Is Halo: Reach Just More of the Same Halo?

Nike - 17 days 13 hours ago

I'm pretty sure that every FPS game needs to have weapons, maps, story and gameplay elements to be liked these days. :P

Also, it's not been stated whether the X-Engine is being used for this game. Or much less if it officially exists.

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wxer - 17 days 11 hours ago

"and The New X-Engine."

lol
keep tellin that to your self

on topic
a big fat YES

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Blaze929 - 17 days 11 hours ago

We don't know...no one outside of Bungie/Microsoft has played it yet -_-

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heroicjanitor - 17 days 11 hours ago

What exactly would be wrong with that? People love Halo's gameplay, what matters is that it is more refined. This argument has been used against ps3 games in the past and it's very annoying... Killzone not original enough... It's a damn fps, but I doubt people will mark this game down saying not original enough.

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sikbeta - 17 days 10 hours ago

What are anyone is expecting a platformer Halo? lol

Halo is always the same, not gonna change and fans love it that way, so this article doesn't make any sense, move on....

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Gun_Senshi - 17 days 9 hours ago

Story, Lol

Anyway of Course Halo Reach is like other Halos, FFS it is Halo!?

What you expect to play Barbie and her Pony?

If I buy CoD MW2 I expect COD Game not a Racing game.

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TotalPS3Fanboy - 17 days 8 hours ago

Where's the innovation, Halo?

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paul0388 - 17 days 8 hours ago

Jesus Christ, I'm a known Sony fan, but I'm only a fan, not a fanboy. I like games and think Sony exclusives are a cut above the rest.

But with that said, I'm still excited about Halo: Reach, because I'm a fan of games.

So why try to judge before the game even comes out??? Give it a fair shot...

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paul0388 - 17 days 8 hours ago

It looks more like a Halo / Team Fortress 2 hybrid - which would be AWESOME!!!

Don't judge the game until you get your hands on it...

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randomwiz - 17 days 8 hours ago

of course its going to be halo. Just "bigger, better, more badass"

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coolfool - 17 days 8 hours ago

And people will love it and buy it!

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Chubear - 17 days 8 hours ago

..and you're telling me they won't pay $100 a year, every year, to play Halo Reach online? Riiiight.

Every single halo fan that said they'd never pay 100bucks for Live are just BSing themselves. Hey, if you think the game is worth that then that's great and you can do that but don't BS yourself.

MS knows their base, that's why they feel comfortable raising the price of Live by $50. They'll throw in 1 or 2 more social networking features and that's that.

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Unending Punishment - 17 days 7 hours ago

Halo Reach shouldn't be speculated on until we get closer to its release. And if it caries over everything from Halo 3 and ODST that they did right then that's fine with me. Since this is the first work they'll be doing with a new engine it's to be expected that the graphics are going to see much improvement. So it's going to look great, but besides that we know nothing of the game.

Oh, and Halo isn't the only series out there with 5 games it its roster. And Xbox Live won't be $100.

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GWAVE - 17 days 7 hours ago

Of course it will just be "more of the same", and the media will worship it for it...

...yet, in the same breath the media will turn around and slam a dozen other non-Halo games for being "too much of the same" and "not enough innovation" and "not enough of a graphical upgrade" etc etc etc.

Just goes to show how objective video game journalists are (protip: not at all).

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Cold 2000 - 17 days 6 hours ago

More of the same PERFECT gameplay.

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GWAVE - 17 days 6 hours ago

@ Cold 2000

Halo's gameplay is not perfect. No game is.

See, it's that exact attitude of "OMG! HALO IS ALREADY TEH PERFEXX!" which allows Bungie to put minimal effort into improving the game instead of giving gamers the improvements and advancements they deserve.

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Ausbo - 17 days 6 hours ago

Halo 2 revolutionized online multiplayer, and halo 3 innovated even more with the forge and community features for live multiplayer.

Sure it didn't look so great, but it was fun and is one reason why millions still play it online.

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BaseballFan15 - 17 days 4 hours ago

I hope so

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vhero - 17 days 3 hours ago

"Where's the innovation, Halo? "

LOL Halo and innovation?? They have never gona together since the first game every game except Halo wars has been exactly the bloody same more or less with slight differences and slight graphics upgrades. Its like getting a respray on your car but having to pay for the whole bloody car again! I feel like i'm taking crazy pills that nobody else sees this crap.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Shepherd 214 - 17 days 3 hours ago

Halo was innovative because it brought regenerating health to the FPS that most FPS's use today.

Halo also brought the two weapon system to the FPS, which forced players to choose between two weapons instead of picking up dozens like in previous FPS's.

Halo 2 also invented the lobby system that Halo 3 improved on, and games like COD 4 and Gears of War 2 adopted.

Halo has done plenty of innovation, and all they need to do now is refine the gameplay.

p.s., the story of the Halo series is far more in-depth than any of you fanboys can comprehend, and the funny thing is, you dont even want to try to comprehend it, which makes you ignorant. funny stuff.

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DanWelsh86 - 16 days 21 hours ago

WOW! a fake new engine which is exactly the same as the old one that does nothing and noone cares about? Loved the first Halo on PC, this is where I stopped though, because it hasn't actually changed has it since then?

Perhaps the reason why I have no need or actual desire to own an Xbox is because I see Halo for what it is? a Yawnfest that has an engine which is slow and clunky, and a multiplayer which will just isn't enjoyable, it actually feels like floating through zero gravity.

I wouldn't complain if Bungie tried to do something? Anything? but it's just a continuum of this dogshite that got boring in 2004. People with an xbox consider this to be flagship? It's Aids in electronic form.

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JonnyBadfinger - 16 days 19 hours ago

wouldnt want my Halo any other way, but the same.

For me Halo is perfect, it has a story i like, characters i like and gameplay i like.

Why are people to eager to turn ALL FPS games into COD???

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MrAnonymous - 16 days 13 hours ago

to all the ppl COMPLAINING about Reach being more of the same halo...what exactly are you ppl thinking about when you think it should be changed?

i mean, its easy enough to say (or type in this case) that is the same old thing, but what specifically did you expect to be changed? graphics, gameplay, audio, visual, weapons, perspective, etc etc etc...?

EDIT: because there is already a storyline that halo basically is following (with the exceptions of the open-ended spinoffs halo wars and odst, and now reach) so the story cant exactly be changed, graphics look like they have changed (but not good enough for you ppl), gameplay cannot be determined from screens, neither can audio, weapons and visuals tie into graphics, perspective...i personally love first person view and would like to keep it like that, but other than that, what do you expect to change

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Nike - 17 days 12 hours ago

I was also kind of hoping that if there were ever a moment in the game where you had to work concurrently with the other Spartans, the game could employ a Republic Commando style command system. Since this squad does some insane stuff in the novel Fall of Reach, many unique commands could be issued depending on the environment.

That'd be pretty cool, and something I sorely wished ODST could have incorporated, even it were directly lifted from Republic Commando.

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ASSASSYN 36o - 16 days 14 hours ago

Funny all this time I thought Halo was the first ring discovered which debut occurred in HALO combat evolved on the xbox was the first ring destroyed. And master chief and another spartan in cyro stasis due to his injuries were the only survivers of reach along with 4 marines they brought back to the pillar of autumn not KIA or MIA...funny. And if master chief returned to reach after Halo (the first ring) was destroyed he would have found the planet glassed by the covenant fleet. So explain that!?

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MrAnonymous - 16 days 13 hours ago

halo(s) are the weapons the forerunners built that was going to be used to destroy the flood, there are 7 in total i think

after destroying the first halo, he didnt go back to reach, he went to earth in new mombasa, africa...which was built to replace old mombasa, and then to the arc to stop the other halo rings from being activated

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The Meerkat - 16 days 13 hours ago

Not all of Reach was glassed. The underground complex was left untouched so that covanent ground forces could recover a forerunner crystal hidden under ground. MC went back there on a captured covanent flag ship called Ascendant Justice after he escaped from the destruction of the first Halo ring. MC then takes some spartan survivors from Reach and attacks the covanent invasion fleet at the space station Unyielding Hierophant. They destroy 488 ships by blowing the space station reactor then go back to earth. I think MC and 3 other spartans survive. Then they go back to earth.

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Tiberium - 17 days 5 hours ago

So you think LEAKED photos from a crappy camera, from a 2009 build of a 2010 game represent the final product? BTW last I checked you can't see Gameplay from a screenshot. Screenshot=Speculation

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The Emperor - 17 days 3 hours ago

I hate to bring this into discussion, but if you think Halo hasn't done anything new, well sorry buddy, neither has UC2 or Killzone 2... does that mean I won't play them? No. I just hate how everyone says KZ2 and UC2 are so original then turn around and say Halo and Gears are nothing new... maybe now they aren't, since UC and REsistance/Killzone just copied them..

Yeah I said it

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paul0388 - 17 days 2 hours ago

Don't bring Uncharted 2 into this fight. Speak all you want about Killzone 2 but leave Uncharted 2 out of it. What that game did that was different was to bring as much passion and attention to the story as they did to the gameplay. Gears of war doesn't even belong in the same sentence as Uncharted 2.

Yes, his comment was asinine, but give credit where credit is due... You sound like you have some bias in there yourself buddy.

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The Emperor - 16 days 19 hours ago

Call me bias, oh well.
PSN: conquerer54
LIVE: xi TheGodfather

Both real accounts, both me. I can say what I want about either one of these systems, since I've experienced both. I have Platinum on UC2, check your self if you like. I can say that UC1 was better, since there were no trophy's, no online... nothing but a good, solid campaign to keep you coming back.

Don't use the "Omg UC2 did something with the story that no one has done before!" Sure. Uncharted 2 is definitely good, maybe even great, just open your eyes, it is not perfect.

Back on topic, Halo Reach will be a great game, I don't need to hype it at all, because I have A LOT of confidence it will be great.

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SRT4Chris401 - 16 days 19 hours ago

Apparently you didn't read my statement clearly. I said it appeared to look the same. I said granted they are early build photos, and bad photos at that. But my opinion on not choosing to play it due to type of gameplay halo is. I'm not gonna play it.

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Tiberium - 16 days 18 hours ago

neither are you, fanboy :P

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Sarcasm - 17 days 11 hours ago

Sort of agree, they already tried to do a different type of Halo and that was Halo Wars.

People who are Halo fans will most likely just want more Halo.

It's not too hard to fathom. It's like those people who said "Uncharted 2 feels like Uncharted 1" Well dur, it's a *gasp* Sequel!

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BaseballFan15 - 17 days 4 hours ago

QFT

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DARK WITNESS - 17 days 11 hours ago

exactly....

maybe GT5 should have guns and rocket launchers, the next killzone should be a platform game, Mario should be an FPS.

isn't street fighter still a 1v1 head on fighting game ? has it not used the same formula since being on the SNES... didn't they try to go all 3rd and it didn't do so well.

it's only a crime to use the same formula of gameplay when it's halo.

Uncharted, as much as i love the game and think it's amazing, it still uses the basic formula of the first. what has really changed about it. better graphics, better story, new weapons and enemy types.. if it did anything else people would moan that they are changing it too much.. but no this is halo so its' crap because they have not evolved it.

as i said, if people are not happy that halo hasn't changed then play something else.

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bjornbear - 17 days 10 hours ago

ODST, despite its value being crippled, it was DIFFERENT.

i think this is what the article means.

And U2 was not just "more" of U1, it is rather different.

Same gameplay mechanics sure, but implementation of stealth moves, first person zoom, NO water bike scene, multiplayer and co-op.

to say U2 is more of the same of U1 like many other games, i'd have to disagree strongly. R1 vs R2 is more correct, or even just say RE4 to RE5.

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Venatus-Deus - 17 days 10 hours ago

Yes and No

I didn’t play R1 or R2, however U2 is very different from U1. The gameplay is the same, however:

**SPOILERS**

In U2 everything is bigger and better. You have the collapsing building (which you’re inside), the train chapter and the jumping trucks section, Stealth, platforming while shooting sections, explosive gas tanks everywhere. Even the TPS shooter multiplayer incorporates platforming.

**END SPOILERS**

I think that if you just have Halo3 with a few new weapons, multiplayer maps and a new story then it will disappoint. It will not be bad; however as gamers we have been very lucky recently, so although I don’t expect innovation, lots of improvement would be very nice.

If it’s built using the same engine then to me it would be a massive shame.

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PoisonedTea - 17 days 10 hours ago

I understand the point you're making but you've inadvertently revealed the problem at the heart of the issue: Uncharted 2 is only the second in the series, as is Resistance, Killzone, etc.

Halo: Reach will be the FIFTH instalment in the series, unless I'm very much mistaken (Halo, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo: Reach). The 5th in a series that is still fundamentally the same as the first instalment nearly a decade ago. I think this is what people are rallying against. But if it's genuinely good game then obviously it deserves any accolades that will come its way. If it's gonna talked up just because it's another Halo game, then not so much.

Although to be fair, the same can be argued against the Final Fantasy series, although I can't comment as I've not been able to get my head around them - AT ALL! Sorry, it's just not my cup of tea.

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Why o why - 17 days 10 hours ago

if its not more of the same it just wouldnt be halo BUT what will the reviewers who have been vying for originality of late say. Will they throw that crap out the window....I believe so. I mean if Ratchet and clank acit is 'more of the same' and a problem then couldn't the same be said of this despite the R+C series splitting the main characters apart giving crank more puzzle solving levels akin to 'portal' .....free roaming space missions and exploration?? When I buy an orange i want an orange....originality shouldnt come into it to such an extent. I mean you COULD go the banjo and kazooe route but look how its core fans liked that...As far as im concerned the next iteration of any game should ADD something to its predecessor NOT change its whole essence unless its a generational/technical jump ie mario from 2d to 3d. Other than those jumps its going to be hard for any sequel to redefine anything.

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DARK WITNESS - 17 days 10 hours ago

@ bjornbear

I get what you mean, but I think in general its how the game overall plays, if you know what i mean.

for example saying uncharted 2 is different because it does not have the water jet-sky scene... well I would not expect uncharted2 to have that. its a part of uncharted 1 that was specific to what was going on in the story. Naturally uncharted is a different adventure so i would not expect a repeat. In the same way, I would not expect uncharted 3 to have a similar scene with the train tavel because it's something that was unique to the story being told.

adding multiplayer adds value to game 100 fold, but it's not like the multiplayer is a completely different style of gameplay. adding things like first person zoom on weapons is more of a gameplay tweek. just like in odst they added zoom to the smg.

in my opinion, uncharted two was a different experience to uncharted one because it was much better perfected. I played 1 and didn't enjoy it that much. I played 2 and loved it.

with odst, the game story is told in a very different way to the other halo games and that's what makes it unique.. again there are little tweeks here and there that make it overall better.. but the fundamental aspects of the gameplay or the core thing that makes it halo is very much the same.

what i am getting at is most people go on about halo like they expect some huge evolution from it.

uncharted is still a third person action platform. the multiplayer is still third person... the aiming system, climbing etc is still the same. odst is still the fps, the weapons are for the most part still the same ( which again is what i would expect given the context of the story etc )... but people keep going on about it being the same old same old as if it should be something completely different.

thats all I am saying.

I don't want halo to change the way some people seem to surest it should. The same way you say uncharted 2 is not the same as uncharted 1 is the same way halo has evolved from the first, but the core aspects are the same, and so they should be.

I do agree with some of the other guys in that, I don't think a game should NOT get a free pass just because its halo( or any other sequel for that matter). each game should be reviewed and scored on it's own merits. for example, I rate halo CE way higher then 2 and 3..but would also rate ODST better then halo 3. it was lacking because it was short, but in terms of the way the game played, it played a lot more like halo CE which i thought was a good thing. I think halo 3 was overrated in many ways, yet at the same time it was underrated in other areas, overall I would have scored it lower..

anyway, I am babbling now.

peace.

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SoX FireBlade - 17 days 9 hours ago

People like halo as it is including me, every halo game did something new except for ODST it was good and i really enjoyed it but nothing new in the gaming industry but at the same time it was different

in terms of gameplay it's not that different but it's fun they just make some tweaks that make the game better ( if you played halo 2 and halo 3 you will know the difference )

same goes to Uncharted 2 i liked the graphics the sound and the presentation of the game but the gameplay wasn't that fun to me, especially the shooting elements, the puzzles and the platroming were better but the shooting didn't like it, it was the same as the first uncharted.Since I am a big fan of shooting games, it will complicated to me what are the good shooting elements. Something like Halo will be the best for me. People liked it in Uncharted 2 i didn't so it was fine to me at least i liked something

And these photos are fake

the picture with the battle rifle:

as you can see the character's hand is taken from call of duty 4, look at the weapon it looks broken if you look closely

the picture with the rocket launcher the back of the enemy in front of master chief has the head of master chief and i think he has the flamethrower from halo 3 i didn't know that brutes have a master chief head on their back

they are just edited photos that been used with many games in one to make look like halo reach and Bungie said that they are making a new engine so i have big faith in them

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WMW - 17 days 7 hours ago

sorry but uncharted is definitely not more of the same
1. multiplayer yes it plays like the single player but it is still a new addition to the franchise and has new original game modes

2. stealth

3. teamwork you work more with the characters your with while in uncharted 1 you didn't need them at all

4. new AI now the enemies don't know where you are magically they actually look for you also they communicate with each other unlike the 1st one

5. the climbing is different

6. the cover system is also different because now you can stealth attack from behind cover, you can turn corners with out leaving cover and a few other things

7. grenades are done different then the first

and that is just some new things about the gameplay if we go in to the technical stuff like fighting on top of moving objects and how they affect the gameplay. PoisonedTea makes the best point this will be the 5th halo it should not be the same as the 1st they don't need to change the core gameplay just add something new to the game

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Nike - 17 days 12 hours ago

Good point, but look at your tense. "Threw". Past tense. The PS3 has caught up in a big way - so much as to actually outsell the Wii in the September NPD report.

That said, this is the same game that millions of dedicated fans enjoy, and MS knows how to market it's crack. It may not draw many new fans to the series at the rate it's going, or innovate past it's track record, but pretty sure that's not what the devs wanted in the first place.

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HolyOrangeCows - 17 days 11 hours ago

"I'd rather play sales from 2007 than Killzone 2, Infamous, Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, Ratchet and Clank, etc"

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4point7BillionLoss - 17 days 10 hours ago

when it dropped price ... it's sales were greater than PS3 world wide for over a year ... until the PS3 dropped price.

The difference is the xbox made a profit ... Sony made a $4.7 bollion loss ... and after the price drop will continue to lose ...

ps3 is currently last place ... nothing changed

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keysy420 - 17 days 10 hours ago

behind in this gen sales to the 360

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buying1999 - 17 days 8 hours ago

here we go. More recycled Halo.

PS3...get on board or be left behind

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Chubear - 17 days 8 hours ago

.. and when you look at the way 360 fans are rabidly defending what they see here, you really think they won't pay 100bucks to pay Halo Reach?

Hell, if MS gave them was pseudo 3D Halo Reach themed environment for 360miis and charged $14.99 for it, they'd buy it in a heart beat and you think they wouldn't pay 8bucks a month to play Halo? Yeah right.

Any 360fan that tells you they'd NEVER pay 100bucks a year for Live is talking through their tuckus. If you find a way to justify paying 50bucks a year now, you'll find a reason to justify 100bucks. MS know their base very well.

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xxPIETROxx - 17 days 6 hours ago

except its slightly craper graphics than last time round, and a few less fans to buy it

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Drake64 - 17 days 3 hours ago

keep urself in denial please.

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IRetrouk - 16 days 15 hours ago

check your sales figs mate, the ps3 has out sold xbox every year since it got released, the only reason it is ahead is the little year headstart it had, sony is coming back and not even halo reach can stop it.

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Nike - 17 days 12 hours ago

Half-Life, Doom, Quake, Timesplitters, Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament...ringing any bells?

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cyborg6971 - 17 days 12 hours ago

Killzone the biggest joke ever no that would be your life.

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HolyOrangeCows - 17 days 11 hours ago

"RROD tape service"

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4point7BillionLoss - 17 days 10 hours ago

Shame

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keysy420 - 17 days 9 hours ago

your nut first off mdw desroyed halo in sales. i personally like killzone over halo oyu cant even zoom in halo wtf futuristic shoot cant zoom. halo mdw2 haS alot of people looking like they will get whatever a company says is good

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UnwanteDreamz - 17 days 3 hours ago

It must suck having a console that is a one trick pony. Wake me up when you get another title besides Halo to brag about.

Why do you brag again? I mean what has Halo got that no other FPS has? Answer=nothing

There is no more stale genre than the FPS right now IMO.

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Nike - 17 days 11 hours ago

Metal Gear Solid 4 and God of War 3. There ya go, that's 2. :)

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HolyOrangeCows - 17 days 11 hours ago

No, PS3 fans don't play sales charts.....they actually have lots of games this year, unlike the 360.

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Moebius69 - 17 days 7 hours ago

GRAN TURISMO

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Pirateogta - 17 days 6 hours ago

I seem to recall a lot of PS3 fanboys playing sales when the September NPD came out. Funny, because the PS3 was outsold by the 360 for 13 months straight, and then slightly beats the 360 in sales for one month and the PS3 fanboys act like the 360 is doomed. Talk about delusional.

And the 360 has the same exact number of AAA games and AAA exclusives as the PS3 so far this year, according to MetaCritic. 360 owners are playing just as many games as PS3 owners, if not more.

MGS4 did not break any sales records, nor has it sold 10 million copies. Everyone knows the name Halo, and all gamers are excited when a major Halo game releases. It's great for the industry. Nobody other than hardcore games would know the name Metal Gear Solid or God of War. Probably not even Gran Turismo, either. But EVERYONE knows Halo, just like they know Mario.

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IRetrouk - 16 days 15 hours ago

are you on crack mate? nobody know gran turismo or god of war or metal gear? sorry loser but your wrong watch gt kill halo reaches numbers alone ur a joke m8

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MaximusPrime - 17 days 10 hours ago

you made PS3 fans laugh actually.

xbox 360 fans should be crying because:

lack of exclusive (finally you got another Halo game!)
lack of decent games
too many sequels
too many failing xbox 360s
still on multiple DVD
more delays.
paid $50 xbox live (rumored to increase to $100)
need to be gold member for facebook and other applications

Ps3 fans cheers because:

more new PS3 owners,
so many exclusives
better graphic,
bluray,
so many variety of genres, not just FPS,
more family friendly
better customer support
free online service
free internet browser
integrated WiFi
integrated battery for controllers

truthfully PS3 is cheaper than xbox 360

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Pirateogta - 17 days 6 hours ago

-The 360 has the exact same amount of AAA exclusives this year as the PS3. According to MetaCritic, both consoles have 3 AAA exclusives.

-The 360 has the exact same amount of AAA games, 6, as the PS3 this year, according to MetaCritic.

-Too many sequels? How is this something to cry about? Almost every AAA PS3 game this year is a sequel; Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, MLB 09, Street Fighter IV, FIFA Soccer 10...

-The 360's failure rate is at an all-time low. The most recently manufactured consoles have a failure rate as low as any other electronic device. If anything, the RROD is in the past.

-Still on multiple DVD? What is that supposed to mean? 95% of 360 games are on 1 disc.

-Delays of what? Every console has game delays.

-You pay $50 once and you don't even have to think about it again for a year. And if you don't want to pay it, you don't have to, so why would someone be crying over it? For that $4.00 a month, you get by far the best online service of this generation, with the best online community and the most features.

-This is the same complaint again. You already pointed out that you have to pay $50 a year.

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-There are more new 360s users every day as well. Last time I checked, the 360 didn't completely stop selling...

-The 360 has the exact same number of AAA exclusives this year as the PS3. Go check MetaCritic.

-Most multiplatform games have better graphics on the 360, while a select few PS3 exclusives may have better graphics than most 360 exclusives. Gameplay > Graphics.

-What about Blu-Ray? The PS3 has always had a Blu-Ray drive. This is nothing new to cheer about.

-No console has "just FPS's".

-In what way is the PS3 more family friendly and why would this be something to cheer about? The 360 has Family Game Night, if that's anything to mention...

-I believe that's an opinion, and I don't think Sony's customer support is any better than Microsoft's.

-Free online service =/= better online service.

-The internet browser is part of the online service. Why list it as a separate feature? And who would want to use the slow PSN internet browser when you could just get on your computer and use a real internet browser? How many PS3 owners don't own a computer?

-I'll give you WiFi.

-Who cares about batteries? This is something to cheer about?

-The 360's most expensive model is the same price as the PS3's cheapest model. So no, the PS3 is not cheaper than the 360. And don't start adding together all these optional features such as Blu-
ray, WiFi, HDD, Xbox LIVE Gold, and battery chargers to try to make the 360 look more expensive than the PS3. These are optional features. Not everyone needs or wants them.

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IRetrouk - 16 days 14 hours ago

again you are full of crap, the xbox still red rings, my red one just went the other day, plus i have had five white ones that bricked, red ring is here to stay but im not, xbox 360 and its fans can go jump off a cliff i cant believe how many faults ive had it with the sh!tty hardware. ive moved to the dark side jump out and move to the ps3, it only does everything.

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jashwin - 16 days 14 hours ago

@pirateogta

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jashwin - 16 days 14 hours ago

@pirateogta
I pity you...u have so much time on your hands to write such a beautiful response..Why do you have so much free time?Is it because your crapbox broke??OH SNAP!!

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Deadman64 - 17 days 7 hours ago

However you spin it Halo is the biggest success the video game world has seen in awhile.

:'(

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chrisulloa - 16 days 21 hours ago

LOL @ tapebox. Tamper tape makes a product bad rite?

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