Tecmo: PlayStation 3 Most Powerful Hardware

pwnsause - 157 days 22 hours ago

funny how over 1 year ago when Itigaki was running Team Ninja, he stated that the 360 was the most power system ever, and now look what happens when you change.

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lociefer - 157 days 22 hours ago

this is no news , everyone knows that the ps3 is the most powerfull bad-ass machine ever created , well except the guyz at valve , the colour of green is really blinding

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DIRTYHAIRYJOYSTICK - 157 days 22 hours ago

Remember when he said in a bragging manner that he only makes games for the most powerful systems? Well, throw that out the window. He made a DS game even...LOL. In the end it doesn't matter because he's well taken care of by Microsoft. When he was still at Tecmo he didn't want anything to do with the PS3 because of his relationship with Microsoft. No big deal. Everybody has to eat.

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Tomonobu Itagaki - 157 days 22 hours ago

Everybody has to eat... even Gabe Newell.

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fishd - 157 days 22 hours ago

http://i41.tinypic.com/2ic4...

xD

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Mitchell - 157 days 22 hours ago

We all knew this already. Uncharted proved it a while ago, and Killzone 2 reestablished it.

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irish-leprecaun - 157 days 21 hours ago

i just want your opinions!

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raztad - 157 days 21 hours ago

To be fair Valve never has said (as far as I know) the PS3 is a weak console, just they dont know (dont want to learn for whatever reasons) to develop for it. Kinda lame, but it is what it is.

Now, Tecmo went straight to the point. Obviously this is a politically incorrect thing to say for a multiplat developer, so I guess Tecmo is not caring that much about MS any more. Very interesting development indeed.

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DasBunker - 157 days 21 hours ago

didnt we already know this before we even bought a PS3?

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AKNAA - 157 days 21 hours ago

"Simply, it's the most powerful hardware"

Its about time a third party developer spoke the truth without being worried about what MS will think!

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gaffyh - 157 days 21 hours ago

Everyone knew this a year before the PS3 was even released. The proof came when Uncharted became one of the best looking console games to date, and still has no equal. Killzone 2 proved everyone wrong as did MGS4.

But still fanboys do not see the truth.

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Shadow Flare - 157 days 21 hours ago

When do you ever read an article where a dev says, "This game can't be done on ps3"? You don't.

Xbox 360 can't even handle the amount of grass in Flower...

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

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Xiphos - 157 days 21 hours ago

Itagaki just hates Sony. Something about giving Tekken priority over DOA, if I remember correctly.

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Jamegohanssj5 - 157 days 21 hours ago

The only reason why Itagaki made the DS game is because he made a deal with his daughter that he would.

TGSI

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cmrbe - 157 days 21 hours ago

In terms of story telling and gmeplay NO imo. MGS4 is still the best. Visually its still up there with the best like Uncharted and KZ2. KZ2 overall is still the best visually for me atm. Uncharted has the best environments but MGS4 with best character models. KZ2 with best physics,lighting and particle effects. KZ2 looks grainy/gritty and looks more realistic than the other two imo. So i guess you can say KZ2 does look better than MGS4. However MGS4 is still unmatched in gameplay and story telling. Both MGS4 and KZ2 sound are the best as well.

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Raiinstorm81 - 157 days 21 hours ago

"We all knew this already. Uncharted proved it a while ago, and Killzone 2 reestablished it"

and Uncharted 2 & GoW3 ended the debate for good.

Its really no arguement but the way people think these days, Sony and multiple Devs have to continue to stress the point.

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HDgamer - 157 days 21 hours ago

Gabe Newell has stated that various times. Valve is a different story, but Gabe Newell is the head of Valve.

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ultimolu - 157 days 21 hours ago

Are you kidding me Why Dis? Really? What does Ghostbusters have to do with this? It's funny when the only thing 360 fanboys can use in an argument of which console is more powerful, they resort to multiplatform games.

For the billionth time...

EXCLUSIVES SHOW THE POWER OF YOUR CONSOLE, NOT MULTIPLATFORM GAMES.

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SixTwoTwo - 157 days 20 hours ago

Water is wet, fire is hot, etc. tell me something I don't know... like GT5's release date =)

@above .. Relax. Just let the baby have his bottle =)

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Rock Bottom - 157 days 20 hours ago

Lets assume this article is just for commercial reasons, and lets assume the 360 is the most powerful console this generation. Now, what good is the 360 hardware superiority if the best looking console games this gen are PS3 games?

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Rhoic - 157 days 20 hours ago

Does this even matter? I was aware that it all depended on games. Not the console's hardware.

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Bathyj - 157 days 19 hours ago

I wouldnt be talking about Jaggies if my flagship shooter and racer were LegoHalo 3 and LegoForza 2 respectively.

Show me one PS3 exclusive with Jaggies as bad as those two games. If fact for all the graphical nitpickinging, show me one graphical downfall on PS3 that actually makes a difference to the game aside from maybe the first Madden on PS3 or CoD3 which ran like a dog, and that was from the devs not wanting to put in the learning time first. We've moved on since then.

Hey least Valve have admitted now they're not up to it. But then Valve are forever releasing stuff that takes to modding community to spit shine it and make it better. No wonder they dont want to learn something new.

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TheTwelve - 157 days 19 hours ago

It's about as bold a claim as saying the Yankees are the most dominant team in baseball history. In other words, it's not a bold claim at all...it's just the obvious truth based on clear evidence.

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theEnemy - 157 days 19 hours ago

MGS4 was and will always be one of the best games on the PS3.

It's on par with KZ2 in terms of Graphics, well maybe KZ2 got a slight edge. ;)

But the gameplay and the feeling after playing it is still unmatched IMO.

I *hope* MGS:R will be close visually and gameplay wise that of MGS4.

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BattleAxe - 157 days 17 hours ago

PS3 "most powerful hardware" FTW!!!!!!

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rockleex - 157 days 17 hours ago

The last boss fight in MGS4 says hello. ^_^

Seriously, if they had made it a cutscene fight instead of gameplay boss fight, I would NEVER have believed that it was done in real time!

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soxfan2005 - 157 days 16 hours ago

@Twelve

You're right. Sony is like the Yankees - the once unbeatable team now struggling while their bitter rivals have overtaken them. Just like the PS3 is most powerful, the Yankees have had the highest payroll for the last eight years. We all know what has happened in those last eight years - eight teams not named "Yankees" have won the World Series.

EDIT - You're right - this year has yet to be decided. Just like Sony, the Yankees have the best lineup on paper. How that translates into real world success is the big question.

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rockleex - 157 days 15 hours ago

Except no one has won this world series yet.

And even then, it still doesn't change the fact that the PS3 is the most powerful console this generation... just like how the Xbox was the most powerful last generation.

@whoever disagreed with me

Are you telling me the last boss fight in MGS4 did not have CG-like visuals? <_<

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Sarcasm - 157 days 15 hours ago

CGI Graphics? The Last Guardian.

'nuff said

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Syronicus - 157 days 8 hours ago

With Sony using the Cell and having a BD-ROM Drive, this knowledge is nothing new. It was only the fanboys that hated the PS3 for its price that claimed it was not as powerful or more powerful than the 360. I will however state that perhaps it was not until developers began unlocking the PS3 potential that we began to hear more about how powerful the hardware was. It takes time with any Sony console to unlock the power of it's tech.

Note to the fanboys, I am in no way slamming the 360. There are and will be amazing games on it so please do not take this as a slam on the 360. It's just a known fact that the PS3 has more to offer in way of future proof hardware than the 360.

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s8anicslayer - 157 days 6 hours ago

Valve never said the PS3 wasn't the most powerful machine, they have always said "It is too complicated to develop for."

http://n4g.com/events_e3200...
Here's a link to those recent statments

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Dude420 - 157 days 6 hours ago

Why do they keep making articles like this?

No wait, why do you guys still care about articles like this?

It's the same discussion over and over again and it's quite sad really, we've already debated these things before, why go at it again? My conclusion to these articles are that they are just fuel for the fanboy wars.

I think the PS3 is a more powerful and reliable machine than the 360, but that doesn't mean a visually stunning game can't be done on the 360. Look at Remedy, Alan Wake looks absolutely promising considering it's an open world game. I'm not expecting it to blow KZ2 or Uncharted 2 out of the water, but it might be nearly on par.

All it takes is a good number of years of developement which is what most of Sony's first party devs are doing. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't have that many developers that will do that, they just churn out games every 1 or 2 years, (I do think Forza 3 looks great though). Even if Halo is a fun game (ODST seems cool), I would hope that Bungie would at least start working on a new engine so they improve on their Halo franchise.

Anyway I wish these kind of articles would stop, but that won't happen since you guys need an article to do your daily bashing of a console you don't like. Sad sad sad.

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aueslander - 157 days 5 hours ago

....the main dude who was a project leader on both the cell and the 3 core said that both cpus are pretty close together? I mean come on, who is more likely to know which is the better cpu, PR people/3rd party game makers or the head of the guys who actually designed and built the 2 cpus?

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Jecht - 157 days ago

Yeah, 'cause you played them both right?

I'm going to start calling you Brad Warden, Chad Warden's 360 fanbot whiny little brother who's pathetically wrong all the time.

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teraclusterx - 156 days 22 hours ago

Lets be honest.
BLURAY,Cell, RSX,150MBpsSSD drive(optional),Wifi,Backwards compatible,HDMI,
DDR3,RAMBUS RAM,BLuetooth,
What else did I leave out ,This thing is a beast and everyone knows it but can't afford it!!

If it were slim and cost 100 dollars less it would be in every 360 and wii owners house.!!!

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TOO PAWNED - 157 days 22 hours ago

by then we will see next xbox, and i don't care what MS says about 360 we will see next xbox in 2011 or 2012, 360 is already outdated

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stewgart - 157 days 21 hours ago

The only problem for the 360 is the use of DVD. It still gets by at the moment but we are already seeing games go onto 2 discs and now Rockstar are doing a ps3 exclusive thought to be as a result of the DVD disc space. This may prompt an earlier release of the next xbox but its still too early to say.

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40cal - 157 days 21 hours ago

Blu-Ray, Cell broadband engine, mandatory HDD, and HDMI greater than 1.0 are four (4) problems that I can count.

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Raiinstorm81 - 157 days 21 hours ago

Natal is supposed to extend its life span til 2015 LOL

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carsstarsandgames - 157 days 20 hours ago

the PS3 is the best technology right now on the market aim at gamers.

The PS3 is a very capable machine...and it's very evident in it's exclusive...even the ones that suck...(Lair&Haze)....they are not as bad as Bullet Witch & Too human(maybe tied)...

It's also evident when Sony 1st party begin to really harness the power of the PS3 many other devs will follow suit and announce exclusive for the PS3..the PS3 has not show anything yet..we are only two years in.......it's still has unlimited potential...that's what is great with the PS3...it evolves...it's like fine wine gets better with age....functionality and etc...

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Sitdown - 157 days 20 hours ago

"B-B-B-B-ut
Natal is supposed to extend its life span til 2015 LOL"

Hahaha...I am glad you can laugh at how pointless your statement is. Seriously, did you read the article? The ps3 being more powerful does not mean the 360 can not make it to 2015 with the help of Natal.....the xbox was more powerful than the ps2.....but you see the ps2 is still alive and well.

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Spike47 - 157 days 22 hours ago

If you are a fat lazy lard than I rather not have you touch such a complex but powerful system.

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SaberEdge - 157 days 21 hours ago

Tecmo's comments back then were vague. I mean he didn't give any details or specifics. Not to mention that his comment directly contradicts the comments made by other developers and one of the lead engineers of both CPUs.

The fact is, the PS3 isn't as powerful as people make it out to be. One of the key IBM designers of both CPUs said, "At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal."
http://www.gamasutra.com/vi...

John Carmack has expressed that "...the only thing Sony has going for them over the 360, is the data storage on the blu-ray..."
http://www.destructoid.com/...
He also said "Yeah, I mean that's our position that it's almost unequivocal across the board that the 360 is a better platform to develop for. On almost anything on the strictly graphical side, in terms of pushing vertexes and triangles on there, the 360 hardware is superior to the PS3's RSX on there."
"And the other major difference is the memory partitioning. Where they're both 512mb machines, but on the PS3 it's partitioned into 256mb of video and 256mb of main. And one of the biggest things that Sony does poorly for developers is their system stuff sucks up a lot more resources than it does, than Microsoft's does on the 360. So memory is much more painful on the PS3. We spend a lot more time trying to crunch down the memory for that..."

Jason Booth, a former developer with Harmonix, also says that the PS3 is not more powerful than the 360. http://www.gamedaily.com/ar...
He says ""Fill rate is one of the primary ways to measure graphics performance - in essence, it's a number describing how many pixel operations you can perform. The fill rate on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, meaning that games either have to run at lower resolution or use simpler shader effects to achieve the same performance," "Additionally, the shader processing on the PS3 is significantly slower than on the 360, which means that a normal map takes more fill rate to draw on the PS3 than it does on the 360. And I'm not talking about small differences here, we're talking roughly half the pixel pushing power."

Real life engineers and software developers tell us either that the two consoles are close in performance capabilities or the 360 is actually a bit more powerful in general. Two and a half years of better performing multiplatform games on the 360 also hint at the same thing.

That is part of the reason I tend to buy most of my multiplatform games for the 360. I was sick of seeing nearly every PS3 multiplatform game I looked at having worse aliasing, lower texture resolution, missing effects, more screen tearing, slower frame rate, and fuzzier image quality than the 360 counterparts.

A few well-funded and overhyped exclusives does nothing to change that. Killzone 2 and Uncharted look exceptionally good, but not nearly as good as PS3 fanboys would lead you to believe. They are not really doing anything more technically impressive than games like Gears of War 2, Alan Wake, Assassin's Creed or Resident Evil 5. All of these games show their performance in different ways, but they are all more or less equal in technical terms.

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talltony - 157 days 21 hours ago

.. So your saying even though ps3 pushes out the best graphics it doesnt mean it has the best graphics? i dont get what you mean cause the exclusives are speaking for themselves! Microsoft has tons of money to fund their games and their exclusives do look noticably worse than ps3's no matter what you say.

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HQLocated111 - 157 days 21 hours ago

Hopefully they make huge improvements to the graphics of Quantum. Right now the game BARELY looks as good as Gears 2. Can't wait to see more gameplay at TGS!

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Bubble Buddy - 157 days 21 hours ago

obviously :P, I love my PS3. I wish though Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, etc. came out in the summer instead of fall >.<

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cmrbe - 157 days 21 hours ago

Education is very important. You can always game later.

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Shadow Man - 157 days 21 hours ago

There I said it.

So I just prove you wrong.

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deafphat - 157 days 21 hours ago

Forza3 only have 2 disc and 400 car. PFFFFT!!!!
BUY PS3. LOL
GT5 have 1 disc and 1,000+ cars.

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cmrbe - 157 days 21 hours ago

the bots. Man you should see them drool over the Froza 3 trailer. Poor kids think that is how real cars move in real life.

Now i know for sure the xbots are really are just little kids that are a long way off from driving cars.

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badbond1 - 157 days 21 hours ago

Who was impressed with Alan Wake at E3? It seems to me you could have heard crickets during the time Mr. Wake was shown. It's all good though. I am happy that it comes out for the xbots. However, they need something to play now!

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cmrbe - 157 days 20 hours ago

look great 3 years ago.

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Obama - 157 days 18 hours ago

I thereby awarded Alan Wake "the best looking game 3 years ago".

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k jules - 157 days 2 hours ago

I will tell you it's stupid to compare games like Uncharted to gigantic Free roaming games. Except for the characters (those were really dissapointing) the game looks beautiful, especially the enviroments wich are vast.

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gold5225 - 157 days 19 hours ago

They were actually bought by Crytek Not sure which one of the two devs but i think it was the Haze Devs.

And every thing you said is untrue.

for example please show me a Xbox 360 game that is xbox EXCLUSIVE not PC as well. that looks better than the best looking PS3 exclusive.

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STARS - 157 days 18 hours ago

"Tecmo is still around? Itagaki no longer work there which means Tecmo needs to first prove that they can manage without him."

They already have, you asshat. NGS scored better than NG2, and Sigma had nothing to do with Itagaki. Consider yourself owned. Oh, and I'd love to see you refute fact, spin away.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

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Djinn - 157 days 7 hours ago

no

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