Rumor Killers: PS3 Price Drop, Bioshock 2 Timed Exclusive

Rumor Killers examines the possibility of Bioshock becoming a timed exclusive on the PS3, as well as new PS3 price drop rumors, and the discovery of one forum poster that Too Human 2 may already be in development.

[cain141]

Why would Bioshock 2 be a PS3 timed exclusive? Would make more sense if it was 360 again... (or neither)

[Peter Griffin]

y would that make more sense if any at all?

[cain141]

@1.1

Seeing as the first one was timed exclusive for Xbox. Plus they could have started work on it much sooner (not sure if they did or not) then they could on the PS3 one, seeing as that just came out last fall right?

[Chicken Chaser]

because some people here believe every single BS hiphopgamer says

[Peter Griffin]

this is HH gamer?

yeesh

[acedoh]

I don't remember any comment like that. SONY actually stated last year they were going to re-evaluate their strategy as far as exclusives. SONY has always paid for certain aspects. Whether it's marketing or development. They may not put up a large sum of money but they have given incentives to developers. I wouldn't be surprised if SONY made a move to get some timed exclusivity for Bioshock 2. It really doesn't matter if the original sold more on the 360. Of course it would. It came out first and there was no indication it would come to the PS3. The publicity and game awards also helped sell it.

[N4360G]

You never know.Take Two probably wants to show PS3 gamers some love so that they will love BioShock 2 and buy it for their PS3's.I'll be purchasing BioShock 2 for my PS3 next year,the first one was great.

[ry-guy]

Rumor Killers?

This should be renamed the "Straighten Out HipHopGamer's Mess".

That's all they're doing.

[AriesFury]

I do agree. Then they can release on the PS3 again with exclusive DLC that the 360 and PC never could get.

[proArchy]

Not trying to stir the pot or make any assumption either way, but these guys presented just as much evidence as HHgamer did - none. The only difference is they claim their opinion is straight up fact while HHgamer simply presented a rumor and his opinion.
The truth is, anything could happen. No one here is in any kind of position to speak for Take Two, and if they were they wouldn't be able to talk about it anyway. The reason for the first's exclusivity is a mystery to me. It could have been a comparably small PS3 install base, or lack of experience programming for PS3( remember it was in the thick of the whole "WTF this thing is hard to code!" pandemic), or ...money-hats. Both the install base and experience problems have been removed, so that leaves money or some other random reason. We'll just have to wait for an announcement( let it be in the form of a trailer and I'll shine Take Two's boots for a week!) and see. I personally don't see any reason for it NOT to be simultaneous.

[N4Flamers]

I hate to crush anyones dreams on here but these guys said the same thing HH gamer said, just more speculation and no facts. Let the rumors continue. I personaly think that they will bring it out multiplat, just because I dont think they want to ignore the 360 audience that supported this game, and because I downloaded the trailer off xbox live. With the economy the way it is Im sure take two would know that bringing a game out on a different system a year later usually hurts your sales. Umm dont quote me on that last sentence.

[GarandShooter]

It's entirely possible it could be a PS3 timed exclusive. How would that hurt overall sales? Would 360 owners be so upset, they boycott the franchise? That's just as ridiculous as PS3 owners upset with FFXIII going to the 360. People buy games for their system(s) of choice. It may shift sales, but likely an insignificant amount. If Bioshock had been released on both consoles simultaneously, it's possible some dual console owners who bought the 360 version may have opted for the PS3 version, it's possible the reverse could be said this time around.

As far as Sony making a deal, it could be centered around multiple games with Bioshock 2 being one, or any number of incentives, financial and otherwise. It could be Take Two has taken a step back to look at the larger overall picture, and they feel a deal with Sony is overall more favorable at this juncture.

Or it could all be BS, it's only a rumor after all, but if the author is going to reason this out, why not do so thoroughly.

[prowiew]

I don't know. I dont think Bioshock is worth that much for sony paying for exclusivity. It has more value for microsoft cause they need some exclusives. Also Take 2 is not doing that well in their financials, so if Take2 accept an offer from one of them it have to be big money. As far as the too human 2. Really? Who wants a sequel to that game. Im sorry if there is any too human fan, but I think this was the game i hated the most in 2008. Heck, maybe even 2006 and 2007.

[SirLarr]

I wouldn't mind a Too Human 2 soon.

[cain141]

I just hope they do a good job and don't rush a sequel.

[Viewtiful]

Surely you realize the hilarity of fearing that Silicon Knights will rush ANYTHING. (It's taken them the better part of fifteen years to put out two original games.)

[cain141]

@2.2

Touché

[dannyhinote_13]

Me either. I really liked Too Human, and would really like a sequel.

[Mc187]

Too human in 2019.

[Aaron Greenterd]

Confirmed

[predator]

Bioshock will be multi

[Gun_Senshi]

It was on PC from Day 1

[predator]

yet again... yes it was exclusive to Microsoft...be it 360 be it games for windows...so yes it was exclusive

is god of war no longer exclusive as its on PSP and PS2 and PS3 now?

[Wile]

Give up predator, individuals like Gun here hold much weight on the 'console/PC is not exclusive' thing. Even if it's Microsoft Studios releasing it on PC/360. I'm sure CViper will be in here shortly to expound his thoughts on the matter.

[Gun_Senshi]

Its still giving less reason to anyone who has a decent PC to buy X360.

I have a gaming PC so the so called "exclusives" on X360 which are on PC I play them and I do not count them as Exclusives.

I can play Window games on Linux too.

[Rhoic]

Considering the majority of people in the world do NOT own a decent PC.. I'm sure they will be picking up a 360. Not to mention it's the only thing that can play HD gaming for $200.

[Wile]

That may be the way you see it Gun, but let us be honest here. The gaming community as a whole, DEEP DOWN, doesn't really care when something goes from a console to the PC and by and large, don't consider it a real loss of exclusivity. The real stinging and attention grabbing events, in this ridiculous console war, have always been console to console. Some good examples (rumored or confirmed) may be Devil May Cry, Bioshock, Final Fantasy, Assassin's Creed, Virtual Fighter, Fatal Inertia, MGS4, and Grand Theft Auto. Some of those I would categorize as industry meaningful news that should grab attention. You can try making the PC/360 thing bigger than it really is. But the gaming community really doesn't care, otherwise you would see alot more hype surrounding Xbox to PC events. Halo, Halo 2, L4D and Gears are perfect examples. It seems to me, the only ones who really care, are those looking to rub it in the 'other' console fans faces.

If Halo, Fable, MGS4, Gears or GOW goes to the competing CONSOLE then we'll talk. Otherwise Gun, nice try.

[FF7numba1]

lol i signed in just to let predator know how dumb he is.
Bioshock is 1 game. God of war is 4 different games. Ps2: god of war 1 &2,Psp: chains of Olympus, and ps3: god of war 3. damn your friggin slow. Smack yourself for that dumb ass comment.

PLus the rest of you idiots don't come with the 400 pc gaming comment. 9600 gt costs 70 to 120 usd. Cost me only 75 usd because I already own dell E521. I played bioshock on 8600 gt superclock so I know 9600 gt can get 45 frames +. Some of you don't know nothing about pc gaming.

[Wile]

wow, congrats FF7. You sure showed them.

[FrankenLife]

Well I can play Windows games on my Mac. I don't, but if I wanted to I could.

Is this sort of semantics argument really important? Most people don't really care. Just play the games you can (Well not all. People are playing Iron Man against all recommendations)

Maybe i am just wearing a smile and not arguing because I just got a Wii w/ Super Mario Galaxy and Umbrella Chronicles, End War, Little Big Planet, and a replacement copy of FFVII. I have so much greatness I don't know what to do.

[onomix]

iSuppli, the company that 'broke down' the PS3 at launch, estimated the cost of making a PS3 was over $840 a pop. That story has changed though. Since removing PS2-compatibilty(NOOOO!) and changing to the 65nm chips, it now takes Sony 53% less to produce the PS3 than it did at launch. So the PS3 now cost around $440 to make..and with Sony selling it for $400, that means even after two years in production, the PS3is still losing money. Ugh.

The PS3 also takes less parts to make! The original PS3 took a whopping 4,048 parts to make, while the latest pieces only take 2,820. Sony has combined certain chips and the Cell chip was original cost $89 to make now only cost $46 to make. Yay!

What does all of this mean exactly? With Sony STILL losing money on the PS3, I might have to re-work my predictions again. Why would Sony drop the price of the PS3 in Feb. or March when they will STILL be losing money?? Why would they drop the price to $300 and continue to lose money?? Perhaps all of the solid software they will be releasing in 2009 will more than makeup the difference. We shall see..

[acedoh]

I doubt Microsoft is profitable on the 360... Especially after a big price drop. I could be wrong. Although Microsoft saw themselves falling behind by years end so they took a major step reducing price and even bundling two games. Ingenious move as it has made the 360 hot once again. SONY has been slow to respond which is good for their company but not great for the gaming public. I don't really see a price drop until Summer at the earliest. Despite Killzone 2 coming in February it is not a busy time for console sales.

[Rhoic]

MS IS making a profit on the 360.. I believe it started early this year. They have the full ability to lower the price of the 360 without losing much or possibly not lose anything at all.. especially with the new Valhalla motherboard in development.

[Nogames08_09_360RROD]

-Too Flop Human 2 - Release date 2018

-Bioshock 2 a Sh1tbox 3-Fix-Me timed exclusive so the developers can use the Xfag fuktard lemming bots as guinea pigs, so when the PS3 superior version comes along it will have less bugs and exclusive DLC again only on Playstation 3.

-PS3 price cut confirmed to kill the Sh1tbox 3-Fix-Me in 2009

[jack who]

funny sony fan went nuts when hiphopgamer said ps3 would get the time exclusive

[Nogames08_09_360RROD]

What the fuk are you talking about Jack the F@g? You don't make any sense. Correct your gibberish, so people 'conprenday' more.

I was the only PS3 Fanboy who said it should be a Sh1tbox 3-Fix-Me timed Exclusive so you Bots can be the guinea pigs, and we get the exclusive DLC again. Hence i disagreed with HipHop Gamer. Don't believe me read my past troll comments.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

You are such a loser, just like the PS3.

Funny, how the "beta" test of Bioshock looks, plays and sold better on the Xbox Three Sh!tty than on the Piece of Sh!t 3.

Another PS3 price drop when the system is still losing money would be as desperate as their last price cut in the first year.

[Nogames08_09_360RROD]

says the f@g, that trolls on his Giant Enemy Lobster account.

@below i type this comment because you first posted "You are such a loser, just like the PS3. " then you edited in the rest of your rant.

What's the point in arguing with you? Bioshock has less bugs and has exclusive dlc get over it.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

So you can't argue with the information I presented and you are going to just call me names. I may be a 360 fanboy but you are an extremist child and if you think the 360 has no games in 08 or 09 (I wonder wtf I've been playing) you are also a liar.

Do you want to debate the 3 completely stupid statements you made or do you just wanna be a little b!tch?

How funny, I get 6 disagrees and you get 6 agrees. You pulled out all your dupe accounts to agree and disagree eh? How freaking pityful and don't lie and tell me those aren't all from you. You're just another PS3 cheat!

EDIT: The comment was always like that. What bug fixes? What major bugs? Your exclusive content was basically a challenge room and you had to wait almost a year to get that. They had to patch the game so the graphics were even on par after it released. You want to say 360 owners beta tested that? Seriously?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You mean like Bioshock 10fps/jaggie PS3 version?

[PoSTedUP]

the ps3 isnt losing sony money anymore. the 40GB (now the 80GB) is breaking even and the one they are charging for 500$ is making 100$ on every one sold... it costs 400$ to produce a ps3. honest mistake though : )

[jack who]

did they stop selling the 40gb?

[PoSTedUP]

the 40GB is the 80GB now... for the same amount of money... with cheaper parts....

[karlostomy]

Now you see, this is where you get confused.

The ps3 hardware is still sold at a $50 loss right now and for the foreseeable future.
http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

Quote: "The PS3 now costs $448.73 to build while selling for $399."

Please pay attention in class.

[PoSTedUP]

SONY: "the ps3 costs 400$ to produce"

http://gizmodo.com/344141/p...

[karlostomy]

Please, if you want to quote sony, at least quote them accurately

The article you supplied actually quotes sony as saying:
"the 40gb ps3 costs *about* $400 to produce"

Now take the price above.
add 80 gb HDD.
add the *about* margin of error.

result?

$448 cost as per http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

A $50 confirmed loss per console.
Sorry to break it to you.

[SONYSLAVE]

yo yo dis is da hiphopgamma YO! I AIN'T NEVER WRONG ON MY INFO!

BIOSHOCK 2 IS A TIMED EXCLUSIVE! ya feel me? for the one and only psTRIZZLE!!!!!!!!

[bobdog626]

Sony need to Drop that Price real soon . I would make a cheaper PS3 by taking Wifi out,remove all ports ,remove cell put in Phenom Chip .Sell it for 299.99

[Fishy Fingers]

Serious comment?

[memots]

@ fishy finger : No

I don't think he was serious but he sure made me laugh.

[velaxun]

Seriously doubt it, but it was clever none the less

[Peter Griffin]

N4G needs to start puttin out ads for comedians

[LinuxGuru]

lololololololololololololololo lolololol

[Jazz4108]

might as well take out BlueRay while your at it and call it a xbox360

[bobdog626]

Sony needs to get there Act together Real soon or they will lose this race, BluRay Player,s are getting cheaper everyday so there going to lose that atvantage soon.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The rumors were on the hiphop gamers show... nuff said.

[cereal_killa]

Your right!!! they were just rumors and if you take rumors for truth until proven correct then there's something wrong.. PS3/360 fanboys rush to conclusion on rumors all the time and even when proven wrong they will still believe the rumor.

[DJ]

The same day. They make most of their profit off of PS3 anyway, so it makes no sense for them to screw over that platform.

[predator]

look at actual sales figures and Bioshock on PS3 sold 0.25. Bioshock on 360 sold 2.5 million... GTA IV sold more on 360 than PS3

Only difference is the exchange rate here in Europe to the US...as PS3 games sell in Europe the better the income will be. So there is no reason what so ever now putting it on PS3 first as the 360 is now beating it in Europe and US

[Magic_The_Celt]

Haha Too Human... jesus what a terrible game, it can sit and argue with haze in the flop bin LMAO

[Allowen]

I don't know what is the trobble if Ps3 gets time exclusive on Bioshock 2 and if you ask me the next future super heavy FPS games should be made first into the best vg( PS3) atm and then be ported to Xbox360.
It makes no sense to me if HEAVY games such RAGE and Doom4 on the xbox360 first considering that if gets ported to the PS3 it will have not even close to the potential of graphics it could have if it is made to the PS3/PC 1st.

As a PS3 owner what I dont like about Microsoft 's Xbox360 nowadays is that when they get an exclusivity that means to me that when the game is finnally launched for the ps3 IT WILL have to have the same graphics level and now quite much better(some times) instead :(

No ofense to Xbox360 owners but that vg is starting to get OLD and it is not fair it hold the advancement of games because that machine got to have priority since MS pays a lot cash......what should start to happen in 2009 is that PS3 starts to get the priority and then will be not just the Wii but also the xbox360 that will also start reciving a lower quality of games (CoD5 on Ps3 rules / CoD5 on Wii= fun but poor graphics)

[Allowen]

LOL< imagine if the lead plataform was PS2 still ) So every multi plat game would have to have the "same graphics" and it would be uncool to see PS3/xbox360 with games with PS2 lv of quality on graphics.
My point is, devs started to understand how to make even uberer graphics on the PS3 and so it should be the next lead plataform for games such Doom4.
I remember ID saying that Doom4 would be hell too damn heavy to make it in a VG and thet said "even fopr the PS3" .

So just imagine IF they make that game for VGs and use the xbocx360 as lead plataform.... man it will have "bad graphics"compare to the PC ) and the PS3 version would have to have the same poor thing. But on the other hand if the lead plataform was the PS3 the game would look quite cooler I am sure.

[yojoe26]

if Bioshock is coming out on the PS3 first (which I don't that is true) is that maybe Take Two wants to try leading on PS3 to get more of the hardware under their belt and then port over to 360 since it is easier to code for apparently. That would give them a MUCH greater understanding of the hardware than porting from pc and 360 again. Maybe they just want to get to know the hardware on a deep level so that they are prepared for the next eight years or however long the PS3 has of development. They obviously know how to develop for the 360 so maybe they are just wanting to step up to the challenge....just my two cents.

edit: sorry Allowen I just noticed after I wrote this dang essay that you said the same thing right before me. So here's bubbles for you and to everyone else just ignore my post. It is redundant. :(

[DragonWarrior46534]

Im pretty sure that Take 2 doesn't know what is gonna happen. Unless you idiots work at Take 2 then I suggest you stop running your mouths. Freakin idiot fanboy pr!cks.

[Pleth]

I cannot believe all the rants. Seriously, it's not hard to scrape up a couple hundred bucks if you really want something. I own a 360 AND a PS3. both rule. 360 online is tops and PS3's graphics, MGS4, Blue ray, etc are top of their game. Own each console! DUH!

[sonyjunky279]

i dont know if any of these are true and frankly i dont really care, but really all this site is doing is guessing...

[locos85]

The only thing they do is bring out their own theory. They have no facts or evidence that they are actually killing a rumor. Just more speculation.

[MiztaToungueTwista]

looks like hiphop gamer was right after all