PlayStation3: Too Little, Too Late

Brian Crawford of Forbes.com writes, "Not only has Sony gone from first to last in the market for videogame consoles, it has done so at the worst possible moment. Nintendo's Wii and games such as "Rock Band" and "Guitar Hero" have pushed the on-screen action into the living room, turning console gaming from geek to chic.

Now Sony's ( SNE - news - people ) latest move, slashing the PlayStation3's price by $100 to $299 and offering a thinner version of the ginormous console, has almost no hope of making a difference. That's because Sony's technology-packed console will remain more expensive than either the Xbox 360, which starts at less than $20,0 and the Wii, which sells for $250.

Not a good place to be, with price cuts for those consoles almost surely on the way. And while Sony's offering is packed with expensive technology, it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming. "

[Gue1]

Another article but from another site utilizing the same tittle? WTF?

Talking about desperate fanboys...

[CliffyB]

You think the PS3 has now "won the console war" You are certain that it will now start outselling the 360. If so add a reply, so we can all get your name and laugh at you later. Me? I think the console war is far from over and won't be making any fanboy-driven predictions.

EDIT: Eagle21 you are the first. Any other fanboy?

[OmarJA]

Shut up CliffyBoy your just a laughable joke like any other bot in this site...

[DonCorneo]

LMAO!!!!.. or he can predict the future.. oh yeah, the ps3 outsold the crapbox in Europe by one million even with crappy's one-year headstart.. or maybe the writer is correct, but who cares? if losing the console wars means having the best exclusives year-in and year-out, then i would cheer for sony to keep on "losing".

[Lou-Cipher]

I think it is funny how people are happy with 2nd place in sells, but don't seem to care about having good games or reliable hardware.

The fact that the PS3 is continuing to dominate MS in quality game titles is all anyone should care about.

Besides the PS3 is about to steal the very best exclusive the 360 has.

No its not Halo or Gears, its that AAAA quality game known only as:

SALES

[DMason]

Are you guys seriously this f*cking retarded? You say that this guy is a Microsoft fanboy? He writes for a analytical business and financial publication. He does not give a flying f*ck about the console war. You say he's an "Xbot". No, he's making predictions on business trends.

Wow, the fanboyism on this site has hit a new all time low. PS3 fanboys are the absolute worst. I can almost guarantee the average IQ of a PS3 fanboy is about 47. And that's being generous.

[CliffyB]

What a surprise. I should shut up, yet no takers on my offer. You should shut up Omarja you little fangirl and enjoy the wait for FFvs 13.

[killersmoke]

ps3 cut price took sales for six months. plus I would expect a good answer to sony's cut. plus next year you got natal included... the war is over. sony 3rd, microsoft 2nd, wii 1st.....

GET OVER IT.., M$ ONE OF THE BEST MARKETING AND STRATEGY COMPANIES IN THE BUSINESS AND YOU DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A PLAN.....MAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

@ OMARJA< WHO's pathetic? looks like the Droids looking for maybe a month come back just to be shut down by M$..........

[da720izcumin]

the ps3 is already doomed.
it's a little 2 late kids....
but it was a nice race, that microsoft before the ps3 even entered the market.

BTW, here comes those year of the ps3 articles again!!!
love those...they're like pies, cause i get to throw it @ the clown's face @ the end of the day...

[Once Upon a Fable]

The PS3 lost. Period.

wait you say it can catch up??

Ok, lets wait and see. :)

[AngryTypingGuy]

As far as dominating the market like PS2, yes it's too late for the PS3 to do that. They've simply lost too much market share to the other two for that to realistically happen. However, I will stick by my previous prediction that now that a cheaper PS3 is available, its monthly sales will pass the 360s for the time being.

Will it be enough to pass the 360 eventually? Maybe, but that remains to be seen. I hate to tell you Sony fanboys, but it's not a given that it will. There is a chance the PS3 will remain the PS3rd for this gen.

[killersmoke]

YEA OLD NEWS, OUT SELLING SONY THOUGH. ALREADY THERE IS A PRICE CUT ON THE TABLE FOR XBOX..

GOOD TRY THOUGH. NATAL, WILL ABOLISH THE PS3

[borgome]

Everyone I know who owns a Ps3 bought it mainly because its cheaper alternative to buying a dedicated blu ray player.

[kagon01]

_

[LordMarius]

"it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming."

Who wrote this? Forbes is trying to outdo Cnet

[jmare]

Nice!

[INehalemEXI]

impressive.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Now its too late? LOL

Two significant jump today and the media still won't stop bashing the PS3.

[PixlSheX]

**Facepalm**

1st day and already two "too late/bad move/i'm jelous sony" articles

[hulk_bash1987]

It seems like every time something positive comes out of the PS3 camp, some douchebag has to come and sh@t all over it for the rest of us.

[sunnygrg]

Another day, another hate article.

Sony keeps on trying, and people keep on finding new ways to whine!

Oh and according to Forbes, motion control is the nest big thing :O

[no_more_trolling]

its time people stop with this console hate
just game on ur system, its a smart choice to have both systems, cuz both have games that you all would love to play

im interested in KZ2, and Uncharted 2

plus i can play online for free

my xbox live expired and now i feel the need to play online again, but dont want to pay to play multiplayer

am i a converted fanboy? no
i never was a fanboy, im just doing what feels good in my heart.

games are meant to be enjoyed, and you make good friends in the process, we should all cut this partisan crap and enjoy games the way they were meant to be enjoyed.

[I_am_rushin]

Obviously a fanboy. Just hear me out. He wrote the article in such a hurry that he made a mistake. On Forbes!

"That's because Sony's technology-packed console will remain more expensive than either the Xbox 360, which starts at less than $20,0 and the Wii, which sells for $250."

Why does it seem that the entire gaming media wants Sony to fail? What has Sony ever done except for innovate in the gaming industry?

[eagle21]

360 is old news......prehistoric hardware! :)

[gambare]

the guy really wants hits for his site

[Greywulf]

Let the sony hate continue boys..

BEHIND Motion controls.. LOL that should be the new "BAM THERE IT IS!"

"which starts at less than $20,0 and the Wii, which sells for $250." 20 I can just see the feverish panic while typing. lol.. and the hilarious thing is the more expensive Wii sells more than the dirt cheap 360.

[MazzingerZ]

is that a real link? Are you guys really sure that it's not some hacker that is redirecting from forbes...it just feels so unreal all the stuff they write LOL I could get a job there and make a better analys.

Once sales figures are released I guess the next step will be to report that the Slim has overheating problems, you'll see

[mrv321]

BURLINGAME, Calif. -- Not only has Sony gone from first to last in the market for videogame consoles, it has done so at the worst possible moment. Nintendo's Wii and games such as "Rock Band" and "Guitar Hero" have pushed the on-screen action into the living room, turning console gaming from geek to chic.

Now Sony's ( SNE - news - people ) latest move, slashing the PlayStation3's price by $100 to $299 and offering a thinner version of the ginormous console, has almost no hope of making a difference. That's because Sony's technology-packed console will remain more expensive than either the Xbox 360, which starts at less than $20,0 and the Wii, which sells for $250.

Not a good place to be, with price cuts for those consoles almost surely on the way. And while Sony's offering is packed with expensive technology, it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming.

Both Nintendo ( NTDOY.PK - news - people ) and Microsoft ( MSFT - news - people ) are pressing their advantage in those areas. Nintendo is bundling its latest game, "Wii Sports Resort," with an add-on that allows its WiiMote controller to pick up an even wider range of motion. Microsoft, meanwhile, is larding its Xbox Live online gaming service with movies, videogames and even live, interactive game shows.

[RememberThe357]

First they need to lower the price as soon a possible or they were going to fail. And now that they have lowered the price, they are going to fail anyway? Am I getting this right?

I hate when people who don't know sh*t about this industry write about it. It shows you how niche this industry is when Forbs can't even find a logical journalist.

[callahan09]

Wow. Seriously, why does the PS3 get so much hate by the media? This is ridiculous. It smells like damage control, but why would a so-called independent journalist want to damage control this announcement?

[Information Minister]

Trollish article, obviously written by a Microsoft fanboy in denial.

[MTEC8]

too little to late articles already!? I honestly do not think that is what Microsoft and Nintendo is thinking.

[Aclay]

First the media was complaining/crying about the PS3 needing a price cut and "lagging" PS3 sales, and now that the PS3 has got a price cut, even before a DAY has gone by, they are already shooting it down... but then again, this shouldn't be a surprise the media has always been down Sony's throat this gen. just because Sony isn't in the lead.

Like I said in an article yesterday: PS3 price cut + GT5 (whenever it comes out) + FFXIII in Japan this holiday = Massive Impact. I haven't said this in a long time, but I can't wait until September's NPD numbers come in.

The PS3 may or may not still have a chance to outsell the 360 this gen., but I still expect a $299 PS3 to cut down the 360's lead substantially until the Xbox 360 Elite hits $199 or until the Arcade hits $149, because the PS3 has already proven time and time again that it can outsell the 360 at a higher price point.

[njr]

Forbes Article: Too Little, Too Late.

[IzKyD1331]

Did they really say the PS3 was "behind" in motion controls and online gaming? Compared to what? The Wii? Forbes, just stick to business and leave gaming to us, because you don't know jack sh1t about it

[Nineball2112]

This submission:

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

begs to differ about which console is least expensive (not to mention all that you get with it).

I would have expected less "sensationalism" from Forbes.... They must need the hits?

[gumgum99]

@ 1.14

lmao, so true.

[ocha84]

that's why the slim is #1 on amazon, the 80 gig model is #10, and the 160 gb models is #85~!!!! I know amazon doesn't count for all the retailers out there but~ i cannot remember the last time the ps3 was anywhere near the #1 spot on the bestseller list~!

[CrazzyMan]

Too late to play:

Resistance 1 & 2
MotorStorm + M:PR
Heavenly Sword
Uncharted 1 & 2
Ratchet and Clank (both games)
Metal Gear Solid 4
Valkyria Chronicles
Naruto:UNS
Folklore
Demon`s Soul
InFamous
LittleBigPlanet
Killzone 2
WarHawk
NGS 1 & 2
White Knight Story
Quantum Theory
Disgaea 3
EyePet
Siren New
Yakuza 3
SOCOM
MLB09
MAG
God of War 3
Heavy Rain
The Last Guardian
Final Fantasy XIII Versus
Gran Turismo 5
The Agent

[FireJackal]

They where really fast O.O

[Gamertags]

Why on earth would it be too late? Never too late to try to turn things around. Silly article.!

[Sarcasm]

Wow, it hasn't even been a few hours and it's already #1 on amazon?

[JokesOnYou]

I say just wait and see....I mean too late for what? Surely it will help sony close the gap a bit, but personally I don't think this will lead to a huge sales boost for ps3.

JOY

[Blaster_Master]

This price cut just goes to show how much of a rip off the 360 really is at $300 bucks, or even $200 bucks for the arcade. The 360 doesn't have wifi, HD dvd player, bluetooth mic and keyboard support, no web browser, no AAA exclusives besides Mass Effect, and doesn't have free online. The ps3 will be king of all as soon as they implement cross game chat. There will be no competition then, even if the other consoles drop their price. They sure as hell aren't worth half the squid they are going for at this point in their life cycles.

BTW, Microsoft better be selling the elite for $200 bucks this winter or they are gonna get smashed in sales by Sony.

[darkequitus]

This is so funny.#

MS could hire the greatest minds to make the most efficient hardware ever created and RROD would still crop up.

Where as Sony cound sell the PS3 for a dollar finding a way to make it for no money at all (i.e. 1 dollar profit per console, more than now) and they would has still failed.

LOL

[presto717]

Holy Sh*t!!!

Epic Win.

[evrfighter]

This is THE Forbes we're talking about here you know. These guys eat, sleep, and breathe finance.

What's pretty funny is. The people who you guys should not want to read this ( Sony shareholders) are the people who will most likely read it.

[morganfell]

Yeah, this is Forbes. The guys that have had to lay off staff at their own genius organization. Ha ha ha. Roger McNamee had to leave and was replaced by an efficiency expert. What a laugh. get your own act together Forbes. And let's not even talk about that loon Steve Forbes....

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[FamilyGuy]

I love that comment 1.1 currently has no disagrees and 64 agrees.

No one here agrees with this article and that's hilarious.

[Noob]

Whats up with the damage control?

[t-dizzle]

I will admit this article seems really premature, but this guy is writing for one of the most respected business publications in the world, and you are making it out like he writes for some crappy xbox blog that a 12 year old runs in his basement. Forbes has routinely predicted the wealthiest corporations/state economies in the world, so don't try to shrug this guy off like he doesn't understand business. As for the PS3 slim, I am taking a wait and see attitude with it as I assume a lot of people will, but dammit people, calm down. The guy is writing this from a business perspective, from a financial perspective, from an analyst perspective. He is not writing from a fanboy perspective.

Deal with it!

PEACE!

[Boody-Bandit]

For a console from a company with a history of 10 year life spans and they are not even 3 years into this one? Oh yeah this is a quality article. Will the hate never end?

[Anon1974]

and the Wii would be pressing it's advantage?

Riiiiiight. Perhaps Forbes should stick to stock analysis. 120 million PS2 owners didn't have motion control. Do you think they're all suddenly jumping aboard the motion control train?

[read disc error]

slim or no slim. XBL > PSN by a pretty big margin.

do you N4g sony fanboys really think that MS won't counter with a price cut of their own?

[Pika-pie]

I dont care if Sony isnt No.1 this gen. Nintendo has shown us that number 1 in sales doesnt necessarily mean no1 for gaming

[usern4g]

Right.

Forbes is ignorant of a the multi-billion-dollar video game industry.

Dont lose faith Troops!

[theEnemy]

-coming from someone who doesn't even play games.

lmao.

[NickIni]

It's about 12 hours since it was officially announced, we have yet to see any results, but already it's been declared a failure?

This is why gaming journalism is fudged up.

[gaffyh]

@1.39 - They obviously didn't. I'm sure someone predicted this exact title was coming in another article a few days ago.

[Kill Crow]

489,381 per month to catch it by Jan 2011. 112,934 per week.
286,879 per month to catch it by Jan 2012. 66,203 per week.
202,914 per month to catch it by Jan 2013. 46,826 per week.
156,971 per month to catch it by Jan 2014. 36,224 per week.

Current rate is: -51,873 per month
Avge for last 6 mths
Negative number means 360 is still outselling PS3 by that amount per month on avge

[t-dizzle]

And that is why their is cause to worry. It is not a niche publication. It is a trusted source for BUSINESS analysis. They are reacting to this story from a business perspective. What does this mean for sony in the console market. NOT what it means for the loyalists out there.

@ 1.42 "coming from someone who doesn't even play games." Don't you get it? This is why it is so much more dangerous to have it come from the mouth of a magazine like this. Forbes analysts make the Financial Times, CNN, Fox News, whatever, and they go on a spell out their thoughts. Do you think all 120 million people who bought a ps2 were gamers? That they read gaming publications? No. It came from publicity/advertising and word of mouth. This is bad word of mouth.

[edgeofblade]

I think this is great for PS3.

But make no mistake: Forbes would not be flamebaiting, and you know it. I would take their story seriously and agree or disagree with it based on it's content.

And for the record, I disagree.

[MagicAccent]

Cue the Motivational Photo

[GameGambits]

This is officially the most retarded thing ever written on this entire planet. Congratulations you are now 100X dumber than any HipHopGamer article EVER written.

Take a bow.

[Anon1974]

If you look at the official ship numbers from both Microsoft and Sony there's only 190,000 consoles separating them for the first six months of this year. And consider this, last year at this time the 360 was behind Sony by over a million consoles for the calendar year. The 360 had it's price cut, received a sales boost and was able to end the year about dead even with Sony. If the 360 could overcome a deficit of a million consoles with a price cut, do you really not think Sony could overcome 190,000 now?
If Sony and Microsoft's ship numbers are hit for the fiscal year, and there's no reason at this point to think that they won't, Sony will have eaten away at the 360's one year lead by about 3 million consoles. Time will tell, but that's what they're telling their shareholders and they don't make those projections lightly. If they miss the targets it hits their stock price and then there's some explaining to do.

[NaViTo]

This has to be the most hilarious article I've read in all day! Call it Damage Control try.

[nothere413]

I just heard two of my friends saying they'll be getting one now.

Too little, too late... MY ASS.

[thesummerofgeorge]

But apparently there's only room for the console in first place. Where did this concept come from that only one of the two consoles can exist (I exclude wii from this equation for obvious reasons) that's bull, the PS3 is doing great at this point in its lifespan, it's not all black and white, where because it's not beating the 360 at this point, it's failing or Sony needs to quit gaming market... That's faulty logic. This guy's an idiot, straight up.

[DaTruth]

I really don't understand this concept where you sell more in three years than your competition, yet are dead because they started earlier than you. If I sell ten million consoles a year and they sell nine million a year, how could they possibly be selling more than me. Every single year PS3 has outsold 360, and yet, somehow 360 is the God of consoles and it sells the least.

Last year they sold less, this year they will have sold less; is there something wrong here, when selling more than your competition makes you less!

Is this the Bizarro world; "Bizarro Superman help them by killing them!"

[kalebgray92]

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunc...

[Buttons]

First it was the PS3 is too expensive, and now when it's not, it's NOT GOOD ENOUGH??

[Megaton]

"And while Sony's offering is packed with expensive technology, it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming."

I lol'd.

[callahan09]

Yeah, seriously. I didn't know that the Wii had more mature online gaming features and functionality than the PS3? The 360 does in some areas, sure, like cross-game voice chat and voice messaging, but that's a service you have to pay for repeatedly. I mean, at this point the PS3 costs less than the 360 Elite! It is the exact same price, but you get blu-ray and wi-fi support, and you never have to pay to play online with what is actually quite a sophisticated online network considering that it's free. It makes the Wii's online functionality look practically non-existent. Considering that for 300 bucks I can get a PS3 and sign up for an online account and start playing online immediately for no extra cost, and if I pay that same 300 bucks for the 360, I can't sign up for the account and play online unless I plunk down some extra money. So yeah, I think the PS3 is sitting pretty right now on pretty much all levels.

[DaTruth]

I think the gaming industry has lost itself when motion controls are more important for gaming than actual games.

[gdguide]

Yeah, the PS3 selling just under 10% less than the 360 this last quarter = dooooooooomed. Man, they need to do their homework on things.

[Ju]

Boss: "Come up with some crap so we can post that sh!t an generate some hits". Editor: "Bu...bu...but then I need to lie!". "Just shut up and do it." (looks into wallet with big envelope).

[Knghtz]

How would anyone have a big envelope in their wallet?

[Ju]

LOL. Use your imagination...

[rucky]

Funny I always thought a game console should be about the quality of games. And too late for what? Is there a deadline somewhere I don't know about?

[FireJackal]

Didn't you know?Every PS3 is gonna explode in late 2010.

[GarandShooter]

Crap! I was hoping it would at least hold out until the world ends in 2012.

[madpuppy]

Impossible, I'm pretty sure that Microsoft patented the "exploding console" feature exclusively for the Xbox 360.

[LordMarius]

Eat bots, eat

[jmare]

This guy just seems to like to piss on everything, his other articles piss all over the Ipod and other idiotic opinions.

[DaTruth]

Didn't you know, the Ipod is failing?

/sarc

That is the sound of credibility flying away!

[PirateThom]

Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt.

[inbfour]

It's just damage control. Now that the 360 and PS3 are the same price people are going into a panic.

[ChozenWoan]

Let the feeding frenzy begin.

[dawgsfan117]

You do understand this is all coming from Forbes who simply look at this from a purely financial perspective right? Their is no bias in this article its just an analyst calling it like he sees it.

Oh and for the record I own both a PS3 and 360 so please no dumb comments from fanboys.

[Shnazzyone]

I have to openly state even though i'm posting this... I consider this article absolutely terrible. This writer seems to think he knows everything. I wouldn't have posted this if it wasn't for the fact it is by an well established tech analyst at forbes.

Seriously... this article is pretty awful but it is totally possible that ps3 will never get out of 3rd place. You guys can always call cult system status and just roll with that. It's alright to not own the #1 system.

[ChozenWoan]

I don't own, ever owned, nor ever plan to own a Wii!!!

[Shnazzyone]

I feel the same way about the ps3.

[ChozenWoan]

well to each his own...

so today we will drink and be marry for tomorrow we may die...

or our consoles...

wanna bet as to whose will first. ;p

ps
+ bubbles buddy for the laughter

[Jamegohanssj5]

STFU.

TGSI

[Max Power]

DEF.

[PixlSheX]

WTF?

[Rocket Sauce]

IDK, my BFF Jill?

[Information Minister]

Sorry... I couldn't resist.

[Jamegohanssj5]

I lol'ed

TGSI

[EvilTwin]

As a Wii owner, I'd say a substantial price cut is FAR from "too little, too late." It's making me consider a PS3. GOW3 certainly won't be on any other console.

[Foxgod]

good for you, but not everybody is interested in GOW3, the last one sold only 2.5 million copies, while there where 100 million + ps2's sold.

Sony still doesnt produce games that the masses want.

[jmare]

When you say masses, do you mean the lemmings that buy the same game over and over every year and own a console that is known only for a handful of titles? The Playstation brand has never been about one game that sells 132487562341056012 copies. The Playstation brand is all about diversity.

[QSPR]

why you always came with F\/cking zalezzzz,you play with the sales or games????????????????? come on man give it up and say it,the PS3 now is in a good price with nice games,exclusives and FREE online multyplayers,blu-ray and a lot of more multymedia features.. plz dude just stop...

[catchnvampire]

@Fox
Yeah right,100 million is the sales target of next God of War....[\sarcasm].

People don't realize that the PS2 sold a heck a ton for the fact that it was a good game console that could double up as media entertainment DVD player (a generation ahead at that point of time)..... So your right, not everyone is going to buy God of War.

But, This holiday season, if you want a the next gen entertainment device that could do the same, you know where the buyers are going to flock !!

[Foxgod]

@Atomic, lets remain with facts will you.

GOW2 selling only 2.5 M copies = fact.
You knowing anything about my family = not a fact.

Besides, how could i ever feel insulted by a person like you.

But your right, she did produce what the masses want, ME!.
Thank you for the praise, but i really dont need it from someone like you.

@below,
Right, i am not one of these people demanding a price drop for the ps3, cause i dont want it anyway.
I bought the 360 when it was a lot more expensive then it is now.

[lokiroo420]

Foxgirl go back and study for that fake degree, software tester, lmao, before your failing at 3 things, trolling, life in general, and school.

[callahan09]

Sony doesn't produce games that the masses want? The masses want Gran Turismo, my friend. Besides, who cares about sales. It's about having fun. If you can't acknowledge now that the PS3 has a diverse library of quality software, a lot of nice entertainment features, and a lot of value in the box, then you'll never acknowledge it, so what's the use. I wish I could report your comment twice: as Off Topic and as Spam. Gee whiz.

[sparta76]

"god of war II sold 2.5 million"
hmmm.. Ok
uncharted sold more then mass effect: fact
gt5p sold more then forza2: fact
lbp sold more then fable 2: fact

soo what was your point again??

Sorry about any mispelling I'm on my I-phone :p

[read disc error]

zomg GOW2 sold 2.5 million it will sell so many slims!!!

@sparta, you're on crack. give us reliable sources for your imaginary numbers or they're not "fact."

what's with all the sony fanboys with multiple accounts and badly punctuated posts?

[sparta76]

No there fact, just google you'll see!!
And yes I smoke crack with your mom ;)

[Gamer_Politics]

the ps3 is too far behind and MS will always counter sony with price cuts just to keep ahead

[OmarJA]

Too bad M$ won't do anything about the lack of exclusives in their cheap broken console.

[LordMarius]

seriously how are you keeping your bubbles >_>

[-x.Red.x-]

for that $49.99
360

[Saaking]

7 million isn't "too much" you stupid bots actually think the 360 can beat the wii. Let me tell you, 20 million IS "too much" The PS3 WILL surpass the 360.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

then maybe ill by one again just maybe cause i dont know what ill play on it, i dont likie halo

[cereal_killa]

"the ps3 is too far behind and MS will always counter sony with price cuts just to keep ahead "

OH REALLY!!! didnt M$ just raise the price of there 360s and there already over price accessories in the UK hmmmmm!!!.

[Lord_Ranos]

BOT article no doubt.

Xbox and their followers must die.MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IcyJoker187]

.

[no_more_trolling]

im getting a slim
good to have all systems
fanboys make no sense

[Ashton]

PS3 slim isn't out yet and websites already started the doom and gloom nonsense articles yet again?

wonder how much MS paid for this article.

shut the hell up with these articles.enough is enough.

[Fiona]

sony cut's the price, announce a better ps3 with 120 gb and still get's crap from the media which has been calling for a price cut. My god i do not understand.

[Lucreto]

Lol I facepalmed so hard I caused a spark.

We all expected this will happy hours after a price cut. The only good news about it is that I won a bet with a friend. I said an american site will downgrade the news first while a friend thought it would be Eurogamer.

[sjaakiejj]

so first the media is screaming "PS3 needs a pricecut!!!!!!!!!!!!" as hard as they can, and when it actually gets it they react with "Meh ps3 is too little and too late"

[monkey nuts]

More pointless opinionated cra_p to rally the fanboys for more hits. Who'da thunk it?

Edit: Honestly, its like herding cattle but without all the hard work.

[GarandShooter]

And you even wind up with more bullshit!

[inbfour]

Damage Control

[psthreee]

stupid fanboy article

[TheTruth89]

who're these gay?

[shutupandplay]

Uh, yeah. I`ve been saying it. It`s might be 300 bucks now, but it still comes with all the features that put it in 3rd.

[OmarJA]

Features that made it the most powerful console with the best lineup of exclusives & no 54% failure rate.

[Briafili]

Because Forbes is a well known video game website. This is just a half assed attempt to get views to their website.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Well Brian Crawford, when you are proven wrong will you have the BALLS to write about how wrong you were?
...I dought it...

[360usetobegood]

Seriously the same MORONS have been saying the SAME thing for what 3+ years now? The ps3 sold 20 millon + even if it didnt sell ANY further units thats still a respectable number..

And just remember 360 screwed over its users, the wii screwed over their users, the ps3 was a solid built console and has done nothing to disappoint... IT was expensive and it paid off in the long run.

So take this garbage article and shove it right up your Wii

[QSPR]

they give us numbers today and the PS3 is 24 millions worldwide tadaaaaaaaaaaa jejeje so we got 4 more millions. niiiiceeee, now sony give me GT5,GoW3 and MAG this year and you gonna make me the most happy guy in the world!! :D

[killersmoke]

31.30 million for xbox 360
23.16 million for PS3

you got 8.14 ,million to catch up, good luck.............

not 4, douche!

Whats "4 more millions" anyway?

[MONOLITHICIDE]

hey killersmoke your retarded, he was talking about the 20 million plus 4

[killersmoke]

Sorry did not realize how retarded ps3 fanboys are. apparently all of you speak retarded.

[Kushan]

Yeah! Because Sony is going to go bankrupt because they're in third place!

I think there's something many people on here don't want to admit: The market is big. Huge, even. Bigger than hollywood ffs, there's enough room for 3 competitors, especially when one of them isn't even targeting your audience.

Speaking of that competitor (Nintendo, if you hadn't figured), does anyone remember the N64? Good little console, some great games, but the PS1 walked all over it. What about the gamecube? Similar story, very much ended up bringing up the rear during the last generation, but now look at where Nintendo is.

Even IF Sony doesn't "pull back" enough, they're not in a bad position, they're not going anywhere and by the end of it, they'll still have made a lot of money. Meanwhile, a lot of people here sit and argue about trivial things when we should be playing some great games.

[PirateThom]

I certainly don't have a problem with Sony being third place... hell, I could be the only person with a PS3 and, as long as they kept making games it wouldn't bother me.

The problem is how quick people are to dismiss any of the consoles because they picked one and feel some strange need to defend their choice because there's something they want on the other console and it's giving them odd amounts of pain they can't have it.

[PirateThom]

Samsung don't make a co...

Oh, I see...

[F N A Pepper]

i have to agree with pirate tom, its just simply not an issue, the bottom line is all i played was 360 and bashed ps3 players and then decided i was being stupid and bought a ps3, the only reason i was being a b-tthead was because i wanted the exlcusives and i couldn't have them, well i made a choice chalked up the money and now have all three systems and i'm happy with my choice and i have no real reason to bash anymore, i like all three of them for different reasons each kudos to sony for lowering the price and kudos for being the first one to making a downsized version, i plan on getting one, Good job sony, you make the working man happy.

[jmare]

Foxgod, do you even think before you post?

[bigj]

the n64 and gamecube was not an expensive console to produce like PS3.If Nintendo would have made something like the PS3 then they wouldnt be in the gaming industry anymore.Sony is done losing money and with this price cut they are going to be losing even more.Sony will reconsider trying to make a $600 bluray player next gen.Thats if their still around.

[ChozenWoan]

As a gamer, I've never been disappointed if my console of choice was in first or last. From the Sega Master system to the Genesis I backed Sega 100% due to them making the games I wanted to play. While the NES and SNES had more games & more hardware sales, Sonic, Strider, Shinobi, After Burner, and Altered Beast where still my favorites.

To this day, what games my friends have/had doesn't matter to my personal gaming experience. To be honest, the last game I got due to peer pressure was CoD4. While it's ok, it's not a mature enough shooter for my tastes. Thus why I won't be getting MW2, it's just too arcadey for me. Thus I only get games I'm interested in, seeing how being a follower has never really paid off for me.

It's interesting when you thing about it. This gen has been one of the best and worst in history. While the consoles and services have been evolving at breakneck speeds, FBs have been running rampant like never before. At least this holiday season, gamers everywhere will be winners regardless of what hate mongers spew across the net.

[Kushan]

bigj: I don't think you realise just how huge Sony is as a company. Even if the PS3 absolutely tanked and cost them billions, they'd still be around. They make a lot more than just consoles.
Plus, are you forgetting that unlike the N64, the "expensive" PS3 also pushed a format for a completely different industry?
For every PS3 sold, Sony makes money back on Blu-ray purchases as well as games so the "loosing money" argument doesn't hold up well.

[PirateThom]

For all the money Sony are losing, the slim PS3 seems to be retailing for profit...

http://www.totalvideogames....

[madpuppy]

Is your avatar a picture of Paul Guilfoyle?

[cmrbe]

Man, it is going to be so freaking hilarious when the PS3 speed past the x360 and perhaps the wii in the long run. I am going to pull out all these articles for my top ten list of PS3 doom articles for a blog.

[gumgum99]

huh?...

Its only been three years...

*Godzilla facepalm*

[eagle21]

that's for damn sure. :)

[KR1ST0F3R]

360 has been cheap enough for everyone for long enough. it must be near saturation(relatively speaking), there cannot be many that are waiting for it to get cheaper.

ps3 was too expensive for many yet still kept pace(almost). now it has just got cheap enough for millions of ps2 (and 360) fence-sitters. then u factor in the upcoming exclusives.

sony has thrown a massive haymaker - and it has landed flush.

from a business point of view they need to keep the ball rolling by ADVERTISING and somehow overcome the gamerscore problem. too many consumers are tied to microsoft product with all their hard work and fond memories that the gamerscore holds. this is the multiplatform problem still in sony's way.

[farsided]

coming from a 360 fan...i disagree.

'nuff said.

[chewmandinga]

Some people are never happy.

Next we'll hear Kotick saying the PS3 is too cheap!

[Sarcasm]

Wouldn't be surprised.

"They are buying too many Sony Games! Sony needs to make the PS3 more expensive so that we'll only sell to gamers that buy Activision products!"

[Danicus]

Forbes needs better writers; you know... the ones that do PROPER RESEARCH combined with INDUSTRY KNOWLEDGE before they put pen to paper.

Although, this means I could possibly start writing for the lingerie industry...

[bubb13gum Easy]

A ps3 that had a $400-$600 dollar price point with no games and is only 8 million units behind a system that had a one year+ start (if you want to include microsoft advertising the 360) and has sold 23 million units in 33 months all the while competing with its daddy(ps2) for sales...and its too little too late? We haven't even seen God of war yet. Be serious now...

[catchnvampire]

^ lol....I have a serious feeling the writer has never even heard of 'God of War' and what it means to a game console.... :)

[Sarcasm]

More like what Gran Turismo meands to a game console.

Seriously, with GT5 out anywhere from this holiday to next year, it's still going to sell MILLLLLLLLLLIONS.

GT Fans around the world will definitely fork over $299 for a Slim PS3 and GT5.

[Figboy]

the school dance?

it's never too late for a business to make a profit, and considering that Sony is indeed making money on all the software sold, even if not the profit, i don't see it being "too late" for ANYTHING concerning the PS3 brand.

a LOT of people have been eagerly awaiting this price drop.

it's here now. people that wanted one at $300 will get one. you can't ask for more than that.

also considering the fact that some of the best games on the PS3 are now Greatest Hits $30, more software will be sold now that the newcomers are hopping on board and purchasing games like Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, etc, etc.

in the end, i don't care about sales numbers, just quality software, and the PS3 has that in spades these days, with more quality titles on the way.

[Gamer_Politics]

You can disagree all you want, but the facts are in the sales, this price cut should have came when the race was close, sony is a bunch of retards to wait this long, most have sold their ps3 to join the xbox revolution, ps3 is like 10 milion behind in sales, now they wanna cut,what happened to being all about profit and not caring about being in the lead? these were sony's words when us fans requested this price cut when sales were on equal grounds, but now that the end for them is near they expect to save their skin with this price cut? im sorry but here is a reality check for all you people still on board this derailing sony will comeback fantasy train, get off at the last stop and transfer to the one that heads to the borough of 360.

[Tinted Eyes]

lol keep thinking tht

[Gamer_Politics]

wake up out of that sony dream and learn to accept reality

[Ri0tSquad]

Do you even play games?

[meatnormous]

I never sold my PS3 to get a 360, I just went and bought one cause I am not a broke ass loser. I own them all and enjoy the PS3 the most by far.

[air1]

so is that it? 3 hours for that? a slim and a price drop? and psp minis?

[cyborg6971]

And ms's presentation will be nothing but awkward silence,coughing,and farts.

[kaz-hirai]

"PlayStation3: Too Little, Too Late"

Too late because he had to buy his 3rd brokebox60 ;-D

[Theoneneo81]

the elite is a better deal um lets see with the elite you need to spend a additional 100 on wifi and 50bucks a year for online play and charging station adapter to for controllers so ur spending another 200 bucks on accessories yeah that sounds like a better deal to me /end sarcasm.

[Sez]

Let use the same logic for the ps3. Ok let's start with the new. Slim model. $300. We all know Sony like to claim you can connect the psp to the ps3. But since they are promoting the psp go $260. Oh let's not forget that the ps3 don't play ps2 games. So that means you need a ps2 $99 just to play your old games. Oh the ps3 don't come with headsets. For a decent one let's say $50.-???. Depending on what want to spend for a good one. That comes out to $710. And I didn't even add the price for HDMI cabels.

[meatnormous]

Any usb headset will work with the ps3 and any bluetooth will work as well. I will not use wifi on anything I game on just because it sucks. I wired my entire house with cat 6 for around 80.00, thats cheaper than the 360s wifi adapter. The headset that comes with the 360 looks like it costs .50 cents to make. The wireless headset for the 360 works only for the 360 unless you have the pc adapter. There are more choices on what to use with the ps3 than there are with the 360.

[hesido]

Not even worth mentioning. If you paid more for yours, sorry, you got ripped.

[swiftshot93]

The day the price cut was announced and we already have 3 articles bashing sony....*sigh*

[Knghtz]

If only they could put in a firmware upgrade for backwards compatability, I would get one for sure! I had a ps3 once but I sold it. Not much really drew my attention for it back then.

My 360 has been keeping me fairly busy and I can't wait for Shadow Complex.

Most of the exclusives just don't do it for me for the PS3, but that might change when God of War 3 comes out :p

[yencid]

did it? xD

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Get this crap out of the 360 section.. Nobody cares.

[xg-ei8ht]

That was written by a glove puppet, owned by microsoft.

[Ps_alm3k]

free online, and free bluray!! vs normal xbox 360

300+ bluray vs 300+ 50 more dollars, hmmm....

[Spike47]

Unless MS knowing they'll lose, brings out a new console.

[tiamat5]

What is with all the Sony should give up and Sony is too late? Doesn't anyone understand what this means? Anyone who has a PS2 will now want to upgrade to the Slim. Anyone who doesn't have a next gen console (yes there are people who don't) will now have the PS3 Slim as an affordable option option. To add to this, this move was done close to Christmas time. With games lilke Demon Souls, Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank CIT, the downloadable games and (hopefully) GT5, not to mention even less compitition then ever this year, Sony could potentially make a killng and jump ahead. I mean didn't the person who wrote this articles hear about the shortage of PS3s. It's starting already.

[Saaking]

WOw, delusional bots already on damage control. Face it bots, it's done, it's 299 and it's going to kick the 360's azz out of the console Gen. Doomsday for you is indeed here.

[Dead_Cell]

I'm betting this article was written up before the show even started,and tweaked to fit ;)

[callahan09]

Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[BlackPrince 42]

As in the Forbes who motto is "We are the Capitalist Tool" Forbes (actual motto by the way). As in the same Forbes news media that regularly went on Fox and MSNBC before the recession and talked about how everything was hunky dory.

You know what maybe economists should just admit they have no idea what's really going on. And that goes double for the games industry where half these morons predicted the PS3 would dominate this generation because of name recognition.

We won't know the effect of the PS3 slim on the market until months after it launches.

[QuackPot]

The Ps3 (fat) should have been $299 a year ago.

Instead, Sony kept the price high and focused on getting a slim-mer Ps3 out.

Meanwhile, the xbox 360 maintains good sales and remains firmly in second place.

Major blunder by Sony.

Sony should have had a $299 Ps3 out a year ago and still be working on a >> laptop sized << slim to be released 2010/11. It could've by now been the second placed console or close to it and sales would soar once the >> Laptop sized << Slim is released.

But instead, Sony will likely only see a respectable jump in sales with the slim-mer Ps3 but nothing truly spectacular due to the world economy, cheaper, firmly established competition and the slim being only a 30% reduction and standard looking.

Throughout this generation, Sony has shown no killer instinct and has given its competition too many chances. They could have killed off the 360 by simply releasing a cheap as Ps3 with HDD and no bluray. They could have even challenged the Wii sales by quickly developing a playmote and fun games for the Ps2 once they found out about the wii-mote and its potential.

So many things they could and should have done.

Prediction: The Ps3 will still be in 3rd place by end of 2010. And this PS fanboy is totally fracked off because it could have easily been number one by now.

Oh well, back to playing Warhawk.

[Dead_Cell]

Microsoft could always drop the price to todays cost of last gens consoles and stay ahead of the game.
Incredibly embarrassing being knocked into last gen but still.

[air1]

so its not embarrassing to drp the price like 3 times and revise the console all in like 2 years?

[Dead_Cell]

They cash in on the initial rush and then drop it according to slowdown of demand.
Revision? PS3 slims were rumoured ever since it came out and people remembered the PS2 got a slim,how are you not seeing this?

[air1]

launch price of the 360 lasted longer than the ps3. i know ps2 got a slim just not as fast as the ps3 did it.

i see it, you just dont see how fast its happening. you say its embarrassing to drop the 360 price to last gens price. but ignore the fact on how much they had to gimp the ps3 to get it to were its at now..

[Dead_Cell]

I brought on launch day and my friend brought a year ago,besides BC they're identical.
And of course it lasted longer than the PS3,it had zero competition.

[air1]

lol yea im sure they look the same. i bet that little door on the left opens on yours and not his. i bet you have more usb ports. many other things too, just compare the two..

it still held its original price for the first year of the ps3, did it not? or are you saying that the ps3 wasnt competition?

all im saying is that if you think a last gen price point is embarrassing then you cant ignore the fact on what sony has done to the ps3 within 3 years, and the thing is supposed to be around for 10 years. i guess we have like 5 more slims to go..

[vShinobi]

LMAO is it too late? or are you just afraid?

[Anon1974]

My sister and an old friend of mine both thought I'd be in the know (guilty) and emailed me today as they were both looking to buy a PS3 and were waiting for a price drop. Ars just did a poll and found that over 60% of respondents were waiting for this price drop to pick up a PS3. Hell, web sites all over were crashing this morning with people searching for news on this. How could a site like Forbes be so out of the loop when it comes to the games industry? Do they not have anyone that follows it regularly?

For the love of god, they say the PS3 lacks in online and the Wii will push it's advantage there. It's like the author read two articles about "videogames" and wrote his article based on that info.

[tiamat5]

What I don't get is idiots saying that the PS3 has no games ansd saying that Microsoft has a better variety of games.What variety? I alll the years that the Xbox has existed the only mascot they have up to now is Master Chief is is a flimsy character at best. Pathetic Microsoft's line up constits mostly of generic shooters and racing games. And any other games usually are on the PS3 too or end up on the PS3 eventually. So the next idiot that says there are no games on the PS3 or that their PS3 is gathering dust, I have invented homing missles that can find anyone on the planet just by scanning the text they wrote on a forum. Look out.

[bubb13gum Easy]

The 360 was built around multiplayer first-person shooters. 75% of the games on 360 are shooters my god. Ps1, Ps2...variety. Ps3 just started the race slow...but if you got speed, power, and endurance you can win any race. Sony has that. Nintendo has that. Microsoft has Halo lmaol.

[bubb13gum Easy]

I find all these bashing articles crazy. Now When the Ps3 takes off I cant wait to see the articles of how "The miraculous return of sony" or "Ps3 The return of the king" smh. Same thing happend to the first xbox then people jumped on the bandwagon. Gamecube??? Everybody said Nintendo was done. Halo is my favorite game of all time, wish it was on Ps3...but that's the only reason I own a 360. That's sad.

[callahan09]

OK, yes the 360 does still have the lowest entry price on the market with the 200 dollar arcade. That will still give them a psychological edge with marketing and so forth. But the PS3 was doing just fine before it had this price cut, so it makes no sense to suggest this price cut won't help. Considering the fact that the comparable model of 360 (the Elite) is now more expensive than the PS3 once you include a single month of Xbox Live, I think the PS3 is sitting pretty.

[meatnormous]

You get a month free when you make a new xbox live account. They hook you with the free month and demand money for the same experience going forward.

[Tron_Rocks]

Always was too expensive, now they know they are in trouble they are desperately trying to hang on...

PS3-Dreamcast-Saturn-3DO----- Except all but the PS3 was worth the money!

[Ri0tSquad]

$50 more then a Wii is too expensive now?

"Always was too expensive, now they know they are in trouble they are desperately trying to hang on..."

I'd say they are trying to compete. 360 arcade is cheaper then a Wii so I guess Microsoft is desperate too.

[silvacrest]

wow....
not even 1 days passed before this sh!t came along

bravo...

[gano]

Fuc forbes and anybody still on this 06 shyt.
Sorry, still don't want a metoo360.
Props no more trolling.
Any M$ fans defending that trash after this, 54%+ fail, online pay, a damn tool.
Infact don't buy the ps3, we don't need u on there.
Props shadow man, for tryin to be sensible. I peep it.
U phony/fake cats stay where u at. Man i loathe snakes, phony/twoface mutha*****.
Like jada said, "The real go win, fake go lose".

[TenPThor]

ROFL.

There needs to be a law stating that you can only be a video game reporter if you're over the age of 12.

That'll get rid of all the fanboy trashtalks.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Too little?

The PlayStation 3 is the best multimedia center, and is arguably the best gaming console.

Too late?

It's 3 years after the release, and it has already outsold the GameCube and is about to outsell the original Xbox. Now everyone can have a powerful HD multimedia center in their living room for only $299. Best part? It's reliable and has no hidden fees.

[ShabzS]

why is this in the 360 section ?

[givemelbpbetakeys]

no why are u reading it just dont do it

[Jsynn7]

Get used to this good people. Now that Sony is doing big things with the price drop, your going to see a lot of this. Simple math:

M$+Biased media+Red Ring Cultists+PS3 Price Cut= FUD

[FReeDoM4ALL]

Why are the NA media all in a PS3 bashing frenzy today? What's wrong huh?

First you bash Sony for having a high priced console, then you bash them for dropping the price and introducing a slimmer one with a bigger HDD?

How lame.

[beavis4play]

you are an idiot.

move on folks, nothing to see here but brian making a fool of himself.

[hates video games]

dumb @sses :(

[Ethereal21]

People are morons its official.

[Ninjamonkey82]

When the f**k are these doomsayers just gonna go crawl into a hole and f**king die. Some where along the line you all get it into your heads that you write an article and your word is gospel. You are just a pack of sad f**king losers with sh*t all better to do with your life than cry.

Go chew some humble pie you trolling cunt PS3 is doing well its gonna do better and tbh most the gaming world at one point are gonna own one no matter what you say are do. Its called fighting a losing battle son. Go play your xbox like i will when i get of this PC be happy with your games console and just STFU.

Owning all consoles allows me some perspective. Now nappy head obviously can't afford anything else cause then you would not be moaning.

[Fadetoblack69]

Wonder how much Microsoft paid for them to run that ad? *eg*

[Midgard228]

first off since when was wii 2nd or 1st place? no one plays it.

and um 200$ arcade doesnt count, it doesnt have a hard drive only a moron buys the 150$ 120 gig and spends 350 when they cuda just bought the 300 elite.

alot of people were just waiting for the price drop for sony, honestly doing this just intime for uncharted 2 and god of war 3, thats gonna pull a crap load of people.

now not only is the ps3 same price as the 360 but it has bigger hard drive, bluray, free online all at same price. how is MS supposed to counter that?

MS had to drop the elite to 300 and its still not enough lol

[leeger]

i was actually expecting this kind of article

[paradigmfellow]

just read my title. What a fanboy

[chisox100]

lol i read the first 3 paragraphs and i saw this is just a desperate attempt by fanboys to stop the inevitable

[Wurider]

You fanboys come out in full force when your precious Ps3 gets attacked. You Sony fanboys are the worst on this board by far. Just look at how fast the comment sections fill up whenever the article is about the Ps3. Say what you want but the 360 fanboys don't troll the site like you guys do. Maybe if you had some games to play you wouldn't have time to bash M$ or defend Sony. All you talk about is the future the future. NEWSFLASH!!! The future never gets here!!! The only thing that you got to harp on is games that are not even out yet then when they flop in retail you look stupid. Even if the Slim is successful you think that that 360's sales will drop to 0 a month. It is obvious that you are not comfortable with your purchase of the PS3. You guys act like the Slim is going to change things in a big way. Just remember the 360 is what 4-5 year old technology right now so they have more room with a price cut than Sony does. Like I stated in another post most people don't care for blu-ray and wifi at this point. We are hardcore games but in the grand scheme of things we are a small minority. Most of us on this site don't even like Wiis but it is the biggest selling console in the world right now. I don't think that the general public cares about the Slim. People will spend 2 or 3 grand on a damn television or 400 dollars on a I-phone, 200.00 dollars on blue jeans. I don't think that the price is the problem. Maybe people just don't want a PS3. If this doesn't boost sony long term they are in trouble because they have nothing else to offer.

Now back to MLB:The Show 09...............

[seifer085]

It's not! not until 2012 at least

[Demon5500]

MS new sku looks 200x better then slim :) just wait

[Anon1974]

This guy does realize that you can get Rock Band and Guitar Hero on the PS3, doesn't he? And using his logic, the 360 should be creaming the Wii...because it's all about price now, isn't it? Saying the PS3 Slim won't sell because of the price point is just ignorant. It's been selling the same as the 360 since it launched, and it's always been more expensive. His argument just doesn't hold any water.

I see him writing a lot of articles about cell phones and Ipods, not many about games. Maybe he's new.

[JeffGUNZ]

For the average consumer, they still go into the game store and see 3 systems, and the least expensive is the 360 at 199 and than the wii at 249 and than the ps3 at 299. It really makes clear sense, he believes even though the price cut took a $100 off, it is still the most expensive system to own. Yeah, it has a 120HDD and blue ray and all that but when Christmas time rolls around and the AVERAGE consumer is shopping for their child or what not, the $199 looks a lot better than the $299; I think that is what he is trying to explain here. I still think the original PS3 should have dropped to 249.99 to match the Wii and 299 for the slim.

[SgtBlake]

Sony cut the price at the right time, this Christmas season is going to kick major ass for Sony, Uncharted 2, ratchet and clank, demon soul, mag and so on and so on. Yes xbox has halo and l4d, but the sad truth is halo is played out and MS is just trying to squeeze every last cent out of it. Sony is bringing new games and old favorites that despite being close to their seventh sequal (R&C) still feel fresh and fun and deliver. The only bad thing for PS3 owners is that this Christmas there will be a crap load of kids and preteens on the PSN.

[Digitaldude]

Lol at the article.

[Rifle-Man]

Forbes, fück off.

[dooge]

Bill Gates?

[cardgenius]

He must not remember last year when the price points where the same ($100 difference) and the PS3 out sold the 360 all year until the 360 had its price cut.

[CaptainPunch]

The guy who wrote the article is a dip sh*t. He almost gave no facts at all, quit hating on Sony.

[GMWPS3]

Let me just point out the silliness in this article. See within the original article below for my comment. I just had to rant, especially from a publication which is supposed to be looked up to like Forbes.

Sony slashes the price of its console by $100, but Xbox 360 and Wii are still cheaper.
>>>>>(So Mercedes-Benz slashes price of it's new better equipped E-class but it's still more expensive than a basic Audi A6? What type of justification to complaining about things is this???)

BURLINGAME, Calif. -- Not only has Sony gone from first to last in the market for videogame consoles, it has done so at the worst possible moment. Nintendo's Wii and games such as "Rock Band" and "Guitar Hero" have pushed the on-screen action into the living room, turning console gaming from geek to chic.
>>>>>(Yes I agree there are many more 'new' gamers in the market but what about us 'older' gamers. I know we haven't given up on our Gran Turismos or Gears of war to only play "Guitar Hero". We are still a huge market in this new bigger market!)

Now Sony's ( SNE - news - people ) latest move, slashing the PlayStation3's price by $100 to $299 and offering a thinner version of the ginormous console, has almost no hope of making a difference. That's because Sony's technology-packed console will remain more expensive than either the Xbox 360, which starts at less than $20,0 and the Wii, which sells for $250.
>>>>>(Again comparing apples and oranges when it comes to spec. Wi-Fi, Hard drive space, features, etc ring a bell. I'll give you a clue the PS3 has them and more versus the basic X-box. Following this logic, I expect to pay the same price for a fully loaded car as I would pay for a basic spec car, other wise I won't buy the fully loaded car!!?? Um...okay!)

Not a good place to be, with price cuts for those consoles almost surely on the way. And while Sony's offering is packed with expensive technology, it's the least mature where it matters most: motion-sensitive controllers and online gaming.
>>>>(What is this guy smoking, X-box 360 has motion sensing technology already?? Someone tell me where I can activate the motion sensing on my 360 controller ;-))

Both Nintendo ( NTDOY.PK - news - people ) and Microsoft ( MSFT - news - people ) are pressing their advantage in those areas. Nintendo is bundling its latest game, "Wii Sports Resort," with an add-on that allows its WiiMote controller to pick up an even wider range of motion. Microsoft, meanwhile, is larding its Xbox Live online gaming service with movies, videogames and even live, interactive game shows.
>>>>( Oh I am soooo excited for these games!!! - sarcasm alert - I have a Wii but it is played the least by far of my 3 consoles. I hardly even have any games for it, that's how bad the situation is. I only play Wii sports or Mario Kart with friends and family once in a long while.)

[TheDeadMetalhead]

More "PS3 r doom" articles?

Some things never change...

[Russia208]

seriously this should have had a failed submission the minute he tried to post it.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

People said they price dropped too soon... then release their slim model too late?

no ones ever happy!

[keysy420]

these article still seem to come from what we have seen so far. their is room on the market fo r3 consoles. WE have also seen that the 360 came out a year ahead of the ps3 and that the ps3 has sold at a faster rate. we have also seen that the ps3 has done that at a price tag of twice the competitors. so why should anyone believe that the ps3witha 100 dollar price cut wont spur sales.

im not crazy but unless the world changes over night i think sony is gonna sell alot of ps3's. here's why people look at price as everything i wanted to get another ps3 and truthfully i could probably have found a used 60 gig for about 300 but i felt like that was too high( trippin ) but now that the rest of the ps3's are 300 the 60 gig looks like a steal for 300. point is the price makes people look at products differently something that before was a hell no is now looking like a hell yes .
we know tha tsony has the best games coming out xbots can try to argue but it aint now where near what the ps3 is bringing. ( ask a bot what they have been playing lately i can almost gaurentee it aint even from this year unless its a sport game.

the 360 isnt going to die off but i do believe it will no longer be the console for hardcore gaming.ps3 will take its spot.the games on the ps3 are jstu simply better than anything else we have ever seen before

by the way isnt the slim #1 on amazon

[lonix]

Microfudge makes up figures to that fanbots think that xbox 360 is doing really well

but it isnt

why hasnt anyone done graphics comparison on wolfenstein yet?

[lonix]

i could buy the cheapest car
eg hyundai getz

and compare it to a VW Golf

they bot have pretty much the same top speed

but i know which one id rather drive

[gamerzBEreal17]

TEN YEAR PLAN
we are only 3 years into this hole gen microsoft has 5 more years sony has 7 i mean you really have to stop being a fanboy this thing just started sonys first real excluseive was mgs4 and then lbp and then resistance2 that was 2008 2009 has uncharted2 infamous mlb the show09 GT5 210 has MAG rachet in clank a crack in time god of war3 last gardian heavry rain FF14 i mean the number of big excluseives gets bigger evry year what if 211 had twisted metal kingdom hearts sly4 Gta5 resistance2 killzone3 the list gose on and on and its only been 3 years

[Alex_Mexico]

let's show this "journalist" to do proper research before writing. Lets post on his comments section.

[FACTUAL evidence]

I guess the media is just that damn blind...did they forget the ps2 just went down to 99$!? yeah sony was never cheap...

[nostalgic_noob]

is mad that the PS3 is doing better now.

[JeffGUNZ]

Or maybe it just might be, uh-oh, here it comes, his OPINION. Jesus, people are not fanboys or shareholders for Microsoft just because they disagree with your opinion.

[abdullah nazhat]

It is just a poor article from one that seems to have a share hold in microsoft ,I think late is better than rushing things and have a high defect rate console ,peace

[nkaizer]

we finally have a price cut should be happy and its never to l8t for a price cut. its only to l8t if they stop making ps3 games....

[JustV]

What? LOOOL this article is a joke haha:) yeah its so late that people just pre-ordered like crazy on amazon... yeah maybe its always LATE...and maybe this is why Xbox is like: CRAP! what are we gonna do now?

[JeffGUNZ]

God. Take a breath and look at yourselves. It's VIDEOGAMES and all you NERDS make it out like it's the most important thing in the world. All the fanboys on this site make me laugh when they sit there and call someone else a fanboy! I guess anytime someone's opinion is different than yours or is not positive for the PS3, than they are biased and a fanboy. Hate to break it to you losers, but the price cut will surely boost sales but it will not push the PS3 past the 360. This price cut came WAY TOO LATE.

All of you, you are all hypocrites. You comment on how the 360 can only sell systems because they cut their price and now the PS3 does it because they are in dead last and can't move systems, and now they are brilliant?!?! You people sit here and complain people are on their 2nd Xbox because of RROD and most of you comment "I am going to get a second PS3 or a third PS3 now!" Why the f*ck would any of you waste your money on a skinnier PS3 when you already own a perfectly fine working PS3?! You nerds need to get lives, girlfriends, full time jobs and finish going through puberty. This is pathetic the way you think VIDEO GAMES are the most important thing in the world.

The only way the PS3 is going to win this generation or pass the 360 this generation is if XBOX's stop selling and last time I checked, they were the only console making profit this year and make a year to year growth. I hope the PS3 does well and sells a lot so more people can enjoy playing video games. But Jesus, you people are pathetic. Don't you ever wonder why you don't have a girlfriend/fiance/wife? Well, re-read some of your comments, that's why.

[JackBNimble]

"God. Take a breath and look at yourselves. It's VIDEOGAMES and all you NERDS make it out like it's the most important thing in the world. All the fanboys on this site make me laugh when they sit there and call someone else a fanboy"!

Hahahahaha.......did you really just say this?

Hey Sir Jeff....this is N4G, a gaming site.But your correct when you say "ALL FANBOY'S ON THIS SITE MAKE ME LAUGH WHEN THEY SIT THERE AND CALL SOMEONE ELSE A FANBOY"!

Get a life TROLL!

[JeffGUNZ]

Oh look, it's the king of the nerds! Thanks for solidifying my point, moron. Of course this is a video game site, what does that mean? I come to this site to see up and coming gameplay videos for games I am looking forward to. You nerds sit on here 24/7 and just bash the 360. I guess there is not much else to do in your parents basement. It's one thing to enjoy playing video games and to have it as a hobby and be interested in news related to that, but you idiots are over the top. Jesus, not one SDF comment on here is a well-thought and educated response.

You know how I can tell you're a giant nerd who has never touched a vag? You used the word "troll". Wow. Dude, you get a life, obviously I hit a nerve with you haha, you are exactly the piece of trash I am talking about that really needs to re-evaluate their life and put their controller down. Video games are great, but it's pathetic when you're THIS obsessed. Last time I checked, PS3 or 360 didn't sign the check for my mortgage. Grow up little boy and one day those pimples will go away and you will finally touch a woman. (Don't worry if she's fat, you got to start somewhere champ.)

[Morituri]

Upset, threatened, perhaps throwing a bit of an f-boy tantrum?

Methinks you doth protest too much.

[taylork37]

Some of you guys are being fairly hypocritical.

I'm sick of hearing some of the Sony fanboys cry about how every time something positive happens there are 360 fanboys and the media there to try and ruin it.

Welcome to the real world you bunch of little nancies.

Whenever something positive happens with the 360, you guys are right there playing the same pessimistic role. "OHHHH NATAL BLOWS.... THIS IS SUCH GIMMICK"

The PS3 is a better system, no doubt. I have both systems and it is easy to tell. But stop denying the facts. PS3 is not doing nearly as well, and there is a chance that the Slim is too little too late.It is not set in stone, but stop denying this because you are a PS3 love slave.

[baxy-z]

So before Rock Band, gaming was geeky... What a douchebag.

[ReBurn]

It's going to be interesting to see if this price drop is really what Sony needs to put the PS3 on top, especially if Microsoft and Nintendo drop their price. We'll soon know whether the masses were just waiting for a price cut or whether Sony has really lost the edge of market leader that they've held for the last 15 years or so.

[bigjclassic]

$299 PS3 is finally here and now they need to push commercials for MGS4, KZ2, Infamous, Uncharted and other great exclusives. Sony really needs to ADVETISE LIKE HELL NOW and maybe bundle one of these games with it.

Also PS3 has a some 2 real AAA killer apps that are about to drop (Gt5 and GoW3) and the $299 PS3 combination should help them out. The Wii still won this gen by miles, but Sony has a chance to overtake 360. 7 million is not alot to gloat about 360 fans. Just look at the gap between 360 and Wii.

And dont try that lame excuse that Wii is for *insert random crap*, Wii has great games for ALL gamers.

[JackBNimble]

Ok... Have I been playing a Rock Band imitation or what?I swear I bought RB2 for my PS3!

And what's this?.....Sony has no hope because they slashed the price of the ps3 that's packed with expensive technology to $300?......Wow they will surely fail!How much is a Blu-Ray player these days?

The least mature where it matters most?.... motion sensitive controllers and online gaming....Hmmm so much for the six axis and my free online gaming experience.

"Microsoft, meanwhile, is larding its Xbox Live online gaming service with movies, videogames and even live, interactive game shows".

Have I been dreaming?......I could have sworn the PSN had movies , games, and even interactive game shows like JEOPARDY!

[Sibs]

Well that's an improvement, we had easily a 12 hour gap between "teh ps3 is doomedddd" articles. I guess the price drop really will be effective.

[Luke Chisholm]

So, I made an account just to let you all know how much I laughed at this bullshit. It was an amusing read, and a waste of time.

Go Forbes Go! We love you!

[GeoramA]

Gotta give'em credit, the Microsoft-loving media sure doesn't waste any time.

[FF7numbaone]

NA media: sony is never right

Na media: The evil Japanese company has lower the price of their product but they should of kept it at 399.

[djroberts]

These guys say "Sony must drop there price" and now they say "price drop makes no difference". I wonder how Forbes did with anticipating the economic crash.

[3rik]

First off, I would like to say I do not own a PS3 and have been wanting one only recently (Heavy Rain looks very interesting). I know PS3 has the most powerful and reliable hardware, though I personally believe that the 360 has a better game library. I'm not saying that like it is gospel, but it if my personal opinion. I try not to be a fanboy, because I know that being a fanboy gets in the way of being a gamer. But I do have a slight problem with the comments of this article.

I have been in the site for a while, but don't comment that often. I mainly play my xbox, so I mostly read articles about it. And what annoys me when I see these articles and the comments on them is that no matter what the news is about, PS3 fanboys take a big dookie all over it. Now, I game to this article expecting a similar thing from xbox fanboys, but I didn't. I see more PS3 fanboys being babies and not being able to take any negative news about their messiah. Not only that, but a large amount of you are treating this article like it is a child's blog. It isn't. It is from Forbes. They are seeing this from a market standpoint, not from a gaming one. In the market, Wii is winning and PS3 is losing. From a gaming standpoint, Wii is losing and 360 and PS3 are more or less tied up, at least in my opinion.

I am excited about the price drop. It will make it a lot easier to get a PS3 and play some of the great games it provides (Heavy Rain!). But people are going to sh!t talk your system. It happens, and some of you guys needs to take that sh!t talking better.

[zok310]

WTF this guy is very ignorant, I'm surprised Forbes.com allowed this article on the web site.
Either they are funded by Microsoft/Nintendo and they see fit to use one of their funded outlets to trash Sony's move, but there is no way this person wrote this thinking that he was right.
This is just very bad, very biased, very corrupted, and very blatant mind manipulating journalism. This article was like reading propaganda, have major new/business media outlets really sunk to this level????? Forbes.com should be ashamed.

[skatezero246]

lol figures there would be a Sony hate article showing up considering all of the great news/games Sony has been announcing/publishing

[Darkfiber]

$299 for a system with a built in blu ray player and wifi and 120gb hd? Isn't that cheaper than the elite, which has none of that?

[Meryl]

yes we all now can definately argue that the new ps3 is cheaper than the xbox 360 with all of its features,sony really have spoilt us all by making this great move now even more people will be able to afford to jump on the ps3 band wagon and trust me alot more ppl will definatley jump on ps3 now.
bas luck ms, thanks for trying but, sony was never gonna take all this abuse silently.
i just hope ppl realise now that ps3 is definately the best choice now.

[Legionaire2005]

Due to a lot of built-in features in the PS3, you don't need to spend a lot on accesories. $300 dollars with a 120g drive is the best deal ever for a game console!!!! Not even the 360 $200 with no hard drive can't even compete. If you want to upgrade the 360 arcade edition you still need to pay $200 to $300 more in accesories which is not a great deal if you think about it. PS3 always had the best deal no matter the price from $300 to $500!!! Who wants to pay $400 dollars for a Xbox360 Elite with a 120g, ($150 dollars separately for 120g) when you can pay 100 dollars less for a PS3 Slim with all the blu-ray features and a 120g!!! Online is free, and the internet browser is free!!!(the Wii version you have to pay 10 bucks at first!!! a lot of people forget that fact)NUFF SAID!!!

[Smootherkuzz]

Blu Ray Players now $99 or less so yes the price has to drop, alot of people payed the high cost of the PS3 just for a gaming unit that played blu ray discs and with the hopes that games would come on blu discs and Sony and other manufactures stand alone blu ray players sold for a much high price. Now that blu ray players are much cheaper why pay the high price of PS3 just for blu ray, I am alittle concerned about the slim box because that means cheaper parts not the best parts that the original unit was engineered with, sometimes sub parts do not function as good and do not last as long. Time will tell.

[Iceman100]

aside from almost nobody buying the system anymore in japan they drop the price for the 4th time, so they can lose more money hoping people will buy it?

[Ldubbz]

So many of you on here almost crying because of some guy on forbes.com? The guy didnt call the PS3 a failure, just said the move was maybe a little too late. Which may be true. You are all too busy arguing over whether this is a good value, etc. All of that is part of it, but the bigger question is will this help them move systems at a much faster clip, faster than its rivals? Its very open to debate and not a slam-dunk like so many of you assume it is.

Funny that all of the responses to this article will get it MORE attention as its moved to the top of the N4G page...

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[bobdog626]

what is that?

[vader1231231]

It's a failed face palm. :P

I didn't know it'd come out like that.

[bobdog626]

Im waiting for Tekken to come out .If it's better on the PS3 i will buy one then . If not i will wait for God of War to come out. I Will get one then and that's on the Real.

[Scary69]

Better late then never. People seriously need to write better news that matters not the same old poop.

This is for Forbes

[Kushaholic]

people on this site love flaming the ps3. Why? i think its a pretty good console

[chriski333]

to little to late wow this guy is a dumb @ss

[PimplePopperMD]

Even Forbes hires idiots.

Get educated.

[Shnazzyone]

I can't believe now the highest degree submission of my contributor career has to be this god awful forbes article. I'm just glad i brought this gem to the n4g community so they can send him a million angry letters.

I actually want to know how old this guy is because he has predicted doom for apple for years. He seems completely out of touch with tech. In the end this slim upgrade has a slight chance to push PS3 into 2nd place at least for a short time. I just worry... anyone else remember all the burnt out ps2 slims? because i know i have personal knowledge of such things happening and I just don't get how they made the space heater that is the ps3 smaller and yet not absolutely melt after 3 hours of gameplay.

Maybe Sony is going to try the microsoft route and make systems that fail so people have to keep buying them. That way there is artificial inflation of sales numbers due to numerous repeat sales.

Well... that's my last word on this article because sony kids killed my bubbles. Is it any wonder some writers hate on sony when the children of the sony "revolution" are so bloody annoying and flat out unreasonable. IF you ask me you sony kids are asking for articles like this. It gives you something to do while you wait for one more title that you can have that you can't get on 360 too.

Wii rox! LOL!

the funniest part of this is how many disagrees and bubble pops i'm going to get now. Mostly from people who read the wii rox part. Gotta love N4g.

One more thing... since i've read this throughout these comments... Statistically... wii has a 3% failure rate and PS3 has a 10% failure rate. Wii is the most reliable console of this gen. Not the ps3. Unless your still a d-bag who doesn't consider the wii "part of this gen" reguardless of the fact it has the most quality next generation games coming for it.