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Ahmad Dajani from vgarabia.com said "The first reason is the development cost of shenmue was 70 million dollars as it was mentioned by yu suzuki, and if he want to make the game on Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 or the Wii it will cost more than that and it will be a very risky decision for Sega".
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immortal84
- 143 days 23 hours ago
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1 - i hope we will see shenmue 3
And to see how this incredible saga will end.
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Gamer_Politics
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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man i hope we finally end this series but doubt it because the Shenmue series didnt really do good saleswise...:(
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mastiffchild
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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I don't think we fans of the series ever really got just how few of us played the games tbh. I'm pretty surprised we even got number two after what happened with the first and I think Sega were bitten way too hard to risk it again-prolly reminds many people there of killing them as a console maker too!
Not so sure that it would have to be as relatively expensive these days with sand boxes all the rage as surely there has to be some shortcuts they might use?Otherwise, given the cost of Shenmue2 games as vast as GTA4 would be amazingly prohibitive costs wise, no?
Whatever, we don't look like even getting Yakuza3 in the west let alone Shenmue3 any time soon.
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immortal84
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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1.3 - @ mastiffchild
average games now cost between 10-20 million dollars, and gta4 development cost more than 100 million dollars, so sega must to make sure the project will make some profit.
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iamtehpwn
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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1.4 - We CAN get it, this article is retarded and I'll explain why ;P
Shenmue invested in completely new technology and had Graphics beyond anything in neighboring existence at the time.
Shenmue 3's technology however, would require a majority of technology already available and made main stream by developers professional and Independent alike.
The original however, featured voice sinking and a dynamic world in complete 3d, these features at the time, Were very mind blowing and new.
Shenmue 3 is more of a question of when then if.
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Gamer_Politics
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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yeah thats true all that tech is now old and very cheap so Sega could bring us Shenmue 3 after all....
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RememberThe357
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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1.6 - They should have put Shenmue 2 on the PS2
It would have sold much better.
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immortal84
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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1.7 - @ iamtehpwn
gta 4 used a new technology (rage engine) and the game delayed multiple times and it cost rockstar games a lot of money.
yu suzuki is a perfectionist and he will not use a middle ware engine to power shenmue. would you buy shenmue if they make it using unreal engine 3?
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iamtehpwn
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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1.8 - @immortal84
LOL. Good point. However, I do not believe it would cost as much to produce a new Shenmue, still though.
While GTA4 did use a lot of new technology and money to be spent excessively, Shenmue 3 still shouldn't cost $70 million like it did at the time.
To be honest, Budget is all relative to the time distribution and Software Libraries licensed, team size. So If Suzukiさん keeps this in mind, it can all be done.
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Greywulf
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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I doubt they could pull off much better than Uncharted2/Killzone2/MGS4/Last Guardian/GT5..I mean theres a trend where developers go to really exercise their technical talent. The engines are already in place, and Uncharted2 is open source. The networks are there to cut down on development costs.
3 choices:
1. They can go to Sony and get in their dev chain, make a phenomenal never before seen title.
2. They can go to Microsoft learn from Remedy how to make a sandbox....uh nev.. they can use a middleware engine.
3. Multiplatform UnrealEngine/mehengine something and just get sales.. but why bother.. just make a Wii Game and sell more than it would have at less cost.
I doubt shenmue would sell in a world of 150 dollar MW2 special edition bags.. maybe they could just make a movie?
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IDemonstalkerXI
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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If they can do Gangstermue 3(Yakuza 3) they can do Shenmue 3.
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jivah
- 143 days 19 hours ago
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srry man but dat was a bad joke...Gangstermue3? seriously?
/target /yuck
damnit y wont mah dk do a /yuck emote
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- 143 days 19 hours ago
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The PS3 version should come as a trilogy on the same disc and hands down that thing will sell!
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Seferoth75
- 143 days 19 hours ago
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Hands down it will sell? Sure but not enough to make any money. I mean you are talking about a console with a lower attach rate than Wii and the lowest software sales of ANY current system on the market. Their best bet is to stay far away from PS3.
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DaTruth
- 143 days 17 hours ago
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1.14 - @above^^^
Your avatar looks like your comment!
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teraclusterx
- 143 days 14 hours ago
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1.15 - A very Touchy Subject to me near and dear to my Diamond Chip Heart
The thing is Yu Suzuki Has retired and all the AM Division Talent has left SEGA!!!!!!!!!!
Alot actually work for Sony First Parties Devs!!!!
THEIR is no inhouse Talent left at Sega!!! NONE!!! The arcade division WOW is barely hangin in there!!!but they are dwindling as well.
The Last Great Shenmue quality Games "SEGA" made with Next Gen Tech was RACE TV,HOTD 4 ,VF5!!! (on Ps3 GPU technology)Thats ALL!
NOW recent crappy handheld quality sh!t you play on the Wii, and recent games labeled "Sega" are actually third party devs that Sega Publishes!!! Yes Sonic, HOTD Wii, and crappy other games are not really Sega Devs!!!!!!!!
Original SEGA Shenmue Talent is done, gone, tired ,fled!!!
Sega Blew it with 32x,CD,Saturn,and now are worthless!!!!!
I own all these systems BTW!!
THIS IS THE REAL TRUTH!!!!
But yes it would cost probably 150 million plus to make a worthy Shenmue3 on the PS3 , But PS3 needs about 1 GB of Vram to do justice to Shenmue and of course, The time it would take to make a Engine of this caliber would be 3-4 years!!! not good and PLUS Shenmue was Flippin Boring!!! I played it alot and had all the games the soundtrack the movie!!
It needs one thing to compete with Metal Gear and Halo,gears,Final Fantasy,& that was action!!! Some weapons training and a little stealth and THis game would of been an amazing EPIC Story! that Stole our lives away!,, but it turned out to be a boring romp but it was revolutionary in the Technology world and play mechanics world but did not have a fallowing cause it was BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yu Suzuki was a Panzi Race car lover.He didn't want weapons in this game But SEGA needs to put a team behind it to step it up to another level!!!!
Some Blood some Gore some Stealth missions some killing!!!Metal Gear or GTA,could never compete with Shenmue if this were the case!!!!
Dreamcast Shenmue is still a benchmark for graphics!!!The massive breathing detailed worlds were phenomenal On screen characters!!! Animation QTE,Interaction ,list goes on!!!!
I can sit here and rant about how on the PS3 with VF5 level graphics Shenmue could destroy Metal gear but why!!???never will happen!!!
Yu has retired Sega is no More!!!!!!
LEAVE SHENMUE IN THE GRAVE ALREADY AND SAME WITH SEGA!!!!R.I.P!!
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Roper316
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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i'm not to happy with Sega right now so I could careless about them or anything they have to say. Maybe they should put this on the PSP to aholes!!!
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- 143 days 22 hours ago
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poor poor business decisions. Because of them I'll never be able to fully finish the fight and avenge my fathers death (in the game that is)
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biloz
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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Man u remind me of Shenmue...it was awesome but we really wanted to know the end of the story and everything - at that time - were leading to a very (coming soon) Shenmue 3 but suddenly it disappeared !!
i think u should add a 4th reason which is (( its already late for sega to do so )) if they wanted to take this move they should had do it long time ago :(
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- 143 days 22 hours ago
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If they gonna make Shennmue 3,they should make it a PS3 exclusive
because the PS3 would allow them to add tons of stuff.
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- 143 days 21 hours ago
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I guess you didn't read that the original cost was $70mil for development and that a next gen version would cost a lot more. So making it a PS3 exclusive would be very risky financially.
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- 143 days 22 hours ago
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6 - make Shenmue on PSP then!
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RememberThe357
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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6.1 - Thats a great Idea!
Pull a Valkyria Chronicles on us. They could also re-release the first two on the PSN.
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erathaol
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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6.2 - That would be great
I wouldn't mind buying Shenmue 1 & 2 off the PSN.
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mastiffchild
- 143 days 20 hours ago
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Looking at the depth and quality of MGS:PW's trailer that might be a decent idea-but with the perfectionist nature of the games history would "settling" for a handheld to finish the trilogy sit very well?
However, they could make an AMAZING PSP game for much less cash than they prolly could a full size PS3/360/Wii version and it would possibly be easier to make the game stand out in handheld company rather than on PS36Wii as well. I don't imagine many series fans would want it to be a DS or PSP game , though, after seeing the reaction to VC2 going to PSP!
I think Sega would love to finish the series as it's been a labour of love and despite what it caused it's still one of the most frequently begged for games anywhere- but right now I doubt we're much nearer to a situation where it will happen! Would a portable Shenmue 3 do it for anyone? If they go that way surely it would be wise to release 1 and 2 as PSP downloadables to build the fanbase for the game/series(be good in general to raise awareness of the games) if there's ever going to be that final effort, no?
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killer_pwned89
- 143 days 22 hours ago
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I really dont care what it comes out on just not the wii or ds please lol. But after thinking about it the wii could possibley be fun. But not the ds this game is so widely wanted we will get it sometime.
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- 143 days 22 hours ago
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Port Shenmue 1 and 2 to the PS3/360 as a 2in1 game and I bet Sega will easily rake in enough profit to pay for Shenmue 3.
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Gamer_Politics
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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Great idea..
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Godmars290
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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9 - "Shenmue 3 will not work on current generation of consoles"
So where's the PC version...?
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- 143 days 21 hours ago
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I just don't get it why don't Sega just remake Shenmue 1 and Shenmue 2 on the ps3 and 360 with better voice acting also improvement on the graphics would help, maybe change the gameplay wise Sega would get a better profit out of this if they just remade the game.
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LCF
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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Well I know for a fact it's not a storage issue. The PS3 is capable of playing the 400 gig Blu-ray disc. Tho the 400 is not commercially viable at the moment.
Sega has been financially hurting since the release of the Saturn. It's difficult for Sega to doing anything close to this alone. I'm hope'in Bayonetta will be Sega's sleeper hit like Devil May Cry was for Capcom back in the PS2 days. The only other game I can think of the was really good for Sega's image was Valkyria Chronicles(I could be mistaken there might be others this gen) thats the only one that comes to mind. But their mascot never really recovered after Sonic Adventures on the DC. No other publisher might not want to risk going on this endeavor with Sega.
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- 143 days 21 hours ago
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12 - Shenmue Online??
I loved shenmue absolutely mindblowing at the time...it showed us the future...i still have the original Shenmue1&2 and still play them from time to time, but what happend with Shenmue online??? that seemed to be the ideal PC project for shenmue that SEGA could port to XBL/PSN now...is it shelved somewhere? btw awesome movie to see the real place where shemue took place thx for that!
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Fan Tastic
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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13 - Shenmue 1 and 2 are two of the biggest wastes of resources in gaming history
Sega please don't make yet a third mistake and make Shenmue 3.. Make a good game instead.
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- 143 days 21 hours ago
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14 - WE NEED SHENMUE 3
IT WOULD SELL AND BE GOOD
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Luna Valhalla
- 143 days 20 hours ago
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No it wouldn't, because the first two games didn't sell.
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Yakuza does very well for sega in Japan (already on the third yakuza for ps3 in such a short time) perhaps they could sneak shenmue 3 in as a spin off under the yakuza name lol.
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Apocalypse Shadow
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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16 - doubt we will ever see it.
shenmue was genre leading at the time.this game and omicron:the nomad sould did open world gaming before gta3 even released.
and a lot of yu's ideas have been stolen for other games.like QTE.even though QTE was only a small part of shenmue.
since yu retired and sega hasn't done anything good for their awsome back catalog,it's all wishful thinking.
i used to want a virtua fighter:shenmue addition.where you could replace all the characters with characters from shenmue1,2.at least give gamers the fights and a chance to go up against lan di.even put story inbetween when characters meet before fighting.
but that won't happen either.if it wasn't for skies/phantasy star/valkarie team or clover studios/platinum games making games for sega,sega would have died a long time ago.most of their games suck nowadays.they used to be in my top five japanese companies.
nintendo,sega,capcom,namco,ko nami.now,they are not even in the top ten.or even twenty.except when i'm playing their old school games.
apocalypse..............at least my dreamcast still works........
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- 143 days 20 hours ago
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Mine died the othr week, damn sad that:( Never had a oroblem with it til now and it's just doing nothing at all so I have no clue what's up with it!
No power, no discs spinning-just silent stillness! Pretty gutted as it goes.
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*cough* lazy *cough*
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TheProfessional
- 143 days 19 hours ago
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Both Shenmues are the definition of cinematic, it would be a mistake to make 3 on PSP only. (Unless its the only way we'll ever play it)
I know there was originally supposed to be something like 17 chapters of Shenmue, but Sega really just needs to go Rome status and condense all of the story into the third game. Then we can finally get some closure.
I just hope Yakuza 3 comes to the States before anything, the game is already made just translate it already! A great looking PS3 exclusive action title with solid gameplay and a good story will always sell. If Sony's risking millions on Heavy Rain they need to step up and put money into Yakuza 3.
I'll never understand why Sony cancelled Getaway 3 and Eight Days and refuses to localize Yakuza while a glorified cutscene like Heavy Rain is still in development.
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samura
- 143 days 19 hours ago
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19 - THE GAME COST????
my mistake
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
The cost was retarded.
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- 143 days 16 hours ago
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even though we can't see Shenmue 3, I want Shenmue 1 & 2 on XBox Live/PSN.
Or Shenmue 1 & 2 in HD!
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21 - Lazy
Is it just me or are some of the makers of games, just are to lazy to make a good game? the last Sonic games haven't came close to Sonic Adventure and Shenmue was almost a 2 was pretty nice as well. But it seems they try to many new idea's a not listen to fans (Sonic games and NFS games) or they just don't feel like it.
SEGA you are doing so well on games alone an I don't see how anyway them or anyone that works with them thinks that they can't maker this games, so far besides the crappy Sonic titles, Sega has put out some great titles an they got more coming.
Well I hope to see Shenmue 3 for this gen or they would have to call it "ShenWho 3"
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I think they could make it.They should just use the Yakuza 3 engine on the PS3 and make it for the current consoles
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- 143 days 22 hours ago
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shenmue in era of dreamcast not reached in 1 million of sales imo... :/
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Soda Popinsky
- 143 days 21 hours ago
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A shame really. Such great games.
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More than 70 million bucks? What the hell are you planning on throwing into that game?
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Sega would lose more money making it ps3 exclusive.....
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Shenmue was on the same graphical level of games like Crysis when it was released. There was nothing like it at the time. It was groundbreaking both graphics as well as gameplaywise. The Yakuza 3 engine wouldn't cut it.
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Putting a 70 million dollar game on PS3 would be suicide.
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At least the PS3 is not holding it back in terms of quality. The 360 version would end up gimping the whole series because of it's technical limitations. They already had to cut the open world from Alan Wake.
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I wonder why didn't Sega make it on the PS2 instead of the xbox.
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- 143 days 21 hours ago
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because MS brought the rights for the Shenmue 2 american release
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Microsoft killed Shenmue just like their first party devs. I guess that's what happens when you put a game on a Microsoft console.
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Could this happen to Final Fantasy on 360 one day.
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I love how you guys defend each other... you guys still don't realize that you are living in the N4G world of fanboyism.
This is very simple PS3 own Japan and Xbox own America and Europe so why would sega release Shenmue 3 PS3 exclusive when they will loose alot of money by doing that its make no sense use the logic. If this game came out in the future it will be a 360 Exclusive since they don't want to loose money or a Wii exclusive because Wii is owning America, Japan, an Europe but it will not be a next gen game.
Yes it was true that Microsoft killed Shenmue 2 in the original xbox but that's my point on all this at that gen the PS2 was killing the original xbox and that's why shenmue 3 will came out on the 360 or the wii
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