it with the Elite.

Razer, how about another lesson about intelligence. Let me ask you this question, if DVD really is hi-definition (since you talk about 720/1080p output on the xbox), why do you need bluray or HD-DVD in the first place? Tell me...before you start talking about intellects, look at yourself first. Don't give yourself too much credit, razor.

How many xbox360 people already own a standalone bluray player and/or HD-DVD player? But if Microsoft adds a bluray player, then that's good. They've waived the white flag and admitted defeat in the format war. But then here's the catch. After all the internet fees and accessorries and games, once you buy these add-ons, if they occur. How much money will you have spend already? $1000-$2000-$3000??? smart, xbots. really smart. CONSUMER, YOU consumer. I make money. I'm not proud to spend money, you consumer.

I own shares of stock in Microsoft. Been buying since softmore year in high school and thanks to that, used the money to buy two PS3's. Wouldn't see why I would even buy one.

Razer, let me ask you this. Is saying that the xbox360 is easy to develop for a praise or an insult. It's easy to develop for becauase it's similar to last gen if it's not last gen. The CELL is totally knew, a new subject. It's like Calculus for the first time. Of course, you'll talke time to learn something new. Remember learning to swim for the first time? 360 is last gen material, holding the PS3 back.

I don't think the 360 can do Motorstorm, a first gen game. But I'm sure in the hands of the motorstorm developer or the inscomniac developers, they can run loops in porting Gears.

But the point is, why buy a 360 when I can already get all the games I want from it on either a PC or my PS3? Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Fight Night, Bioshock, Gears, Halo, COD3, COD4, GRAW2, Ninja Gaiden, Oblivions, and much more. But can the 360 play movies? Does it have motion sensor controls? I hear it's HD-DVD playback has the worse picture qualities on earth, (EGM issue 122, Februrary 2007, page 35.)But what movies are you going to watch on it?

And 360 people are bad people. I hear they're trying to kills Spiderman now. Last Time I heard, Spiderman was a hero...Peter Parker...YOU CRIMINAL....360 people are bad people. They like to hurt people.

******** Look at how RAZER attacked me personally for further confirmation. He values his console more than even a human life. THAT'S XBOTS for you. You want to belong to THAT CROWD? Villains???
***Being mean is worse than being stupid, Razer. Look at Forrest Gump compared to Hitler. I hope you learn more about life than protecting your own console and ego than caring for another human's well-being. There's deeper meaning to life than what you can understand, Razer. I know that I went to a better school and hold a higher GPA than you without even needing to know much about you, but I never once attacked you. Show some decency, man. Be human if you know how. But maybe that's why Hillary Clinton would hate Gears of War, the drug addict rock cocaine death metal horror movie game that prison inmates and people like you enjoy, Razer. Birds of a feather flock together, I'd say.

Anything else anyone would like to add? PS3 is being held back.
Why would I want a 360 if I don't like Gears, Bioshock, or Halo? They're available on PC's, and I haven't even thought about buying them.

secret6067d ago

Hey, Razer. This one's for you. If Microsoft releases a HD-DVD system for gaming, what do you think would happen. School me, please. If developers release games on HD-DVD only, wouldn't the DVD people get upset? If developers release games on DVD only, wouldn't the HD-DVD people get upset? If developers realease games on both formats to the full capacity, wouldn't the DVD people get upset for getting the inferior version? If developers release games to match the DVD capacity on both formats, wouldn't the HD-DVD people wonder why they bought one in the first place. I'm assuming that Microsoft understands this as I do and that's why they didn't release it with the Elite.

Razer, how about another lesson about intelligence. Let me ask you this question, if DVD really is hi-definition (since you talk about 720/1080p output on the xbox), why do you need bluray or HD-DVD in the first place? Tell me...before you start talking about intellects, look at yourself first. Don't give yourself too much credit, razor.

How many xbox360 people already own a standalone bluray player and/or HD-DVD player? But if Microsoft adds a bluray player, then that's good. They've waived the white flag and admitted defeat in the format war. But then here's the catch. After all the internet fees and accessorries and games, once you buy these add-ons, if they occur. How much money will you have spend already? $1000-$2000-$3000??? smart, xbots. really smart. CONSUMER, YOU consumer. I make money. I'm not proud to spend money, you consumer.

I own shares of stock in Microsoft. Been buying since softmore year in high school and thanks to that, used the money to buy two PS3's. Wouldn't see why I would even buy one.

Razer, let me ask you this. Is saying that the xbox360 is easy to develop for a praise or an insult. It's easy to develop for becauase it's similar to last gen if it's not last gen. The CELL is totally knew, a new subject. It's like Calculus for the first time. Of course, you'll talke time to learn something new. Remember learning to swim for the first time? 360 is last gen material, holding the PS3 back.

I don't think the 360 can do Motorstorm, a first gen game. But I'm sure in the hands of the motorstorm developer or the inscomniac developers, they can run loops in porting Gears.

But the point is, why buy a 360 when I can already get all the games I want from it on either a PC or my PS3? Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Fight Night, Bioshock, Gears, Halo, COD3, COD4, GRAW2, Ninja Gaiden, Oblivions, and much more. But can the 360 play movies? Does it have motion sensor controls? I hear it's HD-DVD playback has the worse picture qualities on earth, (EGM issue 122, Februrary 2007, page 35.)But what movies are you going to watch on it?

And 360 people are bad people. I hear they're trying to kills Spiderman now. Last Time I heard, Spiderman was a hero...Peter Parker...YOU CRIMINAL....360 people are bad people. They like to hurt people.

******** Look at how RAZER attacked me personally for further confirmation. He values his console more than even a human life. THAT'S XBOTS for you. You want to belong to THAT CROWD? Villains???
***Being mean is worse than being stupid, Razer. Look at Forrest Gump compared to Hitler. I hope you learn more about life than protecting your own console and ego than caring for another human's well-being. There's deeper meaning to life than what you can understand, Razer. I know that I went to a better school and hold a higher GPA than you without even needing to know much about you, but I never once attacked you. Show some decency, man. Be human if you know how. But maybe that's why Hillary Clinton would hate Gears of War, the drug addict rock cocaine death metal horror movie game that prison inmates and people like you enjoy, Razer. Birds of a feather flock together, I'd say.

Anything else anyone would like to add? PS3 is being held back.
Why would I want a 360 if I don't like Gears, Bioshock, or Halo? They're available on PC's, and I haven't even thought about buying them.

To clarify about games, Razer. Let me say this again, I can get all the xbox360 games I'd like through the PC and the PS3 multiplatforms and ports. And guess what? Why would I buy the 360 if I don't like Gears the crack cocaine death metal punk rock horror movie game. Do you think Hillary Clinton would like that game more or some prison inmate? I don't even want it on my PC, let a lone buy an expensive $300-$400 malfuntioning system for it?

Here is the big enlightenment for you, Razer. Surprise, Surprise. Microsoft has been out for at least 4 years now. In that long lifetime, I'll even say it has a TREMENDOUS amount of games -- even 1 million games. Now, follow along my logic, Razer. At the last E3 show, the judges awarded Microsoft only 11 game awards. 11 games over a spand of 4 years of life, and from over a sea of 1 millioin games. Suggests to me that (like their hardware), Microsoft is focusing on QUANTITY OVER QUALITY, doesn't it? If the game selection is so good and soo great, then how come you own so little? Do you at least own 500,000 of those millions of games available? Why not?

In contrast, the PS3 is not even a 1 year old infant yet. Just barely born. And the judges awarded it 8 awards. But get this. It received top honors for best graphics and top honors for best originality in games. If it's true that the PS3 lacks games with only a handful out at the moment. Then (Like it's hardware), that's a focus of QUALITY over quantity if you see 8 awards out of only a small handful of games (not even millions), over a span of only less than a year of age. PS3 is a prodigy.

Microsoft has lots an ocean of junk games. For crack cocaine, nasty tempered high school drop out drug addict prison inmates who would prefer death metal Gears of War horror movies over books and their consoles over human life. Not for me. Sorry. But perfect for you. Especially if you like to spend a lot of money. Which you are. You're a consumer.

secret6067d ago

Quite frankly razer, I don't want to associate with anyone who values his console over another person's well-being or life. Being mean is worse than being stupid. Look at Hitler Compared to Forrest Gump. You are dangerous to society.

Perhaps this is why Hillary Clinton wouldn't prefer Gears of War the death metal crack cocaine drug addict horr game but you would.

xplosneer6067d ago

IDK, I think DrunkKaos post had a hint of sarcasm.

DrunKao6067d ago

Yes, I was being sarcastic. People can be so dense sometimes >.<

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TriggerHappy6067d ago

If this is indeed true, the rpg battles are starting to really heat up now. So far Microsoft has Blue Dragon, and Mass Effect and lets now forget Lost Odyssey.

Sony on the other side have, Possible *FFVII* remake, FXIII and versus, Star Ocean 4, White Knight Story , erm what else ?

Loudninja6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

When ti comes to RPGS a PS system will always win., more RPGS are,is that RPG from Sega, Megazone Disagea 3, Makai Wars.

Dr Pepper6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

Don't forget Fable 2 Merc3nary, that's going to be a big game for 08.

Edit: To the people who disagree with me. Care to explain why? Fable was a really big seller on the original Xbox (wasn't it the second or third best behind Halo?), why wouldn't the sequel be a big game for Microsoft's 08 line-up?

Maddens Raiders6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

I usually find it hard to dispute things that you say, but
your coyness on this topic makes blood shoot from eyes. The RPG race is heating up? From this bogus rumor-mongering article about a company that can't sell rice in Japan?

Blue Dragon is a wet, steaming chocolate turd, I was high on Mass Effect, but is looking more and more like a Force Unleashed ripoff (remains to be seen...staff problems?), and Lost Odyssey is ........????? Lost in the crowd. If MS can pull off any traction in Japan as far as ANY game goes - much less RPG's, I'll be surprised and humbled. I think this is bogus, but really its way too late for MS to make up any ground in this genre. They should've bought Square to ensure further game clones and emulation of the PS2's success. Well that's it.
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WilliamRLBaker6067d ago

lol your funny maidens raiders its too late for them to gain any thing in the rpg genre now? lol right...actually its not if they some how managed a deal to have ff 13 games ported onto the 360...well there you go....thats not really too late now is it?

Blue dragon you've probly not even played, And the japanese love the game enough that it made the 360 have a blipp on the radar of console sales in japan.

And lost is lost in the crowd? you obviously dont have any idea what that means, Because that means no one would talk about it and hardly any one would know about it, Yet most magazines know of its existance, and people talk about it.

Learn your definition of words.

P.S: who mentions japan? just because its TGS doesn't mean its exclusive japanese deals, It might be New IP's for american shores which are much more important in this gen then JPN.

360Crusader6067d ago

Dont forget Eternal Sonata. The 360 is proving to be a contender of the rpg realm. The 360's upcoming rpg's I think look better then the PS3 rpg's but that's just my opinion. I dont wanna upset any fan boys.

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Naruto6067d ago

Time Crisis
Tekkken 6
maybe some Team Ico games

on sony side

iNcRiMiNaTi6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

i thought time crisis was a lightgun game, tekken was a fighting game, and ICO & shadow of the collosus were action games...

the greatest6067d ago (Edited 6067d ago )

warhawk rules

Meus Renaissance6067d ago

I'm surprised Microsoft drawing these Asian companies; I seriously doubt they'll be able to make a recovery in that region to challenge Nintendo and Sony. But you can't take away the credit from them; they're really fighting this generation I tell you that.

Loudninja6067d ago

But its not helping at all, they are doing worst everyday

fjtorres6067d ago

...because the japanese console gaming market is flat and the rest of the world is growing. So the companies realize they need *export* sales. And that means targetting the consoles that sell *outside* japan with games focused on what sells in those markets.
They can't stay insular and just shovel out whatever sells in Japan on a take it or leave it basis.
Capcom figured it out first and did it right with Dead Rising and especially Lost Planet and made a bundle.
The owners of Naruto took notice and *split* the gaming licenses for Naruto between japan and the rest of the world. Who got the export license? Ubisoft. Result: coming next month to a 360 near you, a 360-exclusive Naruto.
The japanese gamer no longer generates enough revenue for japanese developers to ignore the rest of the world. And making money from outside japan means targetting PC gamers and 360.

WilliamRLBaker6067d ago

fj has the best explaination so ill just agree with his and squallsan below or post # 53.

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10 Weirdest Video Games of All Time

Plenty of unforgettable games have completely messed up their players throughout the years, all the way back from the PS1 days to the dark recesses of the modern internet.

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JonTheGod1d ago

Why are the Katamari games not on the list??

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 20h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga23h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 20h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde1d 3h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 18h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 18h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 18h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam1d 22h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 19h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional