EA PS3 revenue skyrockets

What a difference a year makes. This time last year, sales of PS3 games accounted for only $13 million of EA's total net revenue. But this time this year? PS3 games account for $139 million in sales. Which is a 969% increase

[Overr8ed]

looks like everyone is happy. but if coure one person isnt happy. Gabe McDonalds, if this keeps up then we well most likey see Left 4 dead in Ps3.

[sonarus]

Thumbs up EA on the rockband timed exclusive for the 360

[yesah]

not me, i want to know what bob dole thinks.

[Playstation Man]

Good thing L4D is Box exclusive and RB2 is timed! Smart business!!!! Also, I think this basically confirms Mass Effect trilogy multiplat!

[alster23]

could this mean mass effect on ps3?

[Critical_Hit]

LOL, so true. Hell did EA even release Rock Band 1 PS3 in Europe yet? If they didn't another two thumbs up considering Rock Band 2 is just over the horizon.

[nbsmatambo]

What the hell? That's unpossible!

969% increase YOY is insane

[sunnygrg]

Awesome news all around.

[marinelife9]

The thanks goes to all of you. Because I didn't send a single dime EA's way. Although I will pickup the next Fight Night when it comes out.

[AznSniper]

That's unpossible. I think Europe has a lot of contribution to this.

[yesah]

hahahahaha, bubbles.

[cahill]

so does this tell you anything about Vgchartz numbers?
cuz the only way for EA to make that much money is to sell Sws in europe and in europe ps3 might be outselling x360 by GOD KNOWS HOW much?

EA show some love to PS3 now

[streetking93]

@ azn lo you said umpossible its impossible ha ha

[m-s-8-2]

Derr, he was obviously quoting Ralph Wiggum.

[TheHater]

EA do you see what happen when you release Quality titles on the PS3? You games will sell on the system.

[ElementX]

I'm a 360 fan but I'm not in denial. I know PS3 will do well for Sony and developers. If only i had the cash right now to buy one. :(

[Real gamer 4 life]

i know how you feel dude, i have been there before. Then i got a job and that change everything. I am sure there will be a opportunity for you in the future, to get one.

[poopsack]

All in due time.

[ElementX]

Excuse me? A job? I'm a Security Officer and a college student. I'll be graduating next year in computer networking and support. I'm making over $14/hr but I have some bills to pay off.

[himdeel]

...you still have a 360. That's still pretty cool! Just takes a bit of time to get the extra money saved up nowadays can be tough.

Think of all the broke people who only have the original Gameboys and still have to play their Sega Mastersystems they got at a garage sales. Now don't you feel better?! :)

[Meus Renaissance]

It's due down to FIFA and Burnout being massive in Europe. No other explanation unless thats some typo

[yesah]

i dont think its a typo...

[cahill]

Battlefield sold more on ps3 too based on european sales
the only typo is Vgchartz's highly exaggerated x360 sales in europe

[name]

It's pretty impossible to boycott ALL ea games and still satisfy your gaming tastes. I used to say I only boycotted EA developed games and not published, but it looks like I'm buying madden this year as well. -_-

[themyk]

i could have posted that same comment.

[Kassanova07]

Maybe they can finally hire good PS3 programmers :)

[Meus Renaissance]

What is the source of this by the way

[cahill]

http://investor.ea.com/phoe...

imagine ps3 sales in europe now

[Talvish]

You want to read this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

360 is leading all platforms still.

[cahill]

no thats a spin off

thats non-GAAP accounted sales. dont go that forum again. thats as bad as xboxkings

Under GAAP rules ps3 made almost 2x as much revenues for EA

@TALVISH

GAAP is not for accountants
GAAP is a basic rule that determines how earnings are caluclated based on a UNIVERSALLY/AMERICAN based principles

Under non-gaap terms EA lost 135m dollars

that neotard post doesnt make any sense cuz no one is educated in that forum

DONT ARGUE with ME ON THAT

It is PS3 which came out on top in terms of revenues for EA . no way to spin

and dont bring up that NEOTARD forum in here

[Talvish]

Hey cahill,

GAAP is for accountants due to rules that mere mortals like us aren't meant to understand (I own a business and I let the accountants deal with this all the time). When you recognize revenue plays a big role in how your quarters look .

If you want to understand what really sold you have to look deeper at the numbers. The Neogaf post makes a ton of sense. When Sony and Microsoft reconcile EA's portion of the revenue makes a big difference. They are likely to have different structures and that will have a direct impact on how they show up on EA's books.

To give you another example, for some of our clients we get paid within 30 days which regardless of how you do your books, it will generally stay within the quarter. But we have clients that like to do this 90 days out. That means, again depending on how you run your books, it can mean the revenue can appear in the books a full quarter or so beyond when we billed.

Update to cahill: Not sure why you are getting so upset. I'm familiar with GAAP and what it means. I'm also familiar enough to know how it generally works in real business. I'm not saying you don't...but if you want to really understand when consumers spent the dough, you need to understand how Sony/MS report/pay EA.

[Ju]

But it also shows, that EA makes a sh!t load more money with micro transaction on the PS3 then with Live on the 360.

[Talvish]

Not necessarily. If the revenues for this quarter are recognizing money consumers spend in previous quarters you need to go back to those previous quarters and compare how MS/Sony are working with EA.

[Kleptic]

according to that Neogaf posting...EA nearly doubled the PS3 based revenue due to microtransactions?...and they are projected for the quarter?...that sounds even more ridiculous than this entire article...

that posting is very poorly written...

It also mentions that only the DS lacks microtransactions...but why not the PS2?...I am assuming microtransactions refer to online content that is paid for through the various outlets available to each console...but the PS2, like the DS, has no such service available (at least not anymore)...

[Dareaver1]

EA must be up to something....

Another poster from eurogamer posted the same findings and it's not from neogaf, for those that seem to think they are biased....

here's what he posted and it all makes sense

These figures are wrong, read the financials. PS3 did $68m not $139m.

Bizzarely EA have decided because they don't know enough about PS3 DLC royalties they have decided to estimate what to expect and have taken all expected ESTIMATED royalties for games released in the past and in the present quarter in one hit now! (so the bulk is probably Rockband)

Its a huge fudge to make their loss for the quarter not look so bad, they did not do this for 360 as MS can give them reliable data so the revenue for DLC for MS comes in as when it is paid by gamers.

At the bottom of the quarters accounts it shows the 360 on $81m and the PS3 on $68m so they basically improved their figures by $61m by taking future revenue and only on PS3!!

http://investor.ea.com/phoe...
Edited 1 times. Most recently by GamerG at 12:54 on 30/07/2008

and that's form EA's page, such bull get's posted on here sometimes. didn't even research the article, you can tell they just liked the title....

[juuken]

Wow.

[morganfell]

Whoops, too late at night. Meant to say Activision. The point I have been making is these other publishers are going to look at the EA numbers and follow suit in backing the PS3. They are going to go where the money is and smaller yet prominent businesses that used to refuse such ventures for one reason or another - the way Blizzard did in the past - will no longer stand on the console side of the street and wave at the money floats.

[juuken]

You're right, as usual.

[read disc error]

EA is just bad. There is no way around it.

[Meresin]

I'll keep your opinion in mind when I'm enjoying the hell out of Dead Space and Mirror's Edge. :P

[morganfell]

For someone with a user name that describes the DVD in every issue of OXM you sure are bitter. Here. Does this look familiar?

http://www.badghill.pair.co...

Moral: It is easy to disparage what we cannot have.

[read disc error]

mirrors edge and dead space are coming out for the 360 to name a few. I don't know what you guys are getting at about sour grapes and all. EA is the king of multiplatforms and always will be.

I'm just not a fan of EA and I know I'm not alone.

[morganfell]

Meresin, we'll have more than that on the PS3. EA controls Bioware now...do the math. I am sure EA has. MS can forget about anything else from Bioware being a 360 exclusive. Start with Mass Effect.

On the other hand, since the PS3 supports KB/M in game if anyone is going to get a Blizzard game (owned by EA) it will be the PS3. Blizzard stated it was a stipulation they wanted equal controls and cross platform. The PS3 is the only console that can do that so hello Starcraft II.

[Diugu]

EA does not own blizzard.

But it wouls sure rock to get some of their games on the ps3. ;D

Also, now that you said it, I wish more games would allow the use of mouse and KB on the PS3. ):

[morganfell]

This comment was meant for here:

Whoops, too late at night. Meant to say Activision. The point I have been making is these other publishers are going to look at the EA numbers and follow suit in backing the PS3. They are going to go where the money is and smaller yet prominent businesses that used to refuse such ventures for one reason or another - the way Blizzard did in the past - will no longer stand on the console side of the street and wave at the money floats.

[Roukuko]

all the bots up in roar omg bro typo wtf how this happen wtf broski's

lol silly bots when will you learn ps3 is better

[Veryangryxbot]

makes up more than twice the income for the 360.
PSP not included.

And people say PS3 dont sell games lmao. Tide is changing bots. A company like EA cannot ignore the PS3 any longer. In fact, Peter Moore is going to focus on the PS3 much more I think. In fact, PS3 just became more important than the 360 for EA.

Mass effect PS3.

[sunnygrg]

And does this mean we will get some timed exclusive games on the PS3. On second thought, naaah, I wouldnt bet on it.

[Kleptic]

hahahaha

yeah read through the comments...some are great...some 360 retards are simply saying 'no, this isn't true'

this will turn into a really big deal...guaranteed...

[theKiller]

some jack@sses from MS PR saying ps3 will never do better in software sales than 360!!! what a lies, just like always!!

kotaku said they didnt know why this much huge sales for ps3, and i have he answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
its because the 360 is hacked and ps3 is not!!!!! many people here in europe r buying the 360 only because its a DVD games and its hacked(modded) so every person who buys one its for the cracked games from torrents so MS does get any money except from the initial hardware sales(360) but they get only very few from software!!!

devs will and are seeing that there is much more money made in ps3 and much more power and advantages than 360!!

the bots should prepare for excuses from now when most of EA games and other third party games looks better on ps3 and have extra's

EDIT

i will bookmark this page for a reminder when ever a bot open his mouth about software sales

[Aquanox]

I'm still having trouble finding the logic in this. There's no single EA Game that has sold better on PS3 than on Xbox 360 for what I can recall (FIFA maybe? but it sold great on Xbox 360 as well) Even the Kotaku guys are confused.

On the other hand, keep in mind this should be for the period between April-June 2008. See how the Xbox 360 reached 218-196 million sales in the following months due to big American releases.

I'd love to see the breakdown of these numbers.

[Playstation Man]

They'll have one more sale for the PS3 from your's truly when I pick up Madden 09 on the 12th!

[Playstation Man]

What, some random N4G member is going to literally come to my home town and physically STOP me from fulfilling my proclamation of purchasing Madden 09 when it comes out?

Incredible! Maybe they'll do it psychopathically! Or maybe they'll stop all shipments from getting here somehow! I applaud such greatness for you found a way to disagree with a statement aimed at one's self! Simply beyond me the intelligence and message board ethics of such marvelous people!

[Meus Renaissance]

This is definitely legit. Here's their numbers for fiscal year 2008. As you can see, they match up directly with the numbers from page 12. We have just started EA's fiscal year of 2009, and the numbers are up tremendously from last year's Q1.

http://media.corporate-ir.n...

[man0fsteel]

great googly moogly

[DiabloRising]

So tell me again why PS3 owners need to wait for Rock Band 2? EA just shot themselves in the foot, since most of those sales will now go to the PS3 edition of GH4.

Way to go dumbazzes.

[themyk]

i think the times exclusive is funny as hell. again ms thinks that buying something like that is going to change anyones mind.

signs of desperation if you ask me.

[eagle21]

The title is "PS3 is EA's Single Biggest Breadwinner", why did they change the title?

This is getting so interesting these days.... LMAO :)

[PoSTedUP]

this is getting interesting isnt it.

wonder what this will lead to...

[morganfell]

It will lead to more cases of denial. People like themart will be found on ladders with a rope trying to pass it off as hanging a planter to support their gardening activities, Jason360 buying up all the razor blades at the local Walgreens, unmitigated shame and a lot of sore necks from people hanging their heads.

And oh, the loss of the few remaining 360 exclusives from EA and other publishers that understand the PS3 makes more money than the 360.

[juuken]

They're already in denial. They're having a field day in that LBP article there slamming disagree buttons and claiming that LBP will bomb hard.

It's so, so, so sad.

[morganfell]

They are claiming it will bomb hard as it is the only tactic left. Too bad it is already a media darling and far too many have sampled it's remarkable innovation. Now it just makes them look like sad asses for attacking it.

MGS4 is the best game I have ever played. That was too big for them to do anything about. They tried with the NDA and load time bit. There is a good article by Rob Smith in the new PTOM that arrived yesterday in the mail where he talks about that entire matter.

Last year they successfully buried the second best game I have ever played and the best shooter I have seen - Uncharted. Uncharted is a game that doesn't require the addition of trophies to make me play it again and again and again. Want to see how AI should be done? Play Uncharted. Same thing with a game that shames the ridiculous camera in Ninja Gaiden - Heavenly Sword. Want to see a thousand AI in a massive battle? Want a true cinematic gaming experience?

The jackassery of the bots was some of the toughest and most diversive negative campaigning I have ever seen. All to damn a game. They can say what they want but they are just a bunch of bitter and pathetic people whose influence is not only a farce but is now becoming ineffective. They couldn't build their console on what it was so they had to resort to attacking the other guy. Well you went and pissed in the wrong yard and the big dog on the block just came off the porch and his tag says Sony.

There is a big difference between Playstation fans and 360 fans. Playstation owners are gamers first and fans second. With 360 bots it is the exact opposite. Well they had better get used to bringing up the rear. And make us all a sandwich while you are cleaning up back there.

They had also better brace themselves because their own company is going to drop kick them. As MS continues to lose the race they are going to move up their timetable for the next console. That means you get dropped like the first Xbox and you get new hardware that isn't tested for the market and isn't sufficiently developed to insure long term cutting edge applicability.

[Mr_Potato_]

@2.4 : amen, morganfell, bubbles for you. I completely agree with you. I'm just fed up with these bitter people and their permanent spin.

[juuken]

Rock on morgan, rock on.

That was well said.

[Aquanox]

Madden 2008 sold vastly more on Xbox 360. Check the numbers, when it was released, the Xbox 360 accounted for 13 times the sales of the PS3 (Yes, the PS3 EA software sales multiplied by 13)

What is surprising is that the PS3 has sold so good in such an irrelevant period. Probably due to Euro 2008, but this even takes place only every 4 years.

[DarkSniper]

This is what happens when Electronic Arts develops games that work at a full 60 frames per second. Clearly PLAYSTATION®3 is where the money is at. While Microsoft was giving EA mindless amounts of cash to sweeten them, Sony was hard at work ensuring that PLAYSTATION®3 is the consumer's choice for multiplatform titles.

Microslaves, say goodbye to Command & Conquer and more importantly Mass Effect. Both of which will undoubtedly be superior on PLAYSTATION®3.

$niper

[Aclay]

As a PS3 owner, I have yet to buy a game developed by EA Games since having my PS3 a month after launch. Dead Space will most likely be my first EA PS3 game... I would have picked up EA's Burnout Paradise when it first came out, but I just HATE the free roaming in the game... they should have kept it just like Burnout 3 Takedown.

Anyways, Sony has reported an increase of PS3 software sales over the past few months as well, but I wouldn't have guessed that EA was making so much money from the PS3 since most multiplatform games sell more on the 360.

[cmrbe]

was because it has a bigger installbase. The PS3 is catching up and the software sales will as well. For the longest time. Most of the major multiplat titles sold more on the PS3 per console.

[XxZxX]

Look like Sony is picking steam. Microsoft no longer can brag about their "So much better" software sales.

[poopsack]

"it sells better because it plays better"

they're gonna have to change that now.

[XxZxX]

it's because it's more reliable and dont throw console tantrum.

[Deathbringer]

so does anyone know wat madden 09 is goin to have like features and all that

[XxZxX]

Be afraid Botsss... Be very afraid.

[morganfell]

Magic 8 Ball says goodbye to those few 360 exclusives left and anything you thought was going to be exclusive. KOTOR III, Jade Empire II, and yes even Mess Effect II.

Also this doesn't just affect EA. Every publisher is looking at that money and realizing they have to get on the PS3 bandwagon. If you are one of these narrow minded Xbots you had better get a stiff drink and some type of groin protection. You are going to need it.

[XxZxX]

i can summarize morganfell paragraphs into 5 words.
The beginning of the end.

[juuken]

...Sony's really going to crush Microsoft. O-o
The beginning of the end indeed.

[pwnsause]

"Be afraid Botsss... Be very afraid."

we need to make a Stephen Colbert Gif image of this statement LOLZ

[UltimaEnder]

This is obviously a typo, 10-1 odds say that we get a retraction tomorrow; this is in no way possible.....

[Meresin]

It does seem a little strange, but maybe it's because the PS3 has fewer games out for it right now. That'd lead to much higher uptake of anything new because there's not a tremendous back catalog to contend with, like on the 360.

I know I've given Bad Company a much longer look than I would have normally simply because I'm tiring of CoD4, and there isn't a long list of other options for me to fall back on.

[XxZxX]

welcome to the rest of the world. This is what happen if you only say US is the only important market.... GUESS AGAIN

[mistertwoturbo]

"That'd lead to much higher uptake of anything new because there's not a tremendous back catalog to contend with, like on the 360."

That'd be true but the PS3 made $131 million and the 360 $86 million.

Looks like our 360 brothers just aren't buying that many EA games.

[Dareaver1]

These figures are wrong, read the financials. PS3 did $68m not $139m.

Bizzarely EA have decided because they don't know enough about PS3 DLC royalties they have decided to estimate what to expect and have taken all expected ESTIMATED royalties for games released in the past and in the present quarter in one hit now! (so the bulk is probably Rockband)

Its a huge fudge to make their loss for the quarter not look so bad, they did not do this for 360 as MS can give them reliable data so the revenue for DLC for MS comes in as when it is paid by gamers.

At the bottom of the quarters accounts it shows the 360 on $81m and the PS3 on $68m so they basically improved their figures by $61m by taking future revenue and only on PS3!!

http://investor.ea.com/phoe...
Edited 1 times. Most recently by GamerG at 12:54 on 30/07/2008

[eagle21]

PS3 $139 million
360 $81 million
ps2 $79 million (still kicking) :)
Wii $57 million

I guess we buy games afterall? Bots are too dumb for words. :P

"What a difference a year makes" should be PS3's commercial....

[cmrbe]

a graph before showing this result. I am sure i have seen these results before.

[name]

Quick tip: Always read Meus's posts.

[name]

The Ps3 had fewer games out last year and it sold significantly less EA titles. And you say the rise in sales is due to lack of games?

[Meresin]

Difference being that there weren't 14.5 million of them in the wild last year. ;)

[morganfell]

And watch Sony easily break 20 mil by end of the calender year.

[hfaze]

"And watch Sony easily break 20 mil by end of the calender year."

With the momentum that Sony has been building up, I would not be surprised with sales of 25 million PS3 consoles by the end of the calendar year.

Think of how many people will get a PS3 this holiday season for God of War 3 alone... Not to mention Resistance 2, Killzone 2, SOCOM, and LBP can add up for some monsterous PS3 sales...

[Meus Renaissance]

Nevermind

[Tacki]

I wonder if this came up when Don Mattrick was doing his math! :)

[chrisnick]

r a smart person.

[morganfell]

Ha ha that is some funny crap. Jeff Greenberg was standing over his shoulder saying, "No no, when you carry a 1 you get to add a magic 4 to it."

[XxZxX]

and Tretton replied, "yup I remmember that 4, the 4 is 4ck you 4.

[mindedone]

I am not surprised in the least considering PAL regions didn't get PS3 til march.

[Skerj]

According to some people I could swear PS3 owners don't buy games, only Blu-Ray movies. Wow. ..this says something different mate.

[cmrbe]

knew that was BS. Even when the PS3 was 1 million behind in Europe Burnout PS3 sold more than the x360 version. DMC , AC as well as other major multiplat games sold similar figures on both the PS3 and x360 world wide despite the fact that the PS3 was 6-8 million behind.

[Meus Renaissance]

More proof

http://www.reuters.com/arti...

[XxZxX]

thanks for reassuring us, such act can only be rewarded with more bubbles.

[hardmetal]

'cause there was no doubt at all that PS3 is getting momentum.

[mistertwoturbo]

Looks pretty legit to me. Interesting if you look at Q1, they only did 13 million. Then Q2 17 million. But whatever in the hell in Fiscal Q3 sparked a huge sale for the PS3. Then the decline of the 360 in Q4. And the overtake in the last Q1 Fiscal '09. Interesting stuff.

PLATFORM NET REVENUE
MIX

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Q1 YOY %
FY08 FY08 FY08 FY08 FY09 Change
------- ------- ------- ------- ------- -------

PLAYSTATION 3 13 17 102 152 139 969%
Xbox 360 47 218 196 128 81 72%

[Dareaver1]

all you are doing is showering people with projections from sony's end. That's it. i'll paste it again with a link to ea's financials....

These figures are wrong, read the financials. PS3 did $68m not $139m.

Bizzarely EA have decided because they don't know enough about PS3 DLC royalties they have decided to estimate what to expect and have taken all expected ESTIMATED royalties for games released in the past and in the present quarter in one hit now! (so the bulk is probably Rockband)

Its a huge fudge to make their loss for the quarter not look so bad, they did not do this for 360 as MS can give them reliable data so the revenue for DLC for MS comes in as when it is paid by gamers.

At the bottom of the quarters accounts it shows the 360 on $81m and the PS3 on $68m so they basically improved their figures by $61m by taking future revenue and only on PS3!!

http://investor.ea.com/phoe...
Edited 1 times. Most recently by GamerG at 12:54 on 30/07/2008

[Cyrus365]

It's easy, Europe was the driver for alot of EA sales on PS3 in Europe. They sell their games in Euro's/UK pounds, the american dollar is down, Euro's are up. Games like Fifa 09, UEFA Euro, Burnout sold well on both platforms, but definitely better on PS3 in Europe, than it did on 360.

[Tacki]

I expected software sales to pick up for third party developers on the PS3... but I can't say I ever imagined to see numbers like this so soon! Really it's amazing when you think about it with the PS3 having the smallest install base.

Well that's great news for Sony. I'm sure more third party developers are going to take note of this and see there's real potential on PS3. Those console owners aren't JUST buying bluray movies!

[Bathyj]

This cant be right. EA dont release BluRay movies do they? I thought just because it plays the best quality movies format available thats all anyone bought for it.

Oh I forgot, it also plays the best games available, I'm such a tool. ;)

[Meus Renaissance]

What I dont understand is that with NPD results and the European software charts (from ChartTrack) do not suggest Sony software annihilating 360 software in regards to EA titles, because atleast that isnt the case in North America. So why are these figures coming from?

[cmrbe]

and remember that the gap is closing in NA as well. Even though i trust NPD. I am most positive its not 100% accurate. I remember reading an article a while ago which states that NPD only accounts for about 60-80% of actual sales in NA.

[Solid_Snake]

i thought numbers from Europe weren't really released. So anything from EA or anyother source is more reliable than any chart posted

[Bebedora]

How can we spin this news to be a negative?

Hmmm... *a look of a man thinking deeply here*

[mistertwoturbo]

Easy.

"But but but, those games play better on my system anyway!"

I don't even have to say from which side of the fanboys that comes from. =)

[Talvish]

Read this....

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

The 360 leads all platforms, but the PS3 has improved a lot.

Update to cahill: You need to calm a bit down. I'm familiar with the differences (again read my posts below). How MS/Sony report/re-imburse EA plays a HUGE role. If they have different practices, and most companies do, then it will have a big impact.

So yes, EA DID recognize more revenue from PS3 than from Xbox 360. I'm not debating that.

What I'm saying is that that does not mean that during the quarter more customers on PS3 spent money on EA games than 360 owners spent on EA games.

When a company recognizes the revenue and when a customer purchases are two different things.

[cahill]

thats non GAAP earnings
http://www.reuters.com/arti...

if u take non-Gaap terms then net loss was 135m but in GAAP terms it is 90m

atleast know before posting crap from NeoTard forum

@TALVISH

theres is no need to see any response cuz you dont even understand the difference between GAAP and NON_GAAP measure

GAAP is NOT for accountants
It is compulsory for US firm to release their statements based on GAAP principles

Neogaf said CRAP cuz that itself is a crappy forum with illiterates

dont teach me anything. I am more educated than any member of Neogaf

Know the diff between GAAP and non-GAAP measures before talking BS

[Bebedora]

But I can see why news like this makes headlines, in the context of the so-called CONSOLE WAR...

Still, this is good news to hear from SONY's point of view AND from those wanting stiffing competition. Am I right?

[Meus Renaissance]

Read the responses. Interesting debate going on there

[cahill]

most members in that forum are uneducated kids . They dont even know the difference between GAAP and NON-GAAP related earnings
so do u think one should even take them seriously

[Bebedora]

I did so. And still I have to assure my self that there is no XBOX mews in it. It's hard to find for me...but that wasn't your intension literarily, I assume.

None the less, I am impressed the PS3 has shiftet that ammount of sales according to EA and prior numbers of PS3 software sales.

[Talvish]

I hope you are not including me in that comment. See my response on the previous page.

To reconcile this fairly so that it is understand when the customer paid you need to understand how MS and Sony pay EA for the microtransactions/Live-PSN game (or how they are able to estimate). When the customer pays and when EA gets the money are two very different things.

MS and Sony, based on what Neo-gaf said, do things differently ... which isnt' a surprise. Every company is different.

Also, let me be clear, I don't say this as a slight against the PS3. The PS3 has seen good growth for EA and that growth is better than the 360.

[Talvish]

I'm familiar with what GAAP is ... I deal with it in my business.

Read my last update to the original message. The misleading part is that the PS3 is killing the 360 in sales. It did lead, by GAAP rules, for recognized revenue for the quarter.

But when the customer SPENT the money is very very different. Things will show up in different quarters depending on a variety of circumstances.

To get a more accurate picture you need to either know how Sony and MS deal with EA OR, if you cannot do that, take the last year in consideration since it tend to shore up differences in how EA works with MS/Sony. That of course isn't accurate. But as more quarters are reported you can at least start trending it.

Like I said, the part that is misleading is assuming that PS3 is killing the 360.

[beoulve]

nice try talvish, thanks for acting like you know so much and I read your explanation and sound like you have no clue what are you talking about. Your spin making me dizzy.

Also if someone private message you, reply him back in private message, such simple task you still don't understand. There is no doubt u dunno what are you talking about.

[Talvish]

What am I trying to spin? I personally don't care where EA gets its money from. It's good for the entire industry that more money is being spent and it is good for EA if they can see increased sales off the current-gen consoles, particularly the PS3/360, since those are the consoles I'm personally more interested in.

I'm not going to try to debate if I know more or less than other people, I don't know you or cahill, so I'm not going to make an assumption.

But I do know how numbers are reported and how numbers show up on books, I deal with every quarter myself (the accountants do the work, I sign the paperwork). And I know that you cannot look at these numbers and make assumptions that the PS3 folks are spending more on EA games than 360 customers are.

Only point that is important is understanding that when a company recognizes revenue and when customers spend the money are two different things. If you want to see if PS3 is really beating the 360, if that is important to you, simpy watch the next few quarters. The trends are much harder to debate.

[Kleptic]

Talvish...great post...I see what you are saying...

the only way to break it down though is that its simply irrelevant...in the 'generally accepted' way of reporting the earnings...EA made significantly more money from the PS3 this quarter than they did from MS...if you take it from accounting principles that are not 'generally accepted', EA made a lot of that money in a different quarter...which makes it moot imo...they made the money from the PS3...other businesses look at the GAAP circumstances more than anything (as the whole point of GAAP is to make earnings statements somewhat universal)...and that is what is significant about this news...

I only took 1 accounting class in college...so I am no expert...but whoever wrote the quote you submitted is making it sound like the PS3 number includes nearly 60 million dollars worth of 'projected income'...and if there was one thing I remembered from that class, you cannot include projections that inflate an income statement...at least not legally...

that was over 4 years ago though...maybe things have changed...

[pwnsause]

see EA if you make S**t games on PS3, no one is going to buy em. Now that you are making good games that look good on PS3, you get your money, but it also makes you listen to PS3 owners not to neglect their install base.

[XxZxX]

PS2+PS3 = massive win, sorry bots don't even realize they go hand in hand. One go up one go down, see the trend there and sadly XBOX 360 dont't even get a bone when PS2 going to down. All goes to PS3. Just look at the report. PS3+PS2+PSP, good god from sony.

[cmrbe]

Devs bring quality we give them cash.

[i_like_ff7]

The king is back...

[cmrbe]

I know i saw a chart showing this before.

[PimpHandHappy]

is just starting

wait 2 years and ask me why i want a Xbox720

[kingofps3]

Time for some Mass Effect for EA thanks to the PS3!

[games4fun]

the sh!t is hitting the fan over at msoft right about now,

the whole point of their strategy was to make 3rd parties like them more, and now sony outsells them to the biggest 3rd party developer

[pwnsause]

its obvious why, PS2 owners Moving on to PS3, install base increasing rapidly, Build Quality on PS3 version Matches or overtakes the 360 version, 1st Party titles/3rd Party Exclusives(Ex.MGS4) help sell multiplatform games(ex. Went to pick up MGS4, and saw a copy of Burnout Paradise, what did i do, I brought Both games)

Now do sales matter? yes it does matter. it makes a 3rd Party company decide weather or not they should make a new ip or old franchise lead on the PS3 or not.

Still think it doesnt? Toshiba said Disc sales dont matter; they said this before Warner Brothers Picked Blu-Ray over HD-DVD because Disc sales were higher on the Blu-ray Front for them. sorry to bring format wars up, but this is a good relation on whats going on in the console war.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

its the hardcore gamer who said phuck avatars & Phuck gamerscores!
its the gang of friends who were tired of saying sorry to eachother for having rrod!
gamers in general who were tired of spending so much money &
what they used to love about home consoles!
m$ tried to convert the gamer into a casual homo who buys water for $5 dollars.
its gonna be real hard for m$ to come out from its identity crisis. I don't think they will
survive the medias backlash the way ps3 did at launch!

LOL @ desperate xbutts!!!

Now I'm gonna get the best record on burnout paradise &
unlock some guns on bad company on celebration of more
bigger & badder 3rd party versions in the future!

@EA
please use the other 89 percent of my bluray disc!!!
NOW!

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

Oh man poor xbots, they must be crying a river now :(

[Dark General]

Hopefully this can persuade EA to put a little pressure on BioWare to make the rest of the Mass Effect games multiplatform.

[mistertwoturbo]

Hopefully they release a patch for The Orange Box now...

lol j/k, we all know that still isn't going to happen

[psnCAShville_615]

i honestly im stunned. ea sport david rutter a fifa 08 producer for next gen console saiD " ps3 version of fifa will look atleast good as 360, why ea why ...cmon make the ps3 your native dev tool. you can;t go wrong our bluray needs get filled!

[GameDev]

RUH ROH SHAGGY LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE IS LYING BIGTIME ABOUT THEIR INSTALL BASE.

Many of us have said it before, Ms has been lying out their beehind about the number of crapboxes in peoples homes. THEY REALLY ARE COUNTING RROD REFURBS!!!!!!!

The numbers don't lie, are PS3 owners buying multiple copies of the same games? NO I think the jig is UP and the software numbers prove it.

[morganfell]

I think this is actually bigger than people realize. I know I am on my 4th 360. Did they count me 4 times? I know have been screwed 3 times so what about that number.

[psnCAShville_615]

YEP XBOX FANNYS DROP YO PANTYS FANBOYS AND COME HOME!!!

[Kratos Spartan]

THIS...IS...SONY!!

[dale1]

butt, butt, butt we have the highest attach rate, worldwide makes a big difference

[PirateThom]

So... about Red Alert 3?

[yanikins111]

so who wants to put bets on RA3 coming to ps3? ;)

EDIT: Beat me too it ya little b**** ;)

[PirateThom]

I have a 360, but I refuse to buy it for a console if I can't use a keyboard and mouse and my laptop likely won't run it.

PS3 is the only option if they include KB/M support.

[mistertwoturbo]

Yeah Pirate. I seriously hate that Sony isn't pushing M/KB support for certain types of games. To date, only UT3 has M/KB support.

[Solid_Skip]

that they wake up and start making the ps3 games better...I also wish they would make the football games alot better instead of the same game with one new move, EA sux

[Dmack79]

I needed to change my pants after I saw that sales increase. This is still the Year of the PS3!

Beginning of The END!

[rawd]

WAIT UNTIL I BUY FIFA09 THIS OCTOBER THEN IT WILL BE $139,000,059.99

[Dareaver1]

Just wait for the actual numbers to come in, everything will look differently and EA is going to look like an A$$. Look at NPD numbers and even the numbers from the European tracking companies. They don't ad up at all. These are projections since Sony and MS report sales differently to EA.

All this fuss over nothing. I actually think that EA did this on purpose to try to get Sony Fans coming back to their company. EA has left many Sony Fans jaded with their half-a$$ed ports, and now they are trying to bait them back.

This is really sad, EA is behaving very weird.

[_Q_]

It says 09 in the colum that says 139 can someone break that down I'm not much for these rev sheets but the list looks like its revenue projections.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

ps2 vs the WII
ps2 vs xbox360
ps3 vs no competition ( maybe 720 or nintendo new system )

Anyone who calls the WII next-gen clearly knows nothing about gaming
360 is good comp but seriously ps2 stood against the first xbox and the 360
ps3- am not telling you to get a ps3 but wait till you do get one , Than you'll know what I mean( but please have a 1080p TrueHD TV ready or else your not getting the full experienced ?

[SolidSnake93]

I never saw this coming...

[goomba]

finally, maybe they treat the ps3 with some respect now

[IzKyD1331]

there arent many bots spamming the comments.......wonder why :)

[RoyBoys]

lol that is true. Because they are speechless. They saw this and either thought about suicide or drove to the nearest retailer and bought a PS3!

[gersh]

Wow!