Renewed Motion Controller design shown at TGS 09

PS3-Sense writes: It was pretty obvious that when the Motion Controller was first shown during E3 2009 it wasn't the final design. But the controller showed during presentations at the Tokyo GameShow 2009 probably is. PS3-Sense compared the two designs, and click the link below to see what the differences are.

[Milky]

Second controller with analogue stick on the way I hope.

[renegade]

I hope . Is difficult to have the ds3 at the same time as i seen in re5 demostration of the motion controller.

[DominusRebellis]

That things looks sort of like a.....

[dirthurts]

That you still had to use the ps3 controller in the left hand...
or at least so far. I know it's still in prototype stage.

[shadow2797]

There should only be one controller, and it should have an analogue stick. When using two then you would have two analogue sticks. And that way you're not stuck with a useless nun-chuck on games that don't need it. Owning two would allow you to do multiplayer or single player (like the bow and arrow demo).

You could also do FPS games and other games with one controller. Move with the stick (using your thumb), and turn by turning the controller. You could do co-op 3d games (instead of co-op on rails aka shooting galleries).

That would be the smart thing to do. But, at the very least, there does need to be an analogue peripheral. Holding a D3 and a motion controller is not acceptable. It would be nice if there weren't a ton of accessories for this, so I prefer my original idea. Hopefully Sony will be smart about this.

[RememberThe357]

On stage at TGS they were using both the dualshock in one hand and the motion controller in the other. But I don't think it was confirmed that you will need it to play or if they will have something else to use. Seemed to me that you'll just have to use the dualshoack sometimes.

[Aquarius]

Everyone, I don't care, that says its a dildo are not using their head straight or is a 360 only owner being spiteful. The Wands do not look like a dildo. How ironic, I just called it wands first and foremost. I hope its called that :)

How the hell is the top of the wand i.e. (ORB) shaped like a dildo? Is the tip of a dildo shaped like that? You know a man's...
ANS=NO.

The only thing that needs adjusting now, is to remove that pink filter and change that central button into an analougue stick ( >>>a pop-up one?<<< ) because game development will most likely be put on a halt.

[mastiffchild]

The DS3 looks amateur, isn't comfy, would be too awwgward for kids to use and only has the adcantage of being the cheap option, imo.

If they want this to be successful they'll need something else with an analogue stick I'm afraid as the DS3 isn't going to appeal as the secong controller-why choose to use it as one of a pair when you can use it on it's own in the way it was meant to be used anyway? Ninchick or similar is desperately needed and Sony's comments about this being a cheap option worry me no end and if the DS is their only option I fear all the R&D for their wands will be wasted.

Thing is there's literally loads of different Wii nunchucks made by third party controller designers which cost US peanuts so why haven't Sony knocked smething up to hold the analogue if they wanted one? Would be so easy and the fact they haven't makes me think the DS might be their real anwer to the problem and it makes their MC scheme the least attractive if this is the case-can't believe this is a problem being talked about as it's so obvious this isn't a goer that Sony must be blind if they really think it's the best way-why even show someone using the DS3?

None of this makes any sense and I'd hoped that Sony would've said what they were doing after the press asked about the DS3 thing but they didn't hace much if an answer which makes me think there may not be another one at all. Unbelievable, but with nothing else to show or even mentioned what are we meant to imagine?

[danthegardner]

They should just make a motion controller with 2 shoulder buttons an analog stick and 4 face buttons. If you use 2 of them you could play any other ps3 game. It would be like a dualshock split in two.

[whoelse]

I think the first one looks better.

[DaTruth]

They should put everything that is on the DS3, on the wand. That means there should be one with face buttons and one with D-pad(or face buttons D-pad combination) They should put a trigger on each and a shoulder button. They can drop the D-pad at best OR the shoulder button, but that is the most stripped down it can be.

This is the only way to make it hardcore compatible!

[Highwayman]

Aquarius.

Apparently you haven't seen many dildos, have you?

I'm not fond of it's design, but I am excited as far as the technology goes for this particular motion control system.

[DominusRebellis]

as long as it has good vibration I think it'll get my girlfriend to spend time with me when I game on

[beardpapa]

My friend and I went shopping and we stopped by Brookstone. We both came upon this product

http://www.brookstone.com/c...

Now if you saw it in person, the shape and design of it plus the pink tip looks very very much like a d___o. It even has three vibration settings and is waterproof. Anyway, she bought one for laughs.

[WenisWagon]

I think the pink ball at the end is the part that vibrates.

[MEsoJD]

Yeah they market as a massager but we all know what its intended purpose is.

[HolyOrangeCows]

It NEEDS a control stick for the experiences I want in a motion controlled game.

[Electricear]

because there is a major feature missing, a wrist strap. Far to many TV's, doors, windows, lamps and people got mauled when wii motes slipped out of a sweaty hand. Neither of these designs show wrist straps, thus I have trouble believing they are the final design, but it does look like the newer design is closer to a production model.

[bobdog626]

And you guy's know it .Sony don't put this Thing out until you get it Right.Put all your Best people on this and make it work.This is not the Best you can do.PS3 Slim should show you guys the Right way to do thing's this gen not this.

[f789790]

Looks like some exotic vibrator.

[YogiBear]

I think they should do away with the motion control project completely.

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

The shorter one looks a lot better then the "finalised" version. It even had a smaller sphere!

[sinncross]

Are you kidding me?

The new one looks better shaped.

[Shane Kim]

Doesn't matter. It still looks like a dildo.

[MKV]

LOL and that is coming from a sony fan.

[Shane Kim]

And so if I'm a sony fanboy? I'm I not entitled to my opinions?

[SeanScythe]

Oh snap Pwnage right there, nice one marcus j

[Foxgod]

O yeah, surely doesnt look like a dildo anymore -_-

I remember all the people on n4g screaming, ITS ONLY A PROTOTYPE.
No more prototype, and still a dildo.

At least Natal is awesome, cuz you are the controller, instead of having a dildo peripheral.

[XxBarretxX]

i am not a fanboy as i own both consoles but natal is pure casual. No buttons to switch things such as grenades or anytihng as well as some terrible lag as shown in the latest videos. Sorry but Natal will fail

[Foxgod]

If it will, it still wont fail as hard as the sony dildo.
Cuz at least Natal got people like Kojima backing it.

You dont see Kojima talking how bad he wants to get his hands on the sony dildo.

[Panthers]

They will both fail. Both are trying to play catch up to the Wii which is dumb. If I want motion control, I will get the Wii, which I dont.

[Foxgod]

The wii doesnt have kojima ;)

Or Peter Molyneux

Natal got the masterminds backing it.
So if theres any system that got a chance for success, then its the system that got the great minds backing it.

@below
Kojima and Molyneux are not responsible for RROD you know....
They are responsible for games.
So plz come with something relevant next time, youre just trowing random rambling my way.

And youre tired of the sexual references?
Then send an angry letter to Sony, they designed it like that, its design is massive fail.
And if you cant draw a line between the wand and a dildo, then you must be the most asexual gamer ever.

[Serg]

What's your sudden obsession with Kojima? He was all over the Wii before it came out, was so eager to make a game for it, nothing happened to this day. So, how exactly is he backing it? By saying he likes it?

Molyneux is a moron, he disappoints everytime he opens his mouth. He puts out decent games but tries to sell them as gods gift to gamers. Black and White was disappointing, not because it sucked, but because it didn't deliver half the stuff Molyneux has promised. The first Fable sucked bad, but Mr Molyneux said it was the best RPG ever! It couldn't hold a candle to the Gothic series. No open world, the moral choice system was incomplete, some Monsters could keep you on the ground until you die, no chance to get up. It was an avarage game, but not that god sent holy grail of RPG goodness he promised. And he just can't shut his mouth, "Milo is like a real boy", yeah right Mr Overpromise, I believe you now, after countless lies I truly feel you got it right this time.

[ReviewsArePolitics]

Grow up, retard

[Foliage]

With Natal YOU are the dildo. You are a dildo without a cause, since the only time an xbot will ever get near a vagina in their lives was when they dropped out of their mom.

[Veneno]

Seems to know all about the dildos. Does it look like the one in your dresser drawer, foxgod?

[Microsoft_Spokesman]

Foxgod is just excited to rape Milo.

[Erotic Sheep]

Oh ok Foxgod, so you've been claiming for ages how MGS4 sucks and how its just a movie. But now that Kojima is working for Natal, you suddenly praise him?

GTFO NOOB

Are you anticipating Gay Tony's release Foxgod?

[Panthers]

I havent kept up with this, but why is there a ball on it? It looks so dumb.

[somedude5892]

The ball is part of the sensor to track your hand's movement if I remember right. But yea it dose look kinda dumb.

[Sunny_D]

In the developer's video, It was talking about how the ball changes color to indicate the target on screen. For example, If the target was red, the ball would light up red indicating attack the red enemy. If the enemy is green, the ball would light up green to indicate attacking green.

[spectyre]

but I guess that is what is tracked by the PSEye. Accelerometers and gyroscopes will be used to determine how the controller is turned and moved but the ball is used to determine where the controller is located in a 3d space.
The color changing led's are just an added bonus.

As I said, it looks kind of dumb, but it is the main reason the controller is as accurate as it is, so I guess I will live with it.

[DaTruth]

Who cares what it looks like???

Are you taking it to the club?

Just let it play right!

[kwyjibo]

The ball is there so the camera has a focus point to detect depth. Knowing that the ball is a constant size allows the machine to calculate how far away it is from the camera.

[somedude5892]

Yep, really dose look like a dildo. I will be getting one for my GF when is comes out. This is going to be better than the Wii-Brator!

[Chubear]

If that's the kind of gifts you get your "GF" then I truly feel sorry for her being with you... but then again, she's with you so she probably deserves all she gets.

[somedude5892]

lol... I'm kidding really. That would be messed up if I did that. I would feel sorry for her too. haha :P

[SeanScythe]

But if she asked you for one I bet you would be more then happy to get it for her.

[crck]

I honestly can't believe Sony is going to release something that looks like that to the gaming public. It looks like a wand from an anime magic girl show... Does the bulb really need to be that big? And couldn't they have at least encased it in a clear plastic cover or something?

[Cadence]

hey natal is the same thing as the eyetoy, i didn't like the eyetoy and i don't think this one is going to do much progress.

[Foxgod]

Well, it some way it is.

The eyetoy is like natal, like the Pentium 4 is like an I7.

Both the p4 and the i7 are x86 processors, but the i7 makes the p4 look like it came from the stoneage.

@below
I am not surprised, you dont see the connection between the sony wand and a dildo either, and believe me, your the only one on that.

Now, Eyetoy got lower specs then Natal, in terms of processing power and camera technology.
Just like the P4 got lower specs then the I7.

Understand the connection now?

[ReviewsArePolitics]

"Both the p4 and the i7 are x86 processors, but the i7 makes the p4 look like it came from the stoneage."

LMAO @ the hyperbole, go cry elsewhere dipsh1t

[Boty]

Natal is like an IDE device. Were as everything needed to run Natal is there on the Natal media and The EyeToy is like a hard drive without the integrated Controller on it. Everything the EyeToy needs is on the PlayStation Console, So The EyeToy has 8 cores and a GPU to work with. So your logic is wrong.

Natal is the same as a PlayStation Eye just with a different name.

[Droid Control]

or is it?

[Sunny_D]

It can change the color of your choice. :)

[Foxgod]

Great, blue dildo, green dildo, red dildo, yellow dildo.

-_-

@below
No, i didnt disagree, but i will add another disagree anyway.
I didnt design the wand, and i sure as hell wouldnt buy it, your the one who will walk out of the store with a red face and a suggestive object under your arm.

Edit
No need to, youl only make friends when you get a 360, and youl get true motion sensing.
But hey, if your ashamed of something that is actually good, i can help you to a good shrink.

[dustgavin]

Not sure about your experience with dildos but you seem to be quite certain about this design looking like one. Who pointed it out first? You or your boyfriend?

Edit: You disagree? Clearly, you are obsessed with dildos as your comments on this page show.

[dustgavin]

"your the one who will walk out of the store with a red face and a suggestive object under your arm."

Sorry, but I do not plan on investing in a 360 anytime soon.

"No need to, youl only make friends when you get a 360, and youl get true motion sensing."

Looks like you need to invest in earning your GED before running your mouth on the boards.

[xaviertooth]

oh hey... the 360 has its own glow

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Micro$oft didn't want to have a controller(for their Project Fatal)because the ChatBots would have got them stuck up their Bottoms!!! ;-D

'RedNeckXbot 1' to 'RedNeckXbot 2' - "Is the Light still Glowing?"

'RedNeckXbot 2' to 'RedNeckXbot 1' - "YEAH!!! Now SQUEAL PIGGY!!!" ;-D

[Foxgod]

YEs, that makes sense, Sony designs a dildo, and you act like MS fans would shove it up their ass.

Great logic.

[CaptainMarvelQ8]

if the finalized version would have a ball as big as this on it i assume that it would easily break
hope they reduce it's size!

[Foxgod]

Kojima, Peter Molyneux.

Nuff said.

The wii only got one mastermind backing, and thats Miyamoto.
But theres only so much one man can do, i am sure two man can do more for motion sensing.

Now, who's backing the wand?

[infamous_27]

what?

[Foxgod]

Yes, i see, you would do great in politics.

Mr president, what are the current affairs on social security?
Infamous: WHAT?!?!

Then what about health insurances...
Infamous: WHAT?!?!?!

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

say Hi!

[MKV]

Why is the top light bulb thing pink?

I wish it looked more hardcore.

[jack who]

i lol'd

[Sunny_D]

OMFG LOL!

[Cadence]

this new devices was made for girls am pretty sure about it,i think sony went to far by the looks of it, i mean look at it, is a super dildo with dualshock 4<.<, is my girl brakes up with me i know who to sue for this.

[Feral Gamer]

The wand looks fugly. Who wants a color changing glowing orb on it? couldn't they just implement motion control some other way?

[Foxgod]

They could do it without a controller.......

[Serg]

Eh... they did... in fact, if you leave out the "Wand", you have a PSEye and can play Eyetoy games with it...

[Foxgod]

Yes, but it aint motion sensing, its basically 2d plane recognition.
They added the wand to make it capable of tracking motion.

Otherwise they wouldnt even have to add the wand, now would they.

@below
No, they added the camera cuz the pseye is not capable of motion tracking.
Hence the big bulb, the camera in the pseye just isnt very good, Natal can even track fingers, and Pseye needs a big glowing light or it cant track anything.

[Sunny_D]

They added the wand, because people don't want to have air to grab on to when they could hold something. Face it, would you feel like playing with a real gun or a pretend to have a gun? It would be pretty empty, if they didn't. I notice, people say that holding the sixxis was so light that it felt like your holding air and the 360 controller was soo good because it was heavy, but Natal you use air itself, but nobody is complaining here.

[Serg]

"Yes, but it aint motion sensing, its basically 2d plane recognition."

...

I'm speechless...

Hey have you heard, when the PSEye tracks your hands and head, it's not motion sensing/tracking. It's plane recognition!

http://www.brainyquote.com/...

If you want to discuss something, gather information before you start typing, it's not that funny anymore watching you make a moron of yourself.

Edit:

There is no question that Natal uses different/superior technology to the PSEye. The point is, you have all this fancy stuff in the box, but it is useless for hardcore games. It lacks precision in both triggering and motion. You can't play any game with it where you need to shoot. Well, that leaves you with 20% of all hardcore games where it would work "good", not well, not perfect. Sony has experimented with the technology and came to the conclusion that it wouldn't add anything new to the table for the hardcore. You need a trigger, you need fast reaction, you need something in your hands to play for hours, as hardcore gamers usually do.

Natal is PSEye 1.5, nothing more. It can do some new stuff, but with the same tools.

You could say it is an upgrade like a wooden hammer to an iron hammer, it does the job better, but it has the same functionality.

[maxcer]

@sunnyd

who's is stopping you from using anything in your household as a tactile object that you so desperately need? and what about the possibility of using natal "with" a controller? that is where i can see the technology going, being used in conjunction.

[scott182]

You do understand that ms's selling point with natal is hands free gaming right? Think about that for a while. Also as far as the eye toy is concerned you can pet the eye pet on a 3d plane using your hands, so the wand is not completely necessary, and even though it looks like a sex toy it still should be fun with games.

[shutupandplay]

Wow. I would be straight up embarrassed trying to defend that thing. But hey, don`t let me stop you ps3 fanboys.

[DigitalEnemy]

Apart from looking like a dildo, this can't be the final design , it's soo ugly and doesn't go with the Playstation aesthetics at all. Should make it more sleeker kinda like the wiimote , just anything apart from those stupid ball spheres!!!

[Bzone24]

Did you design this thing MAiKU? You are getting pretty defensive when people truthfully say it looks like a dildo.

[Ripyealip]

wats the point of thier being a ball at the top of it?
y not just put a lighting up PS logo on it that changes colour.

[dustgavin]

I do agree that the bulb does not look good. They should find some way to integrate it into the controller better. I was under the impression that it has to do with the motion tracking and precision.

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

They can't hide it too much because the point of the big lighted bulb is for the camera to ignore your head and only focus on the controller. As you should know, the controller's using the head tracking device of the camera to fallow every movements of it. If they hide it too much then it could get less accurate because the camera could lost the target easily with quick movements.

But that doesn't mean that they can't find other alternatives but, right now that's the purpose of the giant sphere.

[jack who]

still better than

[dustgavin]

or

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

I don't know but in my opinion that boomerang controller looked awesome! Sony should release a special edition or something of that controller because I want it! And in that color it look so good... =D

BTW I clicked the agree button on @dustgavin and for some reason it translated into a disagree...

[THC CELL]

better than

[dustgavin]

Haha! Nice.

[THC CELL]

im supporting sony on this one 100%
i see some great games coming

[Bigpappy]

Please use blue or green or even white. Pink is a girl color. They are lots of guys who will refuse to touch it with that pink bulb on top.

[Shadowstar]

The color in the ball can change based on the game...

[koston3647]

honestly, you walk in on your buddy sitting down playing with natal, automatically think he's losing his mind. nuff said

[jhani]

But the finale design must different. I mean it is of course a prototype, but Sony are still known to make designs out of their products. Even prototypes amazes people. But this one..:(

[saf100792]

I think it wouldn't be so bad looking if they chose a different shape for the ball tho. Instead of using the ball why not extend the length and have the end glow. It would would a look a lot better and it would probly stop the sex-toy jokes

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

If you swung the controller...say like a bat, and twisted at the same time, your design could result in a smaller image being picked up by the eye (unless the controller was perfectly square along it's length). The only way to do it is with a symetrical shape...thus...the ball.

[saf100792]

yea i guess your right...sux tho cuz that thing its really funny looking. I can't imagine sum kids parents picking this thing up without giving funny looks and feeling uncomfortable

[SeanScythe]

I'm sorry but if you have a friend come over that's never seen this before and it's laying on your bed what do you think the first thing he's going to think it is? If your mom has no clue of what this is and she is cleaning your room what is she going to think it is? Ok no imagine you have two of them because that's atleast how many I will have to play the RPGs for a sheild and sword.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

So...you tell your friend/mom what it is and go enjoy your game. What is the issue? Will you be embarrased to buy it at the store too?

[Veneno]

I would stick this up my girl's woman-hole, just for kicks.

[Grandreaper9999]

Whatever they have now, it needs an overhaul. Won't be caught playing with a dildo in this lifetime.

[IQUITN4G]

No wonder there isn't as much buzz for this that there is for Natal

Better than the Wii i would definitely say and iv'e seen the ps3 demos(they are all excellent)but this wont catch on like Natal will

[fllysurfer]

Natal is a direct hit on casual gamers... AKA Wii. I don´t see Natal much more besides the ball demo, unless buttons or controllers are involved. Camera techniques and technology (and price) would need to be much higher than Natal...but time will tell...

[bobdog626]

It look's like a Flash Light with a Clown Nose in front of it . This Will Fail Sony.You Guys can do Better than this. Look at the PS3 Slim Design and look at this Stupid Thing .Bubbles if im right.

[Noah]

They stated at E3 that it was a prototype(the one they used) so it was a given that they Renewed the Motion Controller design.

[gamerzBEreal17]

u guys this is a hole diffrent thing and no u cant hold a hole controller in ur hand while playing ur friend would have to play and u would have to play with the stick this isn't a wiiMOTE it's a motion (controller)it will have R2 R1 buttons it will have anolog there will be games where u can play with them but i see this as the sixaxsis thing theres not going to be many games that use it and the ones that do ur not even guna care 4

[SlaughterMeister]

It looks like a sex toy.

[Mr Face Creamer]

I guess PervStation 3 owners weren't satisfied with dildos, so they got a vibrator instead!

Well played Sony... Well-Fu(king played.

[dustgavin]

And 360 owners are stuck air-fondling Milo in their dark rooms.

[VicHyper]

omg I hope that isn't the final design, looks like a phallus lmao

[lonix]

will get wii games........ not that any of them are any good

xbotch free60 will get stupid dancing games

[troylazlow]

sony is in the sex toy biz now... lol

[scott182]

We shouldn't make this look like a dildo, that should have been no. 1 priority. That's why I have been making fun of the wii for so long. Geez people.

[Rumor]

needs an analog...

[DS36]

this thing needs a psp go type analogue stick small low profile or its a no go...i want to see the motion controller do well but if there is no stick then just scratch this cause its going to have less buttons than a wiiimote and that a FAIL must must must have analogue period !

[dredgewalker]

What a naughty design......im gonna get this for me and my girlfriend to play with...on the PS3 of course..

[dredgewalker]

Foxgod's statements show his fixation with dildo's. Which would imply his inner homosexuality and therefore i conclude that he is a 360 "GAYMER". Also since he is heavily fixated on Natal and Milo would also suggest that he is a Pedophile....which leads to my final conclusion that he is a PEDOPHILE GAYMER.

[ikral]

Does it have vibration? Might be best seller...

[PtRoLLFacE]

the first one look like a doildo, this one looks like perfected dildo and if vibrates on boy! but really that pink ball definitely has to go

[Dogswithguns]

They better not release this nasty looking thing....

[bobdog626]

This is the Worst Design i have Ever Seen.Like i Said before It Look's Like a Flash Light with a Clown Nose in Front .Bad move Sony ,Bad Move

[AsILayDying]

still looks like a plastic c0ck

[dredgewalker]

Honestly if it works as promised i wouldnt mind the look. Its function and performance over aesthetics for me....and i hope it has vibration feature.....

[bakaPX]

Sony should add a analog stick on the controllers. Even though that means that you don't really move in the game, not everyone has space to run around in the living room or wherever your PS3 is stored. And I don't really see a difference.