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Xbox 360 Failure Rate Now Less Than 4%

SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected. Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death.

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FishCake9T45257d ago

Thats really good. I might just have to pick me up a new Elite. I wonder what the PS3 fanboys will argue about now?

randomwiz5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

well, you shouldn't really worry about failure rate if you're getting a 360 today, the 3 year warranty is a nice cushion, since next gen will come out by the time the warranty is over.

but, this 4% failure rate is only within one year of purchasing the console
Within 2 years, the failure rate becomes 23.7%

AGAIN - this is a survey of 2500 ps3's, 2500 360's, and 11000 wii's, so these numbers should not be taken for fact.

komp5257d ago

This is what we will argue about now....

4% failure rate is because no one is buying the device anymore.

Less sales = less failures.

/disagree shield up

kaveti66165257d ago

500 units is not a large enough sample to make an accurate prediction of the whole population. 3,000 wasn't enough either.

I doubt the 360s failure rate is 4 percent, and I doubt its 54 percent or even 33 percent at this point. At most, I think it's at 15 percent, but I have nothing to back that up, just a feeling. At best, 12 percent.

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GOWIII35257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

They will say

-bu bu bu bu it's fake!
-my blog says their research is wrong and our speculation is right
-but the word of my angry ignorant rant is right because we need it to be
-bu bu what about the older ones, what's the percentages on those right now
-Lets find some RROD on youtube to prove their findings are false.
-LOL
-Sure
-Yeah right!
-hmmmm
-MSFT payed
-Bots lie

Just kidding, great news.

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jib5257d ago

"4% failure rate is because no one is buying the device anymore. "

that made no sense. do you know how percentages work?

Why o why5257d ago

i know you dont believe this any more than you believe the 60% one...lets be real.

ukilnme5257d ago

Hey Why.

I believe this 4% crap as much as I believe my Oakland Raiders will win the Superbowl this season.

Lifendz5257d ago

this many years after launch the RROD is still a prevalent problem. Hope MS finally got it right.

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kws10655257d ago

there was not many games to play this year.

I mean how it can be broken if you don't use it.

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tatotiburon5257d ago

1.11@

Did you know that if i turn on my xbox 360 without the video cable it will get RROD?...and wow do you believe any crap that youtube shows?....i can have an old xbox 360 with RROD and simple change the case.

HolyOrangeCows5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

It's so low by their findings because the customers send it in to MICROSOFT for repair for free. SquareTrade just ends up being a middleman that is easier to avoid.

And from my findings between me and my friends, the 360 seems to tend to get the RROD 1 and a part of a year in, not often in less than a year.

And the funny part is that the title of the article he's sourcing starts:
"Xbox 360 failure rate 23.7%...."
It's only the sub-heading that says:
"first-year 360 failure rates now under 4%"

HolyOrangeCows5257d ago

4 rings = Improper connection/Loose or broken or not connected cables.
3 rings = Red Rings of Death.

Blaze9295257d ago

lol @ all the reports on this submission. Trying to block the truth?

ukilnme5257d ago

@ kws1065

Multiplatform titles don't count now?

mikeslemonade5257d ago

Well considering more people play PS3 and Wiis a lot more it's not going to red ring as much. If you play 360 more than a few hours a day then it will red ring.

GUNS N SWORDS5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

@ 1.11

4% of old ratio would still translate to something, so you're still going to see people post vids on youtube.

i mean people make youtube vids of dead wiis, ps3s, and DSlights yet their failure rates were low to begin with.

HolyOrangeCows5257d ago

Let's see...
-Deceptive title (It's 4% for first year, 23% overall)
-Duplicate story (It's just a blog bringing up an old article and spinning it and falsifying it)
-Old (The article is from September)

Yep, nothing to report here....if you like Old, deceptive, duplicate, spun stories as your "News"

-Seven-5257d ago

Well, this is indeed hopeful. Now MS, consider this in your future console, reliability is right up there with game quality.
If these figures are indeed accurate, it's good to know that new 360 owners are far less likely to encounter HW problems.

(wow at the disagree, i'm being completely positive here kids, why somebody would disagree with somebody saying that this article is a good sign of improvements is beyond any logic or reason)

ukilnme5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

@ HolyOrangeCows

Old, deceptive, duplicate and spun stories as news has been the N4G way for years now. Haven't you approved some of it when it was to your liking?

@ darkride66

It does not happen often but I agree with you. As for the Wii, it's a phenomenon.

Anon19745257d ago

However, if it's true, Microsoft should confirm it. I know plenty of people who have bought PS3's since the price came down who may have gone for the 360 if it weren't for the hardware issues.

That being said, I still think the PS3 is the better value, but if you don't have the extra hundred bucks and don't care about the fees for online, the 360's a nice little system for $200. It's ten times the gaming console the Wii is for the same cost. Still mystifies me why anyone would pick a Wii over the 360 at this price.

-Seven-5257d ago

With percentages reports, it has always been only that site with supposed hard numbers, so to speak. Funny gamers are choosing what is real or not, or saying "well that's just them" when the percentage they don't like are being reported.
Lets believe that "one report" from that "one site" as fact, because it has the high percentage we're looking for. Lets chose random polls done by bloggish sites and ignore the research or warrenty companies.

4Sh0w5257d ago

Well I didn't know it was this low, but either way everybody except fanboys knew the 360 reliability has been significantly better over the last year. Great news for gamers.

Tinted Eyes5257d ago

Only 500? Wow talk about a huge sample, lmfao only in xbox fanboys dreams the failure rate will be that low.

sikbeta5257d ago

Instead of say something positive about this article, they start with:

"-I wonder what the PS3 fanboys will argue about now?"

WOW, you can't live without PS3 owners, don't you guys

Well, if make you feel better...

badz1495257d ago

wow, just wow! defending a console with proven high failure rates to THAT extent...what are you? M$ PR team?

"...and wow do you believe any crap that youtube shows?....i can have an old xbox 360 with RROD and simple change the case."

for what? to be cool? RRoD is a new cool trend now?

I'm a PS fan (fanboy? maybe...) myself but will never ever defend Sony for any misconduct if any! I've got YLoD once with my launch 60GB and I was upset! although I've fixed it myself and it's working like usual now, I'll never ever say that anyone with a YLoD is fake and am glad to offer help if needed. just stop the blind fanboyism already if you may!

kws10655257d ago

I said "Not many games" not "No game."

Not-Many-Games including multiplatform, and you do know that 360 doesn't have games in 2009 as many as 2007 or 2008, don't you? Less operation less failure.

R6ex5257d ago

Careful!

My Jasper Elite died within 9 months.

Same goes for my '05 360 i.e. within a year.

So, statistically, its 100% 1st-year failure rate for me so far. :(

ukilnme5257d ago

@ kws1065

Sure there weren't too many 360 exclusives but there were plenty of multiplatform games.

Guitarded5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

I have never had any disc based system last me more than a year and a half before having to repair or replace it at my own cost. That includes two PS2s in less than a year.(PS2 fat 90 day warranty FTL) I have had 3 360s in three years and only paid for one. As far as I am concerned RRoD saved me money. How could anyone possibly be angry about or not understand that?

ShadowCK5257d ago

Lol at the PS3 Fanboy comments. They need the Xbox 360 failure rate to be high for the sake of their own sanity because then they wouldn't be able to bash it as much as they normally could.

Fun Fact: New Xbox Live Experience + Better cooling systems = Reduced Failure Rate.

wxer5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

4% my @ss

so what the 360 now is more reliable than the wii ???

lol

Why o why5257d ago

lol at ur reply....good sport...as usual

whothedog5257d ago

@1.11

That sucks majorly, I would have a hard time justify getting another one.

WildArmed5257d ago

lol they'll think of something.

But thats great to hear.
I think i may have to send my 360 in before my warranty dies for the jasper chipset.
sounds bloody awesome.
(but nevertheless, the sample size is rather small)

caladbolg7775257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

I say this as an employee of Microsoft Game Studios since 2006.

It's not that 360s are more reliable (they aren't), it's that the RRoD, which signifies a general hardware failure, has been replaced by an E74 error screen

"General hardware failure" wasn't fixed. People aren't getting RRoDs nowadays because Jasper chip 360s no longer red ring. They E74. Same error, different display.

This article faceplants because it's not asking the right question. They're asking "How many current model (Jasper) 360s are red-ringing?" The answer: none of them. The question should be "How many current model (Jasper) 360s are failing due to general hardware errors?" The answer: just as many as previous models.

FACTUAL evidence5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

But i'll sum it up for you. 4% RROD, 56% E-74. Oh yeah, almost forgot! I'll believe this when MS actually puts up a survey, or if Aaron greenburg blabs it out. Ciao!

jadenkorri5257d ago

its just another website doing a survey, last time i recalled the last survey to be trash and everything when they said it was like 50 % and a larger number of 360s.... oh yeah this is news and accurate because it looks better at 4%...

fear885257d ago

I find it hard to believe that the 360 wasn't made to break. If you look at the design of the system itself, namely the xbracket that holds the heatsink, its clear that it was made to bend the board due to excessive play. Disagree all you want but after fixing my 360's RROD I know for a fact it is true.

DevastationEve5256d ago

Good to know :) PS3 fanboys will disagree...

wpggamer5256d ago

Do you guys know anything about sample sizes and testing in general? Without knowing the mfg process and lot sizes, there is no way you can make statements about what an appropriate sample size is. There needs to be repeatability or SPC done in order to determine this stuff. Stat's and QA testing is much more than just a feeling, it's a science. Not saying this sample is large enough, but it might be. You really have to know what you're talking about, not just guessing. That's the differnce between science and opinion.

ASSASSYN 36o5256d ago

No survey should be taken as fact!

vhero5256d ago (Edited 5256d ago )

If its true then good for MS but I doubt they will ever shake off the RROD now. It's gonna live with the console till it dies. I have still had 3 360's die on me and swore to never buy one again (1 DVD drive failure, 1 RROD) and I won't. In games shops now I see the main reason people buying PS3's has changed from RROD fears to free online gaming instead. So it's not as bad as it used to be for MS. But the silly high RROD rates will always be part of the 360's history and will always hold it back in the future. Just not as much now :p. Maybe now they will stop with the fake PS3 and Wii death rates now they not giving fake 360 death rates??? I doubt it though...

edgeofblade5256d ago (Edited 5256d ago )

I'm sure a 500 unit test would be sufficient for you if it showed the failure rate going up...

Statistically speaking, a 500 unit test is plenty valid.

@ASSASSYN 36o: Don't these casual surveys usually bias toward failure? Isn't everyone looking for a chance to stick it to Microsoft? For all I know, this could be the first valid study, while everything else has been an internet poll...

Anon19745256d ago

A few posts above a good point was brought up. I had a look at the graphs for this study and they were only concerned about RROD. What about E74? New models may not suffer from rrod as much, but if Microsoft simply replaced one error with another and Squaretrade didn't bother to track the new error - well that's just plain old misleading.

With that survey that Cnet did recently, out of the amount of respondents that complained about 360 hardware failure, 25% of those respondents reported that they had bought newer, Jasper models indicating that the bulk of the problem was certainly with older models but the Jasper boards certainly weren't error free.

I think Microsoft should come clean with this if they fixed this issue so gamers who are concerned about hardware can view the 360 as a serious choice, but I realize why they don't. By releasing stats on hardware failures, Microsoft can kiss those 360 lawsuits against them goodbye. I assume that's why we've never seen numbers on this. Microsoft has a history of repressing data they aren't happy with. We've seen it when 360 sales drop year over year and Microsoft stops reporting that data on quarterly reports until things pick up again. By releasing actual 360 failure numbers, it would show just how bad the problem is. I imagine soon we'll find out though, as the courts will eventually force them to reveal these numbers in one of the many pending lawsuits.

syanara5256d ago

it's ABOUT GOD DAM TIME! this FAILURE rate problem of the RROD is FINALLY at 4% this problem that should never have existed in the first place. of course that is the RRoD not even E74 so the RRoD is at 4% then where is E74 at? cause to my knowledge that is still a bigger problem then the RRoD

robep35256d ago

.....they sample 500 units lol thats as bad a make up and shampoo companies you cant judge it from such a small sample LOL.

Rob.

ThanatosDMC5256d ago (Edited 5256d ago )

^ Actually a sample size of one 500 units from 30 or so million units is too small. You need several 500 unit sample sizes to get a legit survey. Population genetics 101.

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ipwnall5257d ago

500 consoles and only about 6-8 months (maybe less). Let me conduct another experiment. My PS3 hasn't broken since launch, and I know thousands who also have a perfect PS3, this PS3 failure rate = 0%

Snake Raiser5257d ago

Ya something has got to be wrong with a least one, more likely both polls that have come out recently. The 360 either has a failure rate of 4% or 52%. Obviously someone messed up their poll.

Bungie5257d ago

360 = 4%
ps3 = 12%

here comes the tears

Mr Face Creamer5257d ago

You know thousands who have a perfect PS3? Been playing too much Home and with the Facebook app little droid?

cereal_killa5257d ago

I believe that as much as I believe that you think you work for bungie. both of those predictions are very delusional the 360 is no where near 54% anymore but it's certainly not that low either.

nightelfmohawk5257d ago

SquareTrade only analyzes Xbox 360 warranty claims submitted to them. They acknowledged in their other study that the vast majority of Xbox 3FixMe owners send their 360s directly to M$ and not SquareTrade when their 360s inevitably break down.

That means SquareTrade doesn't even know how many broken 360s are sent to M$. Also, these new Jaspers are too new to draw any conclusions about any alleged reliability. Remember the massive influx of broken 360s right when the first 3 year warranties expired?

ZippyZapper5257d ago

Cry more PS3 girls you cant use RROD anymore... to bad... so sad... now it's back to playing the only 2 games you got coming out in 2010.

DonCorneo5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

we still have:
1. blu-ray
2. best exclusives
3. better looking multiplatform games
4. free online
and, just rececntly TEH SALEZ!

failure rate dropped because bots aren't turning on the 3fixme anymore. mainly because bots have no games..

LMAO!!1!

user39158005257d ago

PS3 = 17% FAILURE hardware, but BLU RAY its 100% failure
360 = < 1% failure rate

PS3 owners are still on denial stage for the rest off their fandroid life.

Aquarius5257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

""the first 5 months of 2010 are pathetic for M$ in comparison to SONY's"

you clearly can't read between the lines ;)
FF?
HAHAHAHAHA- where is the fanbase for FF on 360? where is it?

Oh and btw-
ME2 gimped now its an average 360 port
SCC gimped now its an average 360 port ( for all we know M$ could have been playing SCC on a high-end Pc at E3 )
Alan Wake hasn't got the name HALO in it so expect FLOP because 360 owners don't like to branch out of the FPS genre. Forza 3 says Hi"

MODS WHY ISN'T 1.5'S COMMENT IN THE GAMERZONE DELETED?

arsenal555257d ago

they forgot the 5 in front of the 4.. lol still tons of people getting rrods... only a matter of time until all you bots here get it again.

play behind.. wait.. after the rrod you wont be able to PLAY at all!! LOLOLOLOLOL

arsenal555257d ago

" (after all they did only look at 500 Jasper consoles, not a very large sample size)"

lol fail

54% rrod worldwide

wxer5257d ago

4% ?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
bots can dream

r0s3b0wl235257d ago

This article is ridiculous. Multiple trusted third parties like GamePro and many others have confirmed the 360's failure rate to be 20% to over 50% in their own case studies. The people who made this article have zero credibility, smells fishy to me.

TengkuAmir105256d ago

360 sucks. i had a 360. no. i had 6 actually. all of them were brand new. and ALL of them came from different shops and ALL of them died of RROD. the last two were Jasper set. and did i mention that all of them were elites? it costs me so much. now, i'm waiting for my PS3 this Christmas along with 5 other games. MS WARRANTY you say? forget it. my country (MALAYSIA) doesn't support that. and to add, i bought the Quick charge kit, play n charge kit, battery packs but now, im just gonna give it away for free.

Pirateogta5256d ago (Edited 5256d ago )

So 5,000 fanboys responding to a Game Informer survey where you don't actually have to prove you even own the console that you claim broke down on you is more reliable than an actual scientific study? I guess you get pretty delusional when you've been with the last place console for 3 years and counting now. Only 7 million more units to go to catch up to the 360 and steal SECOND PLACE! A few more $100 price drops and complete remodelings of the system (think: PS3 Lite, PS3 Trim, PS3 Even Slimmer, PS3 Anorexic) should do the trick by 2015.

cliffbo5256d ago

Bungie you are a sad sad man and i will fully enjoy it next year when MS get their ass kicked by Sony. and don't doubt it my friend, this year has shown you that

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Noob5257d ago

That's only with SquareTrade.com. Nice try.

GOWIII35257d ago (Edited 5257d ago )

With percentages reports, it has always been only that site with supposed hard numbers, so to speak. Funny gamers are choosing what is real or not, or saying "well that's just them" when the percentage they don't like are being reported.
Lets believe that "one report" from that "one site" as fact, because it has the high percentage we're looking for. Lets chose random polls done by bloggish sites and ignore the research or warrenty companies.

Immortal3215257d ago

but something missing....
xbl should not be the reason to get a 360, it should be a bonus.

but what's missing...?
right games the 360 doesn't seem to have console defining games

Zeevious5257d ago

It's covered by a three year warranty...why would SquareTrade see any of the 2007, 2008 or 2009 models with this failure?

Where are the polling details? 500 New units purchased by SquareTrade or some third party? Actively used or sitting on a shelf, or a distributors warehouse?

This is as misleading as the Yellow Light Of Death sweeping the PS3 community. Microsoft & Sony both know these numbers, to the console. Sony immediately provided facts for theirs...fewer than 1/2 of a single percent.

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

The actual, accurate failure numbers are no mystery to Microsoft, Sony, or SquareTrade.

SquareTrade or Microsoft could also -- with a click, release the ACTUAL numbers & percentages of units receive and why...

...Without the smoke and mirrors statistics.

DevastationEve5256d ago

Well all the other studies were "just" from one website or source study as well.

Nice try.

Actually each previous attempt at PS3 fanboys further besmirching Xbox 360 were also nice tries.

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 14h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 11h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 11h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 6h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 13h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199219h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d 13h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 12h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 7h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 6h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 6h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier19h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan10h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1011d 16h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 16h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 5h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 15h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 14h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d 13h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 6h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein2d ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno1d 22h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson1d 20h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu1d 21h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson1d 20h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -