17 Year Old's Halo Render Work Rivals Bungie's

thesummerofgeorge - 57 days 23 hours ago

This is pretty cool. It's not breaking news, but a story about a talented young fan, I don't see the problem.

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chaosatom - 57 days 23 hours ago

It means that Bungie needs to step it up a couple of notches.

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gaffyh - 57 days 23 hours ago

He's modeled them pretty well, everything needs textures really, because the clay render doesn't do the model justice imo. However, we need to see wireframes to see how many polys/tris each model is, to see if this quality of work is viable for console, and looks like too much polys to me.

My stuff is hundreds of thousands of polys sometimes, and it just would not be possible on console this gen. Maybe not even next gen.

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menoyou - 57 days 23 hours ago

Environments aren't much harder to do than these models, especially not the environments Bungie makes which look last gen. Bungie is just an amateur developer that's why even amateurs can rival their work.

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Hoolock - 57 days 22 hours ago

Im currently on a game design course and close to half the people on the course can create stuff that looks just as good as this. The art to been a good model and texture artist is the ability to get it to run in an engine.
Well done on the good work no doubt it is very nice but please people above me don't take this as a sign of bungie's inability to create great art as bungie have to work in engine.

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gaffyh - 57 days 22 hours ago

@1.5 - That's pretty much what I was trying to say as well. I agree with you. :)

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evrfighter - 57 days 21 hours ago

you guys need to get out of n4g more. If you've seen what the pc modding community can do this would be "meh"

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starvinbull - 57 days 21 hours ago

Nothing wrong with this. At 17 it'll be good practice for the lad who will no doubt go far with ease. Which major developer will snap him up in a few of years time I wonder

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PinkUni - 57 days 21 hours ago

have you guys even been on deviant art?

people make this kind of stuff all the time, and its usually the younger crowd in their late teens and early 20s

but then you have to remember that this person is also copying the halo style. designing your own weapons and actually making it so people don't think they look like crap is very hard to do, which is why so many people just go with the "military shooter" type games so they don't have to spend too much time on design.

you guys are giving this guy way too much credit

someone said "It means that Bungie needs to step it up a couple of notches." even as a joke thats kinda dumb

you're pretty much denying all of the work into technical programing
bungie has to do.

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jadenkorri - 57 days 20 hours ago

he will never get a job in the industry, he be lucky if he did, he may be talented, but modifying/copying known works is pointless, these models can be easily ripped off the disc. I have Zelda from twilight princess, all FFX characters and some FFX12, let alone you can just dl them off the net if you know were to look. I've loaded them into 3DS Max just to see them. If you ask any graphic/3D artist, not one will ever tell you he got a job copying other works, even if credit is given, the original author can sue your a$$. I graduated from a 3D course, it was a mix between game development and 3D animations. Anyone with time on there hands can model those weapons, but its those who have their own artistic ideas and create their own that gets those jobs, not someone who can model someone Else's work. This is a 17 year old kid, who probably hasn't learned about copyright laws when dealing with artistic works.

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Highwayman - 57 days 19 hours ago

Lets see you make any of that art.

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Tiberium - 57 days 17 hours ago

people need to chill a bit. He made these on a PC so it's obviously going to look better than on 5 year old hardware (360). No to mention using the aging halo 3 engine. I'm sure reach will be gorgeous though.

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2Spock - 57 days 15 hours ago

The kid has talent no doubt, but he is copying models already. Lets see him make a model on a strict deadline with major pressure and your job depends on it.

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PinkUni - 57 days 14 hours ago

thats a stupid response

that's like saying "lets see you bake a pie"
obviously since i cant make pies, people who make pies are geniuses

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RememberThe357 - 57 days 12 hours ago

The kid is seventeen, get off his back...

He'll do fine once he gets formal training under his belt. And to claim that he could get a job in the industry is ridiculous. Just becasue this is al that you have seen does not mean this is all that he has done.

I give the kid props, good job partner.

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MrAnonymous - 57 days 11 hours ago

i agree with 1.3, 1.5 and all the others that know what it takes to make games

sure, many ppl amature or not, with or without experience can eventually make a fanatistic looking model with a hell of a lot of polys, but as an experiences modeler with experience in game design, they no how to make the best looking model, using the least amount of polys to look as well as a high poly model

the thing that usually differs in the way of how good a model looks is not exactly how many polys it has, but what kind of texture is applied

you can make a very convincing crate by just using a box and applying a very convincing crate face texture and it would make you think that it had more than 6 polys

THAT is the difference between a normal modeler and a video game modeler

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IaMs12 - 57 days 2 hours ago

That awesome i wish i could do stuff like this. He should mod PC games that would be sweet.

I dont see why everybody is dissing Halo 3 graphics i think they are awesome, of course old but still look great. I still do think they need to up it on Reach and you know they will since they have a new engine.

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WenisWagon - 57 days 23 hours ago

Well for being 17 years old, in that sense it is good considering he has had no college experience in this field, but as gaming news yes there is nothing special about this.

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Pandamobile - 57 days 23 hours ago

Still, I was making Counter-Strike: Source weapons when I was 14, and that was a hell of a lot more involved than this. Not only did I have to make the models, I had to texture, animate, and get it back into the Source engine (which is no easy task), and there was no news about me on it.

Hmph.

I guess the Halo crowd is easily impressed.

Edit:

Lol at the disagrees.

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Eiffel - 57 days 23 hours ago

Seriously. At 17 he has some skill. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets hired for a major developer. I compared his with some of Bungies and his work is astounding.

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Pandamobile - 57 days 23 hours ago

Weapon modeling is one of the easiest things to make in a 3d application. If he re-made the Master Chief or an actual character, then I'd be impressed.

@Below

Yes, the kid's pretty good, but you guys are treating him like he's some child prodigy...

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bjornbear - 57 days 23 hours ago

You're awsum.

But please be humble and give credit where its due, this kid did a good job, don't be so damn arrogant.

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Eiffel - 57 days 22 hours ago

So many disagrees just for giving a kid props for his work. The amount of douchebags on this site is astounding. I wonder how many disagrees I'll get if I feel bad for a child dying.

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xTruthx - 57 days 22 hours ago

I made ut2004 maps when i was 16, wheres me medal :(

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Pandamobile - 57 days 21 hours ago

I know! The only reason this kid is getting recognition is because it has to do with Halo.

If it were any other game, he'd be nothing.

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Darkfocus - 57 days 21 hours ago

someone made an unreal tournament 3 master chief charcter model that looks at least twice as good as the actual game that's far more impressive then these weapon models http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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STK026 - 57 days 21 hours ago

here's the thing, like 1.3 and 1.5 said, he can make models, great. Now, are they viable for a game console?

I think it's weird for people to claim this guy can best or even rival Bungie when they have to make everything work with limited ressources (hardware-wise) when all you've seen of this guy's work are a few shots of weapon and vehicule models, untextured and rendered in an empty environment. Ask Bungie to do the same, and I'm pretty sure they can pull-off something even better, but it's pointless to do so if you can't even put it in a game that will run on your console.

Saying that this guy, who has talent I must admit, can "rival" Bungie because of a few pictures, would be similar to saying that CryTek are obviously a better developper than Naughty Dog since Crysis looks better than Uncharted 2; let's totally ignore the fact that Crysis requires more ressources than what the PS3 can offer and let's just go by the looks of both games. Indeed, that would be silly.

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Biggunz - 57 days 18 hours ago

while I can't do this I have friends who can.
There is nothing special about this and it shouldn't have been approved as news.

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beardpapa - 57 days 15 hours ago

If he wants to get hired into a game developing company, he'll need to work as a game tester and network with people. I remember reading an article on Joystiq, and the lead developer they interviewed said working in gaming is not just majoring in game design and applying for a job, most of it includes working at the very bottom, understanding what a game software company does, and networking to get your idea out there and let people know you have a desire to design games. Just because a person is good at creating models isn't good enough. He/she needs to know, admire, and understand the expression from Van Gogh's Starry Night, and not just the pretty looks of the stars and buildings in the yonder.

Edit: I actually have a friend who works as a game designer at SE (SE USA to be exact in el segundo CA), and he also had to network to actually be a part of the development team. He started out as a game tester making $13/hr about 6 yrs ago). He said it was boring since they make you play the same game all week long looking for bugs and commenting about the gameplay. You have to really enjoy playing games if you want to be a tester. But it's a place to start if you want to get into the biz.

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2Spock - 57 days 15 hours ago

Man your comments day in and day and day out is just really sad. You are full of yourself and you never add any importance to any article at all. I should have done this long ago, and hopefully people will strip your bubbles.

"User has been added to your ignore list"

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aGameDeveloper - 57 days 4 hours ago

Wouldn't the OP have posted a picture of one of the assets, rather than the image from Halo? The way it is now, you HAVE to click the link to see what's so special. If the picture had been one of the untextured weapons, I doubt there would have been much click-through or response to the story.

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ChozenWoan - 57 days 21 hours ago

I was thinking that he had created his own game engine from scratch or something like that. But modeling is one of the easiest parts of game development, and making impressive renders is easy to do with the right lighting setup in a 3D program since they use raycasting. Depending on the scenes complexity, one pic can take secs-hours just to render, vs a game engine that must render the whole scene 30-120 times a sec.

Also, how clean are the meshes of his models, as in is there any low z-depth or intersecting polygons. These can greatly effect the visual appeal of a game. Nothing more distracting than seeing a part of your model disappearing and reappearing while it's just standing still due to minuet z-buffer changes.

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maverick1191 - 57 days 22 hours ago

mate its not hard to do gun models i can do gun models on photoshop easy and i've only started to use photoshop for 3 weeks does that make me highly gifted? No.

Cyclindk hit the nail on the head with the term "talented" to be applied more sparingly its not impressive but it makes news because it has the word halo on it

talented is people like 4 year old piano prodigies but to do what this guy has done its not something to call him gifted over

bubbles for the post cyclindk completely agree with what you said

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cyclindk - 57 days 22 hours ago

Right, because you know me well enough to start making fanboy assumptions... I did my avatar the way I did because I happened to find a picture that fit.

I told my nitwit friend who just discovered 3d rendering software that his dreams of becoming a developer are far-fethched if he thinks this is all there is to making games... he's got an excuse though, he was home-schooled.

Point is, everyone and there mother is doing this these days.. now to further negate your fanboy bull I was thoroughly impressed by the sheer scope and choreography of the Master Chief (Halo) versus Samus (Metroid) video which featured amazing animation skills, which by all accounts is a much more time consuming endeavor.

Video is kind of old, but you can find it on GT and Youtube

Edit: here it is,

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And feel free to apologize if you care to admit that you overreacted which is somewhat understandable given the climate in the Con War as of late.

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jav0918 - 57 days 20 hours ago

I'm no fanboy and I still agree with the people that don't want to give him cred. Anyone can do this.

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Pandamobile - 57 days 21 hours ago

I'm not trying to sound like a douche, but the ONLY reason you're getting the kind of attention you are is because you modeled Halo weapons.

I know younger people that have done way more and have gotten little to no recognition.

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evrfighter - 57 days 21 hours ago

I'm with Panda on this one. Stuff like this has been done by 12+ year olds in the cs/unreal/quake communities for many many years. I'm not talking about just render's either.

I also don't want to sound like a douche but don't let this article get to you. A ps3 fanboy wanted to make Bungie look bad by putting up this article or like Panda said the word Halo is making it famous. Probably the ladder. Well there's also the fact that people here @ n4g don't even know that modding communities exist.

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albert_275 - 57 days 20 hours ago

Or start with a plane.

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Saaking - 57 days 23 hours ago

The 360 is so inferior, even a caveman can code for it.

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aks6351 - 57 days 23 hours ago

lol, you funny guy

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So Easy I Can Do It - 57 days 23 hours ago

that was MY line!

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na2ru1 - 57 days 16 hours ago

Reading from a comment on the internet.

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Ninjamonkey - 57 days 21 hours ago

Im sorry, its fine not to like the 360 if thats your thing, but bashing bungie is just not right...

When bungie started reating halo, MS saw it and realised it could be huge, thats why they very quickly bought up the rights to halo as soon as possible.

When it came out on consoles it was just unmatched. I remember playing it round a friends house and it was just incredible, timesplitters, Call of duty, nothing compared.

Games dont sell millions, break records and create huge mpacts in the gaming community on marketing alone, the game has to be truly special.

Halo 1 was a breakthrough for consoles, and multiplayer gaming on them.

And i dont care about the disagrees, becuase its fact that the majourity of gamers will agree with me, fanboy or not.

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Deadman64 - 57 days 21 hours ago

lol yet no game rivals the quality of their games' menu's, lobbys, party system, or matchmaking. Even their loading screens are awesome

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MrChow666 - 57 days 19 hours ago

ninjamonkey, dont waste your time with the TROLL

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likedamaster - 57 days 18 hours ago

Halo's success is well deserved. This is not Bungie's only successful title.

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Ninjamonkey - 57 days 21 hours ago

Best selling game?

GTA4: British

Oh yeah, were awesome =P

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aks6351 - 57 days 22 hours ago

everyones a funny guy on n4g

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Shadow Haze501 - 57 days 22 hours ago

Hmmm. Let me guess. Your Turn 10. Mart??

Oh no your coreywebb. lol

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kavka3 - 57 days 22 hours ago

He works for Microsoft

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likedamaster - 57 days 18 hours ago

LOL... They were pretty horrible.

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