The 1UP Show: Episode 10/10/08

kratos-i-am - 444 days 22 hours ago

lol such a hater! It's an Xbox exclusive as of this moment! + They are showing it off in an MS booth which is next to Square's.

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Close_Second - 444 days 22 hours ago

The sooner you're reduced to one star the better off everyone else on this site will be.

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DrWan - 444 days 22 hours ago

Good idea, reducing in process.

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sonarus - 444 days 22 hours ago

lol good one silogon

I don't knw from what i saw it looked okay but i also only saw off screen vids

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ShinGino - 444 days 22 hours ago

One can tell how good a game generally looks by the way the hair is rendered.

PS3 FFXIII renders hair much better than 360's Star Ocean.

Both games have the same status. Square-Enix is only working on the PS3 version of FFXIII and that's what they're only showing.
Same thing for Star Ocean. No one's seen PS3 footage of it yet.

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IntelligentAj - 444 days 22 hours ago

I must be by myself when I say I don't give a damn how refined the graphics are. Give me a story and gameplay like the last two and i'm off into the sunset with my purchase.

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TheTwelve - 444 days 23 hours ago

Man am I the only person that loved Star Ocean 3?

And am I the only person that things Japanese developers are not ready to give Microsoft their best JRPGs until they're sure the 360 will be a real force in Japan?

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TheHater - 444 days 22 hours ago

I actually liked Star Ocean 3. I spend about 250 hours playing that game :)
But compare to part 1 and 2, is was a let down.

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IDemonstalkerXI - 444 days 22 hours ago

Star Ocean 3 was great IMO. The Story was cool.

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TheTwelve - 444 days 22 hours ago

The story blew me away.

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Kigmal - 444 days 22 hours ago

Tales of Vesperia? Eternal Sonata? They already got FFXIII.

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IntelligentAj - 444 days 22 hours ago

Nah your not by yourself with loving 3. They could have done the item creation better but I enjoyed the story(When I jumped through the gate and went into 4D space I flipped out) and the battle system and characters I think were done well. Albel was my favortite character though: It doesn't matter how many maggots you've got, i'll crush them all... priceless. I can't understand why this game blasted the way it does.

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TheHater - 444 days 23 hours ago

February in Japan, and March in the State. Don't have a release date as yet for Europe

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UltimateIdiot911 - 444 days 23 hours ago

Ouch, about 4 months to get the game up to par. Actually less, since the game has to go gold and ship out.

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juuken - 444 days 22 hours ago

Stop making me laugh with that! xD

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thereapersson - 444 days 22 hours ago

The character models are ALWAYS relatively low polygon count. The Unreal Engine is good at texturing to hide this, but if you have ever played Unreal Tournament 3 or Gears of War and have seen the textures pop in, you can see how low the poly counts on the models are before being textured up.

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socomnick - 444 days 21 hours ago

This isnt using the unreal engine. My guess is that its using the same engine in infinite undiscovery, but star ocean 4 looks much much better.

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thereapersson - 444 days 22 hours ago

The shaders and texture work are somewhat low-res.

This is an early build, however, and I have a feeling the game will turn out great by the time it's released next year.

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tplarkin7 - 444 days 20 hours ago

It's become typical of japanese games to lack modern special effects. They seem stuck in 1999 in terms of texture technology. But the characters and animations look good.

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ozsman - 444 days 22 hours ago

equals n4g =)

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GiantEnemyCrab - 444 days 22 hours ago

this is how this site whores out hits. Because multiple reports to the admin of this guy fall on def ears.

Agreed, if you listen to the podcast Troll boy has basically taken a comment out of context and is passing it off as the whole story. To add spice, he includes the PS3 section which is game has not been announced for.

The game isn't even finished yet in SO's defense. Man, ps3 owners are sure hurt about this not coming to the PS3.

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tplarkin7 - 444 days 20 hours ago

John Schappert, VP of Xbox Live, said that it is exclusive at TGS. The SO4 site also shows it is exclusive.

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robotnik - 444 days 22 hours ago

No hate here from me, only love in bubble shape

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J@D - 444 days 12 hours ago

^ At least someone rational. Bubble 4 ya'

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UltimateIdiot911 - 444 days 22 hours ago

Actually less, it's releasing on February 19, 2009 in japan. March 3, 2009 in US.

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thereapersson - 444 days 22 hours ago

But, that bloom is *really* hard on the eyes, IMO

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GiantEnemyCrab - 444 days 22 hours ago

"I'm a PS3 fan-freak."

I stopped reading right there. I'm sure it was some made-up tinfoil hat theory.

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thereapersson - 444 days 22 hours ago

Giant Enemy Crab, you're in no position to talk about unbiased behavior and objectivity...

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bouncybullet - 444 days 21 hours ago

So much time wasted bashing on a game nobody even cares about.

Warhawk is a gem, lets talk about that 3rd person rts.

Fanboys (including the whore who posted this BS "news") love to rip on exclusives.

get a life.

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bouncybullet - 444 days 21 hours ago

Ports aren't ever superior on PS3.

where have you been?

Too busy pre-ordering Bioshock..?

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Montrealien - 444 days 23 hours ago

Shane says. "Star ocean 4 looks good" "graphics look pretty good" "star ocean is a really good game, don't get down on it"

There's more titles for you. you fail, as usual.

title of this story should be,

"1up yours 10/10/2008"

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GiantEnemyCrab - 444 days 22 hours ago

Then why did you approve this Montrealin? This commentor is the exact same person who posted the story with his 50 multiple accounts.

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Montrealien - 444 days 22 hours ago

accident? :S

I was the 10th approval...

*runs and hides.*

"damn you troll! daaaawwwwmmmm yoooouuuu diiiirrrttttyyy trroolllsss!!!!"

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Jason 360 - 444 days 17 hours ago

"99% of all 360 games" then what do you call the 99% of all the PS3 games that look worse?

Anyone remember all the crack babies being born in the 80's? This ^^^ is what happens when they grow up.

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Montrealien - 444 days 14 hours ago

Lanoir, The open zone works both ways, you know, as in we can say whatever we want to the brand whore fantarts, so how about you stfu?

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Veraegic - 444 days 23 hours ago

of course, uncompressed equal better and crispy quality.

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TheHater - 444 days 23 hours ago

Star Ocean 3 was a let down overall compare to the first two. But hay, that is just my opinion.

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tErabyte - 444 days 23 hours ago

I'll have to see ALOT more of Star Ocean 4 before I buy it,hopefully they'll release a Demo as well

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harry190 - 444 days 22 hours ago

Star Ocean 3 was mediocre compared to its predecessors. This one looks like Star Ocean 3.5.

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Roukuko - 444 days 22 hours ago

ya so3 was junk i think its just cause all these games try this real time junk now instead of turn based rpgs just havent been the same.

though kingdom hearts did pull it off pretty well.

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TheHater - 444 days 23 hours ago

agree. That why I stop watch TV, and just watch some moves, and sports.
But back to Star Ocean. I really hope they don't do a reboot, because it just going to mess the story up even more than part 3.
I am very interested on how the story is for this one. I want to see where the take it from where they left off in part 3.

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UltimateIdiot911 - 444 days 22 hours ago

I thought Star Ocean 4 is going to be a prequel.

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TheHater - 444 days 22 hours ago

it is?
That news to me. If it is, then that a lot better.

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UltimateIdiot911 - 444 days 22 hours ago

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

"With this highly anticipated prequel, acclaimed development studio tri-Ace Inc. brings the Star Ocean series to Xbox 360 for the first time."

Edit: @TheHater
No problem

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TheHater - 444 days 22 hours ago

Thanks Ultimate.

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thereapersson - 444 days 22 hours ago

360 games usually always hide low poly models behind shiny textures and extreme bloom effects.

It's easy to develop games for a system where you can use graphical cop-out measures.

ZING!!!

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the bubble repo guy - 444 days 22 hours ago

your bubbles are forfeit, CEO. you can get them back when you grow a brain and are capable of comprehending the concept of logical thought.

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thereapersson - 444 days 22 hours ago

Oh, nice try, but you using ports of 360 games is a tired arguement. It's effectively nullified by the fact that games such as Killzone 2, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank: Future and other excellent looking games that totally blow the look of most 360 games away. Yeah, HAZE was a piece of crap, as was LAIR. However, at least LAIR runs at 1080p.

You really think that porting code from the 360 to the PS3's development architecture is a 1:1 process, eh? Keep telling yourself that Unreal Engine games are the pinnacle of visual fidelity.

Now why again doesn't the 360 have any games that are 1080p and run at 60FPS like Wipeout HD?

Also, LOL @ you using MADDEN of all games as an example of a console's power.

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LeGenDx - 444 days 22 hours ago

i like wipeout hd 1080p hd is so amazing

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zo6_lover27 - 444 days 21 hours ago

I find it funny that you are arguing on how the ps3 games run at low res and low framerates when in reality the ps3 has more games to run at native 1080p than the 360, despite having less titles overall.

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PirateThom - 444 days 21 hours ago

Wipeout HD doesn't drop the resolution when there's more racers on screen. My TV blue screens for a moment when the source changes resolution.

Games don't just change resolution, and certainly not while racing. If it did it on the fly, my TV would be flashing like mad and the game would be unplayable.

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thereapersson - 444 days 21 hours ago

What Agent doesn't realize, is that Wipeout HD is such a technical marvel because it is the first console game to feature a dynamic framebuffer.

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"They're not 1080p in the sense that the resolution is no longer 1920x1080. WipEout HD is now rendering at 1280x1080 (with some screen tear to boot), which I'm fairly sure is the game's lowest resolution - but still a 50% resolution increase over 720p. So what's happening? Basically WipEout HD is the first game I've come across that seems to be operating with a dynamic framebuffer. Resolution can alter on a frame-by-frame basis. Rather than introduce dropped frames, slow down or other unsavoury effects, the number of pixels being rendered drops and the PS3's horizontal hardware scaler is invoked to make up the difference. It's an intriguing solution that works with limited impact on the overall look of the game (the tearing has far more of an impact on image quality - I'm assuming that kicks in when the framebuffer can't scale any lower).

The actual amount of horizontal resolution being dropped can change on a frame by frame basis: 1728x1080, 1645x1080, 1600x1080, 1440x1080. All have been seen in the Digital Foundry TrueHD captures. The shots above appear to be 1500x1080.

The dynamic framebuffer is really quite an innovative solution to the perennial 1080p problem. Even though we're seeing major differences in resolution, the human eye really will have trouble realising the difference when the detail level is changing so rapidly in such a fast moving game. In short, it's making an advanced-looking game like WipEout HD work at 1080p60 and that's pretty damn awesome."

http://www.vgchartz.com/for...

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bouncybullet - 444 days 21 hours ago

1080p doesn't mean sh*t.

sorry.

Wipeout hd being 1080p doesn't make it a better game than MGS4 running at 720p.

So shove the 1080p vs. 720p back up your ass.

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Blitzed - 444 days 11 hours ago

LOL, you are an absolute fool.

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Montrealien - 444 days 22 hours ago

(KZ2,Uncharted,MGS4,GT5P, all look better than any games on the 360?)

My question is, why are two of those great games, not in 1080p\60fps?

And virtual Tennis 3 says hello nubcake.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 444 days 22 hours ago

Agent: I blame it on their inbreeding. lol

Haven't you ever seen a spoiled little child throw a fit in the mall when he doesn't get his ice cream? This is the PS3 fanboy and I picture that everytime I read one of their comments here.

I WANT MY ICE CREAM!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! I DESERVE MY ICE CREAM!!!!! MOMMY I AM THE BESTEST IN THE WORLD!!!!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! MOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYY!

(insert falling on the floor kicking and screaming).

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thereapersson - 444 days 22 hours ago

Unless you are staring at old trailers and going by the demo, you wouldn't know that the final retail version is much better.

You want to talk about bad pop-in and stuttering? Just look no further than Mass Effect, which, incidentally is powered by none other than the Unreal Engine 3 itself and also just happens to be one of the best-looking games on the 360.

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PirateThom - 444 days 21 hours ago

Gears of War 2 barely surpasses Gears of War.

There's games on the PS3 that surpass Gears of War.

I'll just throw Uncharted in here, because the 360 still hasn't produced anything of that graphically quality, with that much colour, with environments that size, with water effects like that and just end this nonsense that Gears of War is the best looking console game, because it's not.

The only people that think Gears of War is still the best looking console game are 360 fanboys who refuse to believe their gaming console has been outdone by a blu-ray player. ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS.

Enjoy your games, sure, but stop spreading lies. The PS3 is as graphically capable as the 360, but has a massive trick, IT CAN DO GRAPHICS AND OTHER THINGS AT THE SAME TIME!

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thereapersson - 444 days 21 hours ago

Yeah, Uncharted really is an amazing-looking game. The texturing, color and lighting all work towards an excellent visual appearance:

Also, Uncharted has some of the best water effects ever seen in a console game.

Edit: and now i'm out of bubbles. If someone wants to give me a few, i'd be glad to continue this discussion.

@ Common Sense: Actually, Haze is sub HD (1024 x 526p, as confirmed by Free Radical.

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PirateThom - 444 days 21 hours ago

Heh, I remember when those screenshots first came out and people called them bullshots and that they were touched up heavily, and then the game came out and looked exactly the same.

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Common Sense - 444 days 21 hours ago

The Ps3 is more powerful than the 360. Better CPU,GPU,Optical media and better RAM. All PS3 exclusives run at least at 720p. Haze was confirmed at 720p by the developer. Ratchet and Clank looks better than all 360 games, so does, GT5p, Uncharted, MGS4, and WipeOut HD.

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Montrealien - 444 days 14 hours ago

Piratethom said..

(Gears of War 2 barely surpasses Gears of War. )

Very true, and Uncrarted 2 will barely surpasse Uncharted 1 (the best lloking game out atm, imho), get it?

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Montrealien - 444 days 22 hours ago

I dissagree, I loved Lair, and I agree, it looked amazing.

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bouncybullet - 444 days 21 hours ago

you haven't played too many multiplats this gen, have you..?

Because the PS3 version usually isn't the superior at all.

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snoopgg - 444 days 15 hours ago

but most multiplats play and look pretty equal if not better on the ps3 now!!! If anything I slightly agree with you, the 360 multiplats used to look and play better, but it is because of the 360 that all those ps3 multiplats are being held back in what they could have looked if programmed for the ps3 in the first place. Yeah and before you xbots all go and say why didn't haze look and play better. My responce is that Free Radical didn't do as good as they could of with it. I own a 360 also, and there have been a whole lot of turds on this system that should have been way better, considering it is being programmed for the 360 first. I will only name one because it was in development longer then Haze and was so shat when released. Too Human was just as much a turd for the 360 and it had plenty of time to be a good game. When Killzone 2 comes out anyone with a 360 and a pair of eyes will see what exclusives that are done well look like. Anyhow Lair looks better then any game on the 360 to this day and doesn't play bad with the downloadable patch, so get off that whole lair issue.

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