Peter Molyneux: 'I feel sorry for Denis Dyack'

Legendary head of Lionhead Studios Peter Molyneux has said he feels sorry for Denis Dyack, the developer of upcoming Xbox 360 exclusive Too Human.

He told VideoGamer.com: "I feel sorry for Denis Dyack because you know, I think a few things were said wrong, there was that really unfortunate showing at E3 a few years ago. Everyone got on the bandwagon of saying things about Too Human. Now I've played it and, you know, it's a good game. It doesn't deserve a lot of that harsh criticism. But as soon as something starts it's very hard to turn the tide and pull it back again. Unless you've got something in your back pocket to say "Ahaa, but what about this?" then it's really really tough."

[HighDefinition]

I don`t. Denis Dyack talks alot of sh!t. Blamed "previewers" for not liking Too Human @ the time. I don`t feel sorry for some one who created their own problem.

[La Chance]

up to be a good game.
Looking at the crazy number of downloads for the demo alot of people will have the oppurtunity to see how the media was wrong about Too Human.

edit : I think you guys dont understand what I mean.
Say 1 million people downloaded the demo that makes 1 million people who will find out that the haters were wrong.That makes 1 million potentiel customers.And if you check the feedback it looks like quite alot of people were actually surprised that it didnt suck , me included.Thogh Im still noty sure if I'll be getting it.
If it was 100 downloads only that would mean only 100 hundred people would know the truth and the game would have more chances of beeig a flop

The more poeple know the truth the better it is for Silicon knights.Dont see whats so wrong about my post.

[Jandre02]

were mostly for people to see if it was the huge failure it was shaping up to be. Downloads are free, btw. So I don't think you can measure a games quality by the amount of demo downloads.

Thats more of a measure of built up hype, for or against a game.

[Mr_Potato_]

According to the previews, Too Human seems even worse than Haze. Still, when you only got Banjo and Pinata, it could be the best game to buy.

[kazuma]

number of demo downloads =/= game success or quality

[The gaming GOD]

That could be the many people that were on the fence about this game.

And judging by many of the people here, they played the demo and got rid of the demo just as fast.

So the amount of downloads says nothing

[cellypower]

the game is ok, but I wouldn't buy it though.

[tweaker]

"Say 1 million people downloaded the demo that makes 1 million people who will find out that the haters were wrong." or RIGHT.

[hazeblaze]

Some people like the game, some people think it is kind of mediocre. This will probably be one of those cult favorites that appeals to a core audience but does not translate into much retail success... much like the first Fable actually... and half of the PS2 rpg library for that matter.

I don't like the art style and the combat doesn't seem very engaging for me... I think I'll pass. But others may like it.

[decapitator]

I hope you guys see the irony in here because am absolutely laughing out loud.

Molyneux who is known to over promise and under deliver on his games is criticizing Dyack who fights with people because they don't like his game and likes to throw around a lot of terms just to confuse people into believing he knows what he is talking about...oh the joy..

[Bnet343]

The actual game isn't bad, it's the damn controls and horrid camera that mess the game up.

[Highwayman]

Peter Molyneux may have done this in the past, though he isn't doing this anymore..Futhermore his games have always been highly successful.

It's typical of some Sony fan to bash Molyneux for that...

I can see where he's coming from, it is something you wouldn't ever be able to comprehend. I have a better understanding of it. It is something that only developers would really comprehend. They know the stresses, fears, excitement, etc...that goes with making a game. Which of you understand nothing.

[jwatt]

I actually played the demo today it wasn't a bad game just not really my type of game.

[Zeevious]

as soon as an opinion is not completely supportive, your suddenly in the Counter Console Conspiracy...working night and day to undermine the entire gaming establishment of ConsoleX.

Well, I don't hate any console or any game on them but I DO have actual opinions. In this case I'm surprised at the lack of quality in this title.

Anyone with access to a demo can come to their own conclusions.
That's the beauty of a demo...Everyone can try it.

I was asked what my opinion was of the hands-on E3 demo & can only repeat the half-joking phrase I heard: "It's failure is inhuman!"

I realize there where several development issues but going from an almost complete 1990's game to now, I think Too Human has really lost something with this very very thin adaptation of "real Norse Gods"
(cybernetically enhanced so long ago, but somehow we just invented the iPhone?)

Stretching it into 3 games takes it from a thin adaptation to just empty and average with generic gameplay for something supposedly polished for years.

There's nothing new, innovative, original, or particularly unique here...unless you count 'dying' so slowly you've got time to prepare dinner.

All the industry and gamers have here is a game where the only thing updated seems like the version of Unreal Engine . . . and according to Epic they still owe them $650,000 for that.
.

So there you have it. I just don't like it, and before I'm called a Hater, or FanBrat or any other nonsense...maybe I don't like it because of the very reasons I mention: There's little to like justifying $60 or worth my time beyond the demo.

After much anticipation, I felt exactly the same way about Haze.
Saying, 'Oh that game just isn't good...I didn't like it' only makes you a 'hater' in the eyes of rival Console Cultists.

Download the demo, play it for yourself and decide If Too Human is for you...

For me, putting the game to sleep would be 'Too Humane'

[Zeevious]

to disagree without hating an entire console, just because I dislike a single game?

That's your right, though it's also mine to point out if you had an argument you would have actually made it...instead of cowardly clicking behind the veil of the internet.

But wait, you should hear what Hermod, Frey & Freya, Heimdall, Baldur & everyone else thinks...

[SlyGuy]

reminds me of how everyone felt after downloading and playing the HAZE demo.

[Zeevious]

I was really anticipating Haze & what was supposed to be a unique approach to the standard FPS game with adult themes and switching sides mid-game.

The reality was all I wanted to switch was to any other game...

Haze or Super-Rub-A-Dub?
Super-Rub-A-Dub or Haze?

I can't decide which is a better First Person Shooter.

[Superfragilistic]

I don't feel sorry for Dyack, but I do feel sorry for Too Human.

The game is much better than some would lead you to believe and is a refreshing experience for console gamers looking for something different.

It seems the demo and more recent previews/showings are starting to turn the tide. I just hope they have that "something in your back pocket" that Molyneux talks about to help push the game further. :)

[KRUSSIDULL]

Aggre this game looks awsome everyone should give it a try.

[Acidicpack]

I Agree bro After playing the demo and giving it a chance its a game that could easily suck you in for hours and hours just trying to get all that loot. + the story was top notch just from what was shown in Demo. Going to be a great game. Sure the controls take some getting use to but its worth it. Its a day one buy for me.

And for all the haters.
I know its been getting bad press and its easy to jump on the band wagon when every one is bashing something. But just play it for your self and then be the judge. I have a feeling that its going to be a great sleeper hit.

[Xi]

Not included in the demo was co-op, I'm sure it completely changes the feel of the game. Playing too human with a friend probably makes for an awesome time, specially if it's more challenging and when both are at higher levels.

[ChampIDC]

The only thing I could possibly complain about from the demo was the animations. Sure, they're not great, but I think the gameplay, story, and item collection really makes up for it. The controls took some getting used to, but I felt they were very effective once I got the hang of it. I'm personally looking forward to the game, but I've always been a big Diablo buff. The game isn't for everyone, but I think it's going to be a solid RPG overall.

[Superfragilistic]

It's pending at the mo, but you can find it here: http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/...

Raises some pretty legitimate questions about whether the Easter Egg will be good or bad for the game. Personally I think good, but then I would've thought the game was pretty average if I didn't know how to unlock the other classes and was stuck with the Champion.

[Nevers]

..and that's before I knew how to unlock the other classes or played em. I'm buying Too Human more than likely. There just wasn't that much that was bad about the game at all that I noticed. I could nit-pick about voice acting but it wasn't nail-scraping-chalkboards (ie Two Worlds)

... and just WOW... I didn't even know Peter Molyneux could speak of anyone else besides himself in a positive light... just WOW!!!

[Bloodwar]

I had a blast, and was left wanting more when the demo ended. Really.

[N2NOther]

I found the demo to be a complete bore.

[Highwayman]

Agreed.
Personally I think Too Human has got that "something in it's back pocket" I think the game will do well. But we'll have to see if it's convincing enough for gamers.
I know I've enjoyed the demo. I plan on buying this title myself.

[N2NOther]

I love when people disagree with me when I said I found the demo to be a complete bore. So they're saying I DIDN'T find it a complete bore? IQ tests should be mandatory.

[Arutha]

The demo put my fears to rest on the purchase of the game. The single mission was engaging enough with Champion class then being able to play the other classes to see the difference in game play sealed the deal for me. The graphics were better then I thought and I liked the different aspects of the choices you could make on your skills. The various weapons will be fun to use too. The controls were fairly easy to get used too after about 5 minutes and the camera system is not all that bad.

The fact that you get to play the game online with a friend is going to be a big selling point I think. I am curious what the create a character will be like too. It will be interesting to see what add ons they bring to the game through the marketplace. It would be nice for a few side missions hopefully.

[Jandre02]

Did he just confirm that Too Human sucks balls? I mean its not like he said "I'm so happy Denis got to prove the doubters wrong" He said "I feel sorry for him."

LOLOL. Pwnt.

I just might buy Fable 2 now after seeing this guy be so honest.
...
Actually, no I wont. Only 360 game I will buy is Gears 2. That is a thing of beauty right there. :-D.

[Montrealien]

No, he said

(Now I've played it and, you know, it's a good game. It doesn't deserve a lot of that harsh criticism. But as soon as something starts it's very hard to turn the tide and pull it back again)

Did you read even it? this game is getting more and more positive Previews and Hype in the Forums. I`m buying it, a few people I know are buying it, and 95% of the people that hate it in comments sections and forums never even played it and are anonymous tools, like the ones that will dissagree with this comments without saying why. But if you play it and it ain`t for you, I can respect your opinion, I like it, and for me, that is all that matters.

[Jandre02]

Do you really expect him to say "Oh man, that demo was complete a$$." If he is talking about the game of course he is going to say its good. Did he say great or amazing?" Here's a rule of thumb when developers are discussing other developers' titles.

"I haven't played it"= Horrible

"Good" = Poor

"Great" = Good

"Amazing" = Great

"Epic" = Amazing

Lol. I'm sure someone somewhere said Lair was "good" as well.

[Montrealien]

If that`s your scale, that`s your scale. And you know what? I know someone that said Lair was good....me.

Fact of the matter is, you commented on a title and never played this game and you let other people guide your opinion, you seem ok with that, I`m not. I like Too Human, like other people here and from what I am seing, most of the ones that don`t like it here have not even played it. I respect if you don`t like the game, try to respect that I do.

[Bladestar]

I think the game will do just fine.. regardless of how many people (specially in this site) are working overtime to make this game fail... besides there were some lesson learn and I think thanks to that microsoft learn a few "not to do"... like announcing games too early in the development cycle; leave that to Sony... 2 E3 ago Microsoft tried to follow sony strategy of showing games (even before they start development) in order to sell games.. they tried to show actual gameplay!... while Sony played it safe and showed only CGI.. that was the mistake.... Sony would never showed actual gameplay... get people hyped (like Kill Zone 2) get some people to buy PS3 and release the game 4 years later... Microsoft new strategy of showing only games that are far in the development cycle... this is why you didn't hear much about many games we know are still cooking.. Games like Alan wake.. while Sony once again showed some CGI about a new game that may be released 4 years from now.

[Superfragilistic]

I agree. MS has certainly changed tact on the way they show their games. After the Alan Wake and Too Human lessons of E3'06 I think they've adopted a don't show too early approach.

In fact, despite criticism from some corners, I think it shows immense confidence in product for MS to get up and largely say at E3 two years in a row now "We're only showing you our exclusives for the '08('07) holiday lineup".

I'm still amazed they kept Gears 2 & Banjo 3 quiet until GDC this year. They announced both with a little over six months before release!

It also gets me excited as to what we'll see next year... because by staying so quiet, beyond Halo Wars I have no freakin clue what they're up to! lol

[TheColbertinator]

Thats the thing though Bladestar.When you get their attention and give them business for their PS3 games,they arrive to downplay games like Too Human or Tales of Vesperia,games whose futures are uncertain for now.Simply wait for the reviews to come out and the reaction of the gaming community.Because if Too Human does not meet expectations,not only will the fanboys have a field day,but a potential new franchise on the 360 will be forgotten.

Its unfair to be biased against any company for a game they have'nt released yet.If that were the case,many games today would only be sequels or franchises.

[DJ]

With no RSX unit, no flex I/O bandwidth, and slower memory. To expect Sony and their developers to have shown actual gameplay footage at E3 2005 is an impossible expectation. It was either Show Target Renders, or Have Shortest Conference Ever.

If you look at the trends though, Sony has become more inclined to show gameplay footage rather than target render, striking a pretty good balance so far. Microsoft tried the CG route as well, and seem fairly comfortable with it. Neither company has felt any backlash since late last year.

[Shroomy]

I know a lot of people who did! so it will probably sell pretty good, despite all this negative media attention.

[kevnb]

the media tries to convince us reviews and previews matter, but in reality they matter to very few people. 50 cent bulletproof still outsold okami, no matter what some internet writer said.

[ChampIDC]

It's always nice to see somebody just honestly say that they didn't enjoy a game instead of just saying it plain sucks. I can't stand the people that automatically say a game sucks because they just didn't like it. Bubbles for you for being a reasonable person.

[Infernus]

The press don't make the game and won't be playing the game like us gamers would be so in all honesty try out the games and buy the ones you want to keep playing, it's the only way to find out what you enjoy playing. The media aren't you so to speak lol, you make your own decisions, many get so tied up in metascores that they never give the badly reviewed games a chance.

Remember Heavenly Sword's media attention? This site was lit up by article after article and fanboys saying the game's too short and it sucks, had they tried it? No of course not, they listened to the media attention and blindly followed. Having played the game, it didn't suck. I felt it was a very well laid out game but although the story was good the game was too short, it was a good game, just not enough for me personally.

Too Human could be exactly the same. So don't believe everything you read, try out the demo and if you like it then buy it, if you don't you haven't spent anything on a demo have you?

[bumnut]

you get some cool moves/weapons when you level up a few times.

i like the style of the camera too, but it did take a while to get used to not using the right stick to control it.

1st day purchase for me, i don't know why so many people dislike it

[kevnb]

Atleast of the people who tried it, most seem to like but not love the demo.

[ChampIDC]

The animations may not be perfect, but I think overall, the combat is pretty fresh and exciting. I'm also buying it first day.

[kevnb]

mostly because Eternal Darkness was so good once you got into it.

[ud]

When is this game coming out?

[Lord Vader]

08/19 I believe...

[Superfragilistic]

All good mate but release date is less than a month away!

For US it is 19 August 2008, for Europe and the rest 29 August 2008.

http://xbox360.ign.com/obje...

Interestingly IGN has classified it in the "Action Adventure" genre. Which to be honest, beyond the heavy stats and loot, seems much more accurate. :)

[ChampIDC]

My latest Game Informer confused me, because it said 8/12. I always heard 8/19 until then. I guess their info was outdated maybe.

[TOSgamer]

Seems like a relatively nice guy and he speaks his mind which is more then you can say about most of the fakes in the game industry. Disappointing that Too Human is only about 10 hours long though.

[cloudman]

Who are these people!!!!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Dennis Dyack certainly is partially to blame in part for the overly harsh views this game has taken on. He certainly isn't one to back down from a fight and honestly, I can respect that from him. As long as he understands that his actions are volatile and will spark flames then so be it.

What I do feel sorry for are the other guys at SK, who have poured their hearts and souls into making (btw its a very good game) Too Human. These are the guys that don't have a voice and are getting thrown to the wolves by the community unfairly.

The game is good...the company SK deserves praise for their game not harsh words. You can hate on Dennis all you want, but SK employees certainly deserve better than what this all has brought about.

[ChampIDC]

I'm sure all the devs will get their just rewards if the game is a success. The sales won't be groundbreaking, but I'm sure in the worst case they'll sell at least 3 million.

[Highwayman]

You realize 3 million is a pretty good number, right? I think Gears of War sold around that or was it 4.5 million copies. MGS4 sold arounf the 3 million-5 million marker...3 million is pretty good.

[rhood022]

My predictions for the game:

average reviews = 75-83% range

Great sales (over 500,000) due mostly to lack of releases, the achievement whor*s, and those who will trick themselves that the game is fun.

I mean, we as gamers are guilty of this last one.

As for Too Human, I gave the demo the benefit of the doubt and thought, "well SK has an impressive track record, so the final product might be good." But going back to play Eternal Darkness revealed that SK is just an average developer who can craft an amazing story. After playing Too Human, I can see the same dynamic.

Before people say "what about Twin Snakes?" That game did nothing but take gameplay dynamics from MGS 2 and add graphical polish afforded by the Gamecube. The core gameplay, however, was already in place thanks to MGS 2.

[FPS nut]

Funny watching PS3 fanboy, one who's only experiance with the game is N4G or Gametrailers try and give the game a score. Hey! lets play a game, it's called fill in the blanks.

T_ _ _ L <--- if you can guess that I'll give you an anti jealous cookie.

Back to reality... It would seem the positive buzz about this game is outweighing the anti PS3 train's bad, and is growing daily with each new preview and download of the demo.

[rhood022]

Fanboy huh? Last time I checked, having an opinion wasn't indicative of being a Fanboy.

Also, check the profile and notice the oh so apparent 360 Gamertag I have!

D_ _ K <----Guess the letters and learn something about yourself.

[FPS nut]

Owning both does not qualify you as a "non fanboy" every comment you write is pro Sony, which would make you Sony fanboy. I have seen so many multi console owners talk trash on one of the consoles they own it's not even funny. Seen pro Wii multiconsole owners, Pro 360 multiconsole owners, Pro PS3 multiconsole owners and even pro PC. So your credibility is as good as mine or anyones when it comes to being biased or "not biased" <--- which IMO can't be done. It's all in your comments, mine tend to lean more for the 360, my name should give you the clue why. Does that mean I hate my PS3? no it just means it's not my prefrence at this time, but unlike you I don't post anti Sony, MS or Nintendo anything unless they do somthing stupid.

Here is another B _ _ _ D Hint: "as a bat"

[rhood022]

Whose posting anti-MS anything or pro-Sony anything? I was giving an opinion based on my time with the demo and how I see the ultimate result of its release is going to go.

Since you seem to have an opinion of my posting history, take another look. I'm not pro or anti anything. I respond to idiotic posts and give my opinion as to why they are idiotic. It just so happens that the majority of the ones I reply to are posted by 360 Fanboys.

[solideagle1]

what this developer said was like it will compete god of war. but i hope it sell well. it is being developed for 10 years.
thanx

[FPS nut]

It wasn'r developed for 10 years, just 3. The rest of the time was design and dicussions about "how" to make it.

Stop trolling, you sound like DJ.

[devilhunterx]

3 years developing on the XB2. 7 years dwidling their thumbs.

[InMyOpinion]

I agree with Peter Molyneux. Too Human has gotten a lot of undeserved criticism. It's becoming a trend to hate on it. The demo was amazing and I really look forward to playing the full game.

[Tmac]

LOL.

[Jandre02]

How many people who aren't fanboys or have made new accounts have commented on how "AWESOMELY GOOD" Too Human is.

But really, this is just the backlash of Haze and Lair. It's fun to watch these Xbots who care more about bashing the PS3 than play games get a craptastic game of their own and gripe about how were being "too hard" on the title.

Too Human, to me, is just one less game the Xbots have in their lineup.

PS3 Exclusives this year 1.5/2 (MGS4 deserves a 1.5)

Xbox360 0/1.

[na2ru1]

Jenzo pretending we're still in the year 1998

i say 1998 because the controls and camera were not to last gens standard let alone this gen.

animation not even motion captureed in some parts lol.

unacceptable.

[FPS nut]

You have no camera control on God of War, this at least gives you the ability to stop and look around, move the camera close and far back.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I wouldn't go as far as to say amazing but it's damn good and enough to make it a first day buy for me.

And FPS Nut just qwned with that God of War comment.

[Playstation Man]

shut up.

And FPS Nut "qwned" himself with that comment. He just took a stand against one of the best reviewed, most loved franchises of last-gen to stand behind this god-awful pile of crap.

Yes, I played the demo. IT SUCKED. Get over it X-Bots. You're stuck with a Haze/Lair too. It happens, only on XBOX this time around.

[Montrealien]

Said generic fanboy number 152....

kidding aside, I respect you did not like it, but I must to inform you that your opinion is not the end all of gaming verdics, get over yourself.

[Obama]

Check out the GT review of god of war 2. They gave a gold metal to whoever designed the camera since it never gets in your way. You only need to adjust your camera if it blocks your view; this is not the case of gow, so you don't need any control over it!

Have you bots even played gow?

[NewSchoolGamer]

with solideagle1, I played the demo and it was really fun but I don't think the game will be AAA.

Sorry guys but not all new IP MS exclusives are the second coming. Haven't you noticed that every new IP that pops up exclusive to the xbox360 is hugely hyped up? The only good franchises that MS has hyped up is Gears. Mass Effect had so much hype yet ratchet and clan I believe recieved similar scores!!!

DON'T CALL US FANBOYS JUST BECAUSE WE THINK TOO HUMAN WON'T BE THE NEXT BIG FRANCHISE.

[Xi]

it seems like most of those claims come from unproven franchises and cgi trailers for games like mag, killzone 2, lair. None of which should be held in the regards they currently are. None of which are doing anything impressive or new.

At least too human is trying a new control scheme for console rpg's.

[DJ]

Then you certainly have to add Killzone to that list. I've never seen a 1st-person cover system like KZ's in any other FPS. And by the way; they haven't shown CG since 2005. It's been entirely gameplay footage since last year, though it's hard for some people to tell (completely understandable).

[ud]

Nothing impressive or new?

Lair had THOUSANDS of things going on at the same time on the screen and great graphics. Brand new motion controls (that a lot of people didn't like but once you get the hang of it isnt bad)

Killzone 2 has incredible graphics, the characters react very well when being shot instead of normal animations, has the BEST lighting ever seen in a video game, destructible environnements crazy explosions and physics as well as a Multi-player with a badge system that you can combine different skills to create a class suitable for your style of play. It also has a cool cover system for 1st person.

Maybe killzone 2 doesn't have anything "new", but they're doing a damn good job at assembling the best aspects of first person shooters.

I own both consoles btw, but since you brought up Killzone 2, what does Halo 3 have that is so special? It's the same good ol run & shoot with (in my opinion) no out of the ordinary features.

COD4 didn't have anything special except maybe perks, but it's an awesome game.

But back on topic : Too human seems like a great action-RPG, a genre of game that has been lacking in quality this gen imo, day 1 buy for me!

[ChampIDC]

It's true that Killzone 2 isn't really doing anything "new", but everything it's doing seems to be very well done so far. That's like saying the current generation of Ninja Gaiden isn't doing anything impressive, because you could jump around slash things up in the original NES Ninja Gaidens!

[NewSchoolGamer]

Then why if I say that the game will be good but not AAA I get disagrees?

Nobody said lar would be the second coming, it was supposed to be the first "good" PS3 game and it sucked.

Killzone 2 looks better and plays better than Too human from what I've seen since you like to talk about unreleased games. MAG is a year away and they already released an ingame screenshot which looks just as good as the CGI trailer if not extremely close.

Too Human does have somthing new for console RPgs but Littlebigplanet has something new for the whole Video game industry.

[dachiefsman]

How on earth do you compare KZ2 and Too Human. They are not even in the same genre. This article mentions nothing of the PS3 or any PS3 game. You are just trying to flame.

On topic: Dyack just opened his month to much and should have followed suit to Molyneux. I don't feel sorry for him, but I will enjoy this game.

[ngg12345]

Worst than alot of good games, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Heavenly sword had like a 80% metacritic average, and were alot better (nicely put) then what I've seen and played from too human. Too Human demo wasn't terrible garbage like haze or lair, but was incredibly mediocre. Will get a 65-75 metacritic average. .But on the side note, why is peter molyneux sorry for denis dyack. He did the same thing as him, and overrated his garbage to the point it was the second coming and turned out average. Overpromised on every game besides "the movies". Black and White, Fable, and Black and white 2 didn't have features that he MENTIONED would be in the game.

[FPS nut]

Man I remember when it was all doom and gloom for this game, and PS3 fanboys helped with the FUD writing many anti Too Human blogs and posting as many as they could get away with. The tide has changed though, the positive buzz about the game being real good, well made and a heck of a good story are starting to sink in. This game will give Diablo gamers a good fix till 3 comes out thats for sure and with co-op added to it is just icing. After you get used to the steep learning curve, the game is like a drug, I have never played a demo so much in my life, and the good buzz is starting to drown out the haters. I'm not one to predict things, because they seem to come back at you... but I see this game scoring in the low 9's. The camera takes getting used to, but it doesn't get in the way when your in a tough fight like the Ninja Gaiden series. I am realy looking forward to seeing how far I can take my character and how much of a god I can truely make him.

[zapass]

sorry... sob
life is sooooo unfair... sob
pleeeeeeeeeez give this game a chance... sob

lol

[pixelsword]

Yes, his comments were bad and his game may suffer from it, but the game itself was what made the comments start in the first place... if the game is good it will still sell well: Heavenly Sword sold a million and got bad reviews, but it sold well because it was a good game. Too Human has the same chance if it's the same quality.

[Montrealien]

Well said. +bubble. I loved Heavenly Sword. This game does deserve a f air shake, like any game really.

[na2ru1]

Gameplay wise and controls, it is what you'd expect in the year 1998. We have games that evolved to a certain standard to this point in time. That is, if the camera is controlable, make it controllable freely(right analogue?). Guns? aim freely with guns(dual analogue!!!)

the animations aren't even motion captured on certain parts if i may have noticed correctly.

millions of people downloaded it to see if reviews were wrong including me. i was expecting everything i mentioned above. the hate on this game is NO WAY opinionated. media was right to hate this game

[NewSchoolGamer]

Easy kid you look at what they do for their genre and how good they are in how they are meant to be played.

[dachiefsman]

What they do for their genre so that is your comparison and how they are to be played?

Too Human is at least bringing something new and different to the console. I can't think of one game that would be similar to it currently on consoles. Typically one would not be foolish to compare an action-RPG with a FPS. KZ2 for that matter is not pushing any envelopes unless you want to throw graphics into it but that has nothing to do with the genre itself. I am not saying KZ2 isn't going to be awesome, but besides graphics I didn't see anything "genre" pushing. Plus you don't even know how good KZ2 will be or even how it will play likewise with Too Human.

Your comparison is like comparing an Army Hummer to a Porsche. It fails. Plus why are you even bringing up KZ2 for that matter, it has nothing to do with the topic.

At least back up your argument, kid.

[Highwayman]

No, I disagree. You can't compare a game based on it's genre, really what you're saying is that KZ2 looks better, so what? Graphics aren't everything. After all it is just another run and gun FPS. There's only so much innovation that can be thrown into an FPS, unlike an RPG.
You're clearly a KZ2 fan...yet could you handle any critism of KZ2? Would you not aruge that you can't pass judgement on a game that hasn't even come out yet?
Don't get me wrong it looks nice, but I haven't played it for myself.
I am much more looking forward to Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway.
Now there's a game of which you can compare to KZ2, and please spare the "graphics" arguement.
I like the fact that in BiA I have the ability to find, fix, flank, finish. I also like the fact that the accuracy isn't "pinpoint" It take some skill to hit someone behind cover, hell it takes some skill to pull off a decent shot when the enemy is out in the open..But BiA nor KZ2 is apart of the topic today...Too Human is. You would have been better off comparing Too Human to say...to an RPG coming for the PS3.

Conclusion.
Too Human will be fine, it'll do great, and it has a lot of potential.
KZ2 looks great! I'll probably pick it up within the first week of it's release. The fact remains is that it's a good time for Gamers...
Esp. when Fable II comes out...(for me at least)

[Superfragilistic]

Bubbles for Highway and dachiefsman for civil and well thought arguments. :)

PS: Can't wait for Fable to either. ;)

[andron]

I haven't even played the demo, but to write off this game even before it's released is just plain dumb.

[ngg12345]

It is average, mediocre, what ever you want to say. The only people who enjoyed the game stated that they had to play the demo 3 times to find enjoyment. I've never played a demo more than once, and don't care to finish a demo that sucks.

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

Peter molyneux is such a tool, he thinks he is some legendary dev like kojima but hes a worthless wannabe who only made some feeble(pun intended) game!!!

[Highwayman]

Peter molyneux is a legend. He doesn't think he is. It's everyone who isn't blind by their own ignorance and an almost religious type of loyalty to their console who thinks this. Just look at any respected opinions and you'll see that many do think he is a legend. Far more people think he is, than those who hold your biased opinion.
That alone speaks volumes.
Tell me what have you done in the gaming industry? What game have you developed? Must be easy to pass judgement of which you do not comprehend.

EDIT: At the phantom disagree, state why you disagree with me. Or is it that you have nothing to bring to the table because of your inability to argue.

"Worthless wannabe" "who only made a feeble game"

This sums up your argument, which is both worthless and feeble.
Apparently you're the tool.

Here is some advice, kid. Grow up. Peter molyneux is a great developer.
Kojima is a great developer. The reality is which both of them are in their own rights. Kojima is great for his storytelling abilities more than anything. Peter Molyneux is known best for his innovation and ideas. They both as developers bring something great to the table.

So your comment was childish at best. Insulting a gaming legend just makes you look...well..dumb.

Edit:
Wow, you call that a rebuttle? Your insults just go to show me that you've nothing to argue, you can't bring anything to the table, so you just rely on insults.
And why is it that you ignore my questions, incapable of answering them?

"worthless wannabe" again much lke your argument, and more like yourself, no?
Kojima is sucessful, as is Peter.
As I've said they both bring greatness with them. Anyone with an unbiased view can clearly see this.
Go on amuse me. Next time you post, post something worthwhile.
I am a noob, huh? Back it up, you need something to support your claim.

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

they are not both great cus kojima is way more successful.

as I said before molyneux = worthless wannabe

highwayman = complete n00b

[LuHawk]

kojima is a Hoe just like you

[LuHawk]

PS3 sucks

[ChickeyCantor]

" But as soon as something starts it's very hard to turn the tide and pull it back again"
And this kind of sh/t happens like 90% with games.

Few people say something and the rest just follow like a bunch of sheeps.

[The Milkman]

I didnt enjoy the demo.

[Neo604]

cause he work with MS

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

How about more Black and White...

...and less feeling sorry?

I'm kidding. Thanks Pete. Denis doesn't deserve the criticism. He's worked hard on this game. Trust me...I know.

Now...make Fable 2 worth my while!

[resistance100]

I was looking forward to this game, however the demo really did put me off quite a bit.