PS3 UT III Cross Platform Play

According to Mark Rein from Epic Games, the PC and PS3 versions of Unreal Tournament 3 will be cross platform enabled.

In addition to this cross platform question, PSU asked Rein if the PS3 would be the only console to support cross platform play for the UTIII title, the answer was that they "seem to believe so."

Now UT III has cross platform play, including mouse and keyboard support thanks to the beautifully crafted FragFx. PSU can't wait to see the mayhem of PS3 players and PC players duking it out this coming November.

[achira]

wow awesome! cant wait to play ut3. thank you epic, nice job!
marinlife9: why should it not be free ? i mean its not microsoft! when something similar from ms will come you have surely to pay.

[marinelife9]

Do you mean PS3 users and PC users can play together for free! What a novel concept. Who thinks this stuff up??

[Marona]

http://forums.epicgames.com...

Read Flak's post.

[Honeal2g]

what would happen if 360 version did indeed follow the footstep(huge feet may i add) of sony ...would that allow 360 and ps3 users to ever play together ..and i dont care wat anyone says that would be siiiiiick

[Marona]

I'm not too sure, but I think that would violate the rules on Xbox LIVE & Windows LIVE. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

Microsoft will have to share a few servers with Epic in order for that to happen since UT3(Pc) won't be running on MS's own server.

Now I know for sure PlayStation 3 & Xbox 360 can't happen as they will most likely host their own to share with the Pc, I still have doubts Xbox 360 will even be able to have Mods & Cross-Platform like the PS3&Pc(Which is yet to be confirmed).

[Marceles]

"Now UT III has cross platform play, including mouse and keyboard support thanks to the beautifully crafted FragFx"

Uh...now that there's mouse and keyboard support we don't even need FragFX right?

[Azures]

I'll still be using FragFX because of how odd it would be to use a keyboard/mouse combo when playing a console (which is usually from my bed or the couch at my friend's place). The FragFX allows much more mobility.

[NoUseMerc]

PSU confirms that the PS3 will be the only console with cross platform multiplayer with PC.

Woohoo for PS3!

[TriggerHappy]

If you follow the link to the official PSU site, it links you back to the official UT forums where Mark Rein post a comment about Keyboard and mouse functionality for the PS3.
http://utforums.epicgames.c...

Mark Rein:
"Cross platform play isn't decided yet. Please keep this thread about keyboard and mouse for PS3. There are other threads on cross platform."
http://utforums.epicgames.c...

It would be nice to see this come true but unless Mark Rein confirms this to a more REPUTABLE source, i call BS on this.

EDIT:PSU = Lame. What they are doing is "SPECULATING", they don't confirm jack.

EDIT2: OWNAGE - http://www.n4g.com/industry...

[TnS]

Does PSU talked with Rein or it is based on the forum posts?
If the former, why the forum is listed as source?

[Lumbo]

i don't see "seems to believe to" as confirmation, but the issue would be something different anyways, cause can you believe how people would feel if they had to play from their pay2play platform on other consoles against the people from PC and PS3 that play4free ?

+ network interoperationality is not wanted from Microsoft, hence they made their own niche system for PC aka "life4windows" to strictly regulate what is coming to the life network.

[gEnKiE]

...well theirs no reason that the 360 version cant do the whole cross platform thing. so im sure we will be hearing the same thing for the 360 version as it rolls around. their probaly just putting the 360 version on hold for the moment untill next year....but this is awesome news for the ps3. :)

[Lord Anubis]

UT3 for pc wont run on windows live making things complicated.

@below

It has a lot to do with it.Since Microsoft dislikes not having control of the servers it makes things interesting.

[WilliamRLBaker]

not running on windows live has nothing to do with any thing.
Let alone they could easily make it cross platformed by allowing server browsing and such in the 360 vesion, the fact it wont (strike that ITs not made to run on windows live) has nothing to do with no 360 cross platforming.

about the only thing keeping this from happening is controller to key/mouse gameplay.

[shysun]

PC owners don't want to Pay to play against 360 owners.PC vs PS3=free,now thats a great deal!:)

[SofaKingReetodded]

talk about a kick in the nuts to "games for windows live" hahahahaha

the industry hates you MS, wake up and smell the red rings.

[LSDARBY]

bubble for you lol

on topic i thiknk this is mint if it does turn out to be true

[Pika-pie]

LOL - Good one

[Pika-pie]

This is awesome, I really hope its true!

Im gonna have to sort myself out with a mouse for the PS3 otherwise PC players will have too much of an advantage. Im a bit slow with the analogue but I PWN with a mouse.

[macalatus]

Yup. That means a whole lot of players online!!

[krackchap]

EPIC BETRAYAL
edit:xbots disagree with me for what?epic betraying you guys get a life

[Bathyj]

Its M$ that betrayed Epic by nickle and dimeing Xbox players for every little extra thing. That not Epic's way and never has been and I think its the reason PS3 get UT3 first. They dont seem to worried about the Xbox version at all. Its Epics way of saying, you can push us Microsoft, but we can push back too.

[xhi4]

Epic = Smart

[CaliGamer]

Does LIVE really limit developers like that? I had no idea LIVE was so restricting. I wonder if moves like this will force MS to ease up on their control issues with their online component.
I have to admit I am a bit ignorant about the difference between the PSN and Live, but if this turns out to be true this could bring Sony to a much wider audience because with this and mouse and keyboard support we could see a lot of hardcore PC gamers choose a $600 PS3 over a $2000 PC. Not to mention that unless I am mistaken, UT has been one of the standards for FPS tournaments for a while now so that too will add to the PS3's appeal.
Just a thought but I guess we need conformation first.
I played UT a long time ago but never owned it, I might have to pick it up tho, sounds like they are putting a lot into their product.

[WilliamRLBaker]

mouse and keyboard with UT on ps2...but it didn't convert many PC gamers, as for that Live isn't that restrictive, It has a set rules and if devs follow them then they can make amazing online games, Which is shown by the sheer ammount of users, and scores games have received because of their live functionality.

[CaliGamer]

However, given your sorted past with positive PS3 news, mainly involving you arriving with the sole purpose of detract from a story or to do damage control for your console of choice, I will have to take what you say with a grain of salt.
Not to mention you did not answer my question fully but actually bolstered my initial notion that Live has restrictions imposed by MS that might end up limiting developers in the future when you said, "Live isn't that restrictive, It has a set rules and if devs follow them then they can make amazing online games...". Key word set rules, and my question was does the PSN not have those rules in place and if not does that give game developers more freedom. Not to mention that Mods will be available on the PS3 and is still up in the air for the 360 if I'm not mistaken.
Also of note is your comment "you could use
mouse and keyboard with UT on ps2...but it didn't convert many PC gamers". That seems like a very ill thought out comment as the PS2 didn't have a very good online component, and furthermore, if the game was online compatible at all (I can't recall), and the graphics at that point were not comparable to the PC then PC owners did not have any incentive to purchase the PS2 version now did they, nor was their any PC vs. PS3 capabilities so I fail to see your point there.
So again thanks for your comment, but I fear that after reading it I came to two conclusions 1)I now have the idea that I understand more about this than I lead myself to believe initially,and 2)I don't really take well to people trying to appease me with low brow explanations that don't truly answer my question and are saturated with blatant bias and no substance.

[WilliamRLBaker]

yes my sorted past *laughs hard*

LOL Sept one that it doesn't give Devs more freedom, It keeps them from creating an amazing game based upon an all ready establihed system, All sony does it this....we have online, do whatever you want, charge for it, create dedicated servers, or whatever, do whatever you want we dont care.

Where as with Xbox live, There is an established system, And devs literally dont have to build there own system like they do with PSN.

P.S: (UT ps2 had no online play, the dreamcast version did though)

P.P.S: you obviously dont follow much if you didn't know I own all 3 systems, and actually take part in an negative way in all news posts, including, 360 rumors, and ps3 rumors.

P.P.P.S: The appeal means nothing, Since this is a weak confirmation at best..."seem to believe so." really...why not just say yes? unless its not true, As for that 360 is geting the game, and will have online, on an superior system then psn.

P.P.P.P.S: as for my Comment before this it was neither biased nor baseless, If Live is so damn restrictive to devs then why does it have 6m+ users, and why have so many games with live functionality gotten scores of 8-9+. Thats the only proof you need in the gaming world, SALEs, and Game scores.

Oh by the way, you have no idea what your talking about if you think ps3 UT3 will get HARD CORE PC Gamers to buy that system and that game instead of the PC version. Firstly you dont know what your talking about cause it doesn't cost 2000 dollars to build a computer that can or could play UT3, atmost 1000 dollars is all you need. 2nd The PC version will all ways look better this is proven, time, and time, and time and time and time and again, And being a HARD CORE pc gamer means they aren't gonna just drop the pc for one game...
This goes for the 360 version as well, I'll be geting the PC version.

[The Wood]

calli's got a point. I have both a pc and a ps3 and will get the ps3 1 not just because of the price of upspeccing my pc but because my plasma has no pc input or dvi input so i get to play UT3 on my 43" which for me was the biggest deal clincher personally.

Your comment about the ps2 is weak because the graphics and speed on UT weren't close to the pc version

And calli is right about your comments. You have nothing good to say about sony or the ps3 so id be taking more than a grain of salt when I see your comments.

[xhi4]

PC VS. PS3 MAYHEMM.

It seems the ps3 is being realised as a supercomputer and is being linked with the pc. Soon who knows, it may be for some titles like PC and PS3 vs. 360, in the battle for exclusives...who knows.

[Genki]

otherwise I'll be getting OWNED all day long. This is just fantastic, expands the userbase by an exponential rate! Shouldn't be as difficult to find games with the millions that are sure to soak this up on the PC.

Looks to be a good Christmas this year, nice.

[SofaKingReetodded]

This means the PS3 version will have a TON of mods and maps, damn now I really to upgrade my PS3 to a 500GB HDD.

[Bombomb]

What will happen when PC gamers start cheating and doing all kinds of crazy sh!t? Remember this is the PC, a very open architecture, were talking about.

As we know Windows Live Gaming and "XBL" are much more restricted, which can be a good and bad thing but I rather the tighter security, and the BAN options for cheaters. As well Linux on PS3 is very open too, as far as user doing their own Mods and stuff.

Anyhow besides that, this is a great move by EPIC if everything works out alright.

Watch for gamers that start doing crazy sh!t on there. You'll know what platform they are on. Yes you'll need a Keyboard. UT is a fast paced FPS, no time for stragglers. You will be own by a Mouse and Keyboard, if you don't own one.

[SofaKingReetodded]

will come with two different compilers for PC and PS3 versions of maps and mods. How this will affect hacks is anyone's guess as I doubt non industry types will have any substantial knowledge of cell programming.

[dauden]

What happens when you yourself play on a pc and other players do crazy sh!t (cheat)?
Would you also download a hack so that you could be on the same level? Meh...

I would change to another server.
Besides, it makes perfect sense to have both "PS3 only" servers as well as these cross platform servers. The few players that choose to play with the sixaxis doesn't want to play against a keyboard and mouse.

As for your last sentence: I'm pretty sure most of the people on these forums already own a keyboard and mouse. :]

[DiLeCtioN]

so why cant they do it for gears on pc...lol its difficult coding but they can do it for urt 3.

[Bombomb]

The reason was..

"The PC build kept going with the [Unreal Engine 3] engine code, as opposed to using the Xbox 360 Gears of War code base. Over time, it gradually lost compatibility", Epic's VP Mark Rein explained to CVG when we caught up with him in Brighton last week.

"It would take a humungous patch on the Xbox 360 side to make that possible, or not using the newer, more optimised code base on the Windows side. It just didn't work out."

Rein explained that code base incompatibility is also the reason it's very unlikely that the Gears of War content Epic has created exclusively for PC will ever release for Xbox 360. "

Basically updated Engine code.

Gears of War = Old Engine Code
UT3 = New Engine code(hence the newer game)

That's all there is to it. I'm sure if MS wanted, they could pay EPIC for all their troubles and man hours for anew Patch but with Halo 3 coming out to steal the thunder and XBL bandwith, it's not worth it. Gear of War 2 will be 4-player co-op and cross platform. You bet.

[T_Tokyo2010]

Only question is: Can a person on a console outgun a person on a PC?
It's gonna be great to find out.

[solidt12]

As long as you use the mouse and keyboard on the PS3 you are on the same playing fieled as the PC users and can out gun them.

[WilliamRLBaker]

because with faster refresh rates and better graphics, better throughput and the abbility to tweak their computers beyond what a ps3 or xbox 360 an do. the pc gamer will all ways have the advantage regardless of key/mouse use or not.

[DrPirate]

16.2

I have yet to see the day when better graphics = more skill

[Azures]

Actually the console versions of the game has a lock-on assist for controllers, subtle but useful. Couple that with FragFX and you can outgun a PC user no problem.

[Dragonopolis]

than me when it comes to online FPS. Even though he can run at 1080p on his nice computer he doesn't. The reason he runs in a lower resolution is that it increases his framerates. Framerates is the only advantage PC gamers will have over consoles, but it isn't a nail in the coffin.

Basically, I confirming DrPirate said above that Better graphics doesn't necessarily mean better gamer.

PS3 FPS Gamers rejoice.

[Vash_The_Stampede]

Glad to see them taking advantage of the FREE online service that comes with the PS3. Mark Rein is a Genius!!

[solidt12]

Im gonna get the FragFx but im gonna wait to til the game comes out beacause there may be a bundle.

[J@D]

Good news and it's official. This gonna be huge indeed like I just to said the more the merrier.

[alexander22rednaxela]

The difficulty level will be extremly punisingly unfair if you use the controller.

[Lumbo]

Mark already stated that they managed to get it fair for both controller and keyb/mouse users. This is the main reason this was allowed in the first place.

[bootsielon]

Schmames for Windows. So much for that, right Microsoft?

[Odion]

where does it say this, i just looked through all 7 pages and no where does it say anything about PC and PS3 users playing together

[Agriel]

I guess PSU had a Q&A with Mark Rein, they do a lot of interviews with devs and such.

[Munky]

That is the problem with this site, people do not read the articles. They comment on the the articles that have titles with the most shock value. Sad really.

[Lumbo]

I wondered myself about that, until i read the gamespot newspost.

It seems gamespot combined teh E3 info that x-platform play is possible and Keyb/mouse support into

"Keyb/mouse support and crossplatform gaming confirmed"

I will stay with Marks statement that it is NOT YET decided

[TriggerHappy]

Whiles am all for the cross platform play of UT3 on PS3 and PC, Mark Rein has not confirmed anything as of yet.

Mark Rein:
"Cross platform play isn't decided yet. Please keep this thread about keyboard and mouse for PS3. There are other threads on cross platform."
http://utforums.epicgames.c...

[ShiftyLookingCow]

I bet most PS3 and for that matter 360 players will forget UT3 in about a year(mods will increase it a little longer for PS3), that wont be the case for PC.

[Lumbo]

Don't make me laugh, UT was always all about the mods for the game on PC. The original game went less, the mods still strife.

Check the amount of UT (UT2000) players that play the original gamemodes and the amount that, even today, play mods like TacticalOps, ChaosUT and Strikeforce. Same with UT2004, lotsa mods around that keep the game going like TO:Crossfire and RedOrchestra (went full game after it won the MSUC contest hold by Epic and Nvidea)

http://mods.moddb.com/?sear...

Take a ride through moddb to find something for every taste, sometimes you can't even find the original UT look anymore cause the mod made it a completely new game. I predict that UT3 mods will be the homebrew platform for the PS3, as the tools are cheap (simply buy the game...) , the possibilities are endless, and the license fee is ZERO.

(PS: i am unsure if i misunderstood your last sentence, so feel free to point your meaning out to me cause it seemed to me you said that mods are of no interest for UT3 PC/PS3 )

[ShiftyLookingCow]

I meant most console players would probably stop playing UT3 in about a year after they buy it. It will last many years on the PC in comparison. Mods for PS3 are surely going to help it last longer but I doubt it will come close to PC.

[Maldread]

This should be fun. With keyboard and mouse support, the advantage of the PC players should be less, although some of the console users will probably have to invest in a table to have the mouse and keyboard on, if they have the console in their room like me hehe.

All that remains now is to speed up the PS3-versions gameplay speed i guess, which you might be able to do with the game when it ships anyway (you could alter the speed with UT on PS2),

[gnothe1]

you guys act as if the 360 an PC CANT play together. as a matter of fact the 360 did it FIRST!! ever heard of SHADOWRUN, that game wasnt that great but it did cross play non the less. so dont act like the PS3 an PSN is this great service like no other!!

[xhi4]

xbot much? Anyway, the reason why there will probably be no cross platform with PC and 360 is because of the rigid strict guideline of live. UT 3 would have to be compatible with windows LIVE service for this to be possible......which it isn't. The reason why the psn is better in this regard is because of its open architecture. Plus its free, Epic likes that free user content support etc. They can't do that with LIVE.

[iballa]

why is this story under news for xbox 360????

[cloud360]

No ps3 fan dont wanna play with 360 fans. so tell em all to go fack themselves

[xg-ei8ht]

Live much more restricted, are you having a laugh.

Gears of war has ppl aimbotting,wallhacking. Same sh^t you see on pc's.

There is no system you cant hack if you want to.

[Bathyj]

Nice. I cant wait to get my arse handed to me by a PC gamer. C'mon Frag FX, where are you?

Also to all those PC gamers, start working on the mods boys.

[Bill Gates]

This is just another GREAT treat for us SMART PS3 gamers. I'm willing to bet the 3FixMe version will NEVER ALLOW for this...AAHAHHAhAHA

[BadTaste]

Shadowrun.

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

great news bill! your almost at one bubble again! congrats!

HAHAAHahaahaHAHAHAHhahaha...H AHA

[tony]

mouse and keyboard has an advantage over joystick. how are they going to balance the multiplayer? i know you will be able to use mouse and keyboard on the ps3 , but not many gamers that play ps3 like to play with keyboard and mouse. hopefully they do something to balance the mouse advantage that the pc has.

[Alcohog]

That is....awesome.

[PS360WII]

Well "seems to believe so" is a bit vague for me. If it is true though I'm even happier of my pre-order of this on the PS3.

[BIadestarX]

I think this is great news for PS3 gamers... they will be able to experience what cross-platform is like... not long ago Sony fanboys were batching at the idea of playing against PC gamers... keyboard... vs controllers... bla bla... nice to see a change of heart once a game that support certain features is released for the console they love.

Obviously Epic have the money and resources to bring cross-patform between PC and console... I think is good to remind people that there is no technical reason why the same can't be done with the xbox 360. Epic could add support to Games for windows.... which is a sandbox that also protects your console against hackers etc... Honesly I think this is a good thing... Epic is really exploiting all posiblities with the PS3... allowing PC generated content to run on the PS3 (Maps editor stuff) and also direct communication between PS3 and any PC... obviously this entire PC <-> PS3 is all done by Epic... Sony does not have any "Games for windows" system in place.. and no sandbox... which Epic loves... no restrictions... I'm sure Microsoft is keeping an eye on what happends to the PS3 from now on... and honesly I am thankful... I rather wait to see how this unfold... if Epic can just connect their games between PC and PS3 without any restrictions, run PC generated content on the PS3... mmm.. lots of door for hackers to explore... Who knows, maybe the cell is that smart and have built-in auto updateable anti-virus/hacker stuff that can tell when something shouldnt be execututed or the difference between a cacker and a dev...
I rather wait.. and test with PS3 gamers.... I buy games on the marketplace and movies... I enter credit card information... last thing I need is to wakeup one day.. and have $8 in my bank account.

[PS360WII]

I'm sure MS is still trying to get the PC vs 360 cross plat for this game. Just think how aweseome that would be! We would have PS3 vs PC vs 360! The first game that would allow different consoles to play with each other!

But yea we'll see if hacks are going to be made just for the PS3 from the PC version of UTIII.

[Kleptic]

Yeah you point it out yourself Bladestar...

this same Mark Rein was the one speaking for Epic when announcing that they would not be supporting Games for Windows Live...he mentioned it bringing the same closed environment of XBL to the PC, which is great for some applications, and bad for theirs...

this is a trend coming from a lot of the more well known PC developers...I think most devs that embrace Games for Windows Live will be first party/3rd party 360 developers that are simultaneously releasing a PC version of the game...however the "older" PC developers generally are not agreeing with its layout yet...John Carmack stated that Rage most likely will not even be Vista only, let alone support Games for Windows Live...his quotes centered around "it is normal for MS to launch something that is crap at first, then over the years end up making it better than their comp."...that pertaining to more than just Live, but went on to say how DX10 isn't entirely necessary yet also...

but that is not to say that these older developers are all just going with the PSN instead...Carmack has slightly fell away from his original dislike of the PS3's archictecture (because nearly everything is multi-core now), but still believes "it is not worth it" to squeeze a PS3's hardware all the way yet...

Epic is the only one that is basically making a full blown PC shooter on a console so far...the PS3 version, aside from some resolution/graphical differences, will offer everything the PC version does...something that has NEVER happened on any console yet...and as of now, the PSN is the only console environment that supports exactly what made PC gaming so great when franchises like Unreal started up...MS will have to completely change their stance in order for the same to happen on the 360...XBL simply isn't that type of service...which some people don't mind I guess, and some people really do...

[getupahh]

I would love to see PS3 vs 360 vs pc!!!

[timmyp53]

i dont care if you disagree but i will own pc gamers X)

[fresco]

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[ASSASSYN 36o]

Jumping to conclusions is normal for sony droids. Nobody said this game is playable on pc and ps3. Nobody!

[darthv72]

The 360 version is rumored to include cross platform play as well. SO if it works out you could play against PC and PS3 players as well.

[BLACKJACK VII]

More Propoganda.

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

[Armyless]

I need to insist that the console versions supply scalable effects and graphics to give console players the ability to maximize their framerate as needed. PC users have always enjoyed the ability to customize gameplay vs graphics to help their frag-rate.

[rbanke]

Why is the FragFX mentioned? As far as I knew, a standard keyboard and mouse would work with this game. This makes it sound as if you need a fragfx for that sort of interaction. (Id prefer a real keyboard and mouse to a fragfx mouse)

[Lumbo]

Surprise surprise

Seems psu.com likes to sneakily change newstexts to fit their wishes.
The new texts reads as follows:

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PS3 UT III To Have Cross Platform Play
Posted on August 7th, 2007 at 03:24 EDT

According to Mark Rein from Epic Games, the PC and PS3 versions of Unreal Tournament 3 have the possibility of being enabled for cross platform play.

To what extent this will be included, still remains a mystery.

Now UT III makes for a complete experience, including mouse and keyboard support thanks to the beautifully crafted FragFx. PSU can't wait to see the mayhem of PS3 players and PC players duking it out this coming November, however it is implemented.
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I hate "newssites" that change an already posted "story" without a notice that it has been changed since beeing published. It kicks comments out of context and muddles the whole business up. Better just place an "update" text below, if you are man enough to come clean that is ...

[TheExecutive]

COD:4 needs to do this. then I can die a happy man.

[KeMoBLUE]

man we get to create and enjoy cool mods. we have mouse and keyboard support AND we get PC/PS3 cross-play not to mention our version releases this year. wwwaaaahooooooooooo. 360 fanboys are still trying to hold on to hope that the 360 version will do the same LMAO..................no

[Xanatos]

Hmm ive never played a UT except 2k4 and i really enjoyed it, but i see a lot of people here bashing 2k4 and all so I was just wondering what makes 2k4 so bad compared to the rest? thx

[PStriple703]

is gonna suck!

[atomdooze]

it looks better than ps3 version. Fact i am happy for u ps3 owners this game looks to be real nice.
ya i said it im happy for u i used to be a ps fanboy myself and really missed out on the resident evils when ps2 came out i would like to see all game go multi platform.

[mintrieri]

but this rumor has been debunked. Go read the article titled "Rumour Crushing: Unreal III Not Cross Platform" or just read this:

"We'll also allow people to choose whether or not they want to allow mixed controller vs. keyboard/mouse games or not."
Some 'sources' have now managed to morph this into the 'fact' that Unreal Tournament III will be cross-platform PS3 and PC.
Strange, because at 4.29pm on the same day, Rein actually pointed out that: "Cross platform play isn't decided yet."

[Yosking]

I can play Unreal on a ps3 with cutting-edge next gen graphics with a keyboard and mouse and even better against my friend who owns a pc.

...there comes a time when a fanboy is proud and can put his head up about something he deserves...LONG LIVE PLAYSTATION 3!

[lil bush]

no this should be good

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Its just one of those rumors because ooops gears of war is croos platform and ooops unreal tournament will be but ooops Sony cant go cross platform but it will be a free peice of crap. so ooops. M$ owns the world unless sony gets a deal with macintosh.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

macintosh couldnt care less about ps3 fake gamers. they are so lame reading and spreading a rumor site' s message to other depressed gamers

[ngg12345]

Don't have to upgrade my computer to play ut3 against pc players. Now I don't have to play with the noobs who use controllers instead of mouse and keyboard.

[Dragonopolis]

you got a lot of homework to do..... Now we are talking retail here folks not build it youself. Most people who are buying consoles for gaming probably don't build their computers either. Matter of fact most average consumers don't build their own gaming machines.

So lets go look at a Retail store that will probably attract the cost conscious gamer. Hmmm. BestBuy Nope! Fry's nope. They carry computers that could probably run a 1080p PC game with the card but if you look closely you will see they don't try to sell a 1080p monitor with that PC

Why is that?

After all, the 30" 1080p (1920x1080) monitor is only $200 to $300 dollars more than the 1680x1050 monitor

For one, It looks better price wise and gets that computer closer to the magical $1000 price.

Second, they aren't stupid. These companies no they are selling low end equipment and most of these computers below the $1500 threshold won't run anything very well at 1920 x 1080 (1080p) other than movies but consumers still haven't accepted Televisions for PC like they have with consoles and probably won't plug the PC into their TV. Also just because the graphic card can output at 1080p or above doesn't mean that Gaming can be achieved at that level.

I believe Frys had a one computer that was over $1400 that could game at 1080p but that price is without a monitor. It was a Quad CPU with one of Nvidia's new DirectX Midrange Graphic Cards. It only had one PCI-e 16x but it was a very nice machine for the price. Fry's had a 30in LCD Viewsonic hook up to it that was a very nice monitor(could have even been a TV). The computer also came equiped with a HD DVD Drive (which may or may not impress you depending on your choice of format).

Now take that computer and the price of the monitor and your looking over $2000.

Of course you could be the lucky one that has a Newer HDTV that comes with a DVI specific computer connection (yes you can convert but it is better to have a dedicated connection and a TV/Monitor specifically built for PCs.

You still have to add your TV into the cost. Lets say you bought a HDTV that does have an DVI/computer direct connection for $3500. Add the cost of that computer $1500 and you are looking at a total cost of approx. $5000. Take and add the price of the PS3 and you get approx $4000.

Take note when shopping for $1000 or low cost Computers. They often don't include Wifi or Bluetooth where as the PS3 does although it seems that computer makers have deem multi-card readers a must have hardware item these days as it seems even the Sub $1000 machines can come with them.

PS3 is still a great deal and as some people have pointed out great graphics don't make great gamers. If Epic makes a smooth running great looking game for the PS3 and with full keyboard and mouse support (yes you don't need FragFX to play a regular PC keyboard and mouse will work but it does look sort of cool - hope it works), I would be surprised if a few dominate players in the UT3 world are of the PS3 sort.

[DaEnforcer]

Who needs that? I mean do people really care that much about against who they play? I don't care as long as I fragg the other guy haha

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

just give me the games, and online play.

then let the fanboy fragging begin!

[IRONMAN457]

it would be the ultimate to have PS3 vs. Pc vs. 360

hopefully the 360 version doesnt lag for xbots

ROK ON SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[snakeak]

"360 Users: please do not hijack this thread. The game is only coming out on PS3 and PC this year and then will appear on 360 next year. As soon as we have a better idea on 360 release timeframe and features we'll announce it but don't expect any news on it before the end of this year." Nice one Rein. Made me LOL.

[Daxx]

I want PS3 and 360 cross platform play to see who truely is the masters of FPS. Epic has plenty of time now to add that feature in because they delayed the 360 version till 2008. I wouldn't mind if they took out mods just for that to happen.

It would be smart for Epic to do so because it would sell so many copies for each system. And the reason why it would sell so well is because all this aggression that is going on these PS3 and 360 game sites (N4G for example) can get taken out online on UT3. >:-)

We would have true war across the internets! lol. ^_^

[Cook1eMan]

Xbox never followed in the PS3's footsteps for the game as it started development on the 360 first. Second I now dont really wan the game because I dont want to play with playstation people. Sorry, if you think I'm a huge fanboy, but I dont want to them on the game or hear them when I'm playin. Final statement I'm not buying it if I cant play with only PC players. Consoles slow us down on graphics and everything.

[Omicronn]

A Gamers opinion:

Awesome!

Next:
Xbox vs Playstation!

That would be the game hit of the year if they ever made a deal to do one haha

[s8anicslayer]

good deal,ps3 vs pc,nce