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BBC News: Red ring of death returns at GDC 08

Microsoft wants consumers to believe that its problems with the Xbox 360 console in terms of hardware failure are over.

But wandering through the Game Developers Conference halls and it's clear that the problem persists.

On Microsoft's own stand at the show one of the demo consoles has a rather familiar problem - the red ring of death. There's no way of knowing if this particular console was manufactured before or after Microsoft identified the problems with the machines.

bbc.co.uk

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permutated - 681 days 10 hours ago

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How humiliating.

I love my 360 but this is getting ridiculous. They obviously either don't know what's causing the problem or they don't care.

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sonarus - 681 days 10 hours ago

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that is pretty humiliating indeed. The good news is it didnt happen during the presentation with an actual 360 so hardly anyone will notice. Nothing msoft can do now though they already gave out 3yr warranties all they can do is do their best to make sure future consoles are not inflicted with the same fault. That being said i have one of the older 360's 2 yrs now still standing but i am like ridiculously careful with it extremely paranoid the thing will die. I dnt use it for anything else but games and i always put it off and unplug it when i am done. However if msoft cant even take care of their own console what chance do i have.

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rofldings - 681 days 9 hours ago

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ROFL!

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Winter47th - 681 days 9 hours ago

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What an embarrassment.

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00 - 681 days 9 hours ago

1.4 - Maybe

it's the glass box it's stuffed in.

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Xiphos - 681 days 9 hours ago

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Ouch, very humiliating. This coming off the heels of not only the new 16% estimate, but Microsoft disputing that number as being too high. You'd think they'd have someone on standby to swap it out just as a precaution.

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mikeslemonade - 681 days 8 hours ago

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And these demonstration units are usually newer and tested more and they still red ring. In some sense this sets up Microsoft's inevitable annoucement of the new 360 sku at GDC.

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-EvoAnubis- - 681 days 8 hours ago

1.7 - Wow....

They really just kinda "pwn'd" themselves. They REALLY need to start addressing this issue.

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Martini - 681 days 8 hours ago

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The enclosure doesn't help but come on MS you are a bunch of noobs !! Nice egg in the face !

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iMad - 681 days 7 hours ago

1.9 - That's lame!

You can easily get 3 red lights just by unplugging video cable.

3 red lights not equal toRRoD. Lame story.

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CrazedFiend - 681 days 7 hours ago

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HA!

Then you would think that Microsoft of all people would know not to do that then.

But I still see the same thing in the display booths from time to time here in Japan (I use to take little cell phone videos, but never posted them). The only difference is that here they switch it out with a PS2 and keep playing the M$ videos.

No wonder nobody buys 'em here (@_@)...

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Lifendz - 681 days 4 hours ago

1.11 - It's an epidemic at this point

a recall should have occurred.

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hardmetal - 681 days 4 hours ago

1.13 - It's like a curse

No cure for it.

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rofldings - 681 days 3 hours ago

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@iMad

No, that's 4 red lights then.

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solidt12 - 681 days 3 hours ago

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That's bad. and this is on BBC which gets alot of visibility across the world, and at GDC too.

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killax3563 - 681 days 2 hours ago

1.16 - Its Microslop at its best

Their stuff always breaks. Its just what they do.

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Mr PS3 - 681 days 2 hours ago

1.17 - Now

Thats Cool !!!!

And thats all i gotta say about That !

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MaximusPaynicus - 680 days 23 hours ago

1.18 - It's not really that humiliating

You know, if it had been Sony or Nintendo with this problem, it'd be embarrassing. But considering the history the Xbox 360 has had with the RRoD, this really doesn't shock me like it normally would.

Which is downright sad.

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IntelligentAj - 680 days 23 hours ago

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Damn that's some embarrassing stuff.

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Mattearl - 680 days 21 hours ago

1.21 - hahahaha

Thats some funny sh*t right there. A RROD at their own display area... seriously, that can't be good.

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Pain - 680 days 21 hours ago

1.22 - D'oh!!!

Cant say it beter.

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Push - 680 days 18 hours ago

1.23 - Ha

It probably is just not getting well ventilation..but what about the other consoles..why are they working fine? RRoD is horrible. This on the other hand is not good for MS. They really need to fix that if they stand to win this war. They went from this being a small launch issue to now everyone has either had it happend to them or know someone personally.

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CrazedFiend - 680 days 17 hours ago

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No. It's just not a 100% failure rate, that's all. You're just not part of that 16-33%. Consider yourself lucky.

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Bubble Buddy - 680 days 16 hours ago

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Yeah, MS should start to fix those. All they do is make refurbished ones..

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Storm23 - 680 days 13 hours ago

1.26 - HAHA!!!!

That is funny.

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marinelife9 - 681 days 1 hour ago

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To be honest. If I owned a 360 I would go ahead and make it red ring right before my three year warranty was up just to get a 360 with new parts.

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Premonition - 681 days ago

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The funny thing is it happend to the first xbox, when they were on stage showing off, i guess a new game and the blue screen of death popped up.

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Cyrus365 - 681 days 10 hours ago

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You would think msoft would have their own "Display" models retro fitted with like a water-cooled, aircondition'd 360 so it RROD won't ever result due to over-heating...

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TheHater - 681 days 10 hours ago

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I already gotten the RROD once. And trust me, no gamer want to go through that.

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Dlacy13g - 681 days 9 hours ago

5 - the worst part about this.....

Is due to the wide spread issues MS had with the console failure something like this gets totally jumped on by the press.

But reality is there are a couple of things that can cause that ring besides the console completely failing as I recall...and are easily fixed. But...because they had such a big problem nobody would (myself included) give that a second thought and will just assume its one of the 'bad' consoles.

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ruibing - 681 days 9 hours ago

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Yeah but I doubt anyone can find an article or video like this for the PS3 or Wii.

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Jenzo - 681 days 7 hours ago

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I agree. The whole thing feels very exaggerated. But MS only have themselves to blame. They should have adressed it earlier, more properly. This tiny error might already have cost them this generations console war.

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xXbebofisherXx - 681 days ago

5.3 - actually...

if u want to see every system fail come to gamecrazy that i work at. our display wii has been sent in 14 times since launch. it always kicks the bucket in the middle of a demo for a customer. the ps3 we had fryed. my store smelled like butt cheecks for days. burnt chips isnt appealing. our 360 has died 3 times too. but that our own fault becuase our displays r on everyday for at least 13 hours. every console has failed, maynot be omg microsoft failure but electronics all fail. every last one of them becuase they r designed too.

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ForTheFallen - 680 days 14 hours ago

5.4 - I don't believe you, xXbebofisherXx

I have never heard of a PS3 "frying". I really don't think that's possible. Unless, like, the core/harddrive f'd up.

My friend's PS3's Blu-ray gave out after like 6 months.
Sent in. Got it back within a 2 weeks.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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dachiefsman - 681 days 9 hours ago

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wow....they probably set up the one I just sent back....

after all this time you THINK they could have resolved this issue by now!

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xsteinbachx - 681 days 9 hours ago

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You'd think so.. plus those cases aren't really vented properly... so..it's a lose lose situation....

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Expy - 681 days 9 hours ago

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lol, wow, how embarrassing. That's really bad haha.

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games4fun - 681 days 9 hours ago

8 - that

is what i call bad timing, dont laugh too hard

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IDemonstalkerXI - 681 days 9 hours ago

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I still have GS gamer buds post in there blogs about them having to send in there 360's im talking days and weeks recently.

This is pretty sad. They gave me a free month of XBL gold last time I sent mine in yet charged me $99 for replacement. Since disc scratching 360's where not covered in the extended RRoD warranty....

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Skerj - 681 days 4 hours ago

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Oh that's harsh, mine will scratch a disc if I play it for a few hours straight. I heard grinding in the drive when I was playing Mass Effect and opened it up to circular scratches on the disc. They buffed out easily though so I guess I'm alright for now. ..

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spandexxking - 681 days 2 hours ago

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a bit off topic but not. my friends 360 died and it wasnt a RRoD and they said it wasnt covered under the warranty. and said i would have to pay. i took none of it and complained and the guy said he'l speak to his finance department. he then said they'l make an "exception" and fix it for free. my bet is if you really complain there more than willing to replace/fix for free

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XBREAK3FIXME - 681 days 9 hours ago

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LOOOOOOOOOOOL!

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grilledgorlupa8 - 681 days 9 hours ago

11 - Funny

No matter who you are you do have to find it a little funny that it would happen at GDC

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zakupilot256 - 681 days 9 hours ago

12 - the irony

with the RRoD and the paper sleeve Lost Odessy case, the questions remains: How many slaps to the face from Microsoft does it take to piss off their consumers? 1, 2, 3......? the world may never know

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Orange - 681 days 8 hours ago

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yes, but you won't get the *crunch* after three. 360 owners are a resilient bunch, unlike the wise tootsie-roll pop owl.

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SlippyMadFrog - 681 days 7 hours ago

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You guys only look at the negatives of the 360, take off your fanboy caps and realize that people have LOTS of fun with the 360, regardless of RROD and the "the paper sleeve Lost Odessy case" *sigh

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thedude17655 - 681 days 9 hours ago

1 - HAHAHAHAHA...

HAHAHAHAHAHA hilarious!

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scottie2521 - 680 days 22 hours ago

1.3 - this is BS

i've really been thinking about getting another 360 just so i can have the best of both worlds. i had one already thats modded but i gave it away to my lil cousin and i don't have the heart to take it back after a year.

but i refuse to get another 360 until they fix these problems completely. they've been dragging their feet on this sh!t for way too long. i already had enough issues with the system the first time around and i don't have time to put up with it again.

PS3 has spoiled me.

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BLUR111 - 680 days 20 hours ago

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I think it's lame to report the same story over and over that keeps sony fanboys happy just to get points on your n4g profile.

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Kleptic - 680 days 15 hours ago

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^^haha...no...its the other way around...

and its not the same story...its the same problem, being reported thousands of times over and over...this is a site for news related to gaming...and a very significant story of this generation is that its pretty much guaranteed that more than 1 out of 8 360's will break prematurely...apparently even those that MS sets up at kiosks for major conventions...

whats lame is that people get 'angry' about hearing about it so much...If MS would actually fix the problem entirely...as in creating 360s that do not break all the time...the problem won't be reported as much...considering the scale of this problem, consider yourself lucky...its really surprising that the entire media is absolutely running wild with this...

whats even more lame is your attempts at damage control in threads like this...

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blade402 - 676 days 23 hours ago

1.6 - Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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PSWe60 - 681 days 9 hours ago

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Well this would explain the "shortages"
all the 360 are currently being fixed...or at GDC with the RRoD

you guys SUCK!

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BrianC6234 - 681 days 9 hours ago

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Don't give them any ideas. If we suddenly stop hearing about 360 failures we'll know they caught on to your idea. If nobody reports about it the problem must be fixed. Right?

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Cwalat - 680 days 23 hours ago

4.2 - hahaha

they probably killed him but some lucky guy found the tape laying around.

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BLUR111 - 680 days 20 hours ago

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that's pretty Embarsing, that was funny when he said that. britts are funny

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Rattles - 681 days 9 hours ago

5 - thats pretty funny

getpwned now change that avatar and you may get some bubbles

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PopEmUp - 681 days 9 hours ago

5.1 - lol

what do you expect he love banana as if you know what I mean
on topic> well that is so funny, I wish I was there

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Rattles - 681 days 8 hours ago

6 - i think he love banana too much

lol

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camelio - 681 days 8 hours ago

7 - GUYS, COMMON GUYZ

IT WAS MICROSOFTS DEMONSTRATION BOOTH, THATS RIGHT, IT WAS DEMONSTRATING THE RROD...HAHA

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Zip - 681 days 7 hours ago

8 - Camelio

You better watch your typing, people here are quite hostile towards shouting (caps lock)

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Matsuiichi - 681 days 7 hours ago

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Wow...Now I will never believe anything they say about fixing the problem...not that I believed them before. I'm surprised people haven't taken the hint that all these consoles are ceramic just waiting to be bricked.

No game can change the fact that Xbox 360s are death traps to themselves. XD

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Iron Man 2 - 681 days 6 hours ago

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Dark Sniper finds this problem truely funny and can't help but to LHFAO everytime he hears about RROD,PLAYSTATION®3 will put Xbox 360 out of it's misery soon enough

$niper

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NoxiousD - 681 days 6 hours ago

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gotta love Micro$hit lol.

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BLUR111 - 680 days 20 hours ago

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gotta love ur windows xp or vista right?

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carl ps3 - 681 days 5 hours ago

13 - FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-D

FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-D
But Micro$oft keep getting away with it???
i.e they still selling xbox's???
WHO?&?WHY? do people waste there money on it!!!

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SlappyMcTaint - 680 days 20 hours ago

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Because most of their fanbase are sheep and think all the RROD news is fake! Baaaaaaah.

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Cartesian3D - 681 days 5 hours ago

14 - I have a question for MS :

why did u put a RING around power button?

u want to show your silliness and your faulty hardware ?

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JVIDICAN - 680 days 12 hours ago

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thats actually a good question lol

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Sneaky Snake - 681 days 5 hours ago

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whaahah, M$ eat $hit and die :p

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BLUR111 - 681 days 1 hour ago

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MWAH-HA-HA-HA.. u have no LlFE..MWAH-HA-HA-HA

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heyheyhey - 681 days 4 hours ago

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this is genuinly hilarious

your a flop M$

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Gazman - 681 days 3 hours ago

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The new blue screen of death

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kalistyles - 681 days 3 hours ago

19 - Thats too funny

Even M$ wants to display how terrible their hardware is. Can it get any worse than that. What an embarrassment. The 360 is such a joke.

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THC CELL - 681 days 3 hours ago

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where is the mart to back this up

wait wait green where are u lol

i wonder how much microsoft will pay that guy to remove the vid hahah lol

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MaximusPrime - 681 days 3 hours ago

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xbox 360 is the only worst console ever to be reported. It reliability is getting worse.

There are so much reports on xbox hardware failure. I never seen any other console that has the same problem.

xbox 360 is one scary console to own.

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Sneaky Snake - 681 days 1 hour ago

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i have never seen a product that has so many failure rate ;)

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Bathyj - 681 days 2 hours ago

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Man, this would be funny......if I didn't own one

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Amp - 681 days 2 hours ago

23 - Where is Ric?

Ric Flair would tell me what kind of noise an owl makes with this story ;P

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BLUR111 - 681 days 1 hour ago

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Good point Ric Flair. bubbles 4u

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Amp - 680 days 19 hours ago

23.3 - LOL

Thanks Ric-bubbs

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Nitrogen - 681 days 1 hour ago

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freakin' hilarious

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pwnmaster3000 - 681 days 1 hour ago

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wow dats bad publicity for the 360

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Bill Gates - 681 days 1 hour ago

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You poor BABOONS get humiliated EVERYWHERE you monkeys go.....AHAHHAHHHAH

That's what you get.

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UnDone14 - 680 days 14 hours ago

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LOL! Your posts always crack me up! Bubbles for you sir.

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Atomic - 680 days 23 hours ago

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Microsoft slogan is "Your potential. Our passion"

more like "your incompetence. our laughing material"

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jamesrocks3147 - 680 days 23 hours ago

29 - OMFG thats HALIROUS!

they keep sayin its over aswel and yet it shows up at there own conferance HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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