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Do or Die for id Software

"The time has come for id Software to deliver. Don't get us wrong, there is no risk of this legendary developer ever being forgotten for the brilliant gameplay it has delivered upon the world, nor how revolutionary its titles have been in shaping the gaming landscape we enjoy today. But where it would have been contender in anyone's Top Developers of the Nineties list, in the naughties id Software has lived off little more than reputation. It has gone from sitting on the FPS throne, to being juggled between distributors and finally acquired by Zenimax, a company that was formed in the same year Quake III: Arena was released." - from gameplayer

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Published: 138 days 2 hours ago | Article | E3 2009 | PlayStation 3 | Xbox 360 | Wii | Sony PSP | Nintendo DS | PlayStation 2 | Gaming | PC | Dev News

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RememberThe357 - 138 days 4 hours ago

1 - Rage

is going to own. I can't wait for it.

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JsonHenry - 137 days 17 hours ago

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And in the unlikely event that it doesn't pwn, then we can all just blame Bethesda now! :)

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ironwolf777 - 138 days 4 hours ago

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Fully agree. But that could be a long fkn wait.

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Sucks2BU - 138 days 3 hours ago

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from the word choice in that interview at the end of the article it certainly seems like it is still a long way off. I wonder if it will even be this generation?

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Polluted - 138 days ago

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Yeah, it'll be out this gen. They've been pretty open about the dev process so far and it's definitely being made for PC, 360 and PS3. I'd bet it's not as far off as we might think. They're going to want to get it out the door quick so they can start focusing on licensing tech 5 out to other devs.

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Sucks2BU - 138 days 4 hours ago

3 - i can't believe

How little id has achieved this decade. They really have lived off an awesome reputation rather than stacks of good games

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mrnintendo96 - 138 days 2 hours ago

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Well, now and in the next decade id will have access to ZeniMax programmers. Eventually they will grow and end up the size of Treyarch.

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Xi - 138 days 2 hours ago

4 - As long as ID keeps developing amazing tech.

Then I doubt they will ever die.

When Gabe newell left iD and started up valve it was thanks to the quake engine which spawned source-gold and even the current sorce engine, as well as all the great games those engines had created.

Without quake 3, cod4 would look like a completely different game from the way it does today considering it's based of the engine.

without the quake engine, technology like relief mapping ( http://fabio.policarpo.nom.... ) and raytracing ( http://www.idfun.de/temp/q4... ) wouldn't be where they are today.

And now id tech 5 brings megatextures.

I think iD will always live on with their tech, regardless of how good their games are.

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Sucks2BU - 138 days 1 hour ago

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They make a good point though that if you started gaming for the first time during this decade, and especially the last half of it, you would be wondering what all the fuss is about id.

There are a hell of a lot of good engines out there now that weren't in existence when id was in a world of its own. id tech 5 will have to be something very special indeed to knock off the likes of CryEngine and RAGE

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NoiseBringer - 138 days ago

4.2 - yes...

The rage is just a demonstration, they are making engine that u can use for anything,rpg,fps,driving ect...
Thats why its taking too long, just imagine fps on oblivions engine, that would be a crap game :)

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Xi - 137 days 23 hours ago

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That's understandable, but my point is that even if they don't develop a good game, they can still develop great technology that will keep their name on the books.

And lets not forget they have developed some decent games in the last decade, like doom 3.

I mean, look at criteron, before burnout did you know who they were? Did you know they developed the most widely used videgame engine last generation. The engine which powered games like GTA3/VC/SA?

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scissor_runner - 137 days 14 hours ago

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SUCK2BU id is sort of the driving force in open GL and with out GL quake it really would not be here. Another thing is they got BSP culling right when every one needed it. If you look at epics games before UT3 or the UTe engine you will see that they where not doing half the things id's engine did with no problem simply because it was put together in such a smart manner.

Doom3 was their down fall and quake 4 was merely them living off past creative work. The tech was very very good yet poorly optimized for normal PCs back then. This is where the quake stuff comes in and really shines. id simply lost too much talent and john doesn't actually make the game play a lot of times yet has a huge input.

Yet for some one to say they have not made a great game in a long time has not played the PC version of ET:Quake wars a game using their tech that blows many many FPS squad games out of the water. It is seriously better than crysis.

I expect to see direct x 11 pushed the most buy these guys simply because they started supporting texture of an almost infinite size a long time ago.

Most gamers rag on them because they simply don't know the tech behind the games they play or the people.

What is even sadder is all the guys from a dev studio could get fired and the gamers would still buy their games just because of the name of the company. Gamers pay for brand names it seems yet when publisher can get away with that idea along gaming will truly die off for a while once more.

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adsaidler - 137 days 23 hours ago

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john carmack is one of my childhood heroes =)

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free2game365 - 137 days 23 hours ago

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Rage seems like too much of a console FPS to me, and I don't see ID as being able to deliver as good a console FPS as they do a PC FPS.

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peowpeow - 137 days 22 hours ago

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I hope for rage to be a great game

Off topic: Which developer is making the new Wolfenstein?

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mrnintendo96 - 137 days 9 hours ago

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Raven Software is developing the new Wolfenstein.

It is sad we haven't seen any new gameplay for the game.

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PS360WII - 137 days 18 hours ago

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I don't think it's do or die for id but from what I've seen of Rage it should be a fun time :)

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djpolofish - 137 days 18 hours ago

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they should stop taking it from microsoft and just make the games that they want, remember rage use to have mega textures

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ironwolf777 - 137 days 13 hours ago

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I believe you meant to say " With a grain of salt"
But you are otherwise correct
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Shnazzyone - 137 days 13 hours ago

10 - I hope id can keep it up

It can't be denied that the FPS genre is starting to stagnate and needs new ideas. Why else have elder scrolls and fallout 3 become such huge success'. I hope rage really does bring fantastic new innovation. Because god knows FPS games need it and who better to bring new ideas then the company that made fps games epic to begin with.

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Sucks2BU - 137 days 8 hours ago

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It would also be nice if Valve got around to Half-Life 3... or even just episode 3.

Screw Left 4 Dead

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Gamer_Politics - 137 days 9 hours ago

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Wolfenstein(2009) looks terrible to be honest....

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