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PS3 outperforms Xbox 360 for EA

Both PC and PS3 prove more profitable platforms than Xbox for EA in quarter ending June 30th

Whilst it was the Wii, thanks to the success of EA Sports Active, that really shone for EA in its latest fiscal quarter, just as big a surprise is the fact that the publisher's PS3 returns far outstripped those coming from Microsoft's Xbox 360.

gaffyh5378d ago

This is quite surprising if I'm honest, I'd have expected PS3 revenue t be less seen as you know, PS3 owners don't buy games. /sarcasm

Syronicus5378d ago

This is no surprise to me since it has been reported before in the same manner last year.

Clap Your Hands5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

As Syronicus said, this is actually not such an big surprise. Several companies (Ubisoft, Capcom, Namco, Konami etc.) last year also showed that they earned more on the PS3.

But it does seem a bit strange to me that the company (MS) with apparently the most consoles on the market, and which constantly states that its selling so many more games then the competition, in fact doesn't sell more games then the competition...

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xztence5378d ago

Playstation is associated with enough franchises to be the better performer for quite a lot of company's.
Just goes to show how powerful the brand is.

Syronicus5378d ago

Does Sony have fewer fees to publishers when obtaining games for the PS3 console than Microsoft or Nintendo have for their platforms? If that is the case, then how do they do it? I would expect that Sony would have more fees due to BD since it is the newer format but with these articles it shows otherwise.

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PAPERCHASER03965378d ago

The Ps3 does not get modded... The games are not copied like the Xbox... The hard drive only works in one particular console and cannot be swapped therefore eliminating any chance copying so that leads to more sales of software and profit for developers with the Ps3 and less theft.

Time Lord5378d ago

The difference is huge! The only explanation I can think of, is the strength of the Euro and the Pound compare to the Dollar, as we all know PS3 games sell better in Europe.

Syronicus5378d ago

Piracy on the 360 is that bad? Yikes!

leila015378d ago

I hope this means PS3 will be getting Mass Effect and sequels.

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DelbertGrady5378d ago

Why do you always comment on the disagrees if they don't bother you?

On topic: Surprising news. I thought the 360 would have more revenue since it has a larger install base than the PS3. Congrats to Sony!

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morganfell5378d ago

Does this mean EA is going to state that if Microsoft doesn't drop the pirce of the 360 then they may have to reconsider their support of them?

leila015378d ago

Seriously, that Activion CEO is retarded

silvacrest5378d ago

"m guessing most of the Europeans by 360s because they can pirate it"

LMAO @ sack boi, the 360 pirate issue is world wide and until you can prove the quoat above your just pulling opinions out of your ass and generalizing european gamers

also

"you could "disappear" right now and no one will even notice."

honestly i think you would probably notice more then anyone else

morganfell5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

Unless something happens between now and the year end, that Activision CEO will take home the trophy for utter stupidity in a public comment.

BTW:

http://www.joystiq.com/2009...

hotdawg5378d ago

Could it be that the difference in sales has something to do with the disposable income of 360 owners vs PS3 owners. I don't know a single person who only works part time that owns a PS3. All the PS3 owners I know personally all have full time jobs. Probably a fourth of the 360 owners I know are employed full time.

OmarJA5378d ago

Looks like PS3 owners buy more games then the 360 owners...

Well that good for EA either way.

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evrfighter5378d ago

"the reason why I bring up disagrees/agrees is because of the fact it seems to be a favorite hobby of 360 fanboys who can't even tell me why they disagree"

lol so you, who always responds like you don't care when you get disagrees (or at least try and pretend to not care). only do this because an xbox fanboy or two didn't tell you why they disagreed?

lolol wtf? are you serious? I have no idea how that would justify getting butthurt when you a get a disagree but whatever helps you sleep better at night =\

DelbertGrady5378d ago

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps people on this site disagree with you just to get that reaction? Maybe if you stopped commenting on the disagrees you would get less of them?

It's easy to excuse the disagrees with everyone being '360 fanboys' and 'cowards' though. Instead of accepting that some people just don't feel the same way as you and disagree because they think what you write is wrong.

gamerdude115378d ago

Here are the non-GAAP numbers. It is a better reflection of each platform's performance.

http://investors.ea.com/rel...

Wii 184
360 136
PS3 99
PS2 20

gamesR4fun5378d ago

the ps3 cant play hacked games?

anh_duong5378d ago

actually the reason is not just the number of games sold but the average selling price of the games.

in the USA, where xbox is more dominant, the average ea game sells for a lot less dollar than in europe where the ps3 is more dominant.. and even though the xbox is dominant in the uk, the average selling price of ea games in the uk is very low (in dollar terms).. also in europe and middle-east - especially southern europe, software piracy is quite rampant.. software piracy affects the xbox more in these regions (i.e. middle-east) which traditionally sell games at a very high price..

furthermore, the average dollar price of a game in japan is quite a lot compared to the USA - another region where the ps3 is dominant.

so even though ps3 might sell fewer games it actually generates more revenue per game sold.

it's all about the revenue/game that is responsible for a lot of the discrepency.

indysurfn5378d ago

wow PS3 has about 40% less installed base but sold more for EA. That is great. Lets not get too excited because, it is not the rule but the exception. Wonder which games put them over the top? There is a known fact that there are more children on the xb0x360, and children play outside more, and the fact there is summer school break, so there should be a drop. That being said I bet EA had more adult games to appeal more to PS3 owners because ps3 has the oldest crowd. I hope it has nothing to do with the fact that EA lost the lead as the biggest 3rd party publisher. But I brush it off until I see it happen in one of the big quarters. If it happens in the fourth quarter, this will cause things to change especially with a price drop coming. And a slim, you can have gow3, and gt5, and even uncharted as long as I get a ARC the LAD! Or one of Sony,s other turn based rpg's.

NeoCloud5378d ago

Piracy is One of the Reasons but its not the only reason, I think Fifa could one of the reasons, Its really popular in Europe, especially on the Playstation.

Greywulf5378d ago

The rest of us.. *yawn*

DOOOMED DOOOMED

IdleLeeSiuLung5378d ago

To add to his statement which I agree, the strongest regions for Playstation is also the regions (Europe and Japan) where Sony can charge more money for each game due to currency and higher operating cost.

Every month we consistently see that NPD numbers show that 360 outsell the PS3 almost always in games. Unfortunately we don't get these numbers for Europe so it is hard to tell.

Another thing I noticed is that PS3 games tend to not fall in price as fast as 360 games. I almost always find the 360 version on sale before the PS3 version. I think there is a lot more competition on the 360.

Blaze9295378d ago

It's like this all the time. This quarter we have NCAA Football, NBA Live, NCAA Basketball and Madden NFL 09. Now watch the Xbox 360 come back right on top. It's like this all the time with EA; when a FIFA game etc comes out PS3 slams on top again.

killersmoke5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

Maybe cause xbox owner can't stand EA, I can't stand EA, atleast there sport games and won't buy them new.

EA's only games that are good are companies they bought and are using to actually make something other than sh-t.

IaMs125378d ago

Also take in consideration the underlying facts. MS may have a different deal with those companies. Example, im not saying this is how it really is this is just an example, im not sure how they really do it but anyways. Whenever somebody buy a game for the PS3 sony may get say 55% of the price on it and then the Publisher gets the rest. Now MS may have a deal that they get 66% of each game instead. In the end the publisher is getting a bigger slice of the pie with Sony then MS.\

Thats my theory, correct me if im wrong :)

Ive come to not believe numbers and not to live by them. Who cares if Xbox is outselling PS3 or PS3 is outselling Xbox i really dont. Just bring me the games ive come to love and play and im all for it :)

DG5378d ago

Well considering you take the quarter of the year when no big releases are made what else were you expecting. How about using the 2nd 3rd or 4th quarter when all the big sports titles come out and not to mention the holiday rush. But glad Ps3 is making some money and catching up.

Nineball21125378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

It's great the EA is getting some major sales numbers from ALL the platforms, eh?

cmrbe5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

1. NA is not the world. Shocking!!!.

2. EA is a well know brand to the PS fanbase. If you guys see Burnout, FNR4 etc they all preform well on the PS3 despite having a smaller installbase. FNR4 for example last NDP showed that the PS3 version trailed the x360 version by just 10k if i remember correctly despite the fact that there are 7 million more x360 in NA. In Europe i am sure the PS3 version preforms much better.

3. EA games have been quality lately, PS fans buy quality.

4. Piracy on the x360.

5. PS3 gamers buy more games and not just movies. Shocking!! lol.

For those that are using the FIFA excuse. Didn't MS said they are ahead in Europe as well?.

The xbox brand still has a long way to go. Their strength still revolves around shooter based games and the western market. Its still has a long way to go to achieve the level of success the PS brand have achieved in terms of attracting varied gamers from different regions with different gaming taste which has always been one of the PS brands greatest strength. It's why no PS game ever sold to 50% of the PS fanbase and why we see varied games from racing to 3rd action to JRPG's to Kareoke games lol! all doing 5 million plus numbers.

Kleptic5378d ago

I know the Acti CEO comments were retarded...but it doesn't matter...EA's PS3 performance illustrates just how powerful the PS brand still is...

and either way...the PS3 IS getting a price cut sooner rather than later...then this will really heat up...if Sony can get a ps3 under the $300 barrier by the end of the year, things are going to nothing but swing in Sony's favor for a long while...let alone if games like GT5 really do make it this year...

but PS3 slim at $100 less than available sku's now...with Uncharted 2, modern warfare 2, and the potential of a GT juggernaut all falling this year...that may finally be the end of ignorant 'its cool to hate the PS3' articles still popping up weekly...

DaTruth5378d ago

Only reason I care about these numbers and all sales numbers, is so I know my console will continue to have the support of devs and pubs! So these numbers are great and since the PS3 has sold more consoles in 2 yrs than XBOX1 and GC sold in their lifetimes , plus these companies keep reporting more revenue from PS3, I know the support will continue.

So, I guess I will never have to visit sales articles again! Lucky me!

P.S. I will also check to see how the Slim is doing(if it exists) and to see what effect the price cut will have!

akpenob5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

I Think you are looking at the wrong numbers, because the ps3 is ahead in revenue in FY09 and FY10

take a look again...

PLAYSTATION 3
FY09 197 Millions
FY10 121

Xbox 360
FY09 132 Millions
FY10 73

The Lazy One5378d ago

no. he said non-GAAP.

It's a section down and it's exactly the way he said it. I don't really care to look at what they do to make it not qualify as GAAP, but his numbers are correct for what he said they were.

JokesOnYou5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

I just think it has alot to do with the games themselves. Either way I'm surprised, I would of thought 360 easily would have earned more for EA than ps3. Sure would like to see a breakdown of the top titles. Also I'm sure Euro helps recover some ground but 360 often does better in the UK which is the individual largest Euro market. This is good news for sony selling more games for EA.

JOY

The Lazy One5378d ago

I really wish they broke down better. At the end they show the releases they had, and the best one was Fight night round 4, and the sales aren't that different globally.

All their other games were pretty crap for sales and sold similarly too.

mynd5378d ago

Good lord, people cant even read a reporrt correctly.
The Xbox360 made significantly more for EA, its under deffered revenue section.
They just havent been paid out for it yet.

Snyph3r5378d ago

Most friends I know doesn't buy the games for XBOX360...there is this thing called PIRACY!

AAACE55378d ago

Now I hope all those people who kept saying EA made crappy games will keep this mouth shut!

ikkokucrisis5378d ago

X = 31.46M total Xbox 360's sold

Y = working Xbox 360's = X - X/3 = 20.97M

Z = 23M total PS3's sold

Since Z > Y, and the profit margin is directly proportional to the amount of consoles still working, the PS3 sold more games this past quarter.

There, was that so hard?

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xztence5378d ago

who's gonna spin this one around.

Kill Crow5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

but, does the metric exist of how many actual games sold by each platform as apposed to the revenue ...

i.e. did PS3 make MORE revenue from less games sold, OR did it also sell more games?

that's a question you can't disagree dammit !!!!

lol , can anyone answer the question or you just disagree coz you're a homo?

Sir Ken_Kutaragi5378d ago

...i must order more Body-bags off Amazon later for the MASS-ChatBot Zombie Lemming Suicides that are coming!!! ;-D

Because we all know 'Them Red-Neck-Chav-Bots love them Sales'!!! ;-D

+ ALL 'EA' Games look better on the PS3 to;) + FREE On-line Play!!! ;)

El Botto5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

translate into higher sales.

"but, but, but 360 install base is still 7 million larger"

That is why I stated on multiple occasion that the RROD60s install base is INFLATED and the reality is that RROD60 is just a FEW million ahead of the PS3.

Furthermore, xbots dont have unlimited funds. And even though many xbots claim they buy more games, eventually they are just like wii and PS3 gamers: meaning they have LIMITED funds so they can only chose soo many games.

This theory simply means the following: if game X is bought by an xbot, game Y is automatically left untouched in the stores by the same xbot. Because xbot only has enough dough to buy one game.

Kill Crow5378d ago

you cna't have it both ways?

It's well known the Xbox has high attach rates. But you guys keep saying that the xbox 360 hardware sales are inflated because of RROD. But if that were the case the attach rate would actually be HUGE. if as you say thousands of people are buying multiple 360's because of RROD then it doesn't logically follow that they're ALSO buying more games for each new console does it.

So which is it?

RROD means Less hardware sales in rality but MONSTER attach rate - at least a thrid bigger than what currently reported

or

Hardware sales don't include RROD and xbox attach rate only marginially higher than PS3?

Choose?

El Botto5378d ago

Ladies and gentlemen, xbox stupidity shown right here!

Hey retard, do you buy a new copy of your existing games everytime your xbox dies?

In the wise words of Nelson: HA HAA!!

ThatCanadianGuy5378d ago

"Wii - $161m
PS3 - $121m
360 - $73m "

I think the bots better shut the f*ck up from now on.
It seems almost every major publisher is making more money from PS3 than 360.

Even with less consoles on the market.LOL!
Oh the shame..i would leave N4G for good if i was a 360 fanboy.

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SSCOOLCHEA5378d ago

People buys the big ol BOT to pirate games .....A lot of foreigners and people here do that because there broke so they don't have the mula to buy them . The ol bot is a piece of crrrrr*p

JasonPC360PS3Wii5378d ago

Oh WOW! droids are "playing sales" I think I will bookmark this page and use it next time a droid hypocrite says "we don't play sales" these comments are pure gold for future pwning.

WildArmed5378d ago

well atleast they aint defending crappy games with 'OMGZ it sold 5.5mil games!~ its the bestest game around"

cryymoar5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

http://i26.tinypic.com/27x2...

And that is what i have been saying all of this time too.
Those RRoD units CAN'T play games, that's why games like Resident evil 5 sold closer to 50-50 than the 65-35 it is supposed to.

@ Jason360
Well now the "droids" can play both sales AND games.
and you can play, uhm, what can you play? oh, SUPERIOR ONLINE!!! (AKA Cross-game chat/invite)

AngryTypingGuy5378d ago

Very true Jason 360, very true. They're hypocrites. Sales aren't important only when the 360 wins at something. I guess that means only EA's sales are important, right guys?

el zorro5378d ago

The extreme ps3 fanboys on this site are some of the biggest hypocrites ever. Sales don't matter, only when the PS3 is losing.

It's all "we don't play sales" ..until the ps3 generates a little more net revenue for one publisher and then it is suddenly "look how mighty the ps3 is".

juicyjuice5378d ago

@1 - I will see your LOL and raise you a LMFAO

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insomnium5378d ago

The PS3 almost doubled the x360 and you say "a little more"

JonnyBadfinger5377d ago

Well i dont buy EA games so maybe its my fault. i have 2 EA games out of my 20 games Bad Company and Burnout Paradise. Dont like the sport games that EA produce, simply because its all American sports that have no relevance here in australia.

PS3 owners need all the games they can get, especially with the lack of first party exclusives......... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

DROIDS GOT NO GAMES!

SO THEY GOTTA SETTLE WITH EA GAMES! LOL!

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Marty83705378d ago

PS3 out performs 360 for other publishers as well. It's a known fact.

ThatCanadianGuy5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

True, 100% fact.

Lou-Cipher5378d ago

Be nice guys

You remember how we felt when FF13 was announced as a multiplatform game, Well we just stole their favorite exclusive, you know that wonderful game called: SALES.

Now we get to play that AAAA exclusive game called SALES, and its not even a multiplat, it is 100% ONLY ON PS3. (not even a timed exclusive, OUCH)

JasonPC360PS3Wii5378d ago

No it isn't EA is the only one, you did have UBI but anymore... you just have one.

harpua5378d ago

"No it isn't EA is the only one, you did have UBI but anymore... you just have one. "

Am I the only one who can't understand a thing he is saying?

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PotNoodle5378d ago

I don't really think it is pirating that is effecting it as much, just that the PS3 is making up its software sales in europe.

It may seem surprising to us, but that is only because we see the US numbers - where the 360 holds the higher position. I'm sure if we saw the european software sales just like we see the US, then it wouldn't see as surprising.

raztad5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

Agree. WW PS3 does as good and in some cases better than xbox360. Look at consoles sales, 1.2m xboxes and 1.1 PS3s. Not wonder why Peter Moore is submitting articles to Playstation Blog hyping Madden 2010. Not wonder why EA says Home is powerful.

Clearly NA is NOT the world and those monthly NPD sales reports, which apparently spell doom for Sony are not so gloomy when WW sales are taken into account. It's funny because fans in this site really believe they know more than Sony how to manage their business.

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navyguy215378d ago

Since the majority of the games are Xbox 360 lead platform, the majority of the costs are placed under it. They do not split the revenue evenly between the platforms. The Xbox 360 is seen as having a higher cost in their books, and as a result generates less net revenue. The reality is that the Xbox 360 sells more, but it also costs them more since the project is seen as Xbox 360 lead platform. The result is lower net revenue. Think of it this way. In their books, the number of people working on the Xbox 360 versions of games far outnumbers the number of people porting to the PS3. Xbox 360 lead platform development works that way. You can't count the same person multiple times or find a way to split up his "cost" among the platforms, that is a poor accounting practice and not proper GAAP. So, the 100 people working on the core game would be counted as Xbox 360, and then the 10-20 people working on the PS3 port would be under PS3. But two drastically different figures result... The Cost of PS3 development is seen as far less costly in the accounts. The result is a difference in net revenue.

Take the non-GAAP net revenue figures in which the Xbox 360 is ahead of the PS3 by nearly $37 million.

In Millions:

Wii - $184 Million
Xbox 360 - $136 Million
PS3 - $99 Million
PS2 - $20 Million
PC - $255 Million

It is a long way down the page. Their Non-GAAP net revenue calculations seem to more accurately represent the worldwide market trends and sales of their games.

killersmoke5378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

Navy guy, very good point , this won't fly in here though.
people in here are not very intelligent and don't understand how it all works out. That would mean xbox made more money and they would not want to hear that.

no one will agree with a good point if it attacks the ps3.
they just want to recognize a bullsh=t win in there corner, normal for the ps3.
don't win, lye to your self.

umair_s515378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

You work for Microsoft?

GiantEnemyCrab5378d ago

"Since the majority of the games are Xbox 360 lead platform, the majority of the costs are placed under it. They do not split the revenue evenly between the platforms."

If that's true then these numbers are totally bogus and do not accurately reflect pure sales on the level the fanboys are trying to make it out to be.

Sounds pretty typical.

SaberEdge5378d ago

Navyguy nailed it. He has a very good grasp of how it works. Sadly, it will go over the heads of many people on this site.

Nineball21125378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

@ Navyguy21...

"You can't count the same person multiple times or find a way to split up his "cost" among the platforms, that is a poor accounting practice and not proper GAAP."

As a CPA, I can unequivocally state that your wrong with the second half of that statement. You absolutely can allocate a person's time among platforms/projects. You certainly can as long as there is a reasonable basis for it.

Not to mention, that according to all the Xbox loyalists... it's hell of a lot harder to code for the PS3 SO it must have taken MORE time to code and therefore it'd be MORE expensive on the PS3 platform. Right?

Of course, you can't count his labor / overhead multiple times as you said. You're correct there.

Then you said "Their Non-GAAP net revenue calculations seem to more accurately represent the worldwide market trends and sales of their games."

So... let me see if I understand.

You contend that they can't split a person's labor between platforms/projects how they see fit because that wouldn't conform to GAAP. In other words, if they want to accurately reflect their financials, they need to follow the rules of GAAP.

BUT, when it comes to reporting which platform had higher sales.... You're ALL about ignoring the GAAP numbers and using the Non-GAAP numbers.

Hmmm... interesting. I wonder why that is.

navyguy215378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

No i dont, but i minor is business economics (major is Computer Programming, want to be a game dev :) )and Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) is the term used to refer to the standard framework of guidelines for financial accounting used in any given jurisdiction. GAAP includes the standards, conventions, and rules accountants follow in recording and summarizing transactions, and in the preparation of financial statements. In short...

360 Version =
Revenue - Dev costs = Net revenue

PS3 version =
Revenue - PORT COSTS = Net Revenue

As you can see, the cost of PORTING a game is drastically lower that actually developing a game.........and is responsible for the monetary difference. Accountants use this method, not the number posted in this article to determine profit........or "Net Revenue"

EDIT @ Above

Look dude, dont go there with me, how just stating facts, how the CURRENTLY RUN BUSINESS PRACTICES IN GAMING are, and not the method you mentioned. Sure, not all business benefit from the GAAP method, but GAMING does, which is why it is used. Im not trying to be a fanboy here, i do own a PS3 you know, i was just trying to correct the errors in the article............THATS IT. I said nothing about EITHER platform. Had it worked in PS3s favor, i wouldve stated the same thing. Chill out dude, im not here for a fanboy war, im 27 years old, i dont have time for that crap

Nineball21125378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

Navyguy... stop... just stop.

You know a little bit about a topic (which is dangerous).

You (nor I for that matter) have any way of knowing HOW EA allocates it's labor / overhead / materials to their projects. Nor do you (nor I) know what projects are "lead" for which platform.

And again... based on your argument, then the GAAP numbers are the definitive numbers to go by which is what this article is talking about.

If, as you believe, GAAP is the "holy grail" to achieve logical financial numbers (and I tend to agree although there are some quirks with GAAP that alot of ppl don't understand), then the GAAP reported numbers are the ones everyone should go by.

Edit: Look "dude", don't spin things. I'll most certainly "go there" when someone is spouting off crap that isn't true. Like I said... a little knowledge is dangerous. You're not telling the truth, at least not the whole truth. I could give a rat's ass what platforms you own. This isn't about that. If you would have said the same thing about the PS3, I'd be saying the same thing as well...

The only thing I'm "upset" about is people spreading FUD, especially about what I do for a living.

On a side note... You're 27 years old and you're posting pictures of your gaming rig and KZ2 with the receipt. Well, damn. I guess you DO know what you're talking about! /sarcasm

umair_s515378d ago

No offense man, but why on earth are you defending Microsoft's sale figures? it's not like you work for them. Btw, I didn't disagree with you.

Kleptic5378d ago

agree with 2 up...

someone comes in who has obviously taken an introductory accounting class in college or something...moves into the 'pc' way of showing financial statements, then points to how 'inaccurate' they are out of pure speculation...non-GAAP accounting practices nearly always fall into that category, as they allow plenty of room for gray areas in terms of moving money in different directions...

there is ZERO proof or presented evidence of what games are leads on the 360...in fact last year EA stated that they would be making most games from then on as leads on the PS3 first, as that is more economically sound because of the radically different architecture of the PS3...which contradicts your entire statement...but it doesn't matter, as it has not been confirmed in either direction...

further...how EA handles division of labor, costs, and revenue allocation is NOT explained in detail within these documents...as it does not need to be...I am not saying what you said is incorrect...only that its not the entire story...you are jumping to a conclusion that fits a predetermined slant when you in reality are lacking a good bit of the information needed to get there...we all do it sometimes...

hesido5378d ago

Whether navyguy is right about gaap or non-gaap reflecting actual sales performance doesn't matter, it still invalidates Activision's take on not developing for PS3. You develop for PS3, and you will have more revenues, end of story.

DaTruth5378d ago

I'm sure EA's multi-million dollars worth of accountants have no idea how to properly account on EA's financials! Why do they not just call you? /sarcasm

I'm sure EA, Ubisoft, Capcom and Konami all thought of that before they made these announcements. Do you think they factor the actors and writers pay only to the 360 version?

umair_s515378d ago

Thanks DaTruth for seeing my point, I was thinking of posting this some time ago but I didn't want to embarass Navguy21.

uxo225378d ago

Revenue is the money that comes into your business. It does not take into account expenses and cash outflow. As a result, revenue is not a good measure of sustainable success. This is especially true when the necessary cost of doing business is high.

Profit is that money that your business retains after all expenses have been paid and accounts have been settled. Profitability (and not revenue) is a much more accurate measure of the potential sustainability of your business success.

Now I don't know what the cost to develop for the three systems are, but I'm almost sure it cost more to develop for the PS3 than it does for the 360. Once you add in all the intangibles, who knows what the profit margin (bottom line) would be. But a lot of you guys (including the writer of the article) doesn't understand the difference between profit and revenue.

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pure pwnage245378d ago (Edited 5378d ago )

I think Sony sony might've shown EA the Golden hand, by lets say they showed EA execs a PS3 slim, and said "dis thang gonna sell like hot cakes!!!" and thats why you see a ps3 in every EA commercial, if the commercials aren't about slimming down.

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Gary Green said: You’ll be forgiven if you haven’t heard of the Ar Tonelico trilogy. The previous two games arrived so late in the PS2’s life-cycle that they simply went unnoticed. While most were tinkering with their shiny new PS3s, Ar Tonelico: Melody of Elemia and Ar Tonelico II: Melody of Metafalica were being ‘returned to sender’ by your local Game stores. Luckily, you won’t need to have played them to understand and appreciate this third and final chapter, Qoga (pronounced k-yoga) tells the story of a racial war between humans and Reyvateils, a breed of biologically produced female cyborgs capable of reproduction, while still having a digital mind.

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Giga_Gaia3h ago

Oh my god. I kinda wish this would get a remaster on PS5, it would be awesome. One of my favorite games on PS3.

That and 3D Dot Game Heroes. It's a shame that some stuff is stuck on PS3.

Knightofelemia1h ago

Ar Tonelico 3 is good I still prefer the first AT game. The music is solid in all the games and Akiko Shikata is a very talented singer bringing life to the game. Only annoying part is well I find is Saki I always choose Finnel or Tyria. KOEI so needs to HD remaster the franchise along with Ar Nosurge and Ciel Nosurge since it never came to North America. I would day one the Ar Toneliceo games and Ar Nosurge if they were remastered.

TheColbertinator27m ago

I still have the limited edition of Qoga unopened. Unfortunately it never went up in value like I had hoped all these years.

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 6h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle17h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188115h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio14h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga17h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218316h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga15h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan11h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2310h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10119h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos19h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac18h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10118h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic16h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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