CliffyB Calls Metal Gear "Passive Entertainment"

Bill Gates - 553 days 13 hours ago

This guy's a (______)<--- insert 3 letter derogatory word here.

Hey CliffyNutjob, it’s not Kojimas fault that M$ stuck you with DVD9, and last gen hardware. If you’re so jealous of MGS4 put your money where your mouth is and make a game for the PS3, you BABOON.

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BulletToothtony - 553 days 13 hours ago

There really was no need for that comment... i guess he's so wrapped around action and action (which is not bad) that he couldn't simply appreciate some slower pace game.

By that comment only thing that i can detect is jealousy...

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solidjun5 - 553 days 13 hours ago

I predict this thread will turn the cold war into a blazin hot one.

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Monchichi025 - 553 days 13 hours ago

Those games aren't my cup of tea. I want action Dammit!!! If I want to watch a whole bunch of long cutscene I'll go to the movies. But that's just my own personal preference. To each his own!

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iHEARTboobs - 553 days 13 hours ago

With or without the cutscenes, there's still a great game there.

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morganfell - 553 days 13 hours ago

Someone needs to tell him that faux hawk hairdoos are passe and on the way out. Unreal Tournament 3 didn't sell worth a dam because instagib producing mindless shooters are on the way out.

Maybe if he smoked less reefer and employed his mind more then he would understand the undertones of MGS. Sorry wanna be surferboy/new wave/giblet, but your comments are on the way out.

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xhairs - 553 days 13 hours ago

@Wildarm, well said, nothing more that can be said that practically sums it all up. What I see happening is, just like the Halo series, no more campaign just simply multiplayer gaming. As well I see their franchise coming to an abrupt end very soon. Can someone also remind me how long the MGS Series has been alive...since the SNES (but I also believe there was a game way back on the very first PC of MGS). QQ more Biffy.

@Monchichi025
Did you even play the game? If you'd played the game you'd realize that the only, OMG long......(QQ) cutscenese are after you've beaten the game. Other than that you may also SKIP the cutscenes!!! (say what?????? no way!!!) Yeah, that's right you DON'T HAVE TO WATCH THEM. Now STFU and be on your way.

MGS4 -- game of the year hands down. Will it get it? No. Why? Because it's a game for MGS Series FANS not newbies. But even newbies can appreciate this unmatchable game.

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sunnygrg - 553 days 13 hours ago

Cliff Bleszinski, lead game designer of Gears of War 2, should cite Metal Gear Solid as the kind of game Epic cannot make.

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morganfell - 553 days 13 hours ago

No last lachance, that just shows how little you know about Kojima.

http://www.gamepro.com/news...

" I'm a fan of Gears of War as well, it's very interesting."

Now go crawl under a rock and never come here again.

@super below, it doesn't change the meaning at all.

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Superfragilistic - 553 days 13 hours ago

He wasn't dissing MGS4 at all he was merely answering an IGN question regarding the story and used it's storytelling methods as a contrast to what will be seen in Gears 2 - essentially implying more interactive storytelling/scenes rather than the "passive" MGS4 cutscenes for players to watch.

You can read the full interview/hands on @ IGN here http://au.xbox360.ign.com/a...

I've reprinted the quote in it's proper context. Something which Ripten obviously realised wouldn't have garnered as many hits for such a nothing story! lol

IGN: "What lessons did you learn from the first game?"

Cliffy B: "We wanted a blockbuster pace, and in doing so, we lost the story a bit. So that's one of the lessons we learned. This time round there's more repetition. Games aren't movies and aren't consumed in a single sitting. So secondary characters will remind you about stuff, which is re-established in plot cues. Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we're not doing. Passive entertainment is on its way out – you need to hook up with this web 2.0 stuff."

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cmrbe - 553 days 13 hours ago

that is what i think as well. People should really hold back a bit. I really doubt Cliff would diss Kojima. It dosen't sound like him. I read it as well and its obvious that he is just saying that they doing something different from MGS4 nothing more nothing less. In saying it he should be careful with his words though. Internet nowdays can take two words you say and take it completely out of context.

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Liquid Dust - 553 days 12 hours ago

-1.3 million gamers on MGS4's release didnt think so, even though many had somewhat of an idea how long the cutscenes were

-Over 70 game sites/magazines don't think so

-And the next million gamers who show up on day one to buy the next metal gear won't think so either

-Not passive, STEALTH ACTION with beautiful and captivating cutscenes necessary to the story.

-It is what it is, Metal Gear

I am thankful for: a game that actually has a great story, Naomi Hunter, mustaches, and Hideo Kojima

David Hayter for president

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Monchichi025 - 553 days 12 hours ago

Yes, I did play the game and as CLEARLY stated above, it's personally not my type of game. You tell me to skip the cutscenes??? You do realize that a person would be totally lost and not get the full story if one did. So you are kinda forced to watch them. and your in deniel if you say they ain't long. They are!!! So why don't you STFU!

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NewShadow101 - 553 days 12 hours ago

MGS4 is great. ive only played the first two levels and its really good... but just because Cliffy B is making a great game for the xbox doesnt mean you should Bagg on him. Gears is a great game, to me alot funner than anything else out there. MGS has a good story like always but after you beat it then what? online? lol. gears has a much funner online experience. Just like kojima made a masterpiece, Cliffy B also has one and is making another. DONT HATE ON CLIFFY B!!!

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NO_PUDding - 553 days 12 hours ago

Thats such a bad point. Scratch that, it's a non-existant point.

If you don't like the story, why are you watching the cutscenes? Make your mind up. Just skip them, and what the pretty levels go by, like you do in average games like Gears. The truth is there isn't a valid critisism of the cutscenes.

You are just so ignorant it's untrue. And a dumbwit, but that titles goes to anyone who can't make a game any more depthy than an 11" Chainsaw. Or soemone who buys that game.

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Millah - 553 days 12 hours ago

Cliffy B is sort of a toolbag. Does anyone remember how this dude looked before he became this "hip and trendy" game designer celebrity figure? Guy was a total weirdo. Now hes the poster child for 360 cuz hes "so cool :p"

I mean I love Epic Games, but just because they can't make a good narrative if their life depended on it, doesn't mean they should be talkin crap about games that can.

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Light Yagami - 553 days 12 hours ago

Cliffy's just jealous. Remind me to write his name on my notebook.

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scottie2521 - 553 days 12 hours ago

MGS4 had 20 years of story to tie up.

i don't even remember Gears story. just shoot the monsters, THEY"LL KILL US ALL!!!...............that's about it.

i enjoyed Gears, it was one of the few games on the 360 that i really really liked. but i'd take MGS4 over Gears 100x's. i hope the new Gears is good and i'll play it, but if Cliffy thinks his games are in the same league with MGS4 he's delusional.

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Dark Collosis - 553 days 12 hours ago

Gotta love people who take words out of context and spin them up they way they so shall please to.. This is nothing more than flame bait, but even with that said i would much rather play Gears than Metal gear. But thats because i am a action buff.. MGS4 is much more of a game you have to set some time aside to play. While Gears is a pick up game and ACTION right away in your face. Nothing wrong with either game its all in what you prefer. I am of course a gears of war type player while i know a few people who like metal gear so to each his own..... And to say MGS4 is better then GeOW and vice versa is just ignorant fanboy talk. Oh btw it is a FACT that MGS4 is a SLOW paced STORY DRIVEN gameplay.. While GeOW is in FACT a FAST paced ACTION DRIVEN gameplay.... THIS IS A FACT FANBOYS... Comparing the two gameplays is like comparing a Ferrari to a Rolls-Royce....

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littletad - 553 days 12 hours ago

Both games are different and a breath of fresh air for whatever gaming taste your craving at the moment.

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xhairs - 553 days 12 hours ago

They aren't long. And the story is MUCH, MUCH longer than just MGS4. Simply playing MGS4 you are CLUELESS to the background information that was built up from the ground in the beginning of the series, so don't give me that crap that "skipping the cutscene leaves you clueless" because quite frankly, unless you've played the whole series prior to MGS4, you are, in fact, quite clueless to begin with.

Second, I do believe that my bowl of STFU soup got cold, and if you weren't starving for it, I might have just asked for yours.

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Madgunner - 553 days 11 hours ago

haha i completely agree with you... u can skip these cut scenes and if long stories arent ur cup of tee well them skip them.... and if u feel like u missed an important fact about what u need to do.. heres a hint.. call otacon and in less than 15 seconds hes sums up where u need to go... OR look at the map.. the next OBJ is MARKED on your map... then u can proceed to your game... .. but honestly Xhairs summed it up better than i did i think... Cheers and bubbles Xhairs

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LJWooly - 553 days 11 hours ago

I actually sort of liked CliffyB before he started talking crap, then he went downhill. Everyone's cool, until they open their mouth, only for an ungodly amount of crap to come out.

I hate when they do this. I don't see the point on ripping a game that is not only far, far better than anything Epic could even dream of creating, but is guaranteed to remain that way, Gears of War 2 is obviously not going to change that, let's not kid ourselves here.

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thesummerofgeorge - 553 days 11 hours ago

I agree with Wildarms.... It's fine for him to say they're making a different game but they clearly took a shot by saying passive games are on their way out. It's not all that passive first off, you do interact at times during cutscenes but I would have been disappointed if they made the scenes short "press the corresponding button" kind of thing just to appease those who are too impatient to enjoy great storytelling. I'm glad Kojima is dedicated enough to his craft cause too many games/movies are cookie cutter archetypes designed for the impatient and full of mindless action. Not to say gears will be the latter, too early to tell.

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deeznuts - 553 days 10 hours ago

"Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we’re not doing"

That part is ok. Nothing wrong with saying that.

"Passive entertainment is on its way out – you need to hook up with this web 2.0 stuff."

That part is a dig. No doubt about it. There is nothing taken out of context, he just said the Game, nay the masterpiece Kojima made is on it's way out. Essentially telling everyone (possibly including Kojima himself) they/he needs to hook up with this web 2.0 stuff.

Essentially that his game is web 2.0, Kojimas masterpiece is 1.0. That's out of context? NO!

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permutated - 553 days 10 hours ago

How are 90 minute cut scenes NOT passive?

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morganfell - 553 days 10 hours ago

Cliff Blahzinsky could learn quite a few things from Kojima. Monoichi or whatever the hell his name is above should consider that.

First off the bat is cutscene placement. Yes there are great cutscenes in MGS4 that you can skip. You can also save the game right after cutscenes. Can you do that in Gears. Hell no. Save points are before cutscenes. And why? Because Cliffy decided people need to watch cutscenes when coming back to a game or when dying. Even if the story line was 2nd grade simple. Apparently Cliffy thinks his fans are idiots that need to be refreshed even on simple matters. MGS4 fans fart in your general direction Cliffy.

There was nothing worse in Gears than some of the cutscenes that you could not skip. They were always right before a point in the game where you died..a lot. And then the player was forced to go back and repeat that same idiotic unskippable cutscene a bazillion times.

Or just as bad, you would have to travel a long distance and then see a short cutscene then die only to repeat it all over again. Remember when you first meet the Theron Guards at the pumping station? Sheer bad design with placing checkpoints.

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juuken - 553 days 10 hours ago

Personally, I call them action figures, because that's what they look like to me. Action figures in big burly suits of armor. I'm surprised none of them fell over yet with all of that armor.

"cites Metal Gear Solid as the kind of game Epic doesn’t want to make."

It sounds like he's dissing MGS4 to me. What the hell does he mean by *passive*?

And Fallen Angel, if CliffyB (what a stupid name, lol) wasn't saying anything bad about MGS4, then why did he specifically site this game? What the hell did he mean by it being *passive*? It sounds like an insult.

This quote here sounds even more of an insult to me.

"“Metal Gear Solid is our example of the game we’re not doing. Passive entertainment is on its way out.”"

You explain to me what he meant by that.

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CrazzyMan - 553 days 10 hours ago

because THAT is FAST entertainment, lol.

p.s. yeah, stealth - passive, sure. =))

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juuken - 553 days 8 hours ago

Nice going Fallen_Angel. You have been reported, for that offensive comment. If MGS4 is trash, then Gears of War 1 and Gears of War 2 are the biggest piles of trash I have ever seen. I'm sure trash like MGS4 wouldn't have gotten so many 10's and 5's. I'm sure that trash like MGS4 wouldn't be praised as being one of the best games of all time.

Lol, of course you would say that Lee. It seems that 360 owners would even follow MS off a cliff these days. The man clearly insulted the game-no ifs, ands, or BUTS.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 553 days 8 hours ago

I can't believe all these people just attacking Cliffy for this comment. All the MGS4 and PS3 fanboys coming to the rescue. Fact is that all Cliffy is saying is that these are not the kind of games Epic makes as they are focusing more on "action" (or should I say more gameplay).

Let's face it, MGS4 is a great game and cinematics are awesome, but man the cutscenes are long. This game is certainly one of the most passive games I played.

Cliffy's statement is pretty accurate to me.

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PoSTedUP - 553 days 8 hours ago

yeah jukkens right, if mgs4 is a bad game then so is gears1&2, halo1,2&3, uncharted, hevenly sword, mass effect, bioshock, gta1,2,3&4, basically every game ever made is bad according to you. and im sure you heard mgs4's cut scenes are pretty exciting and amazing, so like why make your self look dumb? i dont get people these days, you sound like your under age to buy a T rated game. (T for teen)

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Mr Fancy Pants - 553 days 8 hours ago

He just said that MGS it's the kind of game that Epic doesn't want to make. What is the problem with that? It is just his opinion...

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sunnygrg - 553 days 8 hours ago

You call that art.

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IdleLeeSiuLung - 553 days 8 hours ago

"It seems associating with xbox brand make people DUMB,first that peter moore,then shane kim and greenberg,then Itagaki and now cliffy B.Take this friendly advice seriously and Avoid xbox and anything related to it by all means!"

Wow! We should definetly listen to you with such an intelligent conclusion from your observation.... [/sarcasm]

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xhairs - 553 days 8 hours ago

For those of you complaining about the cutscenes I have some questions for you. First off how would you tell the story? Would you just tell it while you're stealthing around? Probably not, why? Because it's a long series of games that started years (not year or months or days or even within the first hour of MGS4, years) ago. You can't exactly jam pack those first 3 games (and more if you consider them) into the game WHILE you're playing it.

Second, if people have trouble understanding the story line now, how will they ever understand it while trying to sneak past a guard without being seen? They wont, plain and simple.

Third, what good is the story line if it's not to be told in its entirety? It's not, because then you have a simple FPS game. Lets face it, the story line in an FPS is told to you in the first objective, from there on out you just kill people to reach your destination (with the exception of the sniping stage in CoD4).

Would you all like it better if you just ran through the game as they told you briefings? What about the whole story that started over 20 years ago? I mean it makes total sense to me to just complete an objective and move along just like in call of duty 4 right? Wrong. This isn't an FPS game, it's an action - stealth - game. Hence it's supposed to be slow, it's patience that allows you to beat the game not your weapons. Trust me, if you've beaten the game and gone to extreme boss mode you'll find that out within the first act.

@Fallen Angel
I know you're not cliffyB but you're trying to protect him by saying he didn't say anything (when in fact he didn't state it but he did say it subtly (meaning of subtly -- not clearly known)). That's the problem is you're a hypocrite and that's what I was getting across to you. How can you protect him while stating the game is bad because of cut scenes being so long -- not to mention I told you that you can skip them and call otacon to figure out what to do/where to go. So why watch them? If you don't like them, why did you play it? Obviously you would have had to have some background to pick this game up correct? So you obviously knew based off of the past 3 games he put out that the story is the main part of the game. If you couldn't pick that up, then I say good day sir. You have no point commenting on the game if you cannot figure these things out yourself.

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ChrisGTR1 - 553 days 7 hours ago

you know, if metal gear 4 wasnt called metal gear 4. and it was just some random game called sneaking boss or something all of you would of agreed. the cutscenes in the game are monumentally long. especially the one at the end of the game and the one at the end of chapter 3. i literally was like OMG end already! on my first playthrough.
in a game that takes 20 hours to beat and 10 of them are cutscenes... i would defenetly consider that passive.

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Domenikos - 553 days 7 hours ago

You not even played MGS right...?

Are you trying to get some attention for your game?

What if Kojima says: GeoW is "dumb entertaiment (kill everything blocking the path)"

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DG - 553 days 6 hours ago

Clif has a point...I have never played an MGS game more than once. I havent played MGS4 so I cant say anything about it but its safe to assume its like the others. Both are and will be great games. Just enjoy them and stop sucking corporate diq you waste of a brain fanboys.

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Domenikos - 553 days 6 hours ago

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morganfell - 553 days 5 hours ago

@lachance,

I don't either. His comments were carried by plenty of publications. And from what I have seen you spend all day attacking Kojima and anyone else that happens to like the PS3 and any thing even remotely pro PS3.

And if you did something besides complain and attack the PS3 you would see that N4G carried the article I referenced.

http://www.n4g.com/News-203...

Game, set, match.

Metal Gear fans > vickers500.

Snake > Marcus Fenix who never saw Snake coming.

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zethos56 - 553 days 13 hours ago

Learn how to spell

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Shaka2K6 - 553 days 13 hours ago

MGOTYS4 will be remenber 100 years from now,
gears of cartoon 1.5 will be forgotten next year LMAO!

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morganfell - 553 days 13 hours ago

Ignorant isn't he? Don't worry. It isn't a game he even played once.

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steck67 - 553 days 13 hours ago

You are "phatetic".

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Old Snake - 553 days 12 hours ago

Cleary you have never even played it so Stfu. MGS has a ton of replayability. Way more thans Gears, if were leaving out online. What did Gears have to replay? COGS? Ya MGS has way more sh!t than that. This guy is a f#cking twat

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bosels11 - 553 days 11 hours ago

well you can go over to the WII when the XBox 360 is discontinued by the end of next year. And believe me its end is coming -MS has and will always make inferior garbage that doesnt last and sucker morons like you into buying their products. I will just laugh at you and state the fact that the cheaper XBOX as it has been for a while now, will continue to lose worldwide in sales to the PS3 like ......... FOREVER!!!!

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joevfx - 553 days 9 hours ago

MGS4 is how every game should be. i dont mean in gameplay, but in attention to detail and engrossing story. this game is as close to being in and playing a movie as it gets. honestlt gears of war is cool but its just liek every other shooter out there

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Crazyglues - 553 days 8 hours ago

How dare you call our game "Passive Entertainment" HOW DARE YOU!!!

.....LoL

It's cool I don't really care what Cliffy B thinks, I Loved MGS4.

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sunnygrg - 553 days 8 hours ago

Chavafx writes:
"Get mad or whatever, but is true.
MGS4 is not a game. I will ("not" is what he probably means) play more than twice, only a super pathetic fanboy, I mean it is like a movie more (than a game). It is super cool to watch but after you know the story/movie, it is not fun anymore."

I say:
LMAO, disagreed.
MGS4 is a art. Even the great Da Vinci of Gaming(whoever the hell he is) will drool playing this game.

BTW, get an English course, and thank me for correcting your stupid writing.

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CyberSentinel - 553 days 5 hours ago

They like staring at a loading screen for 20 mins while a game installs, before they play their games.

Lemmings like waiting months for their consoles version of a 3rd party game to be converted. (NG:sigma, Eternal Sonata, Bioshock etc.)

Lemmings would rather watch a movie, then play a video game. This is why they love Movie Gear Solid 4.

Lemming like to "Wait B3yond" this gen, for next gen games and features.

Lemmings are "passive" (slow) gamers, this is why they don't like FPS, because they are NOT real gamers.

http://www.escapistmagazine...

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pwnsause - 553 days 13 hours ago

Traumatized much since NG2 got spanked by MGS4?

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vega75 - 553 days 12 hours ago

i know what you mean. once i watch a movie. i rarely watch it again for the second time.

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NO_PUDding - 553 days 12 hours ago

I know what he means too, but I only just bought the Lead Ball Rifle (3rd Playthrough), and MGS4 certainly isn't a movie, and certainly doesn't rely on the story to make it awesome.

I only have 600,000DP now, cus I had 1 milliona nd bought the rifle in the war recession so it was half price.

I still want that Solar gun, and the Bandana and the Stealth CAmo, so I can get the Big Boss FaceCamo.

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Surfman - 553 days 10 hours ago

you never played loser, and MGS4 have the best replay-solo of all time.

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vega75 - 553 days 10 hours ago

dude i've played MGS since nintendo. both metal gear and snake revenge and so on. the only game i've not played is the one on psp. so i doubt i'm missing much. and the only loser is you and your comment.

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Mr Fancy Pants - 553 days 8 hours ago

look how pathetic fanboys are... trying to lie that they played MGS4 to have the privilege to criticize. WOW -_-

the fanboys of this site are so loooowwww.

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NO_PUDding - 553 days 12 hours ago

You obviously didn't.

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Kleptic - 553 days 5 hours ago

yeah you douche...you never even played it...it is pointless to only play it once...you get all your weapons back the second time through...there is no way to experience even half of the game in one play through...

you 360 fegtrons can try to downplay MGS4 all you want...it wrecks every other game this generation without breaking a sweat...Cliffy B. is righ thoug...Epic isn't trying to make a game with absolutely unmatched narrative...Epic isn't trying to make a game about the absolute hands-down most kick-ass soldier to ever grace gaming...

they are making a game with about a tenth of the production value, a tenth of the script, a tenth of the budget, and a tenth of the visual excellence...they are rushing a game because the 360's lineup looks funnier than a dude with an esshole for a mouth...they are making a game to address the millions of ADHD diagnosed 360 owners that won't pay attention unless blood is splattering everywhere...

they are failing at keeping up with this generation...you can give them credit for starting it off more or less...but on keeping up?...UE3 isn't capable of keeping up with where MGS4 has set the bar...simple as that...one easy route is to criticize it...

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liquidsnake - 552 days 18 hours ago

hahaha Kleptic, that has to be one of the funniest comments ever.

Did I mention that it's true as well.

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Surfman - 553 days 10 hours ago

haha you never played.

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juuken - 553 days 8 hours ago

You don't own a PS3 ya stupid inbreed.

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Commandant - 553 days 6 hours ago

When are you going to hit puberty man?

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Mwaan - 553 days 13 hours ago

If you really think about what he's saying, then no, he's not dissing Metal Gear. Some people just want to sit down and have fun, but those extended cutscenes could be really frustrating to somebody who just wants to kill stuff.

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captainjy - 553 days 12 hours ago

Scared of what? A boring game that is only a cult hit? The problem with MGS is that it's a really large box wrapped in really pretty paper all throughout, but there's a marble inside. Let me put it to you like this, if Gears of War was releasing on both consoles, you would buy it. If MGS came to the 360, I wouldn't waste my money. Says a lot.

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zethos56 - 553 days 12 hours ago

Let's see who would win in sales

MGS4 -
Less install base
Casual gamers probably won't enjoy
People who haven't played previous MGS games will be confused

Gears 2-
Bigger install base
Will be hyped to death by MS
Can be enjoyed by the average 15 year old who has never played a game with a deep story

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NO_PUDding - 553 days 12 hours ago

CAptianjy, you'd find the vast majority who have boguht Metal gear wouldn't buy Gears of War.

It's nothing.... And hyping it will kill it, becuase the screenshots are just showing how little it has evolved.

Gears of War, is wrapped up in a pretty box, but guess what's in there? A ping pong ball. Very little depth, weight and little creativity put into it.....

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NO_PUDding - 553 days 12 hours ago

Shame that's all you can do in Gears of War. You would have thoguht soemthing totally badass would involve a Rail Gun or soemthing.

You have like 4 weapons? Have fun, I have just boguht the lead ball rifle.

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Kraken - 553 days 12 hours ago

There was not a single good game on x360 when Gears was released(still ain't any good games out). PS2 had abundances, and MGS2 sold 7 million, I think. It's all about the hype.

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u got owned - 553 days 12 hours ago

@ Kraken

"There was not a single good game on x360 when Gears was released (still ain't any good games out)."

WOW you really are a blind fanboy in denial.

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Commandant - 553 days 5 hours ago

If you don't speak or know English well, don't write in it? Kinda simple. I'm not going to try and type Spanish...Because I don't know the language well.

@u got owned-I like though examples champ. I'm going to do your job for you...We have the internet. Yes, both of us. I found the date Gears was released on wikipedia, and then found a list of games that were available in 2006...

http://xbox.about.com/od/to...

Kraken is pretty much right about the games...Dead Rising, Rainbow Six, and Gears. Everything else is non-exclusive. (Which I don't consider)
Some people like 360's games...There pretty good. I like PS3 better. Games are ok, but it's Sony so you know it will...last.
MS...not so much.

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Mwaan - 553 days 12 hours ago

That comment went really well with your picture.

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The playa - 553 days 11 hours ago

Lmao just another 2 more days man, two more days.

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juuken - 553 days 10 hours ago

You can *gasp* skip the cutscenes! Wooooow, if MGS4 had NO gameplay whatsoever, then why did it receive so many 10's?

You're a retard dude, quit smoking your joints.

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nycredude - 552 days 16 hours ago

How the hell does that does that comment make any sense. According to you, then one cutscene in MGS4 is longer than halo 1, 2 and 3 and Gears 1 and 2 combined? You sound like an imbecile.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 553 days 12 hours ago

I'd buy that game!

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pwnsause - 553 days 12 hours ago

Snake would call him a rookie, CQC his chainsaw, and then kill him

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TheDeadMetalhead - 553 days 12 hours ago

Holy crap! That would be Marvel vs. Capcom all over again! Except everyone and their dead grandmother knows that MGS4 KICKS THE F$%^K OUT OF NG2, GEARS 2, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO TRIES TO CHALLENGE THEM!! MGS4 KICKS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!:)

But really, "passive entertainment? It's got to be a 360 fanboy. Anyone care to make a bet with me? $100 million says it's a 360 fanboy, lol :)

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