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E3: Nintendo "Hoping People Can Manage" with SD Cards

In an interview conducted shortly after Nintendo's E3 Press Conference, Nintendo's VP of Marketing and Sales, Cammie Dunaway, was asked about the possibility of a hard drive for the Nintendo Wii. Dunaway replied, in part:

"Well we're just hoping people can continue to manage right now using SD cards, deleting games that they're not playing."
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Published: 537 days 20 hours ago | News | E3 2008 | Wii | Nintendo DS | Gaming
 
 

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Adamalicious - 537 days 20 hours ago
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Dear Nintendo Lady,

That's super lame.

Thanks,
Adam
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Elimin8 - 537 days 14 hours ago
1.1 - Agreed
I tried to give you 12 agrees but it won't let me......
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SmokingMonkey - 537 days 20 hours ago
2 - Nintendo always pulls this crap
first they didn't want to do discs
now they don't want to do Hard Drives?
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Panthers - 537 days 19 hours ago
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They are against progression and dont want to use new technology to push the limits of gaming forward.

Not to mention how much they didnt want to do online. It was all about connectivity with them. Connect your GB with your GC and do stupid crap on FF Crystal Chronicles.
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scissor_runner - 537 days 14 hours ago
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@Panthers yeah they are against tech that's why they are using Sram for their main ram right and the fastest made also, yeap faster than GDDR. They are just cheap because most gamers are cheap ask MS and SONY they are proof. The N64 was around $400 and it sold like poop in a bag. Carts where hella expensive to every one even developers and they wanted to keep using them because they had a plan. You see as the chips shrink these cart will keep getting cheaper and cheaper. Thats why ram dropped so low 8 gigs of the good stuff was $300 last time I checked and 2gigs use to cost $1400 I know cost that's what I paid for it back in 2000.

I mean really if it was up to nintendo we might have 64DD disk with terabytes and An SNES in every controller with a Quad Boardway with water cooled in the console but hey we don't hardcores and developers jumped ship. They had good reasons too carts cost too much just look at neo geo carts hell those games just started shipping on hard drives LOL. To tell you the truth nintendo wanted carts because they could put extra stuff in them like FX chips and what not. I mean if carts where still around the way nintendo wanted them to be we might have phyics Processors in them also. Yep games would cost a mint but the system would be cheap. Modular systems are the way to go tech wise some thing new is always coming out. Nintendo is always sticking tech in crazy places and getting cool results. That's smart because only intel and the GPU maker are allowed to play the number crunching game.
SONY had no idea what they where getting into... these chips are way beyond making a format for movies.

What is funny is solid state is going to become the next big thing and we are going right back to carts watch or 3d storage.

But yeah nintendo is bad and stupid I agree I'm even surprise they are still around!
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Smacktard - 537 days 20 hours ago
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Her statement (we're hoping people can just continue to manage right now using SD cards) sounds very promising. By the way she phrased it, it sounds like they really are trying to work on a solution. One that's really needed. However, it could just be her stupid way of not addressing a question well. Like other parts of that interview. She totally dodged the first-party DS game question. Also, Professor Layton was the first game she ever finished? Why the hell is she in charge of marketing? Don't you have to know your product if you're trying to sell it?

Also, the message directed to disappointed hardcore fans... sigh. They could've at LEAST mentioned a little bit about Pikmin 3, the new Mario and Zelda titles, the Conduit, Kid Icarus, Captain Rainbow... something. ANYTHING.
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scissor_runner - 537 days 14 hours ago
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I think she is in charge of keep nintendo's nose clean so the public does not kill them for having hardcore games on the system also. That's the only reason why I can say she is there. I mean had she been there before manhunt would have stayed a none issue because it would have not been shown. Every one was happy they showed it but no one bought it LOL.

It's like people that want you to get drunk with them and still treat you like your lame LOL. She is there to take the beer out of mario mouth and put him to bed. I don't like her but she is necessary. American and UK moms are rough and it takes a special brain to understand them. I'd rather get my hardcore news underground anyway I hate all the penis gobbling. Pictures and facts less opinions! That's news to me.
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BlackIceJoe - 537 days 20 hours ago
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I am not sure if I am the only one but I really do not like Cammie Dunaway. Seeing how she acted in the press conference was funny and immature. Also Just because I can redownload the games again does not make it easy. I see a lot of VC and Wiiware games I would like to download. But I have not bought them because it is a pain to have to redownload them if I want to play them. Plus I already used up a lot of the internal Memory of the Wii. So it makes it even harder for me to go and download a game. It would be another story though if Nintendo would allow me to play games off of a SD memory card or the Wii could use a Hard Drive.
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Smacktard - 537 days 20 hours ago
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I don't like Cammie either. The conference was ridiculous. She acted extremely immature and fake. It seems to me that she couldn't care less about anything Nintendo as long as she does her job and gets paid.
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scissor_runner - 537 days 9 hours ago
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I got a 4 gig SD card and all my games are stored on my PC, i'll be burning a disk soon enough also. This is until they make a USB storage solution. I heard the USB hack is slow then I thought they where using USB 1.0 but no it's 2.0 some one must have bad drivers. They need to do some thing though and I think they will. It would be crazy to see ID tech 5 trying to run on this system all they need is a fast storage system and it would be here. I hope they go for firewire next console at least! It would be nice if the had a loading list so you could leave while it was uploading.
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Product - 537 days 20 hours ago
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Hmmm "manage right now" sounds alittle like somehting is coming imo.Although it is nintendo so doubt it.
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tojfs7931 - 537 days 19 hours ago
6 - I think they are talking about
Maybe adding a solid state type storage medium as that is where the industry is heading.
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AclayPS3 - 537 days 19 hours ago
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Nintendo is probably scared to put a Hard drive in a Wii because if they did that, it would jack up the price of the Wii by $50-$75 bucks or even more and they don't want to loose momentuem in sales by having their console more expensive.
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vlazed - 537 days 19 hours ago
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This is a major problem for me right now and I have stopped buying down loadable games for that reason. If I have to delete games just to play new ones it makes me feel like I don't actually own the games. I like the Wii, but I am disappointed in the direction Nintendo is taking it.
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Kwertie - 537 days 18 hours ago
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Dear Nintendo
I am a huge user of Virtual Console, and I probably would be of WiiWare too, but I have run out of space. It takes up to 5 minutes to copy and/or delete an N64 game, which is significantly longer than it takes for me to dig out the actual N64 cart and pop it in my N64. Something is wrong. Nintendo, I want to give you money, but you are making it extremely difficult and time consuming for me to do so.
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Altered_Soul - 537 days 17 hours ago
10 - I don't get it.
I love my Nintendo Wii, mostly because I am a PC gamer so I can happily switch back and forth to enjoy the best of both worlds, but being not only a gamer, but also a diehard techie and an engineer, it truly puzzles me how Nintendo has missed so many great marketing and tech strategies that they could make work easily for those hardcore gamers and even some casual gamers.

This is one of those situations: storage. Should they have to reinvent the Wii with a harddrive or huge flash capacity? No way, that would be way to hard and way to negative on their sales as price would go up for something their casual market would barely touch. But the Wii is adaptable, it has various inputs, and at worst case, it has a wifi to connect. A proprietary solid state drive, which are low power devices, could quickly stack up the storage space and solve a lot of hardcore gamers problems. Hell, if on the USB, they could even jury rig a daisy chain to stack storage (at certain costs of course).

Again, this simple, if not 100% elegant, serves as a basis for what could be a workable and useful storage solution, without having to worry about recreating the Wii, and catering to the core gamers who need that storage space and even to some casual gamers who aren't as savvy at deleting various little WiiWare and VC games.

Now if only they would realize the social aspect of proper voice chat implementation, and updating games to counter certain simple criticisms, Nintendo would be rolling in appreciation. Imagine with the storage space improved, they could roll out certain content for games like, say, Mario Kart Wii, to add the ability to enable/disable certain items. That would please the hardcore for sure (damn blue shells). For casuals, who most certainly notice certain other niggling problems, it would help as well. Wii Fit is great, yes (I actually enjoy it for what it is), but who's brilliant idea was it to make a work-out and fitness game without the ability to create a savable workout schedule plan, or even to be able to queue up workouts so we don't have to let our heart rate drop to fiddle through menus? More storage space will allow desperately needed updates to fix small simple problems like this.

Alright, now hire me, clearly I am a genius who needed to spend part of his day offering solutions to problems. I must know everything, ever. Clearly.
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scissor_runner - 537 days 8 hours ago
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Great post your hired.

The question now is this HI speed USB or just the normal one?
"Hi-Speed USB" refers to just the 480 Mbps portion of the USB 2.0 specification. We now use the term "USB" to refer to the 12Mbps and 1.5Mbps speeds. -intel one of the guys that came up with the standard.

I think it maybe 12mps or 1.5mbps. I think that is one of the real problems. Do you think they could get the starlet to go up to 480MPS? That's what is powering the USB and other things in the Wii. The chips real name is ARM926 series 9 ARM core. An ARM proprietary chip. The hack floating around may have gotten it to run at 1.5. I haven't heard of any developers trying it yet but maybe they are not sharing? What is the speed of the sd card reader in the Wii? I think the Wii can output around 6,400KB/sec with the right SD card and maybe higher. That's no real Harddrive replacement though. I think this is the problem. I have 2 gigs of memory and suddenly I want to copy 200 megs to my flash drive. That's going to take a while unless they compress the hell out of every thing! Most ARM9s go up to 300mhz. Turn off all the other things that the chip needs to do and maybe you could get 200mhz out of a USB external solid state drive. I don't think any one has even tested that chips over clockable-ness Wouldn't that be a trip though over clocking a Wii now that would be hardcore.

So this leads me back to the USB as the only hope I'm just wondering if they are trying to find away to make a game for it LOL which would be classic nintendo. I'm sure they could call up John at id and he could think up some thing.

The USB will have to do with some time of transfer boosting for the bus that doesn't kill the chip. Nintendo could also just come out with new Wii's with more memory 8 gigs would be over kill but good. I guess the next problem is upgrading all the Wii's out there. I like GH solution though the new one comes with it's own SD card.

Yet using a new compression method could make the SD card a lot sweeter! Hey I'll leave it up to them yet if they can get close to 480mbps for a USB interface then things will be beyond good. You could use that in game for certain things for sure!
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