Japan Has Gone too Far with Rape Simulation Game

With Jack Thompson, the longtime face of the anti-game-violence movement, recently banned from practicing law in Florida. There hasn't been any outcrys about video games in awhile. Well now is a good time to resurrect Jack Thompson from the cave he was buried in. Fresh out of Japan comes RapeLay, a rape simulation game.

[xabmol]

Here we go again...

Maybe another blogger can b*tch about my comments, misspell my name, and submit it as news.

xD

P.S.

It's a GAME! If it was a MOVIE no one would care. Manhunt didn't cause any murders and Rapelay still hasn't caused any rapes.

[Hated Greatness]

What are you even talking about

[xabmol]

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N...

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N...

[MisterNiwa]

Yeah, we should ban Japan out of Europe and America!

[Ghoul]

xabmol your taking yourself a wee bit to important.

oh and if you seriously think rapeporns ar ok, sorry then you really are a sick person.

i dont have a problem with these games, but your comment is nonsense.

[XxZxX]

should we invade japan or trade embargo because of this game?

Jack thompson is right, Rape is part of torture. All sick games that involve killing and torturing should be BANNED, you cant just ban one specific group. That would be double standard, you have to banned all.

[Tempist]

Someone is still trying to milk this? I'm calling dead horse raping on this writer. It's exposed, everyone knows and Amazon isn't selling it.

Why spend the time stalking to rape when you can do it virtually. I don't condone rape, but this is technically a better alternative for redirecting.

[IcarusOne]

The Japanese especially have always been much more into rape-themed entertainment than most. From their porn to their hentai games, this theme is rampant. I'm not excusing it. Just saying that this is the latest in a long line of games that are already ever-present and very easy to find on the internet.

[SaiyanFury]

I'm not saying there should be a big outcry here, but I'm not surprised Japan has these kinds of games. Japan is a heavily liberal country that is much more open to things like this than more down to earth places like North America. Although personally, I'd never let my kids see this kind of thing.

[stephen2005]

@Xabmol:

I still disagree with you. The fact that you think rape porn, rape games, rape anything is okay.....means I pretty much hate you. The end.

[velaxun]

I'm with Xambol, not this again. We've dealt with it once, everybody has different opinions blah blah blah kill this article with fire

[nycredude]

This rape game shiat is getting blown out of proportions. First of all the games aren't even violent. It is mostly of the groping type! Second of all people of all races have rape fantasies, it's just fantasies people! People of all generations also like many other IMO gross stuff like beastiality, scat, choking, gagin, puke eating and all kinds of nasty shiat. let's not pin it all on the Japanese!

BTW have anyone seen the new remake of the Last House on the Left? There is a rape and murder scene in it that is absolutely f*&king appalling!!!!!!!, and yet not a word or article on that. Give me a break!

[JD_Shadow]

Uhh...he never did say he condoned the act, only that it hasn't really contributed to the amount of sexual crimes in the world. Maybe if you read his post, you might've caught that.

[rockleex]

This is his quote: "It's a GAME! If it was a MOVIE no one would care."

What he's saying is that rape porn, or even movies that show rape scenes, are accepted by the general public. Because there's a rating system that allows parents and adults to know whats safe for their children to see.

But suddenly games cannot have rape scenes even though these games are rated Adults Only.

So what's all the commotion about? Simple. Its because Americans still think ALL video games are for kids, therefore NO games can have killing, rape, or even boobs for God's sake! If they took the video game industry as seriously as their porn or movie industries, then none of this commotion would stir up.

It doesn't even matter that the game's ratings CLEARLY say that its for adults only. Adults can handle rape scenes in porn and movies, therefore adults should be able to handle rape scenes in games too.

At the end of the day, we have a choice of whether to watch that rape porn/movie or not, or to play that rape game or not.

My personal opinion is that rape porn should be banned too along with rape games. But rape porn will never be banned, so to keep the standard the same, rape games shouldn't be banned either.

PS: Its not like Japan's the only weird place that has rape porn, trust me, the American porn industry has lots of it too.

[lolol123]

i think rape games sound fun and i would love to see more come out

[fusionboxer]

not that we should ban this or ban that or even mind our own business.

What the problem here is that if you go to one extreme then decide to swap your gonna swap to the other extreme if that makes any sense.

If we were to ban this game then what else would be banned that contained rape, torture, or any sort of violence in general.

I'm not trying to defend this game about rape, but I am trying to defend our basic freedoms. If I want to draw a picture of me punching soulja boy in the face then I expect to be allowed to do so. If we as a society jump to the extreme and ban everything that contains torture or any sort of violence then we'd have to say good bye to a ton of amazing movies, comics, tv shows, etc.

Basically I say who cares. I don't see this hurting anyone. I read that the games been out a while and I don't see a huge influx of rapes in Japan. If anything there are far more rapes going on here then in Japan despite what these stupid japanophiles around here want to believe.

(On the flip side anyone who rapes someone should get beat the *#%@ down. Just thought I'd add this so yall know I don't tolerate anything like this. I just don't think news like this deserves this much attention.)

[UnwanteDreamz]

Great comment! I have to agree if we are going to be outraged at a rape game then we should be outraged at rape porn, movies that depict rape (The House on the Left, very recent mainstream movie with a violent rape scene), TV shows that depict rape (Law and Order SVU is a show that focuses on rape of children and adults and passes as entertainment), jokes about rape (FAMILY GUY how many times has quagmire eluded to such things). The truth is this game is no more wrong in its presintation of rape as entertainment then the abouve mentioned things. I know some wont agree but its just my opinion.

[Sitdown]

without hitting the disagree...because I care. I can not stomach rape...and it is one of the reasons why I will never watch A time to Kill again. In addition...based on the game/movie..there can be debate..in a movie you are watching, while, I am guessing" in a video game...you are not just an observer, but actually engaging in the game to carry out the action. Anyhoo...like I said, while rape happens everday...it is not something I care to see or engage in through gaming/simulation.

[RememberThe357]

We all went over this before. No one here likes rape. No one wants videogames to be held to a different standard. This is really bad. This isn't that bad. Your a douche bag for supporting this game. Your a douche bag for thinking that someone else is a douche bag.

Guys, we're not going to come to a consensus about this. I personally think this is F'ed up. Some of you don't. Just because this is a videogame doesn't mean you need to defend it. This is not right on any level. No one here should be defending any kind of profiteering of rape. It actually makes me sad to see you guys feeling so obligated to videogames that you would defend them even when they're wrong.

[rockleex]

I don't see you complaining whenever a rape porn or rape movie is released.

All I ask is for people to stop having double standards. What's excepted in movies should be acceptable in games. If you don't allow it in games, then don't allow it anywhere else.

I hate discrimination. Whatever happened to equality? Are we gonna have to do a Video Games Rights March now to get equal standards?

American Dream, my ass. <_<

Hypocrites.

"Oh look! Rape is in movies and porn! But Its okay, we're adults. We can handle it. What'd you say? There's rape in video games now?! That's unacceptable!! Burn them games! Burn!!!"

Equal standards. Its not a hard concept to comprehend... -_-"

[Bubble Buddy]

"Your a rapist" from the website =

Spelling Fail.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

"Fresh out of Japan comes ...." whaaat? This is old news and the game itself is like 3 years old now.

[n to the b]

yes but people thinking gaming violence is worse due to simulative interactivity should realize that in some ways they're no more interactive (yet) than a choose-your-own-adventure book. there are only limited options so it's more like seeing the different endings play out than full player choice. maybe an even better analogy would be a DVD released with alternate endings.

[rockleex]

I agree. Most people don't realize that these Hentai games have little interactivity.

Its all preset multiple paths like a point and click adventure.

Editing my 1.19 post, it should be: "What's accepted in movies"

[hermie]

Rape in movies (mainstream movies - not rape porn etc.) don't really equate with rape in games like this. Rape in movies is typically used as a way to vilify the bad guy(s) and get the audience fired up/horrified/angry. In games like this, rape is rewarded and is intended to be enjoyed, over and over again. You won't find a mainstream movie that glorifies rape.

[Sitdown]

"Once she’s on the train, the assault begins. Inside the subway car, you can use the mouse to grope your victim as you stand in a crowd of mute, translucent commuters. From here, your character corners his victim-in a station bathroom, or in a park with the help of male friends-and a series of interactive rape scenes begins."

Perhaps it is just me...but actively clicking seems to go a little further than just selecting a pathway and watching it play out or selecting an alternative ending. Besides, I do not know about you...but I find legitimate reasons for rape to be few and far in between.....where sometimes other acts of violence might be of necessity...although not necessarily to the extremes in which some are committed.

@hermie
Great point. This game appears to be making such behavior acceptable.

[rockleex]

Rape in porn GLORIFIES rape.

But in THIS rape game, if you choose to rape the girl(you have a choice), then you will get the bad ending where you die because of Karma. This game actually teaches you a lesson that rape is bad.

While in rape porn the girl somehow ALWAYS end up loving the fact that she's being raped. It somehow turns her on for some odd reason. -_-"

If a person who wants to rape girls happen to watch the rape porn, he'll be even MORE convinced that he should do it because girls love being raped! While if he plays the rape game, he'll learn about karma and it might convince him NOT to rape any girls.

Which one does more harm, the game or the porn?

[n to the b]

you wrote:
"...I find legitimate reasons for rape to be few and far in between.....where sometimes other acts of violence might be of necessity..."

sounds like you're making a similar point to Tony's in the Open Zone that violencing (shooting, exploding, dismembering, etc.) bad guys is not the same as violencing (raping) innocents.

here's part of my response to that:
"...the 'bad guys' in video games are pretty flat. their motivations are rarely fleshed out enough for them to be more than a socially-acceptable punching bag (because they're the 'bad guys')."

in other words, in the end it's the action & violence that's more important and the bad guys are only made out to be bad guys so we have someone to kill IMO. the bad guys' point of view hardly matters so it's often just mindless killing anyway.

hope that makes sense. I wrote more over there >>> if you're interested...

[NeoBasch]

Sometimes rape can be shown to elicit certain emotions. For example if you've seen the third animated movie in the Kara no Kyoukai series, a school girl is raped by a group of thugs down in the basement of some bar. The scene had plenty to do with the story, but the questions still arise. Why show it? The answer is because the creators wanted you to see it. They expect a negative response to the scene. It shows you care for the victim. It gets you involved. Those emotions are needed for the experience. Later in the movie you find out this wasn't just the first time either. They did it every week for God knows how long. The movie wouldn't be the same without these two scenes.

[RememberThe357]

You don't hear me speaking out against rape movies because I don't goto movie blogs or websites. If I did and there was a piece about a rape movie then I'd speak out against it.

But of course you jump to a conclusion and assume that I have a double standard. I do not. I think that sex scenes should be allowed in videogames just like they're allowed in movies.

Me:
"No one here should be defending any kind of profiteering of rape".

This is not pertaining to videogames in particular, but any kind of profiteering.

Your putting video games on a social platform where it doesn't belong. This is not a subject of civil rights, so don't compare the two. Your so stuck on defending video games that you don't see that your just being a fanboy and blindly defending a game I doubt you'll ever even touch. If this was a movie I'm sure you'd me saying how wrong this is, but since it's a videogame it's ok.

My friend, I am not the hypocrite, you are.

I really want you to think hard about a movie that is considered OK, in the states, that glorifies rape. Name one. Then get back to me.

I don't have a double standard like you so ignorantly assumed. The difference between me and you is that I don't have a double standard.

[Matpan]

I agree... I don´t see games pushing people to have a determinate behaviour.. If a violent game can turn you violent(and surely a violent movie, dialogue with someone or just anything that looks violent will encourage violent behaivour)... then lad, you have some issues...

there are movies where people get raped, there are comic books where people get raped... games are no exception.

[theKiller]

say this game is not worst than killing games!

period.

[stephen2005]

@Darkpower:

Well, he said in this article and the other one that the rape games are okay....so what did I get wrong???

It's not just him. It's the fact that most people on this N4G think this game is fine and not at all f**ked up. WTF? One guy replied "This rape game is fun, I hope they make more"....and he got more agrees than disagrees....

I'm sorry, but if you have nothing else better to do with her life than play and defend a game about someone raping a MOTHER and her DAUGHTERS, then I don't want to know about you. Go out, get some friends, a girlfriend maybe, there is more to life...

[DrJones]

I COMPLETELY agree! More agrees than disagrees on "raping is fun?"

Now I am ... really shocked here. This isn't normal human beings visiting these forums, but ...

Let me get this straight, i thought that you shouldn't judge gamers solely as anti social inbred freaks, but when I see such acceptance of the cruelest, most psychopathic, vile, hideous an sociopathic acts, I surely lose confidence in this crowd.

Immature, basement dwelling, teen sized brains still sucking on their mothers tits, seems to dwell in the gaming crowd and it is surely not without reason why games and gamers in general are much frowned upon by some people in the society.

You have no idea of the horror victims of rape have to endure. Both during and the long term after effects. It very often RUIN their lives forever.

Shame on you for being completely twisted, amoral and backward developed in your mind.

P.S This is only aimed at the sympathizers of rape.

[xabmol]

You are an idiot.

All I have EVER said is that if it's allowed in BOOKS and FILM it should be allowed in GAMES. Double standards are not cool.

The end.

[ogwilson]

This article is completely opinionated. It's not about the actual news that RapeLay is out there, but it contains the views of an AnalogHype writer about the types of things RapeLay is promoting in Japan, and whether or not he thinks it's gone too far. Sorry, but noone's copying anyone.

[Wizeguy21]

You can't blame the whole of japan for this!

If you don't like it don't play it!

[Scelestus]

It's such a strong word.
I think it's more like "surprise-sex-lay".

[Sibs]

It's only rape if you don't say surprise.

[DrJones]

What kinda freak are you? How about I come over and "suprise-sex-lay" in the ass right now? How would you feel about that?

No? You wouldn't like that?

[JustinSaneV2]

Speaking of living in caves...

Fresh out of Japan? People have been talking about this for a month or two now.

[jmare]

Know what's even worse?

http://www.honestgamers.com...

Here's a review from 2006

[velaxun]

game's been out since '04

[YoMeViet]

RapeLay is okay, not really that great as a "rape" simulation game. It's not even a "rape" game really, b/c later on they want you to bang em so not "forced". I've seem movies twice as worst as this with rape/murder/gore/etc and the animation is terrible! Most of the time the guy's thing pokes somewhere around the girl's belly, seems to pass through the body somehow.

After a two hours it made me realize, rape is boring, so the opposite effect?

[rbanke]

I find it strange that us in the USA find sexual things so offensive, while violence is not at all. I'll admit a 'rape simulator' game sounds extremly off, but if i step away from what i see as normal, how is a 'killing simulator' (which nearly all fps games, other shooters, etc are) any different?

If we say: "Well shooting someone in a video game isnt a simulation, its just entertainment, they are pixels on a screen." How is a rape game any different...really?

As I said, i find it a very strange thing myself, but I am able to step away from what i see as normal, and the similarities are pretty apparent. I say, all is fair in a video game, let people play whatever games they want, it IS fake...even if i dont want to play it myself.

[xabmol]

It's perfectly ok to torture, dismember, kill, and mutilate as long as you don't see any tit.

[LiquidJordan]

@xabmol

Wow...so true, so sad...yet very funny.

[Ghoul]

The best ive ever seen to back up your america goes wild on tits thing, wich is more then true is:

the Quake 4 limited edition i ordered fromt he us.
a nice artbook with the enemy types, you can see detailed concepts of a cut open female with sawn off arms where humans where stiched onto here wich hold the guns and her legs where removed only to stitch and nail her torso onto a tank, very nicely detailed and brutal.

BUT and heres the awesomeness.

The nipples where erased (censored).

LOL

[velaxun]

this has always blown my mind. I have no problem with nudity as long as it fits the story, a few nips here and there I don't care about. I've always wondered why people throw b!tch fits over nipples but seeing people's heads being removed from their shoulders is ok? It boggles the mind

[lolol123]

it only boggles your mind because youre a little kid trying to rebel against mommy and daddy. murder is highly illegal and your life is over if you ever commit such a crime, which is why people arent likely to do it when they see it. sex isnt illegal though, which is why little kids like you would see it and instantly want to try it out. hell, every normal person wants to have sex after seeing something arousing. you can see the obvious problem that arises if teenagers (who are technically in a state of psychosis) are bombarded with sexuality.

this is why american culture seems to be concerned with sex. rape would be somewhere in between murder and sex though. lots of people do it and get away with it.

[n to the b]

exactly Ghoul. what kind of crazy hypocrisy is that? it's ok to show the horrific mutilation - but not boobies wtf?!

[velaxun]

dude don't be a cunt, I'm not a kid. I'm 20 years old. I'm not trying to rebel against my parents at all, they did a damn fine job raising my sorry ass. I think you're the kid, if I see a nipple, that doesn't make me wanna go have sex. If I see someone's head get chopped off I don't wanna go dismember someone. there is no problem with a little bit of nudity, besides if there's nudity in something it is shown in the rating, and if people followed the ratings and parents paid attention to what their children were doing you wouldn't need to worry about teenagers being bombarded with sexuality because they wouldn't be seeing any.

And besides, teens "bombard" themselves enough anyway, I don't know any teenager that hasn't looked at porn. If they wanna see breasts they will, so don't go calling me out just because you're a conservative twat and you don't agree with my views.

GTFO and go back to alabama

[DrJones]

No, lolol123 is right, you shouldn't be defending such a thing as rape. Not even the slightest.
That kinda attitude is only gonna make sure that rape continues to be a problem in the future.
You really need to hate it, if you want it to go away. Oh ... That is .. if you WANT it to go away.
Because if don't want it to go away than you sir, are a fiend.

[velaxun]

Did I defend rape anywhere in my comment? No. I made a comment about how nudity is deemed worse than death and dismemberment in american culture. lern2read then try and play again. He was wrong in every fathomable way and so are you.

Adn how DARE you call me a fiend? Go back to your little hole dude, I wasn't condoning rape at all. You've missed the point and the argument was over months ago, I don't know why we're all here repeating ourselves. I do not condone rape, but I do see that it's just a GAME. Nothing from a game has ever affected me and I certainly don't wanna see people get raped, so by calling me a fiend you are be a raging presumptuous douchebag. So how about you go crawl back up your mothers uterus and stop crying about the idiots on the internet.

[Mcrmarcher]

I think killing in movies and in games is generally more accepted because most of the time the person killing is doing so in self defence, most of the time the people being killed are evil etc. you don't need to rape someone to defend yourself. Just my theory on the subject.

[Lumbo]

So you kill the prostitutes and normal people on the streets in GTA out of "self-defense"

Wow, thats a unique view there.

[DrJones]

Because N4G seems to be loaded with conscious less freaks that don't give a **** about woman's rights, but much more about their under stimulated snakes.
Rape will continue to be a problem with this bunch around.

[devilsoultaker]

at least these games are innovated

[JSA-Gamer]

This "news" is over a year old and was covered on this site and others a month ago... OLD NEWS.

[gamer2005]

Agreed.

[HDgamer]

This is very old news, Japan has been making these types of games since the 90's and some of them are with kids too.

[JOEdANGEL]

This series has been around for awhile. I wonder why it's only now coming under fire?

[andrewf91]

rape was how you said hello in japan

[MaximusPaynicus]

...you guys realize that RapeLay is three years old, right? Sure, it's a sick game that should have never seen the light of day, but the hate train for this particular game has come and gone.

[Chippydip]

gah

[BlackCountryBob]

This sort of game has been about in Japan for decades now, its not fitting with western cultures but it is Japanese culture so if it works for them.

Just remember, 15 years ago we all laughed at the crazy Japanese TV shows where people were eating animal genitals but now we make those shows and they are huge (and rubbish IMO). Media breaks taboos to keep interesting and fresh; Japan is just faster at breaking them than we are.

Rape, it aint clever and it aint entertaining but we should not be judging Japanese cultural mores with Western sensibilities.

[BlackPrince 42]

Rape is an act of aggression, not of sexual desire. The people who play these games, I mean seriously play them for more than a laugh, are probably drawn to this because of their insecurities. Better they play a rape game then commit real life rape.

And no, no one is more likely to rape if they have played the game. Though I'm sure that every guy has prayed for a particularly strong wind would blow up a hot chick's skirt at some point, that's not rape, it's wishful thinking.

[Captain Tuttle]

Anyone who plays this crap for laughs has serious issues too. This is some stupid, crazy sh1t.

Edit
bullshit bullshit bullshit...hey, you're right! Have a bulshitting bubble

[jmare]

I think that's why some people play it for laughs: Because it is so fvcking stupid. It's sort of like watching a sh1tty movie because it's so horrible and then never speaking of it again. Not that I've played it, just a guess as to why someone would play it for laughs.

It's funny how the nanny catches sh1tty but not bullshit.

[HDgamer]

according to Jack Thompson you already raped a real person by playing the game.

[Amplitude]

Well i got it right after discovering that you need to force a person into getting an abortion, and if you don't you get thrown into a train. xD Im really sorry, and i know i sound completely messed up saying this, but i simply find that hilarious and engenius.
Rape a chick, get her pregnant, force her into an abortion. Fail -> Get thrown into a train.

Thats all ill say on that matter. xD Torrents are your friend if you want it... Now, here come the disagrees. >.>

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

just as I thought, the fat Americans on this site all say OK to rape games just because it has the word 'game' in the title, do you people get offended when someone try's to shoot down or take a hit at games for causing problems, well firstly they do change and effect the mental state of a person and secondly I don't get offended if someone blames games for causing problems, people should understand that as long as you live on earth everything will effect YOU in some way, weather its a minor effect or a major effect it still happens, these rape games are the worst even more then shooting games because the sexual desire of a man is the hardest thing to control especially when you start playing games like this it will make it even harder for a man to control his desires (mostly non-married men since they would be the ones playing this type of game), this will encourage the man to do something stupid to an innocent women passing by him or what ever the situation its NOT GOING BE GOOD

@BlackPrice42...RAPE IS AN ACT Of SEXUAL DESIRES AND NOT AGGRESSION

the man wouldn't be able to rape if it was aggression because the mans penis wouldn't erect that's just simple logic

[Captain Tuttle]

??

[jmare]

Rape is about power and control. Sex is the means to exert that power and control. That's why it's caleed forcing someone against their will. Force is necessary to prove the rapist has power and control over his victim.

Even if it's date rape, the rapist wants something and exerts force to get it. That is not sexual desire. That is the rapist showing that he has the power to take what he wants regardless of the vitims desires.

[tudors]

the page kept reloading itself after i closed it, and then when I closed firefox and reopened it google just kept reloading, I have since emptied my cache but just be aware, hopefully nothing to worry about.

[Lumbo]

What is "fresh" about a 3 year old porngame/datingsim ?

[caffman]

lets see the japanese gaming charts!

[Kyur4ThePain]

WTF!

Would someone kindly explain to these monkeys how to construct a proper sentence?

[Mr Marbles]

lets not jump on Japanese like they are some kind of freaks, if you know anything about women then you should know LOTS of white women have rape fantasies as well. Being a black guy who dates white chicks alot I have seen this time and time again.

The sick thing is I think the reason alot of these chicks date me is because I am black, and they think I better fit their fantasy role of a rapist.

[yz250]

are you sure you still got some marbles left?

[Reibooi]

as xabmol has said this is only a big issue for some people because it is a game. Countless movies and books have had story lines about almost nothing but rape and no one ever complained about those.

The fact that this is a game and that you are in control is the issue that people see however no where has it been seen that playing a game like this makes you likely to run out and rape someone it's just stupid.

This isn't a game I would buy nor support but the issues being caused because of it are retarded and need to stop.

And before people start going after Japan saying this is sick and what not just shut up. This is a single game that came out of a country and in no way represents the thoughts and feelings of the population of the country.

Just think how many offensive flash games have come out of the US that were just as bad if not worse then something like Rapelay. Don't tell those don't count. I have seen and played a few and they are worse then this any day.

[The_Devil_Hunter]

THis is just unacceptable.

[Fade_Walker]

People have to remember that this is a completely different culture. It may not be acceptable in America or Europe but there is nothing we can do but not buy it (Of course I don’t see a reason why it was made in the first place.)

It’s like the arguments about violent video games, sure we play them but it doesn’t make us violent (but there is some special cases.) I’m sure it’s the same with “rape simulations.”

[Mcrmarcher]

I think killing in movies and in games is generally more accepted because 'most of the time' the person killing is doing so in self defence.

Notice that sentence, 'most of the time' yea.......

[Lumbo]

So outright murder is ok, cause in several cases people got killed in selfdefense?

What kind of sick person would justify murder with cases of selfdefense.
Splatter movies are ok to make, even though i don't like them. Rape Porn is nothing thats rare in that business, still i don't watch them, but i neither ban them. Murder simulators are ok, hey i play quite a lot of FPS, its ok. But only a shallow rape themed game with horridly boring datesim multiple choice conversations that drag on for HOURS before any action occurs is "oh nooooo, this is evil, it should be banned"

Bigotry at its finest, as long as the protagonists only maim and kill the women its ok, but boy oh boy if they rape them....

[Mikerra17]

if we have games that sever limbs and all that gnarly stuff then this stuff is just soft, if there can be movies and porno rape fantasys their can be a video game

[Timesplitter14]

As long as they don't ban every single game where people are killed, they can't ban this

[2FootYard]

The entire nation of Japan developed this?

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Will you people stop comparing rape in videogames to murder! I hate to break it to you, but in games where you murder people, they are usually the BAD GUYS - not innocent young girls crying for you to stop!

Rape is a silent epidemic, it affects more women than you know, and when games like this give the impression that rape is o.k., that's a serious problem.

Now, in this game, if you were to say, rape a locust, then that would be a different story. But you dont, so the comparison between RAPELAY and GEARS make no sense, and you should feel guilty for being so naive!

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Movies and Music don't glorify rape. Every movie I have seen that has dealt w/ rape portrays it negatively (i.e. bad guys do it). When you sit there and defend games like RAPELAY because your so worried somebody might be trying to take a cheapshot at your precious videogames, all you do supply blowhards like jack thompson w/ more fodder to sling.

[n to the b]

they're both violence. and in The Darkness, for example, sometimes my victims DO cry for me to stop.

many games feature intense brutal executions. isn't this form of torture worse than rape??

and don't give amazon too much credit for pulling it down. did they really have a choice? they're a successful American business and must censor out of fear of mass disapproval (versus letting individual consumers decide for themselves whether they wish to purchase mature content - the way it should be).

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Who are these people you fight in the darkness? Are they innocent bystanders like in Rapelay? NO! They are criminals - AKA B A D G U Y S. Big difference pal.

If you'd bother to actually stop and think about my arguement you would comprehend this. Instead you just wait for your turn to talk and go for the easy arguement - and that's part of the bigger problem.

With the lack of maturity on display in this message boards, can you blame lawmakers for their war against videogames. You guys are easy targets, you might as well have a bullseye on your heads.

P.S. You are obviously misinformed. Amazon has little control over what products its vendors post on the site. Sure, they can pull it off, but its not like they screen each and every product that goes on their site. Maybe they should, but that's another arguement.

[n to the b]

I didn't say amazon screens everything. my point still stands that this 1, once discovered, was removed and I believe amazon's policy is more motivated by following the $ than actual good intentions.

your point about 'bad guys' vs innocents is a better 1. however for me the 'bad guys' in video games are pretty flat. their motivations are rarely fleshed out enough for them to be more than a socially-acceptable punching bag (because they're the 'bad guys').

then again, what about games where you play the 'bad guy'? I've met many locust-players in GEARS online who took great joy in exploding my 'good guy' head with a longshot rifle.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I'm with Tony on this one.

If you guys think these games being out there is ok, you have deeper issues than I care to discuss.

[syanara]

u seem to know alot about rape, hmmmmm LMAO JK lol

[Phantom_T]

I'm on the Dev's side when it comes to what they put in games,and if people decide whether or not people buy it.
But this disgusts me.

[Reibooi]

This whole thing is ridiculous. In the VAST majority of the world Violence like you see on common US television is considered Taboo and you will not find stuff like that just causally on TV in other nations.

For example Japan takes violence alot more seriously because of what it is and what it can do to young children but they are a little more lax about sex as such things will be a common thing in life albeit it later on in life.

Also another thing that annoys me with the title of thing whole thing. "Japan has gone to far" SHUT UP. Do you really think that Japan as a country got together and went "Hey lets make a game about rape. NO they did not it is simple a few people and they in no way represent the views and opinions of the entire country and labeling something like this as if they do all think the same like this is simple put racist BS.

[Obama]

Also want to add that Japan actually have a very low rape crime rate in comparison to NA.

[Kevin McCallister]

Aw man, not this again. I hope all this extra exposure for a game that most of us didn't know existed a year ago, gives the devs enough money to create "Rapelay 2: The Man in the Alley". If you don't like it, don't play it. If you don't want games like these to sell well, don't keep writing these ridiculous articles hyping the title.

[n to the b]

this is unacceptable! decent, wholesome games should be about shooting peoples' heads and limbs off like Fallout and Gears of War!! that's the only kind of violence that we should be allowed to enjoy. I'm outraged!

[panasonic23]

but in gears and fallout you have a reason you fighting for your life in gears you are humanity last hope in rapelay you are a dude who just go around and stalk womens then you rape them then you rape their 12 year old daughters.

[NMC2007]

Ah yes, Japan is going to far with the rape sim games, well.... at least that is where the Japanese live out their rape fantasies, where in america has people living them out by raping people.

Japan 1
America 0

What's next, Japan has gone too far with hentai? STFU.

Also, I am not saying Japan doesn't have rape, but at least they aren't a sexually repressed country like America, and we all know what repression does to people right? There is probably more violent crimes in Japan than sexual crimes, PROBABLY I am not sure, but I am sure there are WAY WAY more sex related crimes going on in America, I wonder why.....

[DNAgent]

I'm sure Japan thinks we take our violence too far with our games so it seems more of a different perspective. I see nothing wrong with this game as it is just that, a game. Besides, there has been porn that uses the rape fantasy in certain videos/movies/scenes.

Too many soccer moms these days.

[2FootYard]

Japan makes just as many violent games as any other country.

[SinnedNogara]

Rape is terrible, I know and this shouldn't be tolerated for any release.

Considering that in Japan, you can buy underwear from vending machines, I wasn't suprised when I heard about this in February.

[xg-ei8ht]

Why the fuk would you want this type of game anywayz.

Whats the matter dweebs. Can't get layed. Go out into the sunlight and meet some of de ladies.

Either way.

RAPE, is OFFENSIVE and i'm hoping for a law, that allows the raped women to cut off the mans balls, and stick them into his mouth.

[The_Kills]

1) Horrendously written

2) Sounds like a bias newspaper crying for attention

3) STUPID

4) Makes no mention of other matters on the same level, like how violence is acceptable in games like Manhunt.

5) Talking about a Japanese game anyway, WTF? State-wide ban? My ass..

6) Contradicting itself, says it wants a statewide ban, yet tells us how it easy it is to DL off the net. Last I recall, the net it world wide, so WTF would a state-wide ban do or halt anyway?

7) LATE AS FREAKING HELL...the Amazon incident happened MONTHS ago, and articles about this were written already at that time.

[salivalalus]

I dunno i think rape is totally natural. Animals have been doing it for century's. WE as people will continue to do it, it feels good and its great exercise for both parties involved. Rape is a joke and so are your families. I would never play it of course because if i wanted to rape someone i would just go and do it just like gta i dont play that shhit i go out in the streets and stab homeless people with sharp pvc while they sleep. Can i hear an amen?

[Bumpmapping]

I just spit my coffee all over my lap top haha!

[Hitmaker]

"Fresh out of japan"?
This game is 5 years old! And sold ONLY IN japan!

Why are people making a big deal about the game now? Just something else to whine about to get hits.

Fail blog

[xino]

Rapelay news is back!

[demonwor]

To be honest I think this can get alot worse and if retard keep worring that this is going to have a big impact then your world must be really really small.

Even if they did come out with something worse (and they can) like baby rape, torture, and cannibalism ... (HOLY CRAP!) it won't really do much because the business to make one that would actually make a profit is extreemly risky and the people willing to buy is tiny.

And yes it should be banned in America because were too AFRAID of what will happen... Oh no little boys will learn how to rape torture and kill little girls OMG (sarcasm)

Japan got another thing going they decieded that people in japan are not that stupid to freak out if a game like this came out.

But it makes me wonder how Japan can be so much safer than my own home town... hmm maybe people here in America just don't have things straight...how ironic

[boss_killa]

"i thought rape was how you said hello in japan" LMAO!!!

the japanese have some messed up game tastes.

[boss_killa]

japanese peoples are awesome..

[lizard81288]

i heard girls in japan, get groped on subways all the time.

although i'm not to fond of rape, but its japan. they come up with some crazy ****. hentai monsters, girls with wankers, any type of animal rape, lolis, you name it, and they probably have some type of porn about it.

also in japan they have 5 story porn shops! thats crazy....crazy awesome
;)

[jaseo]

does this have online coop? gang rape is going too far!!!

[Lawliet]

Holyfukin Cow. This guy been living under a rock! There are even more & better eroge rapist game out there. This one is old. I'm not a perv btw, I just play games... XD

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

This is NOT ohkay, people.

Who would get pleasure out of this? I can't imagine somebody that won't/hasn't raped a girl enjoying this.

You're all sick.

[Etseix]

well ... maybe there people who just are curious, and want to see all type of se*, and, WOW im dl this by torrent ;D

ok seriusly, this is agame, let the people who like this to buy it, i dunno maybe its theyr se*ual fantasy or hell i dnt have an idea, but its a game, from how many shooters u see people on rl killing some1 else just like in the game? , thats right, not so many, people have sense of what is right and what not, :S

[xabmol]

Google "Rape Porn" and find out.

...

You back now? OK, good. Now, what have we learned?

P.S.

To tell you the truth the US PMC Blackwater offends me way more than this or any other GAME ever could. Because one is REAL and the other is a GAME.

[Etseix]

dude its a GAME, don tell me u think games are real? , right, theyr not.

p.d. yea i agree with u xabmol, google it, and ull find more links related
.. and iif u dont like rape... go search some MI*F! videos! ;D
lol jk

[Obama]

I know a lot of people who would be turned on by rape porn. Are they going to act it out after watching real life people raping another individual? No. Is rape porn considered taboo among us gamers? I don't think so.

What's the difference?

[FxckOSX]

Jpanese says,

this is a Videogame. not Real.
before claiming about other country,
should care oneself like GUN and DRUG.
violence hollywood movie, violence videogame(FPS) too!

I think japanese are just into the transitional stage.
one side, they think problematic to sexy itself,
other side, they claims "BS. sexy is a not evil, much less game"

clearly apart them about sexy and violence game,
like as DeadSpace is not allowed to sell in the Japan.

[news4noobs]

just like the ps3. anyone suprised?

[NMC2007]

This was written for hits, in 8 months or so it will pop up again and generate the same attention.

Also, why are Americans always trying to chastise everything? It's like they try to poke their noses in everyone else's business, it's what Japan likes, kinda like Americans love graphic violence and reality shows, do you see Japan saying anything about us? Of course not, they are too busy doing their own thing.

Only America wants to nose poke and police the world and shove their views down everyone else's throat with a forceful boot, America needs to stfu and worry about itself right now, stop trying to be the boss of the planet.

America will be the new Iraq by the year 2015.

[Too_Hyped]

When American and british soldiers raped and killed Iraqis, was it ok ? I'm confused.

At least here it's a video game.

[xabmol]

The news just went through so many media filters that by the time we got it, it was a picture of a kitten sitting on a Humvee.

[Morgue]

Who cares about topics like this because I don't. If you can't differentiate fantasy from reality then you shouldn't be playing games. Besides women are raped all the time in the U.S. but no one seems to care but all of the sudden a game comes out and it's red flag central?

[xabmol]

Scapegoat?

[klassikaren]

Those sick Japanese folks...

[Magic_The_Celt]

Just as ghost-mutation

i was about to say, Wtf? "japan" has gone too far? who do i see about getting a brick to throw at the moron who wrote this..

[Chippydip]

Can you retards even COMPARE rape games to movies in which there are isolated RAPE SCENES? There are no RAPE MOVIES (Legally produced anyway). And hypothetically, if you were inclined to watch a RAPE MOVIE, you would merely be a spectator (not that it makes it any less f'ed up, you sick fcuk) and not a RAPIST SIMULATOR. Yes, murder is a crime and it's done all the time in videogames. But you don't rape to accomplish anything in life. Ever. And if you ever think that's okay you're an immature loser. Point blank.

Defend this trash more, you over-opinionated cretin.

[Lumbo]

you live under a rock, apparently, (fake) rape porn is nothing rare.

And i find it rather disturbing that you claim you murder to accomplish something in life, please seek immediate counseling.

[yippie1234y]

im speechless honestly never thought i would see a game like this.. the title of the article is a little messed up also.. japan didnt go to far, some idiot who lives in japan went to far

[Charles]

Just shut up and enjoy the game people

[G4drake]

too far japan too far, and prayer to lift skirts

[duskywolf50]

It can cause increase of sex offender. I don't want this launch cause same idea as FPS some sick people think that same as real life thing so go out shoot people for fun. I believe some people feel that video game can give some influence on people.

[HDgamer]

You don't have any proof or studies to back that up also sex offenders aren't allowed to have computers so I pretty much shot down your theory.

[xg-ei8ht]

salivalalus

Natural, wtf are you on about.

I hope someday some bloke rapes you in the arse, lets see how natural it is then, unless you get that already.

[lizard81288]

some people seem to be very angry with this, why? its just a video game. i'm sure theres worse porn games out there, it would be the same effect if people said, "well i killed him because grand theft auto told me too". i doubt it will make more rapists out there. by that logic, we should be snapping koopa's necks, stealing peoples cars, doing drugs, and ect,ect.... its just a game, don't like it, then don't play it.

if you want a porn game, look at the sexy beach series, i think all of them have been moded, so theres english patches and what not.

i don't like rape[not even in porn], but its just a game. in japan they have a big market for porn games, since everybody lives so close together, they can't really have sex[so i've been told]; it would be like having sex in an apartment, thin walls and stuff. just like how nintendogs was big. not a lot of open space in japan, and they live in citys and apartments that might not allow dogs.so nintendogs sold like hot cakes. although i'm sure the porn market there isn't that huge, but there still is a market for it.

edit---
people are also overeating.its kind of funny. i wanted to see what the reviews were, and they seem to be meh, at best, but there are tons of videos about this game and why its bad, and they funny thing is there interviewing the wrong people. in the video i found their talking to parents with little kids(like 5-10). the parents say there not going to buy this game, and people [mainly fox news, and people with high power,like govs and what not]are urging others not to buy it,BUT this a japan only game! i doubt you'll just walk into a gamestop, and say "hey do you have RapeLay?" "gamestop employee:why, yes we do"
so you'll have to import it, and all the reviews say sexy beach is better, and lighter, but you can check this out if you want too.

[Mcrmarcher]

'So outright murder is ok, cause in several cases people got killed in selfdefense?'

'What kind of sick person would justify murder with cases of selfdefense'

I never said murder was ok...I just said that killing is generally more excepted because its in movies and games. Also are you saying If someone was trying to kill you, you would just sit there and let them? you wouldn't try to save yourself by killing the other person? you wouldn't do it because you think selfdefence doesn't justify murder?