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"The days of consoles are numbered" claim PC bosses

Printer/scanner superstar Hewlett-Packard showed off its plans to enter the PC gaming market last night, and unsurprisingly there was an air of hostility towards those old-fangled games consoles the kids are talking about these days.

The first snipes came from a panel of industry leaders that included Games for Windows boss Rich Wickham and other gaming bods. "I believe the days of the console are numbered," said Trion World Network founder Lars Butler. "There is one more generation of gaming consoles and that is it," he claimed.

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ASSASSYN 36o - 987 days 11 hours ago

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Yeagh yeagh we read this story before. The end of the world type deal. Console will one day be struck by a metor yadda yadda. Doomsday is almost here whoop-dee-doo.

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ben hates you - 987 days 2 hours ago

1.1 - so old

i've heard rumors of the pc gaming going to end now this who cares

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deep - 987 days 10 hours ago

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ASs360...yeah we read a stupid article like this before...but this one is new with HP's new game initiative.

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shotty - 987 days 10 hours ago

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Well consoles are becoming more like PCs so its a natural evolution towards consoles as we knew them 5 years ago might towards multimedia pcs.

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Sphinx - 987 days 10 hours ago

4 - Computers won't replace consoles for 1 reason alone

People don't want to play their games on a computer screen all the time. They want to hook it up to their 42" HDTV.

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fenderputty - 987 days 9 hours ago

4.1 - I totally agree with you

Another reason why is that, most people don't want to change out graphics cards and update their comps all the time to play new games. With a console you just buy it and are good for 5-7 years. The average gamer isn't all that hardcore and prefers ease of use. I think, in a lot of way, this is why consoles are taking additional routes other then gaming. They've added movie playback, internet browsing and other media driven aspects to consoles to appeal on a longer lasting level then just games. All consoles are doing this. To be honest, it makes a lot of sence.

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ITR - 987 days 9 hours ago

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The problem with that is most PC manufacturers are already making 30-40inch LCD's which will include HD sooner or later. I believe Apple has an HD LCD coming out this yr. Probably to go along with it's Apple TV unit which is already HDMI ready.

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Rooted_Dust - 987 days 8 hours ago

4.3 - ...

It's really about how close you are to the monitor. When your sitting about a foot away from your Pc monitor, a 22" LCD screen will take up most of your field of vision, but if your sitting 10 feet away you need a bigger screen. And how many people really have 42" televisions anyway?

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Rooted_Dust - 987 days 8 hours ago

4.4 - IRT

High Defenition is really only a resolution ex(1280 X 720). PC's have had high definition longer than TV's have.

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TheExecutive - 987 days 8 hours ago

4.5 - Yep..

Although I can plug my PC into my 61" I still love 1.) the couch 2.) the controllers... It is just so much more comfortable.

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Mikey_Gee - 987 days 6 hours ago

4.6 - Do not agree.

I don't want to play on a 42" HDTV .... I want to play on my 1080p 61" HDTV ........

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My lazy boy, a beer, wireless controller and a game is awsome. I love my PC as well, but my PC and Console server two different functions for me. My PC is for work and online research but my console is for fun. I don't ever see having a bunch of the guys over for beer and pizza and games and then huddling around my PC down in the bedroom while my living room with my big screen and home theater set-up just sits and does nothing.

Console WILL NOT be the death of PC
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PC WILL NOT be the death of Console

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deep - 987 days 10 hours ago

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I think the boundary between consoles and PC's will blur...if HP release these things that are for gaming, then what makes them a PC. It's very strange. A table with a screen for everyone to play? Is that a PC or a console? So really they destroy their argument before they get going.

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Neutral Gamer - 987 days 10 hours ago

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They've been saying this for years now while consoles have only got more and more popular. I used to be a PC gamer but got sick of having to upgrade or buy a new computer to keep up with the gaming world.

Consoles will never look better than their high end PC counterparts as new components are coming out for them all the time, but life sure is easier with a console and at least you know your game will work and look the same on every console (barring Backwards Compatability issues of course).

Anyway, with consoles offering more and more PC style servies; web browsing, media viewing and management, online communities, even operating systems (Linux on PS3 for example), the line between PC's and consoles will get smaller and smaller.

So in that logic maybe the days of PC's AND consoles are numbered, maybe in the future we'll all be using some kind of Toyota style hybrid!

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Sphinx - 987 days 10 hours ago

6.1 - What shall this hybrid be called?

I'm guessing it'll still be considered a console, just like facial tissues are called Kleenex no matter who their made by.

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Neutral Gamer - 987 days 10 hours ago

6.3 -

PConsole
P4WNSole
Prius ?!

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Neutral Gamer - 987 days 10 hours ago

6.4 - Thanks THWIP ...

... really appreciate it mate! :p

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sajj316 - 987 days 9 hours ago

6.5 - nice one ....

I'm guessing it'll still be considered a console, just like facial tissues are called Kleenex no matter who their made by. - Sphinx

My thoughts exactly. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it might be a duck. I don't care if you call it a chicken. People eat more chicken anyway.

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darx - 987 days 10 hours ago

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If I can't play while laxing in my La Z Boy than I am not interested.

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Sphinx - 987 days 8 hours ago

7.1 - Exactly!

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Who wants to sit in an office chair in the office? Most people probably want the ability to move their console to different TVs and not be stuck to the desk.

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Rooted_Dust - 987 days 8 hours ago

7.2 - Think outside the box

It may not be that consoles change but that PC's will change and every TV in your house will be hooked to your PC, and you will have one platform for running everything from games to watching television. In the end wouldn't you wan't some thing that can perform multiple functions better and faster than a console that can only be used for a single function

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Black Republican - 987 days 9 hours ago

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consoles will never die

unless somebody bombed all of sony and all of microsoft and all of a nintendo

this is an industry that makes more $$$$ then hollywood, do pc bosses know that???

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neogeo - 987 days 9 hours ago

9 - Lets's see

My PS3 can run linix, A keyboard and mouse, Wifi, A harddrive, Memory cards. Yep, its a computer alright. I think what HP was trying to say, is there gaming stuff will one day rule us all! Truth is HP will be long forgotten in 10 years, while Sony and Microsoft will have the best gaming PC's on earth.

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shotputking - 987 days 9 hours ago

10 - nah

there will always be a market for consoles. there will always be parents who just want to buy a console that their kids can play without supervision. you just can't overestimate the importance of accessability, and the ease of which a console can be used.

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Adamalicious - 987 days 9 hours ago

11 - Whatev HP - Consoles Forever!

The reason I play games on console and not on PCs (primarily anyway) is that for less than the cost of a decent gaming rig that will at the very most last 2 maybe 3 years I can buy every major console which tend to last around 5 years or more. This gives me access to a very wide array of games and lets me play them on my couch! I don't want to upgrade my hardware every year or so - I want to invest in it, get my money's worth and replace it when the next-gen comes along.

Whatev HP.

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kewlkat007 - 987 days 9 hours ago

12 - Think about

When we talk about consoles these days we mention, Cell processor, Multi-Cores and other PC technologies.

Consoles todays are just computers now. No difference. Even Sony was claiming the PS3 is a super computer or can replace your home pc or something like that. Ofcourse this is not the direction its going because it is already there.

Consoles have Memory Card Readers,DVD Rom Drives, Memory, Connectivity ports and everything a PC has except its not scalable.

We all could benefit from Consoles, if they scalable. Imagine keeping up with the latest and best technology, at least for 3 years. Adding more RAM, changing the GPU, upgrading HDDs and such..

Personally I think Console makers are imitate computers in a sense.(web browsing and other things).Just give us a computer that does it all and is not $2,000 dollars.

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Black Republican - 987 days 9 hours ago

12.2 - THWIP

WELL SAID...

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leon - 987 days 9 hours ago

13 - i cant stop laughing

any one remember the pipin ?

MS are the only ones that have gone from pc to console and made the transition.

this HP guy realy needs a head check.
one more generation left, lmfao
this has all been said since the days of the snes

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Lacarious - 987 days 9 hours ago

14 - PC Gaming Taking a Thrashing

seriously.... who here thinks HP can do gaming right?

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Black Republican - 987 days 9 hours ago

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HP would go out of business before Sony/Microsoft/Nintnedo...

That's all I need to say...

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kewlkat007 - 987 days 8 hours ago

15.1 - Hmm NAsty

I wouldn't go that far...

HP has rebounded and it would take a major debacle for then to go under.
They are Market leaders in a lot of peripherals. Printers for one, servers, laptop(overtook Dell), and others.

See the people that make gaming software, who knows might be using HP computers/servers at their place.

See people have options now in the Console world(unlike the 10 year Sony rule),so who knows who might go under. The world needs computers not gaming consoles..

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JasonXE - 987 days 8 hours ago

16 - instant play

I like putting my cd in the disk tray and be able to play instantly. I'm not waiting installing, downloading numerous patches, and overload my hard drive with games.

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Hayabusa 117 - 987 days 8 hours ago

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And once the PS4/XBox Universe are classified as "PCs" We'll have the Wii 2...

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Silverwolf - 987 days 8 hours ago

18 - It doesn't matter

How much advance crap HP puts on a case developers will still develop for the lower denominator and plus 100 more different PC comfigurations. PC's want to be so advance in graphics that they leave behind the consumer every 6 months or so. Great in terms of advancement but not so great for the consumers wallet. I know there be a few PC gamers out there that'll say "well you can lower the settings". To them I say kiss my a$$, if I spend 50+ dollars on a games it's to be played the way it's supposed to. THAT's why consoles will also be the kings of gaming.

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Rooted_Dust - 987 days 8 hours ago

18.1 - ....

And thats why you won't see an advance for another six years.

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Silverwolf - 987 days 5 hours ago

18.2 - And that's

how i prefer it!!! Give me more efficient game engines and quit milking me for more hardware money.

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Rockstar - 987 days 8 hours ago

19 - PC's...

PC's are always going to be better for gaming (if thats the focus of your rig) but there is alot to be said for the console experience. It just does more for me. 19 inch LCD and a computer chair or a 50 inch plasma and a nice comfy couch, console wins my vote. After 5 hours of playing WOW I like to relax on the couch, you get the drift.

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jedicurt - 987 days 8 hours ago

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funny considering that the original panel of market annalists who came up with the Desktop PC idea, said that it would not have a life span of more than 12 years. and we are far beyond that point.

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MySwordIsHeavenly - 987 days 8 hours ago

21 - haha

Has anyone seen the new VF5 commercials where they say out now for the "playstation 3 computer entertainment system"? That's a terrible name! Maybe they're still on their PC ideas though. With HOME, i dont think it's too far away either. It's a super-computer! I totally think 600 bucks is worth it. Best graphics card, best processor, and NO LAG!

I love it...

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MetalProxy - 987 days 8 hours ago

22 - HP yea right! They are a joke.

I dont want to update my stupid computer every other week. I could list about fifty reasons why PC wont take over consoles.

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LightofDarkness - 987 days 8 hours ago

23 - I'm afraid I agree with HP's sentiment

While they won't liekly be the linchpin that merges pc and console as one, these sort of initiatives are picking up steam. Consoles WILL die out, all computers for entertainment or even work are moving toward unified platforms. People here have been raising moot points about displays and what not, but displays are moving the same way, HD displays are including a 9-pin DSUB VGA connection or two these days, with PC mode and gaming and movie mode built into them. The technology behind HDTV and a PC monitor is VERY similar, just because it has HD slapped on before it doesn't make it so vastly incompatible that it would blow the power out in your whole neighbourhood if an incorrect connection was made (High Definition = High Resolution for all intents and purposes). Heck, I use a 28" Samsung LE26R72B HD Ready Display as both TV and monitor already. Plus, it plays my PS3 over HDMI, 360 over VGA and Wii over component. What a happy set up. But as per my original point, processors are getting more kick out of smaller parts, and eventually we'll all have our PC about the size of a small CD player that can perform many gigaflops faster thanks to multi-threaded applications (look at Intel's 80-core Teraflop processor, which is expected to completely downsize computers). Keep an open mind, a unified gaming/multimedia platform may be the best thing for all of us.

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Premonition - 987 days 8 hours ago

24 - as long

As long as consoles stay cheaper then PC gaming rigs aka the DELL Renegade, then we should be around for years and years.

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DirtySyko - 987 days 7 hours ago

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Nobody wants to spend money every year to keep their PC updated so it can play the next year's batch of games. And, if anything, console gaming has been on the decline. It seems the only thing people flock towards anymore are MMORPG games for the PC, which are trying to migrate over to consoles as well.

Also, like it's already been said, consoles are evolving into more than just a video game platform these days. They can be used as a media center, they have browsers, you have online play, and next generation will just bring in more features. Plus, you get that nice advantage of playing on a big HDTV. My friend and I used to play FFXI, he played on his PC right next to me, and I played on my 30' HDTV on the Xbox 360. It looked way sexier on the television, (even though it's not a game that looks that great to begin with.)

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Ps3007 - 987 days 7 hours ago

26 - Whats the point of a console other than its cheap?

My PC plays on my HDTV dont know whats wrong with all of yours.

You can buy controllers for PC (even the 360 one), it will play every game better than ANY console.

Its cheaper. Once you have a home built system with a PCI/AGP slot you dont need to upgrade things every single time. Pop in the newest video card and your off and running.

I can add a 8800 gts for 400.00 to my 2 year old self built computer.. Thats cheaper than the elite and would run faster... But believe what you want to believe.

Ill take my PC over a console any day.

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Monchichi025 - 987 days 7 hours ago

28 - Maybe it's the other way around????

Maybe now that Consoles are becoming more and more like Computers, it will be the consoles taking out the PC. Think about it, we'll have everything at the convienance of the couch..... and have a laptop for everything else. That's what I would perfer!

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Killer B - 987 days 7 hours ago

29 - IDK...

Here's my take: I've just spend a couple of hundred dollars to upgrade my 6 month old PC so that I could play Supreme Commander... I have to admit it was the first PC game I've played since I got my xbox 360 in Jan 06. However, over the last 12 years or more I was a dedicated PC gamer. Even after I bought a PS2 and Xbox, I still played a lot of PC games. But I am finding that I enjoy the easy and confort (and the games) of a console much more nowadays. And after dropping roughly the price of a new console on PC upgrades, I vowed never to do it again. SupCom was worth it, but it's going to take one hellava PC game for me to do it again. Plus w/ all the great console games coming out this year...I think I'll be plenty entertained. Not to mention, a fraction of the boot-up time, OS updates, etc..

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zonetrooper5 - 987 days 7 hours ago

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Neither PC's or consoles will die out, there will always be people who want to buy a console and there will always been some people who want to buy new PC's or want to upgrade their computer. What HP are saying is very stupid.

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