No Sex In games Please - We Are American

green - 266 days 17 hours ago

In Europe it's actually the opposite.They have a more open mind towards sex but don't tolerate violence the way Americans do.

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TOO PAWNED - 266 days 17 hours ago

"green
Yup exactly. You can find ton of movies in Europe that are based around sex, and usually it includes very young boy and through what he goes.
Like movie "Malena" http://www.imdb.com/title/t...
Sure that movie was released in USA but sex scenes were removed lol.

I guess in USA as long as you don't show sex scene you are fine, you can have ppl eat brains (hanibal movies) or something like chainsaw massacre, but sex? O hell no, that is bad for your mind lol.

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Hiruma Youchi - 266 days 17 hours ago

lol . true , true

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green - 266 days 17 hours ago

SO true.I watched Maleena 3 years ago and it is a very good movie and one that shows Monicca Belluci acting talents.But no no no...That movie will be crucified in America especially Fox News.

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TheTwelve - 266 days 15 hours ago

Green, you're EXACTLY right.

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Ju - 266 days 15 hours ago

Guess, if an American spends his/her vacation on a beach on an island in Greece, they might think they are in a porn movie.

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Venomish - 266 days 15 hours ago

basically you can go yourself and have sex, why watch it, it should be kept only between the two people having sex. I dont think most of you guys want to film yourselves having sex and put it on the internet

on the other hand you cant just go killing people around, this is why we need movies and games like that, at least in my opinion

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SupaPlaya - 266 days 14 hours ago

I was there 12 years ago, it is beautiful (the little white houses, the clear water - you can see the sea urchins at the sea floor), both the scenery and the women. Too bad I was a teenager at the time, I'll probably have more fun sight-seeing now than before.

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tplarkin7 - 266 days 12 hours ago

Video game violence: Nobody is hurt when violence is portrayed. The player will likely sympathize with the one being hurt.

Video game nudity: Seeing nudity out of context of normal life tempts the player to seek it in real life.

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Chris399 - 266 days 7 hours ago

"Violence is illustration. Sex is temptation.
Video game violence: Nobody is hurt when violence is portrayed. The player will likely sympathize with the one being hurt."

Sorry, but your rationale is clouded. People will likely sympathize with the one being hurt? Do you honestly think that the millions of players gunning down people in GTA or COD4 stop to take a moment of silence or make a prayer for each body that piles up at their feet?

"Video game nudity: Seeing nudity out of context of normal life tempts the player to seek it in real life."

Ludicrous, and the same methodology can easily be applied to violence.

The Earth is round btw. And your thinking is outdated.

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Heldrasil - 266 days 16 hours ago

You got it all wrong: It's kill first then shag...that's how we American's do it. Go south to Mexico and they like the donkey shows, but go north and I don't think the Canadians even have sex..especially those French Canadians. j/k

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djpolofish - 266 days 15 hours ago

So penetrating a woman with a CG knife good

penetrating a woman with a CG penis bad???!?!?!?

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Foxgod - 266 days 15 hours ago

violence happens in the streets.
sex happens in private, its not common for people to have sex in the open, when we agree with someone to have sex, we always get to a private place.

Violence however, occurs most of the time with bystanders being around.

So yes, sex in a game is pointless.
Porn is highly unrealistic compared to actual love making, and videogames shouldnt be turned into porno.

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MovieScouse007 - 266 days 15 hours ago

Have you never seen a line of prostitutes on the street of any major, or minor for that matter, city?
Have you never seen a streaker at a sports event?
Did you not attend any Spring Break events, where women are paid in beads for a flash?
Are you a monk?
Are you human?
Do you know what that flacid object between your legs is even for?

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Foxgod - 266 days 15 hours ago

I was born and raised in Amsterdam, i know more then enough that in the street your chance of encounters with violence and drugs is about 90 %.

While sex covers only 10%, you dont see people shagging everywhere, you do constantly see people using drugs and fighting.

If it was the other way around, then games would be full of sex right now, and be rated R if it contained violence.
Its all about reflecting our society, and its value's.

If you fail to understand that, then your <25.

@below
Yes that Amsterdam, there are a bunch of streets where woman are sitting behind windows, however because of our human nature, you dont intend to take children there, you rather leave them at home.

Problem is violence is in everybody, even in children, so its impossible to shield them from violence, thats why violence is generally more accepted then sex.
But hey, if you think its OK to take a kid into a street full of half naked woman, suit yourself, here its considered sick.

@even lower,
No, i am not saying its ok t hat people get robbed, i am merely stating the way it goes, and what human nature is like.

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MovieScouse007 - 266 days 15 hours ago

You mean the same Amsterdam where women sit in windows selling sex on the street?
And you still want to argue that sex is private?

CHILDREN!
When the f@*~ did children creep into this conversation? We were talking about games.
I would never allow a child to play GTA IV but as an adult (over 25 you patronising fool) I feel that the game has been hamstrung by puritans. The whole argument is that sex is NOT worse than violence but that rather violence is worse than sex?
Violence should never be accepted with a shrug in the wider world. But games are a fiction, an alternate world where we can exorcise, to use a religious metaphor just for you, our frustrations and inner anger as well as exercise our lateral thinking and pretend to be in the fantasy worlds of our choice. Notice the use of the word choice. All games are rated and reviewed, chances are if there is any sexual content in a game it will be discussed in the various reviews that every game is subject to, so you can make the CHOICE not to buy it if it offends your sensibilities. But do not impose your personal impossible morality on the world. Nobody has the right to say what I can or cannot watch, play or listen to. I live in the UK where we truly have freedom and where our opinion won't result in us getting chased out of town at the end of a shotgun, more violence!

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Ju - 266 days 15 hours ago

"violence happens in the streets.
sex happens in private"

Best quote ever. So, you are saying, its OK, if someone gets robbed on the streets, or raped, or murdered. Because this all happens in public. Right ? But people have sex in private. Didn't know that all criminals are show offs.

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No Way - 266 days 14 hours ago

"Problem is violence is in everybody, even in children, so its impossible to shield them from violence, thats why violence is generally more accepted then sex." Ha. Okay.

And, everybody will experience sex at one point or another.. even children..

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Venomish - 266 days 13 hours ago

from people responses (the disagrees), we can conclude that there many who just want to watch some sex.
if you want sex watch porn
if you want violence/blood play vidoegames/watch movies

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Foxgod - 266 days 15 hours ago

Well, its human nature.
In the prehistoric we smashed someone's skull in, in public, then we dragged the female back to our cave.
We didnt ravage the female on the same spot we smashed the other dude his skull in.
Instead humans went to a private spot after the violence.

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Foxgod - 266 days 15 hours ago

Look at my comment just above, you just fail at understanding human nature.

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Foxgod - 266 days 15 hours ago

When your a child, wandering in the streets, what is more common for you to witness visually

A- Violence (people having a fight etch)
B- Sex (People having sex in public?)

Which do you think happens more often, A or B ?

The reason why stuff with sex is rated R, is because of human nature, we love to openly expose our violent behavior, but we dont like to show lovemaking in public, as it can cause you to get embarrassed.

@below,
Again, i am not implying anything, i am stating the way it goes, you can tell your kids violence is wrong, it wont prevent them from getting in touch with it.
However you can prevent them from getting in touch with sex too early, as sex isnt everywhere, violence however is, and thats why violence is generally more accepted.
Everybody experienced it from day 1.

@below
Kissing has nothing to do with sex.
Kissing has to do with romance, and romance origins from the renaissance, look it up if you will.

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djpolofish - 266 days 15 hours ago

well foxgod your a creepy guy, I hope your world and the real one never meet where violence is shrugged off and sex is deemed evil

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MovieScouse007 - 266 days 15 hours ago

Some would call kissing sex, it used to be referred to as lovemaking!
I've seen 4 separate couples snogging so far today, 16:15 GMT!
This is the first step in any relationship. The first step to the EVIL disgusting vile sex that Foxgod so clearly hates!

Foxgod, hmm would that user name indicate that you a member of the god squad, a bible bashing hysteric sneakily spying on us innocent gamers?

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Ju - 266 days 15 hours ago

Man, Fox, in what neighborhood are you living? Are you saying, I should tell my kids, when they see violence in the streets "Go, get used to it. It happens.". Is that what you are trying to imply ? Not saying, I would tell my kids "Go, look they got sex on the street. Get used to it". That's just not the case. But even moving these two things close, is, uhm, retarded.

Just because one can develop a common sense in regards to sex and nudity (we are all naked without our cloth on, you know), doesn't mean, people go out and will have random sex in public places. Does anyone even know what "common sense" and "normal" means in a world which only sees black and white any more...wondering. (Just because you have a beer doesn't make you an alcoholic, either).

Edit: Fox, I disagree, that "because violence is everywhere" its accepted. Its made available thru media. It wasn't always that way. You would want to protect your children to be exposed to violence more then they are exposed to sex, no ? I mean, your argumentation leads to justifications why now movies rated PG can contain violence. Or why we get flooded with news showing warzones with dead bodies. Yes, I agree, we get exposed to those way more then in the past. And I think this is wrong. But at the same time, the outcry is fundamental, if you can see a nibble on public TV. But, you know, at the same time, this is perfectly OK, as long as you pay for TV (HBO, anyone ?).

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Bazookajoe_83 - 266 days 14 hours ago

What is more traumatic for a child to see

A- A murder
B- A sex act

You say violence like it is only fistfighting, we all now that the violence we see in videogames is way beyond that. But then again the child shouldnt be able to play it if its rated M.

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green - 266 days 14 hours ago

sorry but i disagree with you.Sex is a natural part of life.The very fabric of human existence and evolution is based on sex.If portrayed well, sex is a beautiful thing and bioware pulled it off subtly and beautifully in Mass effect.But guess what? it still got called out by Mass Effect.

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SupaPlaya - 266 days 14 hours ago

Nicely put.

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Dragonopolis - 266 days 10 hours ago

Don't group America together in one large moral belief DJ. Yes its true that Neo-Religious-Conservatives have suppressed our freedom of expression but don't go grouping me with the idiots that have controlled this country for years. Violence is never better than sex and sex can be a Healthy rewarding experience - done right.

Sex is just as much a Human trait as our supposedly violent 'nature'. I for one would rather my children be accidentally exposed to a Human trait that can have a possible positive outcome like sex, if done appropriately, than Violence which never has a positive outcome even if the reasons can be justified as appropriate (like defending your self in war or from a crime).

Often times, Nudity gets grouped with Sex and religious conservatives try to ban both. Just make it clear that Nudity is not Sex and shouldn't be lumped together. Showing a breast, butt, or penus is not bad, and men and women have been peering at their own ever since they realize they had them. It's not the end of the world if they find out the opposite sex has different body parts depicting what sexual orientation they are.

However, sex is considered a private act and should be used in discretion. I don't support games like GTA IV where senseless violence is possible or a Porno game where meaningless sex is controlled by the user/gamer but when we start to suppress people's freedoms and start to impose our own set of morals on others that is when it becomes wrong. I know what my children watch and play. I can control what they play and watch and teach them what " I " believe is right for my children and hope the lessons taught take hold when they become old enough to make those decisions on their own.

Violence is an unhealth human trait that needs to be completely removed from this world - the world would keep marching on. However, if you completely remove Sex from the picture the Human Race would eventually lead to distinction. This is very basic comparison but it gets the point across.

It is sad that not all, but some Americans, truly believe that Nudity leads to Unhealthy Sexual lifestyle which falsely leads these people to believe that all Nudist must be Shagging each other but thats not the case. Its also sad that Americans can't openly talk about one of the most wonderful parts of being human without being sensored or shunned which I hope doesn't happen here.

Banning freedom of expression from video games is wrong but it should be carefully portrayed. Sex should be allowed to a point as long as it is used with discretion. Nudity doesn't necessarilly lead to Sex, but again, to respect the rights of others it should be used with discretion. When used, the contents of the game should be well documented and advertise so parents can be informed when making decisions when purchasing. This goes for Violence as well. Senseless violence is not healthy and shouldn't be allowed in a game but Violence is a part of human nature and therefore the story should be told whether through fiction or fact.

It is ultimately the Parents responsibility to teach their children what is right and wrong and leave moral judgment out of the hands of governments.

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Ju - 266 days 15 hours ago

The land of the free... as long as you can afford a lawyer.

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Nuri - 266 days 14 hours ago

This land was near free, freedom was just a myth pretty much. Can barely even see kissing, hugging, and cuddling much anymore. Saw a play where that had a lot of emphasis on it and it was apparently it was not suited for little kids.

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djpolofish - 266 days 15 hours ago

Its about game content and if murder (a natural thing for a psycho) is acceptable in games then sex (a natural act for everyone) shouldn't make anyone bat an eyelid.

If you think otherwise you should seek therapy as you have some worrying traits

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michellejbuss - 266 days 14 hours ago

I am glad you agree with me, child. I do so like being old :-)

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SupaPlaya - 266 days 14 hours ago

First thing first, I agree with your points, but perhaps you can get your points across without the name calling (comment such as dum# $uck).

If michellejbuss here is older than us, I find the your comment disrespectful.

I didn't disagree btw.

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JustinSaneV2 - 265 days 15 hours ago

You can voice your opinion but please be respectful about it.

Reported.

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djpolofish - 266 days 14 hours ago

enough creepy man! (XLiveGamer)

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Andras84 - 266 days 14 hours ago

I don't know who took my bubble but screw you :D

Anyways. to XLiveGamer:

I'm not really talking about porn but you have to know something. Sex is a natural part of life wich is a taboo topic on the west but not on the East. Interesting huh?

Anyways I don't know what does more damage showing a sex secen in a game that's M rated or showing how people shoot and kill each other.
Both are animated and not real but regardless wich do you think is less violant?

My personal opinion is that sex is fine in videogames on a level...I'm not talking about straight out porn but a sex sceen in a videogame like in a movie is ok. Almost every single move has a sex sceen nowdays anyway. Does it bother you? It sure doesn't bother me. Insted of being prude we should be open to this and if we wanna do something with videogames really than we should stop the repetition that is going on now...we should stop devs from only careing about online and make them create a great epic story for single player campain. Sex is not a problem with videogames at all.

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Bazookajoe_83 - 266 days 14 hours ago

Who said anything about porno movies?

Sex could add to the storytelling, enhance the realism and to express feelings. You know, like it´s used in movies.

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Pennywise - 266 days 17 hours ago

wow. Some people should go outside more to experience life.

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Graphics Whore - 266 days 15 hours ago

It's alright, he's like that one dude says, he enjoys paying to use his internet twice, so he's naturally bitter.

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