Metal Gear Online runs in 1080P

pharmd - 623 days 3 hours ago

yeah, ive known this since i dl it..... tv tells me what im resolution ANYTHING is being displayed at, and i was stoked to see 1080p in the corner when i started this baby up!!!!

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Statix - 623 days 2 hours ago

But is the 1080p upscaled, or is it true native 1080p? It might just be 720p or 960x1080 resolution upscaled to 1080p output, which is not the same thing.

People at Beyond3D need to start counting the pixels of this game to find out if it's truly running in full 1080p (which I kind of doubt, because there are only a handful of games that run in that resolution on the PS3).

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barom - 622 days 23 hours ago

I hate to be the party pooper but that's who I am. It might very well be that the menu runs at 1080p and the game doesn't. I do hope that it's true though.

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jmare - 622 days 23 hours ago

I know this is off topic but, does anyone still need an MGO beta key? Pm me and it's yours.

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scottie2521 - 622 days 16 hours ago

i said this days ago

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issa3032 - 623 days 4 hours ago

Yeah this game may be 960x1080p native resolution but then it doubles pixels in the horizontal direction to achieve 1920x1080p. This is how Gran Turismo 5 Prologue achieves 1920x1080p with 60fps. Keep in mind that PS3 has a confirmed horizontal upscaler. This is an achievement nonetheless because 960x1080p is 15% higher resolution than native 720P.

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Marceles - 623 days 4 hours ago

Real talk

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sonarus - 623 days 3 hours ago

Well i really don't care for 1080p. I'm cool with it running at 720p. As long as it isn't 640p:p

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drewdrakes - 623 days 2 hours ago

If no one has pixel counted it, then you cant really take it as 1080p. Not that it matters, because right now you think its 1080p and then someone comes out and says its really not, does that information really change how good it looks? Just enjoy the game, who cares.

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Statix - 623 days 2 hours ago

960x1080 isn't really that great of a resolution. It's about the same number of pixels as 720p (1280x720), just a little more. Certainly, it's not as good as full 1080p.

GT5:P is about halfway between 720p and 1080p with its 1280x1080p resolution.

I would love to see MGS4 and MGO run in native 1920x1080p, or even 1280x1080p, but I highly doubt that's the case.

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Glad to be a gamer - 622 days 20 hours ago

I ended up getting a 32" 720p/1080i 100hz tv due to it being a perfect size for my room and after researching a bit.

Cnet had a reviews on 1080p and 120hz and their benefits. They said that 1080p is only really beneficial on screens bigger than 50" unless your sitting closer than 1 1/2 the screen size due to the human eye perception. I also found Games magazines stating that the diff between the two resolutions is small/negligble to the humane eye.

The 100hz tech basically adds an extra frame between the normal 2 per ? This reduces the effect of blurring while watching sport or fast moving scenes. It works really great but some people may like the motion blur you get in action scenes but for sport its a great feature to have.

What do you think from your experiences on the diff between 1080i and 1080p when playing games?

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Rob4Vendetta - 623 days 3 hours ago

the servers dont stand a chance...there are going to be lots of news of people complaining about lag and that they cant get online...this thing is going to be massive

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jkhan - 623 days 3 hours ago

Well ps3 is just too young for that, wait till a couple of years and you will see alot more games clocking 1080p/60fps.

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Apocalypse Shadow - 623 days 3 hours ago

and 720p is not the "sweet spot" because microsoft said so.

but why not have 1080p/60fps when you can if the dev can achieve it?

megaton....

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Statix - 623 days 2 hours ago

I don't see 1080p@60hz happening; not even next-gen will it be the "sweet spot." You're gonna have to sacrifice a LOT of graphical quality to get a game to run at either 1080p or 60fps ALONE, let alone both together.

To put it into perspective, a game like Uncharted only runs at 720p@30hz, and that game is pushing the PS3 pretty hard. People are being too optimistic if they expect a ton of games to run at 60 fps in the future.

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kewlkat007 - 623 days 1 hour ago

"I just want smooth running games without framerate issues."

This has nothing to do with Microsoft but as most fanboys do, always have to bring up BS, to feel better about their console of choice.

I'm certain 1080p @60 frames will not be the trend this gen. Yeah it's feasible with some games and in other games a lot is sacrificed, so it's not worth it.

If I recalled PS3 stated all their games were going to run in such fashion. Which was all BS marketing. Not really needed. 720P @30FPS running on a 1080P set, while being smooth as butta is fine with me.

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Lord_Ash - 623 days 1 hour ago

Statix if I'm not mistaken Ratchet runs at a solid 60 FPS here is the producer quoted answering a question on the PS blog:

"60fps and 720p is the preferred hi-res resolution. However, we do support 1080i so everyone with a HDTV can enjoy RCF:ToD in all it’s hi-def glory"

so if they can achieve a solid 60 FPS with such beautiful graphics in a year of the PS3 life maybe just maybe 4 years from now they can achieve 1080p @ 60FPS.

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Statix - 622 days 22 hours ago

Ratchet is a great looking 60hz game, that I agree with you. But you have to understand that 1080p is TWICE the pixel resolution of 720p. That's a LOT of extra pixels to render, and a big performance drainer. I don't really see the PS3 achieving more or less two times the rendering performance of Ratchet, at least not in the near future.

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Lord_Ash - 622 days 14 hours ago

You’re right about doubling the pixels, but what I’m saying is that the PS3 is still young to really know, the jump between the early games on the PS2 like FF X and MGS 2 and the latest games like FF XII, MGS 3 and God of War was huge, I’m willing to give the PS3 the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway I’m waiting to see if the DigiGuys (Wardevil) can achieve what they promise in their engine (1080P @ 60, real time or something like that.

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Kojima touches kids - 623 days 2 hours ago

You read that on here. Lots of people make random statements with no evidence on this site.

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Drekken - 623 days 3 hours ago

probably from the menu.... Menus of games usually run @ same rez as the game

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jackdoe - 623 days 3 hours ago

I'm pretty sure P2P. Generally, you don't need dedicated servers unless you hit 32 players and up (ie, Resistance which hits 40 players and has dedicated servers).

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Adamalicious - 623 days 3 hours ago

I'm pretty sure it's dedicated servers. When you try to log in right now it tells you that you can't connect to the server. Also, the previous MGO from Subsistence was dedicated.

I can't find any concrete info on it so who knows.

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jackdoe - 623 days 3 hours ago

Dedicated servers for 16 players isn't cost effective. But who knows I suppose.

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Adamalicious - 623 days 3 hours ago

The Beta doesn't start until Monday so we can't play until then.

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fenderputty - 623 days 3 hours ago

beta come monday. I would hope so at least. I'm really interested in see how the online component works for this game.

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issa3032 - 623 days 3 hours ago

Great question!! I presume it's because the person responsible for the store just "assumed" it was 720P as most games are.

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Statix - 623 days 2 hours ago

It might mean that the game is only 720p UPSCALED to 1080p, not true 1080p native.

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LiQuiFiedArt - 623 days 2 hours ago

Just because someone "Believes" the game to be 960x1080 doesnt mean its fact. Wait until someone does a REAL hardware test, before you believe what some random guy in a forum thought was possible. If you went through the entire forum you'd know he had no Proof. He was just assumed cause it "Seemed" to be H-Scaled. Why not 1280x1080??? exactly!! you dont know. so shut it.

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issa3032 - 623 days 2 hours ago

Sorry I think you misunderstood. The game native resolution MAY be 1080 vertical resolution and 960 horizontal resolution and then the horizontal pixels are doubled via upsscaling to 1920. So technically it is still 1080P :)

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bpmurr - 623 days 1 hour ago

Technically it's not 1080P. 1080P implies there is a 1920 vertical resolution going along with the 1080 horizontal resolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

With that said I have MG4 on preorder and will download the beta soon to check it out. I just get tired of people throw terms around that aren't right. Probably the same people that called NES games "tapes".

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issa3032 - 623 days 2 hours ago

Use the peer to peer download option rather than the HTTP option. This will start out really slow but gradually pick up speed like Bitorrent :)

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Alcaponedyou - 623 days 4 hours ago

purchase a PS3 because it is the best choice for your dollar.

(I'm implying xbots are stupid because they bought a 360lol)

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GiantEnemyCrab - 623 days 3 hours ago

Tell that to the 1080p native games on the 360 Dark fishhead.

I see you are back to spread your lies.

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DomUltra - 623 days 3 hours ago

Lol there is no such thing as native 1080p on Xbox 1.5 dumbshit Ahah hilarious, it is all upscaled, get the hell out.

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heyheyhey - 623 days 3 hours ago

@Crabman

what? Virtua Tennis 3, Fifa Street 3 and Table Tennis

big success

@ambientFLIER

i didnt say the 360 couldnt do 1080p native

the point is that the only games that do that are the games i mentioned above

the only good game out of those 3 is Virtua Tennis

i know 360 fanboys like to argue EVERYTHING, but you have to amdit- its kinda hard to argue that the PS3 has a better selection of native 1080p sofware

Ridge Racer 7, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, GT5:p and all the PSN games

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ambientFLIER - 623 days 3 hours ago

There are a few native 1080p games on the 360 that are not upscaled. Try harder, moron. The point is not how many games there are, but the fact that it can do it...while ps3 idiots are claiming that it can't for some reason with no proof.

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Varsarus - 623 days 3 hours ago

hmm, considering fifa street 3, table tennis and virtua tennis don't really push the system, so probably the 360 is just about capable of using 1080p native for them games, but not intense games that REALLY pushes both systems, the ps3 is the only one that's capable of doing it 1080p native. That latest Haze screenshot was at 1920 x 1080, so 1080p ftw?

@GiantEnemyCrab

"It's up to the devs to make 1080p native game but the 360 can and does do it"

Then explain why Halo 3 is at 640p, it was purely optimized for the 360 and Bungie was a then 1st party developer for Microsoft!

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DomUltra - 623 days 2 hours ago

Virtua Tennis 3, Fifa Street 3 and Table Tennis,

AmbientFlier you sure are a dumb ḟuck.

Alot of Xbox 1.5. games say 1080p on the back how many of them actually are? Lol like none, Halo 3 was what again oh thats right 640p, it's upscaled buddy get your head our your ass.

Unlike what is happening on the Xbox 360 game boxes, Sony doesn’t advertise 1080p on the back of game boxes unless it is a truly native 1080p title.

To be fair though GOTY CoD4 is only 600p for both systems upscaled 720p.

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GiantEnemyCrab - 623 days 2 hours ago

This guy says the 360 can't run 1080p native games and I correct him and you know I'm right. Now you want to argue semantics?

What you feel isn't a graphic intensive blah blah blah.

It's up to the devs to make 1080p native game but the 360 can and does do it.

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DomUltra - 622 days 23 hours ago

Isn't it sad fishhead when Halo 3 is in 640p, upscaled? Microsofts flagship title isn't even true HD, pathetic.

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ambientFLIER - 622 days 18 hours ago

Not as sad as all those games running so much worse on the more powerful PS3 than the Xbox 360.

You were proven wrong, so you must bash something else now to retain your dignity. Lol. ZOMG HALO 640PPPPP POS3 RULLZ

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heyheyhey - 623 days 3 hours ago

wrong article?

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issa3032 - 623 days 2 hours ago

No I think he means that Kojima has just come out and said he pushed the PS3 and the Cell processor to the max and he still wasn't able to achieve what he wanted graphically. So I think he's just saying that Kojima must be very demanding if 1080P graphics don't please him fully.

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heyheyhey - 623 days 2 hours ago

wrong article too?

dont worry, you didnt look THAT stupid.....

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eagle21 - 623 days 1 hour ago

This game will outsell them both COMBINED fan nut! You bots get weirder by the day. Must be all that fan and jet engine noise! :)

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DomUltra - 622 days 23 hours ago

By comparison, not even selling 2 million sounds like horse piss now doesn't it buddy? I mean 20 million consoles, not even 2 million for heavy hitter exclusives, and keep dreaming Icefag, Splinter Cell sucks.

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ambientFLIER - 622 days 18 hours ago

No. What would the resolution have to do with the storage media? Virtua Tennis on the Xbox is 1080p on a normal DVD disk.

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