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NPD data: PS3 outsold Xbox 360 in February, says Pachter

Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter has told videogaming247 that his firm expects that PS3 outsold Xbox 360 in February, ahead of the release of NPD data on Thursday. PS3's lead over the Microsoft machine, Pachter reasoned, was due to continuing supply issues for Xbox 360.

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mighty_douche5883d ago (Edited 5883d ago )

Is it only me who find's "supply issues" hard to believe?? 3 years into production.

Either way, with the price cut, i expect MS will see a good few months!

Marceles5883d ago

They're gonna keep saying that until they go back to outselling the PS3. Either that or they'll barely beat the PS3 and they'll say "we won and we STILL have supply issues, just wait until GTA4 comes out!" Yeah, we'll see what happens in April..

sonarus5883d ago

well everywhere i went i still saw 360's but i can't say they were in abundant supply. I never saw a store which said they were currently out of xbox360's however i do believe there were supply issues. Its more of msoft holding back consoles for one reason or the other though. Looks like npd is going to be close once again. LOL remember when ps3 was struggling to beat game boy advance. lol

marinelife95883d ago

I've also seen 360's but I mainly only shop at Best Buy so I can't comment on other stores and I wasn't really paying attention to 360's a month ago before they started claiming they were running short.

Maybe their having problems because they're planning a limited edition graffiti covered GTAIV SKU that doesn't include the game again.

Salvadore5883d ago (Edited 5883d ago )

The 360 has been out 3 years and for Microsoft to suddenly explain the reason as being "supplement issues" doesn't sound right.

TheTwelve5883d ago

Well, I usually look at the Amazon bestseller list to get a general view of market trends, and the PS3 is pwning 360 there.

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darx5883d ago

I can't believe that the "supply issues" are that important to you?

Torch5883d ago (Edited 5883d ago )

"Is it only me who find's "supply issues" hard to believe??"

Oh, not at all sir:

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catal...

http://www.bestbuy.ca/catal...

http://www.futureshop.ca/ca...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site...

http://www.costco.ca/Browse...

http://www.circuitcity.com/...

http://www.ebgames.com/sear...

The above sources state the machine as in stock and effortlessly available for purchase at the time of this writing...err, typing...including the <ahem> "Limited Edition" Halo and Elite flavours...so I can't help but wonder that some other form underhanded MS tactic is amiss.

A desperate attempt to stir consumer awareness and demand, perhaps?

Regardless, I cry foul!!!

Guwapo775883d ago

+1 to you for taking the time to research the information. /salute

This is supply issue IMHO, should be taken with a grain of salt. Even on remote places like Guam they have plenty of 360's in stock. I'm sure this would be the one of the last places they would make them available if there was a supply shortage.

wow4u5883d ago

The Xbox 360 was first available in November, 2005 - and was not widely available until Q2 06.

AT *best* it is accurate to say 27 months. Not 36 months "3 years".

JoelR5883d ago

Nobody is talking about the fact that the 80 gig PS3 was also nowhere to be found.
Both the PS3 (upper model) and the X360 (upper Model) had supply constraints.

Megaton5883d ago

Amazon has the Core Arcade, standard 20gig, and Elite all in stock, and it's been that way for awhile. The only version in the top 100 is the 20gig, and it's currently at #67.

Genki5883d ago

to having supply issues this year...interesting.

LastDance5883d ago

Im thinking they arent doing a full restock until the new Skus are out instead of selling every1 a rod box.

CrazedFiend5882d ago

But this one says Xbox beat PS3 in February.
http://www.n4g.com/industry...

Why are we even wasting our time on this?

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doodle5883d ago

that PS3 outsold X360

so their statemments released earlier has no value now

http://www.thesimexchange.c...

PS3 --273000
x360 -- 272000

NOTE :- Simexchange is based on RANDOM USER predictions NOT CONCRETE DATA from retailers

power of Green 5883d ago (Edited 5883d ago )

Enjoy it while it last. Crazy all these prediction post come out today.

doodle5883d ago

2008 is the last year for x360 in the market

this is they year when PS3 outsells GARBAGE TRASH 3 FIX ME in USA too by big margins

when MGS4 lands x360 wont exist in the market anymore

in eu that GARBAGE TRASH 3 FIX ME is already dead

ben hates you5883d ago

i really don't know what anyone cares about console sales

jadenkorri5883d ago

360 will be around even if the ps3 outsells the 360 every month.....I mean seriously sony murdered the N64 and GC which both barely survived and they came back with the Wii (which is outselling the ps3). Sony even killed off the xbox, but then they came back with the 360...If you can't admit the MS did good then you are an ignorant fanboy who should just stop posting, your just demeaning yourself saying ps3 is better...All consoles are great in their own way and what i find really annoying is people comparing the game graphics when their multi-platform and look at every little detail... And if game goes multi-platform that start on sony...so what...the company wants to make more money...can you blame them...be like your boss walking up to you and giving you a raise and you say no.

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You bought an Xbox5883d ago

New ? !!!!!
This is the trend now for PS3 sale's
To be kicking the Crap outa the KaKBox week in and week out
Get used to it

Xbots Suck

Kaz Hirai5883d ago

Sometimes I pity the PIGS- they were deceived by Nazisoft's FILTHY lies and bought an absolute TRAVESTY of a "console"!
And do you know what I do next, you MEAT-HEADED PIGS?
I laugh!

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

iAmPS35883d ago

Kaz you have the best comments!!! Keep it up.

mirroredderorrim5882d ago

I love you Kaz. But you fear Godfather Kuturagi. Admit it.

Teijo5882d ago

keep it up Kaz
Sony will dominate next gen just like they did last gen.

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meepmoopmeep5883d ago (Edited 5883d ago )

and the supply issues
it's probable but very unlikely or else there would have been news about the manufacturing companies falling behind or having issues producing them well before making a statement to the public.

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70 percent of devs unsure of live-service games sustainability

With so many games fighting for players' attention and interest losing out over time, time sink games are at risk of eventually losing steam.

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thorstein1d 6h ago

It was worrisome to begin with.

It's a niche genre with only a handful of hits that can stand the test of time.

Cacabunga9h ago

I like the sound of that!! I will for sure never support these gaas games.
Sony must be shocked at gamer's reaction, making them cancel a few of these and hopefully go back to the good heavy hitters they had us used to..
now bring on that PSPro reveal and show us some SP 1st party awesomeness.

CrimsonWing691d 5h ago

What’s to be unsure of!? Look at the ratio of success to failure!

DarXyde12h ago

It's pretty ridiculous.

Imagine having a breadth of data at your disposal to see the statistically low success rate of these games, only to be laser focused on the exceptional case studies.

shinoff21831d 4h ago

Yes. Stop all the live service bs.

jznrpg1d 3h ago

Only a few will catch on. You need a perfect storm to be successful in GaaS and a bit of luck on top of that. But a potential cash cow will keep them trying and some will go out of business because of it.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 3h ago

Helldivers 2 manages just fine…

Keep production costs low… don’t just make custscenes until the mechanics and enemies are perfected first.

Make so much content that you can drip extra content for years, and the game already feels complete without them.

Most importantly: make weapons, enemies, levels, and mechanics that will stand the test of 1000 hours. This might require more devs embracing procedurally generated leveled, which I think separates Helldivers 2 from Destiny’s repetitiveness.

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The Battle Pass Is The Worst Thing To Happen To Modern Gaming

Nameer from eXputer: "Some exceptions aside, I don't think the battle pass is a net positive for gaming with how they're implemented in most live service titles."

got_dam1d 7h ago

Battle passes AND meta gaming both.

DivineHand1251d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I like the way Helldivers 2 does battle passes. It allows you to make purchases on each level of the battle pass and gives you the option of choosing which item to unlock first. The more purchases you make using medals the further you progress. There is no timer and you can earn medals towards purchasing stuff via personal orders and Major orders.

I haven't played much live service games that have battle passes but I remember some games that have battle passes where you progress through it linearly using an exp system. What makes it really bad is that the battle pass will have like 50 or more levels with the cooler stuff being closer to the end. They also have an in-game shop that sells exp boosters so you can reach the end of the pass before it refreshes. Everyone ilse will have to grind their way through.

lucian2291d 5h ago

battle pass in fortnite is perfect; buy one and it buys the rest for every other season as it gives you more money than the first cost. so 8.50 and season ends with you getting 13.00, it pays for the next and you have some pocket change to save up for cash shop. All of which is optional

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy852d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted2d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere2d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook71d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy851d 21h ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga1d 20h ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher1d 6h ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble1d 1h ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike1d 20h ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv721d 10h ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

BoneMagnus1d 8h ago

@darth - Nice collection!

crazyCoconuts1d 3h ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire1d 8h ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga1d 6h ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk1d 15h ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7211d 10h ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty1d 4h ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds1d 14h ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx121d 14h ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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