Will Metal Gear Rising live up to expectations?

phosphor112 - 176 days 14 hours ago

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Rock Bottom - 176 days 14 hours ago

Fanboys who are trying to convince them selves that this game will be as good as any other Kojima games, think about when was the last time Konami made an awesome 3D action game that Kojima had nothing to do with...

Yep that's right, the answer is NEVER.

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Dlacy13g - 176 days 14 hours ago

And its that attitude and level of scrutiny from the MGS loyalists that will ensure the game doesn't meet expectations. It will be held up and compared to MGS4 which more than likely is completely unfair as from all reports its going to be a different type of game altogether. Add to that the simple fact that it will ship on DVD9 and Sony loyalists will instantly call it inferior based on the disc alone.

This game will sell well, but amongst its fan base I am sure it is going to be met with harsh criticism regardless of whether its warranted.

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ChampIDC - 176 days 14 hours ago

Well, if Kojima has any say in things, I can't imagine it'll be a bad game at all. I don't think he'd let anyone disgrace his baby. Certainly won't be as good as anything directed by him, though.

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phosphor112 - 176 days 14 hours ago

It will be bad.

( http://www.ps3center.net/ne... )

He also kept on saying "true sequel", "not a spin off", MGS 4 team was working on it, etc etc. He doesn't want to deal with MGSR. The only reason why its coming out is because MS paid for it. They HAD to have. Konami doesn't tell Kojima what he has to do unless money is involved.

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Xiphos - 176 days 14 hours ago

That's about where my expectations are. Kojima basically shat all over this thing in favor of Peace Walker at E3.

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darthv72 - 176 days 14 hours ago

You say MS paid for it but it is also coming to ps3. Last I thought, Konami is the primary company. Kojima may not be doing any direct work but it is his production team who will take heat for it if it fails.

Anyway, on topic, I think it could do well if people just see it as a different direction with a different main charecter. No need to compare (yet they will). There have been spin offs in almost every entertainment genre that have gone on to be equally as popular as the main source.

edit: i can see where konami has had a good relationship with sony. They have a good one with nin and ms as well. The game being more action based could be a sign of it being tailored for the western world.
Konami is all about making $$ just like the next company. This game having the name of MGS could be like you say....capitalizing on the brand name. Yet, we really know nothing about the game itself and it could really turn out to be a great action game with some stealth elements.

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phosphor112 - 176 days 14 hours ago

Konami and Sony have had a relatively tight relationship. So if MS wanted this game. Konami probably would have said that it couldn't be exclusive unless they wanted to dish out more money. Sony wouldn't have let an exclusive 360 MGS game to happen, and it probably would have made them mad as well. For MS, any MGS game coming to 360 is a win for them. Even though it more than likely wont be a "MGS experience", the name alone will create sales for them, more than what they paid for.

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RememberThe357 - 176 days 13 hours ago

lol no sh*t. That's why we're talking about "expectations".

On topic: I really don't have any expectations yet. But concerning it's coming from Kojima Productions, I have high hopes.

@GWAVE: I don't think that's fair. There are plenty of multi-platform games that are massively impressive. For instance Splinter Cell: Conviction, Assassin's Creed 2, and even that new Castlevania. It may be true that in some instances DVD is not ideal, but I would count out the ingenuity of the programmers and designers working on this game.

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rockleex - 176 days 13 hours ago

Anyone who plays Zone of the Enders 1 and Zone of the Enders 2 can tell ZOE2 is the better game... without even knowing which one Kojima was involved with.

Metal Gear Ac!d is another game without Kojima's involvement, and yes these games are good... but just can't compare to Kojima games.

Yes, Kojima has THAT much impact on their games. We have learned from history that a Kojima Productions game just isn't as good without Kojima.

Its not unwarranted scrutiny, its the truth.

Will MGSR still be a good game? Most likely. Would it be better with Kojima? Yes. Will we buy it either way? Yes.

So yea, no one's bashing. No one has unwarranted expectations for MGSR... except for certain 360 fanboys who are expecting something rivaling MGS4 for purely fanboy wars sakes.

If MGS Ac!d and Portable Ops meet your expectations, then Rising will meet your expectations.

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Tony P - 176 days 13 hours ago

I dunno. It's not even being worked on apparently. Ask me again in 2010.

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mistajeff - 176 days 12 hours ago

I find it really hard to believe that Kojima wants ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Rising, he's said in numerous interviews that Raiden is his favorite MGS character and that he was really upset over the MGS fan reaction to him in Sons of Liberty.

I think he just realizes how much more important Snake(s) is/are.

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phosphor112 - 176 days 12 hours ago

Sadly Splinter Cell: Conviction is 360 exclusive. I was really wanting to play that game.

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Buttons - 176 days 11 hours ago

If the standards are for people that have never played a REAL MGS, then yes; if they've actually played one (as in one directed by Kojima), then no.

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AssassinHD - 176 days 11 hours ago

Splinter Cell: Conviction is not exclusive to the 360. If you have a decent PC you can still play it.

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phosphor112 - 176 days 5 hours ago

Yeah, I knew it was coming to PC, but I thought we were only talkin about consoles only, in which PS3 won't have it. I think I have to upgrade my PC to play conviction they way id like (high graphics).

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RememberThe357 - 176 days 13 hours ago

When did he say the MGS4 team would be working entirely on the PSP game? I heard him say that the MGS4 team would be working on the PSP game as well, but I don't remember him say specifically that the MGS4 team was only working on the PSP game.

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mistajeff - 176 days 13 hours ago

The MGS4 team is HUGE, I highly doubt every single one is working on Peace Walker, and I think in the Sony conference he just said "majority." He's still taking on an important enough role with Rising that he can ensure that it won't turn out to be a bad game.

Frankly, I'm AMPED for both.. though as a hopeless MGS fanboy I'll always say it, ANY of the 4 Snakes > Raiden. That doesn't mean I didn't REALLY want a playable Raiden as DLC.. and this could be arguably better. I'm confident that he wouldn't allow his team to make this game if he didn't see potential, and he's in an important enough role to steer them down the right track and (most importantly) keep everything canon.

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rockleex - 176 days 13 hours ago

However, Kojima will ONLY be working on Peace Walker.

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mistajeff - 176 days 13 hours ago

Yeah, they are working on Rising too. Kojima's role with Rising is basically just to b!tchslap them if they get out of hand, but I have a lot of faith in his team because Kojima himself obviously does too. Also I loved Portable Ops.

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ExgamerLegends - 176 days 15 hours ago

Did you get that avatar from that ad on the side screen?

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ultimolu - 176 days 15 hours ago

Yes. ^^
I liked the picture so I saved it and made an avatar.

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chaosatom - 176 days 13 hours ago

lol, so off topic and random.

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BLuKhaos - 176 days 13 hours ago

Your avatar reminds me of woman from Ghost in the Shell.

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shazui123 - 176 days 14 hours ago

worse

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CSM-101e - 176 days 14 hours ago

action and philosophy... for today's semi-retarded populace. If Metal Gear gets any more "philosophy", Nietzsche & Heidegger will roll over in their graves.

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ExgamerLegends - 176 days 14 hours ago

But when people hear the name metal gear there is a certain expectancy people have for the game that has been built up by Kojima.

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heyheyhey - 176 days 14 hours ago

i agree

although i'm more excited for Rising than i was Ac!d.. the "Lightning Bolt Action" tagline has me intrigued.. not necessarily in a good way, but intrigued nonetheless

i expect it will sort of like a hack n' slash with badass ninja moves as seen in MGS4, but with a bit stealth here and there.. interesting as a spin-off, but my true excitement as an MGS fan lies with Peace Walker

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PirateThom - 176 days 14 hours ago

What about Portable Ops?

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DeathroW22 - 176 days 14 hours ago

Give 'em a chance..

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Etackett2010 - 176 days 14 hours ago

and Kojima is still contributing to MGSR.

"I'm not the director. I'm not doing game design either. Although, I do issue complaints (laughs). But, not too much."

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callahan09 - 176 days 14 hours ago

Portable Ops was a huge disappointment for me, personally. I actually like the Ac!d games a whole hell of a lot more than Portable Ops. Portable Ops started out well, but as it began to introduce resource management I just started to get annoyed with its deviation from the standard Metal Gear Solid mold. I cannot freakin' wait for Peace Walker though. The PSP is practically capable of everything the PS2 can do, it just doesn't have the extra thumbstick. But I think God of War Chains of Olympus proved that the PSP is like a portable PS2. So I fully expect Peace Walker to be every bit as impressive, deep, immersive, and amazing as Metal Gear Solid 3, its direct prequel and the last of the PS2 MGS games. I've been waiting for a true Metal Gear Solid game on the PSP since they announced Portable Ops.

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ps92117 - 176 days 14 hours ago

But his team ain't working on it, he probably hates the idea that mgs is on 360.

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Murderdolls - 176 days 14 hours ago

Kojima is the producer what the f##k are you talking about?

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heyheyhey - 176 days 14 hours ago

@Murder

he's not directing it or working on it at all.. he's working on MGS: Peace Walker and supervising Castlevania: Lord Of Shadows

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PirateThom - 176 days 14 hours ago

Kojima is listed as a producer for every game that comes out of Kojima Productions (funny enough), but he's not the principle producer. He was listed as producer for Portable Ops, but the principle producer was Noriaki Okamura.

Kenichiro Imaizumi is the principle producer for Metal Gear Solid Rising.

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