Sony: 'PS2 will be ahead of Wii in 2011'

Kratos Spartan - 481 days 18 hours ago

I can't understand why he would say that? Last I heard the PS2 had a 140 million base. The Wii? Only 30 million. I don't get it. Why is he saying only 90 million for PS2 by 2011? WTF!!!

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silverchode - 481 days 18 hours ago

active users maybe?

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Kratos Spartan - 481 days 18 hours ago

Now define "active users" Eyetoy vs. motion control? That's all I could think of for it. And still there is no way to really count active users, is there? Polls aren't really accurate, because not everyone who should will reply to one. So who knows.

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orakga - 481 days 17 hours ago

... as in people who still have their consoled plugged into their TVs and play games on them. So, by that account, the active user base for the PS2 HAS to be lower than 140 million. It's because many people who had at one point purchased PS2s now own PS3s, 360s and Wiis and don't use their PS2s anymore.

But yes, it's nearly impossible to measure that "active base" accurately (especially on a last-gen console which doesn't need an online connection like the next-gens), so that is merely an estimation.

But IMO, that 90 million number STILL looks high. I think, without countring sales from developing countries in the mid-east, south america and... lord, AFRICA, those numbers are going to be hard to sustain in 2011. Who would not have bought a PS3 or 360 by then? (they'll both be under $200 by then!!)

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Palodios - 481 days 13 hours ago

I've been saying it for a while, but the ps2 is crucial for Sony to "win the war against the Wii", so to speak. So far, we've heard all these rumors and speculation about motion control from Sony, but what if its not actually meant for the ps3 but for the ps2?

3rd party wii "exclusives" have been pretty much just cashcows. Give the ps2 motion controls and 3rd party developers working on those motion control games will make them for the ps2 also, because cheap ports mean bigger profit, and there wouldn't be any reason not to. People with ps2s would skip the wii and just buy a peripheral instead, except for those looking for the hardcore games, effectively making the ps2 the cheapman's Wii.

Its just a hunch of mine, but really, what does Sony have to lose, besides an investment in a system that has proven itself?

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Tarasque - 481 days 20 hours ago

Dood you have done gone ape sh1t. I would might put the ps2 in the top 5 maybe. Atari 2600 and the nes and the playstation (not ps2) set standards for gaming.

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Silellak - 481 days 20 hours ago

My favorite age of gaming is still the SNES-era. Both the console games and PC games during that timeframe were spectacular.

To me, the SNES will always be the greatest console because it has the highest concentration of my Favorite Games Evar.

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RememberThe357 - 481 days 13 hours ago

...just because I want to see a new San Andreas.

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juuken - 481 days 20 hours ago

I agree. I love the PS2 and all but Sony should focus on the PS3 now.

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Gam71 - 481 days 20 hours ago

If he's right and this is not the typical pr spin that we get from all three companies then maybe sony could put b/c back in as that could tempt the ps2 users to upgrade and keep playing and buy ps2 games.

if he is right then sony really need to push the ps2 and wind down the ps2. 2011 and still no foothold for the ps3 is not good.
It's a testament to the ps2 if thats true but by then it will be holding the ps3 back.

I think he knows it as he had to put the ps3 and psp together to get it above the 360.

They need to look to getting the ps2 "active users" onto the ps3 not boasting that it will be no. 1 in 3 years time.

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orakga - 481 days 17 hours ago

Just because your ex was hot, it doesn't mean you're *still* a stud. Focus on your current project Sony and stop showing off your past achievements.

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mfwahwah - 481 days 16 hours ago

He predicts that PS3 and PSP EACH have 70mil, at least that's what I gathered from the original story.

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RememberThe357 - 481 days 13 hours ago

That was the best analogy ever. bubbles.

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Gam71 - 481 days 12 hours ago

Orakga that was a damn good analogy.

As for the ps3 and psp it's open to a person interpretation.
We will never know until we get clarification but as it's probably a dig at the 360 you're probably right.

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yanikins111 - 481 days 21 hours ago

dunno about using online to guage user bases. The 360 and ps3 are selling to different demographics. Most people i know with ps3's dont play online, whilst most people i know with 360's do. Its not that they dont like the service btw, gaming is really just a part time thing for them...

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DaKid - 481 days 21 hours ago

I was just saying that its a little easier to gauge because they can collect information right from their online service. I am not saying take how many are on, but look at how much they login, how long they play, what they play. and use this information to with stats to get an idea for the entire uses base. a Stats point of view, adjusting for margin of error of course.

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orakga - 481 days 17 hours ago

You're right, the PS3 doesn't get as much online PLAY as the 360, but the users connect to the PSN just the same. In fact, they HAVE to connect to the PSN every month or so for the firmware updates, so measuring the number of PS3 machines that connected to PSN (even if they're not using multiplayer for it) gives a very accurate reference point for the active user base.

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mfwahwah - 481 days 16 hours ago

You can get FW updates without logging onto PSN. You can install it from a flash drive that has the update downloaded from the Sony website.

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RememberThe357 - 481 days 13 hours ago

Most people I know play their PS3s online and not so much on the 360. Not sure why that is, but what ever.

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RememberThe357 - 481 days 13 hours ago

I think/know that the PS360 and the Wii are mostly two different demographics. Nintendo has stated repeatedly that they do not see the Wii directly in composition with the PS360. It sounded to me more like they want to use the ps2 to get some of the demographic that the Wii has courted. With the price point and the library the PS2 has I could see that happening. The PS3 doesn't have the price point to compete with the Wii for casual gamers, but the PS2 does.

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Voiceofreason - 481 days 8 hours ago

Nintendo stated they are not in a race to see who can make the most powerful console. That doesnt mean they are no longer a game maker. Their products are available in the very same gaming stores that carry PS3 and 360. Their sales are charted and compared with those same companies.The companies that make games for PS3 and 360 are also making games for the Wii.

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Fishy Fingers - 481 days 21 hours ago

Havent Sony already confirmed they're now making profit from the PS3?

Edit: Sorry I'm incorrect, Sonys gaming devision as a whole turned a profit but the PS3 alone is on track to turn profit in March 2009.

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Syronicus - 481 days 19 hours ago

Unfair? Kinda like how the Xbox fanboys talk about how their install base is larger than the PS3's? How the 360 has more games out on the market? We all know the 360 had a year head start right? So now we know that the install base argument is unfair. Thanks for clearing that up.

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jspc1989 - 481 days 19 hours ago

no offense but it alomost sounds like u took that personally lol. I suppose neither of u were right reali becus they were both just opinions on whats fair and what isnt.

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Syronicus - 481 days 18 hours ago

No offense taken. What I said was more sarcastic than anything. I have read a ton of posts on the subjects I brought up and when I heard a known Xbox fan say what LaChance said, it struck me as odd and somewhat funny. Nothing too serious.

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Rico_Suavez - 481 days 21 hours ago

Serious? What tricks does Nintendo Have? Another Wii peripheral? Ha give me a break.. And there is no way they are going to drop the price anytime soon, trust me. And a HD Add On ha... I realize a long time ago Nintendo is winning its own war...

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kevnb - 481 days 21 hours ago

they are dead to me now anyway, and Im not the only one who bought a wii and was disappointed.

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orakga - 481 days 16 hours ago

An add-on to produce HD graphics?
Wow, you can't be serious. If you had the simplest understanding of computer architecture, you'd know that is IMPOSSIBLE, especially on the Wii hardware (which port would it plug into? What bus speed does that port have?)

There's a reason why all seasoned gamers dissed the Wii when it launched. And while many of them were being too cynical of the Wii, the one thing they did point out correctly was the Wii's hardware limitation.

The only "tricks" Nintendo has left are in the creative department. On the hardware front, the only way they can improve is by releasing a new piece of hardware (which would upset a lot of existing users and confuse the average consumer).

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DaKid - 481 days 21 hours ago

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

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Kratos Spartan - 481 days 18 hours ago

They may have just released the PS3 too early, maybe cuz Micro released their "next-gen" system and Sony didn't want them to steal the next-gen thunder. The PS2 is still selling a decent amount. I still believe the 360 was rushed out to compete with the still selling PS2.

Just look at the changes from the first xbox to the 360. The PS2 didn't have a standard hard drive like the xbox. And now the 360 doesn't. I think Micro tried to make a PS2.5 cuz they failed to stop the momentum of the PS2 with the first Xbox. And then they slapped a next-gen sticker on it and told Sony "you're late!" So Sony was forced to respond with theirs.

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kevnb - 481 days 20 hours ago

but at the same time, was there more people playing snes than ps1 in 1998? Or even more people playing ps1 than xbox in 2004?

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mistertwoturbo - 481 days 20 hours ago

Well you see they work both ways. That's why people like Tordavis who says he hates all three companies. They all have their own sh*t that they put in people's faces.

But the one that throws the most feces around just happen to be Microsoft. And Don Mattrick is like a living walking pile of poo, cause he says the most crap out of anybody.

We are talking about some serious DOO DOO here lol

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Gam71 - 481 days 19 hours ago

I'm sorry but i have to disagree about ms throwing the most around.
This gen for sony has been based purely on mud slinging then backtracking.

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Viktor E - 481 days 18 hours ago

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nieto - 481 days 12 hours ago

too bad a 10 years old console can kick the x360 ass too...
that shows how impressive the RRoD boX its. ;-)

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dan-boy - 481 days 18 hours ago

an undoubtably a virgin!!

lol. i would hate to be a no lifer of your calibre. tell me, what's it like to be you?????

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WIIIS1 - 481 days 16 hours ago

Dan my man, Nasim is ALREADY telling us all loud and clear just how tragic it is to be a PS droid loser like him. You can't possibly make it any clearer than his through his posts on N4G.

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nieto - 481 days 12 hours ago

are you trying to make fun of somebody?

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LoVeRSaMa - 480 days 22 hours ago

N-Bomb =/

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