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Jaffe: I Would Not Have Included Blu-ray in PS3

In somewhat of a shocker, God of War creator David Jaffe has admitted that if he could change something about PS3, he would have removed its Blu-ray player and sold the console at a cheaper price. He also revealed that he might one day found his own independent studio. More within...

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zonetrooper56236d ago

Well i do agree with him that Blu-Ray should of not be included in the PS3, thats what delayed the console many times. It would also help the PS3 sell by the bucket load. For this generation i fell that Blu-Ray, HD-DVD and HDMI is not needed for this generation of consoles. I will say that it is needed for the next gen consoles such as the PS4, Xbox 720 and the Nintendo poo or whatever they are gonna call it.

shysun6236d ago

Blu-ray/HD-DVD and HDMI are needed this gen.....just not for gaming,maybe HDMI is though.

Tut6235d ago

Yeah this article was already posted and "somewhat" discussed. And by somewhat I mean maybe three people watched the video and then others tried to chime in without even watching it. =)

Goes to show you what a title can do for an article though.

Here is the link:

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

Keyser6235d ago (Edited 6235d ago )

I like what Jaffe did with GOW but he works for Sony. He is not Sony. That's like the guy at McDonalds who made the Big Mac telling McDonalds head quarters that they shouldn't have made the McRib. They would ask him politely to leave and remind him that they sign his check.

Sony has an overall strategy as we all know. They don't just make Playstations. They all distribute movies and a variety of other things. If they decide that they want to push bluray into the mainstream with the PS3they don't ask the devs if that's a good idea. They may say, "Hey, could you guys use more room to make games on?" The devs respond "Hell yeah!" and there you have it. Both parties are happy.

Seriously, Jaffe hasn't even made a God of War title on the PS3. From his tone about work you can tell that he does not want to go back into lab for a long period of time, on any system! He wants to make games in 13 months, an honorable way to make a living. You don't here Kojima, who is currently working on a large PS3 title, saying that he sure wish he had less space to work on.

From Jaffes point of view, making a game in 10-13 months, you probably don't need the space of bluray. For guys who want to make super-huge titles that completely immerse the participant with dazzling graphics and feats that defy your imagination, you're going to need more space.

Jaffe has been living in a 2,400sqft home and is ready for an apartment in Florida. He wants to spend some of that 401K money. Other devs want that mansion so they can put all their stuff where they want it.

Jaffe (10-13 month games) = doesn't need bluray
Kojima and others (2-5 years dev time) = bluray (and anything bigger if you got it)

This is not intended to disrespect what Jaffes stance is but merely a difference of opinion not shared by most of his Sony dev colleagues.

Personally, I like the bluray feature. Saved me from dropping $1000 bucks as well as buying a console. Hooray Sony. Do I wish it were cheaper? Of course! Who doesn't? I wish it was free and came with a game!!! Talk about a large gamer base then! I am old enough to understand the technology inside and how that relates to price an newness to the market. Bluray and HD players are $500+ because they are that awesome. They cost that much because the technology is new. Simple as that.

Sorry for being so long winded.

D3acon6235d ago

I agree with Keyser he basically said what I was going to point out. The comparison for the type of games that may need or may not need blu-ray, etc... Its true that Sony has a lot more resources to pull from than microsoft; music, movies, electronics. I think there is going to be some intersting things ahead in the playstation 3 life cycle with java script, movies,music, and games.

I believe this is the generation for blu-ray and high end storage devices, even microsoft agrees(360 elite) more and more people are getting high definition televission and radio so I do believe that Sony is taking the right steps.

artman6234d ago

no bluray mean piracy, see what happened with 360 & wii, it's already had a lot of pirated games... same as PS2 when using the first DVD-rom... while pirated PS1 was already spread anywhere.

blue-ray is just another next step~ and I'm sure that game dev. will not support piracy... it will be pirated, but not that soon... at least the company can still earn something at the beginning.

360 already got pirated less than a year... wii already got pirated less than 6 month... ps3? still lack of piracy... none~!
you can even find 360 & wii's game on torrent man...
now that's what I called a secure project (for now)
who want to upload a 50Gb files?? ok... that's too much... there is no game using that much of space yet... let see... 15Gb???

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techie6236d ago

What!? I know he said that...but we havent seen the rest of the interview! that was just the preview.

Blu-ray is a good deal...if only it was cheaper...in time in time.

eques judicii6236d ago

bluray and hd-dvd are a good deal and going to help things in the future... but i would still say it was a little early in the life cycle of the new format to put it in a console...

anyhow, here's to god of war!

techie6236d ago

UH-OH foot in mouth. You just called the PS3 a Blu-ray player! They're going to love that one...quick edit!

Sphinx6236d ago

Nice call... the PS3 is a Bluray player... moohaha!!!

zonetrooper56236d ago (Edited 6236d ago )

"UH-OH foot in mouth. You just called the PS3 a Blu-ray player! They're going to love that one...quick edit!"

Haha good one deepbrown, yeh the fanboys will come in a min and say the PS3 is a Blu-Ray player first and a gaming system second.

sajj3166236d ago

if its also a blu ray player also ... acknowledge it. Embrace it. Xbox fans could spin it all they want. I'm enjoying my Casino Royale in between my VF 5 sessions.

TheMART6236d ago (Edited 6236d ago )

VF5?

You mean that game without online features in the PS3 version? The features, the 360 version will have?

I'd rather have the best games and online service then some movies. That I play on a very high quality standalone player not on a gaming console.

You do know your drive will wear out sooner using movies right? A drive that is supposed to play GAMES

Siesser6235d ago

I thought the 360 version was just going to have online leaderboards? Was there more?

sajj3166235d ago

so I can't get a comment in without someone like you ruining my vibe. I could care less about the online feature. If the 360 has it, good for them. I just can't imagine that the precision will be there online. If you've played VF, you'll know what I mean. One second of lag could mean you loose the fight against a good opponent.

I've had the PS2 since launch and have played DVDs on it w/o problems. I had the PSOne when it launched and played CDs on it with no problems. I play Blu Ray movies on my PS3 ... yes I've heard of drive degradation but I'm not worried. I'm more worried about my 360 blowing up after my warranty is up.

So your indirectly saying that we (PS3 owners) shouldn't have Blu Ray on the PS3 because it could ruin our 'gaming' machine. Well, I didn't buy the PS3 just for games. Thats just me. If you bought the 360 for just games, golf clap for you .... oh and a biscuit.

I don't respect you at all so stop responding .... please. How is me playing VF5 related to this article ... stick to the point.

cuco336235d ago (Edited 6235d ago )

to 5.1, be honest now... how many times are you going to watch casino royale? i mean seriously... that's the reason why to me having BR isn't a worthy feature to own a ps3 or justify the cost. that and the price of BR / HD DVD discs themselves... the good ones go for $25-30 a pop! i love movies, but not THAT much... guess i'm the cheap bargain binner that enjoys getting a classic i'll watch once or twice a decade for $5-10. binding BR to the PS3 drives cost, these costs i and MANY others can't justify yet... i dont even think solid titles like MGS4, HS or GT would sway me towards that camp unless a price drop happens. i'm wii60pc right now, and like the fact the 360 plays dvds as well as dont care that the wii doesn't. i have a stand alone player for that. different strokes for different folks

besides, i'm one of the few thought thinks casino royale wasn't as good as the hype put it out to be. good movie, but not awesome

sajj3166235d ago

do I literally watch Casino in between my VF5 sessions? Come on now. I have other blu ray movies. I'm also excited about the possibility of upscaling my current DVD collection (when they decide to do it).

For me, money is not the issue. Heck, I own 2 HD tvs with one in my bedroom. If I decide to just buy HD movies, its my choice and $25/$30 might not hit me as hard as other people. I'm a high def buff, just my nature. I'm the guy who's pet peeve was 'jaggies' .. sorry, lol.

For me, I'm getting my $600.00 worth. As an early adopter, you either leverage every penny you spent or suck on wasted potential. That's why I don't understand why 360 owners (I am one myself) that are fanatics try to justify to me that my $600.00 is not worth it.

n4g sucks6235d ago

does anybody else here notice that theMART is a little B!tch....he b!tches and whines about everything...their is no proof that VF5 for 360 will have online vs mode. your just talking out your a$$...his only source is his wild imagination. i wish you had a ps3 so that when @home comes out we can all virtually d!ck slap you....slap...slap..slap...

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I Miss When Games Came In Full Package Rather Than Broken Mess Filled With Microtransactions

The gaming industry has drifted away from offering full-fledged games to putting unfinished titles that are jam-packed with microtransactions on the market.

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Christopher1d ago

It's not the fault of the gaming industry. Gamers were told what was happening, were warned about where this would lead, did nothing, and now are acting like it's the fault of publishers that they kept buying these games and investing in MTX. If only those gamers at that time felt as strongly about these things as they do Helldivers 2.

Hugodastrevas23h ago

I don't think MTX target the common gamer but instead predate on the so called "whales". It's gambling pure and simple.

Christopher22h ago

Oh, so it's okay to buy MTX-laden games as long as you don't spend money on MTX, which has led to even more MTX-laden games with even more predatory practices where content that used to be unlocked is now behind paywalls?

C'mon now people. You gave the corporations and inch, and they kept taking and taking. Community members told people that investing in these things alone would only lead to more and more MTX and putting more and more behind paywalls. But it's only the fault of the corporations, not the people who kept supporting it with purchases as more and more was taken away?

Hugodastrevas21h ago

@Christopher that's a straw man, I didn't say any of that I just added context.

-Foxtrot19h ago

Well exactly

People stand up for something which seems small to them and they get called whiners or negative. Then years later the shit hits the fan and they all go “why is this happening?” Like they are innocent.

The issue aswell is younger gamers who grew up with all this thinking it’s normal and we all just look like old farts yelling at clouds when we’re trying to help us all, even them.

Crows901h ago

Who woulda thought that listening to your elders could be a good idea...too late now

Hofstaderman29m ago

It all started with that damn horse armour. Back then I thought nobody was stupid to buy into that crap. How wrong I was....

Hugodastrevas23h ago

This is what amazed me the most when playing hours upon hours of stellar Blade version 1.00.00 no bugs, no crashes, no sudden drops in frames, no screen tear, no falling from the world, just a complete package on a game under 50GB.
I think Korea will play a major role in gaming in the long run , because they're releasing banger after banger.

isarai23h ago

Still pretty common to find if you stay away from the AAA publishers, in the last 10yrs ive probably only bought like 3 games combined from EA/ACTIVISION/UBISOFT. Even now i still buy games that work right out the box perfectly fine. Just recently got like 6hrs into Alone in the Dark, and not a single sign of any of that bs, really enjoying my time with it.

shinoff218315h ago

There's such a misconception about every game needing a patch,this and that when in reality it's not even close. You nailed it isarai

Crows901h ago

It's really only AAA devs and publishers that seem to have these constant problems

z2g2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

And we as gamers have to accept our role in that. Constantly never being satisfied. Constantly demanding more while paying less. Constantly demanding better frame rates, better graphics, more modes and faster faster faster…. Then review bombing the product when a demand isn’t met. Meanwhile those same demands are making games more difficult, complex and more expensive to create than ever before, on shrinking timelines that burn out employees and make their lives miserable.

You wanna know why so many games get delayed? Cuz the original release dates weren’t realistic to begin with, but you can’t tell a gamer their game is further away than they want to hear. Some dev or game designer will be threatened physically. That builds even more pressure and rushing. We are officially squeezing water out of rocks and still complaining about that how hard you have to squeeze the rock be just waiting for rain. Most of the time we take it out on the developing studio, when it’s the publisher making the calls.

All you need to do is read the comments on most websites and social media to see how toxic, entitled and petty the gaming community at large is, and realize how that transforms into impossible expectations on the parts of game makers.

Crows9057m ago

Nope. Some gamers are to blame. Never demanded anything you mentioned.

A fully finished and functioning product is a standard. It's not demanded. If someone sells you a tv that only works 60% of the time are you going to recommend it OR write a review calling out the obvious problem...it's not a demand...it's a standard.

A standard triple A publishers can't seem to hit consistently.

Kinza550122h ago(Edited 2h ago)

This is one battle that gamers have never won, hahaha. They were parading recently for their "win" against Sony. Where's the energy for this one, guys? LMAO!

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Let's Be Real, There Is Nothing "Micro" About Microtransactions Anymore

Microtransactions have gotten ridiculously overpriced in recent years, with titles now offering cosmetic skins worth more than some games.

Terry_B1d 19h ago

Yup..this is 100% the sad truth

z2g22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

The elephant in the room tho is personal accountability. It’s easy (albeit basic) to blame the big, bad corpo, but microtransactions wouldn’t be where they are if gamers didn’t spend money on them. As it stands the MTs usually make more than the game. Publishers know raising game prices will cause backlash, so they do MTs to compensate. But the adult conversation is consumers determine the success of products with their wallets. So if MTs are a huge thing, it’s because we as consumers told them we like them by giving them a lot of money for them. So if you don’t want them to be a thing, convince your fellow gamers to stop buying them and expect that games will be decently more expensive. You all can disagree all you want, but reality is a bitch, and eventually you have to live in it.

anast20h ago

Trying to convince people is the least realistic thing. If we are trying to be adults, actual action is what changes things not "convincing campaigns" on platforms owned by the people 'you' are going against. It's madness and idealistic.

ApocalypseShadow15h ago

Easier said than done. I've told gamers for years to not buy micro transactions, expensive dlc, etc. Gamers bought it anyway. Didn't fit on a DVD that would have fit on a Blu-ray disc.

I also told some gamers to not pay for online like Xbox Live because it would force the rest of the industry to only offer playing online if you pay for it. Told them not to support a broken console that Red Ringed. To not support Xbox One because Microsoft tried to take away game ownership and how you play your games. To not pay for a console by one manufacturer where a, now 3 trillion worth, didn't make enough games at the level of Nintendo or Sony who are worth less money.

How much of that did you support anyway with your money then go back and read your comment again.

notachance9h ago

yeah that was like telling people not to do drugs or alcohol, these game companies invested a lot of money in researching about how to make people buy MTs, from creating mechanics like loot boxes, purposely make the game grindy, all the way to menu designs and what color and sound effects played when gamers bought MTs.

It was specifically engineered to take advantage of vulnerable and prone to addiction people.

bradfh7h ago

@z2g
People always struggle with issues like drinking, drugs, and gambling. But in games, especially those played by kids, microtransactions are another way companies take advantage of them. It's a problem that needs addressing.

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S2Killinit7h ago

I recommend everyone read this article.

My suggestion is to name these transactions, what they ARE: Hidden-fees.

isarai1d 11h ago

I mean except for the amount of content you're paying for.

Hugodastrevas1d ago

There never was, the only time I paid for a microtransaction was on Blacklight Retribution (PS4) and it was because I enjoyed the game a lot so I felt the devs should get something for all that entertainment (€5 "membership")

-Foxtrot23h ago

The devs wouldn’t get that though, that shit goes straight to the higher ups who do f*** all let’s be honest.

Hugodastrevas22h ago

Probably, but I wasn't as cynical back then and €5 wasn't a big ask to get the guns with grinding instead of renting them, and the game was good (still is on the PS5/4)

CrimsonWing6922h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I couldn’t believe what Blizzard charged for horse armor and cosmetics in Diablo 4…

I remember back in the day when a season pass was $15 and you got everything included in it. Now, I see them at $60 and you still don’t get everything.

CantThinkOfAUsername15h ago

That's just Blizzard. Unlike Bethesda's $0.99 horse armour, Blizzard's first microtransaction, Sparkle Pony, cost $15.

Phoenix767h ago

Bethesda out did themselves a few years back with 76. They released a Xmas bundle for half price on day of release! So, was meant to sell for only $12 from day 1, but tried to convince everyone it was half price, by marking it at $24!

Shane Kim22h ago

As soon as gaming wasn't deemed nerdy anymore, and reached the casuals this happened. We're smart, but casuals play mobile games and other stuff, and don't really have anything to compare. They think gaming is supposed to be like this and pay for in game purchases.

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