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Sony's Secret Weapon

There has recently been a lot of hype surrounding Sony's upcoming Sci-Fi Shooter titled, Killzone 2. Here's what I think of the situation. Knowing that ALL EYES are going to be looking at Killzone this February, it will either MAKE, or BREAK the game. Heck, I've already pre-ordered and paid off my copy for Killzone 2! But that's just me. From what I've been reading lately, some people are worried whether or not it will be worth the long wait. From what we here, at TGO have seen, it looks like it's definitively going to deliver.
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Published: 338 days ago | Article | PlayStation 3 | Gaming
 
 

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chaosatom - 338 days 1 hour ago
1 - Solid graphics and gameplay
= Win. AAA.

The sells will be good, but idk how good. That's depends on ADs. But as Long as the game is Good, I think it will do quite well and hopefully sells more on mouth to mouth bases from other gamers.
1.1 -GametimeUK- | 337 days 23 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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computer - 337 days 23 hours ago
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Graphics and gameplay I already know from first-hand experience are both amazing. The only thing I have yet to experience is the story, which I hope isn't as short as the rumors say (8 hours?).
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BulletToothtony - 337 days 23 hours ago
1.3 - hey gametime did you really play killzone 1 i really enjoyed it.. and that's after buying the ps3
it wasn't incredible but it was a decent game.. or are you just saying that because of the media saying so even thou they never played the game..

if you played it then tell me how were they able to finally conquer the helghast.. quick easy question that you would know if you played the game.

If you didn't then shut up.
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getupahh - 337 days 20 hours ago
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IDemonstalkerXI - 337 days 20 hours ago
1.5 - Sony's weapon of mass dumpage
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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getupahh - 337 days 20 hours ago
1.6 - LMFAO IDemonstalkerXI
WTF was Sony thinking with that advert?
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IDemonstalkerXI - 337 days 20 hours ago
1.7 - Sony knows
secretly, every man wants to watch a proper lady drop 1.
1.8 theKiller | 337 days 16 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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AAACE5 - 337 days 12 hours ago
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After finding out more about Killzone 2, I think it will be a great game, and could move some Ps3 units as well once people get to see KZ 2 in action. But reviews do play a large role in this game catching on like a wildfire for some people!

It might just be the right time for me to pick up a Ps3 now, since my 360 just died on me, and i'll have to wait a month to get it back.
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Karum - 337 days 10 hours ago
1.10 - computer
There was an article here not long ago with Guerilla Games saying the SP campaign was a good 10 hours long.
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chaosatom - 337 days 22 hours ago
2.1 - Do u have a better quality than youtube to Download?
p.s Has that been your comment for the last 2 weeks? XD

oh wait, found some awesome quality video
http://www.videogamer.com/v...
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z-hayden - 337 days 22 hours ago
2.2 -
Gametrailers has the best quality vids IMO
2.3 -GametimeUK- | 337 days 19 hours ago - User only got 1 bubble - Show
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SAiOSiN - 337 days 10 hours ago
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Gametrailers does not have quality IMO. The winner is ign and youtube (the HD ones are amazing)
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GIJeff - 337 days 6 hours ago
2.5 - hey
killzone 1 wasn't a bad game at all. At least the single player was quite good.
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Nathan Drake - 338 days ago
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Sony's secret weapon is the PSP,<--information on the confusing statement coming soon
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xg-ei8ht - 338 days ago
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I still love those adverts.

Even the Lair one.

Seriously rocks.
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jay2 - 338 days ago
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Nah, disagree with that comment.
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WANNA GET HIGH - 338 days ago
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Killzone 2 will be a very good game but i have a feeling it will end up like LBP in terms of sales.I just know sony will not market this game, as much as i want them to i just have a feeling they would not.
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chanto23 - 338 days ago
6.1 - nah...i think it will do way better than LBP...
the reason is that this time not only the PS3 only owners that bought LBP will buy Killzone 2, but also a lot of 360 only owners and 360 fans that also own a PS3 will buy this game. I don't think it will sell millions on the 1st day but it will sell better than LBP. I don't expect MGS4 numbers since this game is not what Japanese like.

Plus the word of mouth will really help this one a LOT!!!
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kewlkat007 - 337 days 22 hours ago
6.2 - ?I have felt the same and whats scary is LBP is a game that could do well in all regions...and should do better
A shooter on the other hand...we know where they sell best. It will have to do better than MGS4 in the US, and that s storied/strong franchise..
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CyberCam - 337 days 22 hours ago
6.3 - Most fans & journalists don't think strategically
Everyday non-business type of people, don't really think with a business strategy in mind and only comment or reacts based on emotion, which could end up bankrupt in the end.

Think about this, your company has lost upwards of a billion dollars this year on operating costs and your bleeding money in a recession stricken time. You've made some terrible business decisions in terms of marketing your all products & rushing some titles to the market that are not quite ready. Presently you can't afford to take any more risks and lose more money, so you need to spend what money you have wisely.

You have the most expensive console on the market that for most part has been losing you money like crazy, but you're continuously looking for ways to cut your manufacturing costs. Finally after some time you have managed to stop the money bleeding and are now making money on your hardware.

You have the majority of the media & the competitors customers taring you a new one and spreading as much negative propaganda to the public every chance they get. Sales are slowly declining but you know that you have a few aces up your sleeve (software wise).

One of these 'aces' is a AAA software title that you've already spent 50 million on (way beyond budget), but it's your best software product that appeals to the masses. You don't want to blow unnecessary cash on marketing that does not need to be spent. The idea is to sell as much overall products without over spending on marketing, which cut into your profits.

Now sometime before it's release, you release ton of videos to the gaming community in order to do some cheap marketing and start the hype train rolling and to get a feel of what the demand might be for the game.

A couple of months before release you get the final build into the hands of the gaming journalists to raise the level of hype and to observe the reaction of the leaders of the gaming community.

Now it's showtime, the game is then released and reviews are plastered all over the net (more free advertising), hopefully most reviews turn out positive.

Your initial sales now dictates the amount of money you can spend on advertising. Once these initial sales have been set, you now start your advertising campaign to reach the customers that have not been informed of the AAA product you have released.

Now the second wave of sales spike after the advertising blitz that you've only paid a few months for instead of paying out the nose for a huge 6 months+ campaign.

Your third wave (actually a trickle) of sales comes from word of mouth, from your existing customers to the remaining people that have been living under a rock. You now have made the most profit you can without gouging a huge portion for your marketing campaign.

In short... in these hard economic times you can't just start throwing more money into the wind, how can you absolutely garrantee you'll get the return on your investment, especially when you're already in the hole 50 million big ones! You have to think wisely & use some comment sense!
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silent h3ro - 337 days 20 hours ago
6.4 - @towlie
Are you kidding me? Killzone is going to do way better than LBP. Also I know it will do better than MGS4 IMO, which is a very niche game in the U.S. High budget FPS game release in the U.S. is guaranteed to do very well and add some good marketing to it and it will do amazingly.
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cayal - 337 days 18 hours ago
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"Killzone 2 will be a very good game but i have a feeling it will end up like LBP in terms of sales.I just know sony will not market this game, as much as i want them to i just have a feeling they would not."

Unfortunately so do I.

I hope it sells billions but I just have a feeling it won't and the 360 fanboys will be out in force again.
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SAiOSiN - 337 days 10 hours ago
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I think it will sell around 500k-1mil launch week. That is very good. It has tons of hype. Think about it. New ips like uncharted sold over 2 million. Killzone 2 is an fps making it a lot more accessible to people. I think killzone 2 will sell somewhere around 5mil LTD. that's just my opinion.
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SeanScythe - 337 days 6 hours ago
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not sure when it is but I heard they have ads ready for the super bowl. So if they show KZ2 durring that then a lot of people are going to see it all at once.
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HDgamer - 338 days ago
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Sony's secret weapon, every ps1 classic come to life. Gex the Gecko.
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ape007 - 338 days ago
7.1 - omg
gex was amazing,a classic game

I had it on 3DO way back then

bubble up
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ForROME - 337 days 23 hours ago
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Awww good ol gex, I still have my 3do =) need for speed and the horde
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WANNA GET HIGH - 337 days 23 hours ago
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Well lets hope so.I am buying the game day1 :)
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Johnny Rotten - 338 days ago
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ummmm ok go spend $60 on another shooter, or any other game for that matter.

Hype is only hype... some people buy into it with high expectations, some people buy into it for what it is, a good game that's up there with the rest!
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ape007 - 337 days 23 hours ago
9 - after I saw the latest build at ces 09
all I can say that killzone 2 is going to shatter standards,amaze gamers and kill some haters

in other words "killzowned"
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Premonition - 337 days 23 hours ago
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Anyone think it would be a smart move on sony's part to advertise Killzone 2 during the superbowl?
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TruthBTold - 337 days 23 hours ago
10.1 - It would be foolish of them not to
Sony has put a lot of money into KZ2 and GG has worked really hard to create this game. It has been talked about and anticipated by the gaming community for years. Superbowl is probably the most watched event every year, a time when people buy more televisions just to watch the game on a larger or better screen. People will surely be siting on their couch watching every minute of the superbowl and even those unique commercials that air for the first time during the superbowl. If someone wants attention, this is the time to get it from everyone. Sony should work on a badd@ss commercial and air it during the superbowl to let everyone know Killzone 2 is here and its amazing.
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silvacrest - 337 days 23 hours ago
10.2 - They should do that and much more
i wanna be overwhelmed by killzone 2 adds

it should atleast be mgs4 levels but then again if you spend millions developing a game why not tell the world about it?
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lento - 337 days 22 hours ago
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some ppl actually watch the superbowl because of the commericals.... why not give them something to get excited about

so ya very smart move and cant forget the millions of viewers thatll be seeing it.... good way to get the info out to the masses
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SAiOSiN - 337 days 10 hours ago
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i have a hunch that sony will advertise kz2 during half time. I think they picked feb. for a reason.
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Jackass Tretton - 337 days 23 hours ago
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Allow me to clear this up. Killzone 2 is not our secret weapon. I honestly expected a lot more for the $40 Million plus we dropped on it. Just between us, it's about a 7.5 out of 10.

We only have about $10K left for Killzone 2's advertising budget so I need you guys to talk it up on the streets, at school, at home and at work.

Get out and buy our games for a change too instead of talking about how great they are without having played them. Take it from us, talk is cheap.

If this game does not crack the top 10 in software sales for the month of March we will have no choice but to make our real secret weapon a multiplatform release. Go out and buy Killzone 2 if you don't want Kratos wearing Xbox green.
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silvacrest - 337 days 23 hours ago
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please get a life

at least greenturd was fun sometimes...
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pav2323 - 337 days 23 hours ago
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And people say Sony Fanboys are retarded.
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WANNA GET HIGH - 337 days 23 hours ago
11.3 - Jackass Tretton
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING..... :/
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cayal - 337 days 17 hours ago
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That is just epic fail.
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Harryhit4 - 337 days 11 hours ago
11.5 - Snore.
Your failed attempt at being funny just gave me cancer.
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Premonition - 337 days 23 hours ago
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I agree sony should advertise Killzone 2 at the superbowl, I mean who knows how much they can sell software and hardware wise do to the viewers the superbowl will attract, I mean if they have to show it 1 or 2 times it wouldnt hurt their wallets hopefully.
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QuackPot - 337 days 22 hours ago
12.1 - Quite frankly...
Sony will be wasting their money advertising at the Superbowl as the Ps3 is still too expensive.

Even if LBP got heaps of advertising, which it didn't, it still wouldn't have been a system seller due to the high price and the casual gamer market it was focussed on.

Killzone 2 is not a game for casual gamers and more adult orientated. Nor does it have the large loyal hardcore fanbase of GTA, Halo, Gears etc.

Plus the Ps3 user base is more diverse with different reasons for buy a Ps3 - not necessarily for gaming.

Needless to say, KZ2 will do respectable sales - guessing 2-3 million at the most - all because of the price of the Ps3, the owner demographics & the type of game it is.

So, Sony should save its money for REGULAR & CHEAPER advertising towards the current owner base.
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Bubble Buddy - 337 days 23 hours ago
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Wish the secret weapon was Jak? :(, but Killzone 2 is still good nuff for me :D.
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Jamegohanssj5 - 337 days 23 hours ago
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Nice bubbles buddy :D.

TGSI
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buddyro - 337 days 22 hours ago
14 - when a fanboy pays
$400 and something for a review build of a game I think the game will be great.
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