Bungie responds to E3 cancellation

Bungie said Wednesday that a "metric ton of man hours" went into getting its E3 announcement ready before it got pulled, and it shares fans' disappointment in the turn of events.

[ps3fosho]

haha they knew that any game they had wouldnt beat the ps3 new games

[pwnsause]

when they heard about MAG, they just went back into their cave.

[thor]

They were about to announce Halo 4 with 32 player peer to peer games... lol

[Fart In Your Mouth]

PS3 owners with nothing better to do than spam 360 related articles. Blame Sony for not providing you with any games.

[morganfell]

What was Microsoft's biggest announcement? A multiplatform game? Sony's biggest announcement? An exclusive that crushes 5 v 5 games. You are an idiot.

[Montrealien]

I can't agree with that. Albeit I can't wait for MAg, it looks like the true sequel to Soccom in my books. A game franchise I really enjoyed. But I really think MS saw sony's Keynote and thought to themselves,

"ok we got this one, let's not over kill"

Anything Halo would take away the focus of their showing of games "Wich I agree was not many" but are mostly coming out this year. They just decided to stay focused on 08 imho.

And Mag is once again a Sony game with many target renders that we won't see for at least a few years, nothing new there. And I can't wait for it, the concept looks sick. But we won't be playing this monster for a while.

[syanara]

yet here you are? blame MS for giving you nothing better to do than bash sony gamers

[Pain]

Story was stupid Vague and kinda lame, then its "Finish the Fight" huh? no its not over oh? it was "Finished over there" so we BACK ON!!!

halos story was the only thing i like about it but went down hill after 2, 3 sucked well kinda~ not as bad a 2 was..

RFOM is my new luv Much better in everyday. Disagree button hear "V"

[JEDI WOLVERINE]

Bungie redefined online gaming with Halo2 matchmaking system and even though Halo3 has lost its place it still has qualities other fps's aspire to be like.

[fafoon]

You really believe that crap

Edit @ icewake
read what the guy say's then then come back

But here it is

Bungie redefined online gaming with Halo2 matchmaking system

Ok you might believe that because your only 10 and don't know any different
So not gonna bother explaning anymore

[iceice123]

Have to be an idiot to not believe it. Console online gaming was nothing before Halo 2, it brought it to life.

[games4fun]

.sigh. i know its going to be a waste responding to you but here goes:

the pc games did everything halo did YEARS before them, in fact it was many years that pc gaming enjoysed these features you credit halo for.

second, the console version of online gameing credit is given to the dreamcast which had Fps games as well as other games to play online i should know, i was playing them maybe your to young to realize this but the reason halo has so many haters is not because people are just jealous it is because we played games that did everything halo did and better long before it came along but for some unfathomable reason Halo is given all the credit by kids and xbox players who dont know better.

[Xi]

but it was marathon

the first fps to:
include ambient AI
include mission objectives
include multi-tier levels
include dual wielding
include enviromental effects
include secondary fire on weapons
include a level editor built into the game
include 3d graphics in an fps game

and guess what... bungie made this game in 1994. It's probably the most influential fps game ever made. Sadly, since it was on a mac not many got the chance to play it. But Wolfenstien created the genre, Doom popularized the genre, Marathon revolutionized it.

also, halo was the first game to introduce matchmaking, vehicle boarding, it's weapon scheme it popularized regenerating health, and it proved that fps's can be done on consoles and it did a lot more. Anyone who doesn't think halo did a lot isn't a true FPS fan.

[Wraith001]

You missed Quake for making kick ass death match's online.

[Montrealien]

You guys missed the point that this is consoles. Yes, I was waiting for my friends phone calls to get into a Duke Nukem 3D match in the 90's also, which btw, was before Quake ;D. But when it came to consoles Halo 2 made it legit. Accept it. Not sure if Doom or Wolfenstein had some form of Dial-up online gaming but they where my first "Lan" experiences, along with Decent....awww those where the days.

On a side note, Quake 3 on the DC was the first true Console online FPS, then came Soccom which I really enjoyed. But Stats, matchmaking, cultural phenomenon, Halo 2 takes the cake.

[Wraith001]

You remember King Pin? That would be a great game to bring to either or both consoles.

[Xi]

But at least I know that they're working on something, and it's ready to be shown.

Hopefully it will come soon, I'm sure whatever it will be will be absolutely amazing.

[skillednutter]

Looks like M$ still call the shots @ Bungie even after independence lol

So much for being a free spirit, that was money well spent.

Hell M$ did not need another Halo Anouncement anyway with GOW2 and Halo Wars this year, they will save that for another Games Converence along with Alan Wake!

[RacingX]

Actually they DID need something exclusively big because all they have is Gears 2. Halo Wars is not coming until 2009.

[Kaneda]

Maybe M$ didn't give them cash to show up! instead M$ gave money to SE.. :)

[VirusE]

Screw MS, i am tired of this PR bs. Just let us see the games already, we know they exist for god sakes!!

[kevnb]

microsoft just doesn't announce games for the next year at e3 anymore.

[vasilisk]

You mean like FFXIII?

[deeznuts]

FFXIII is looking 2010, and it wasn't announced. The world has known about FFXII for a looooong time.

[foodbox]

Hey, the Open Zone is >>

[Kaneda]

FFXIII was the biggest announcement @ this E3.. if it was a long time. It wouldn't be BIG!

[rawd]

hahahahaahahahhahaha

[Leathersoup]

<nerdmode> In metric it's spelled tonne and pronounced like tawn. </nerdmode>

:P

[shine1396]

well depends on your accent....really...american, england english...etc

[Leathersoup]

Well the spelling doesn't change due to location, and your accent shouldn't really. Either way tonne shouldn't be pronounced the same as ton.

[EnglishPatriot]

"england english"

It's called English because it comes from England. So really it's just plain English not England English.

[DreDawgg06]

Guys, its a smart move and it further solidifies Microsofts domination this holiday.

[IzKyD1331]

thats what happens when MS is your publisher....they will control your games as if its their's

[Mausenheimmer]

Don't get me wrong, I'm as disappointed as the next guy, but this is what all publishers do. They control release dates and information.

[foodbox]

Take your ignornat, baseless rants to the open zone. You dont know what your talking about.

[Turntable Jack]

its true, with playstation winning the momentum war for half a year now, the 360 got most of it back at e3, and will save announcements for later when they are needed.

People criticize ms for not having exclusives past 2008, and you are wrong. Microsoft doesn't talk about stuff that isn't very close to arriving.

[iHEARTboobs]

People are getting over the FFXIII exclusivity issue. I still think the PS3 will benefit more because it's still partially exclusive AND Versus is still exclusive.

[Lucreto]

Other than the FF announcement the rest of the show was okay. Sony did a better job overall.

I see MS major advantage would apply to the US as more of Europe dislike MS.

It will Help Sony as well.

1. Sell more in Japan and Europe and will sell consoles as people will want to continue the story with Verus XIII if the get the 360 version.

2. Sony is on the SE board of Directors (how the announcement got passed them I don't know) they will give extra profit to Sony.

[N4g_null]

LOL Mo MS will benifit more by having FF13 the xbox 360 is cheaper and a $199 would do just fine for FF13 and I will be in disk switching heaven!

[Lucreto]

I am not saying MS won't benefit but Sony will benefit more with the reasons above.

[wicked]

scissor_runner: you don't need to do disk switching, you can rip them to the hard drive in the fall update. :)

[n00bzRtehgey]

it's called keeping a secret from your sworn enemy, Fony.

[Solid_Snake666]

y keep it a secret we wont make a cheap rip off like you guys do!!!

[andron]

That MS might have dropped the announcement for a different reason?

Not because they were confident with their conference and wanted to save it, but because they lacked faith and didn't think it would be big enough?

Just playing the devils advocate here, so don't bite my head off...

[InMyOpinion]

I think they want to save it to TGS or some other conference. It would be in competition with the FFXIII unveiling and one would steal the focus of the other.

[zonetrooper5]

There is TGS next month then you got X08 which is Microsoft's own even so don't expect MS to reveal everything at once.

[BUKKAKALYPSE]

not to release antything because initial plans were to drop another MEGATON and trumph whatever exciting things SONY had. Unfortunately for everyone SONY did not deliver this E3 therfor they're going to save it for anoter day once the buzz from E3 fades

[n00bzRtehgey]

lmao. u nailed it.

sony's showing was so garbage, M$ had no reason to respond.

[morganfell]

When Warner announced it was going Bluray, the HD DVD group cancelled their CES announcements because they had their walnuts crushed.

The same thing happened here. Sony fired the Death Star code named MAG and Microsoft threw up their hands and it went down like this:

Jeff Greenberg: "We're doomed! We're screwed! We're a couple of doomed guys that just got screwed!"

Robbie Bach: "Shut Up! Hell, you're right. We're screwed. Cancel the Bungie announcement because anything we say now would just look desperate."

Jeff Greenberg: "But we are desperate!"

Robbie Bach: "I know, I know. But we just can't look that way! Boy I am glad Guerrilla didn't say anything about 32 players online or clan support!"

[ArthurLee]

Well at least Sony secured WB. They make some pretty great games. Mwhaaaa!

I'm sure Sony couldn't think of anything else to do with that $500 million , hello to FFXIII , DMC4 and Assassins Creed on the 360!

Also MAG = Death Star.....surely you can't be serious?

[Mausenheimmer]

Well this is disappointing. The only positive is Microsoft gave a very good show without pulling out any Halos. Still, this saddens me that it was not an elaborate prank.

[englandsbest316]

obviously microsoft knew that obtaining FFXIII was a HUGE deal in the gaming industry so i don't blame them for holding off the bungie announcment, microsoft didnt even show forza 3, alan wake ect ect, they made a HUGE impact this E3 without even having to show that much footage of their other games in development.... looks to me like microsoft have plenty going on for them in 2009 and beyond.......

[zethos56]

This huge Bungie announcement should have taken the place of all the casual crap they had at E3. But instead they shut Bungie up and simply say that a new Halo game is coming out (yea makes a lot of sense).

I can see this hurting MS-Bungie relations.

[Space_cancer]

Fak that countdown, if u got nothing to show off!!

[abczby]

WOWOWOWWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW! First Microsoft Renames meatflag submission and now this.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

ur not red e
u r nt rdee
youre not ready
live in your world play in ours
play beyond

Translation?:
you will be surprised
you suck
not enough money for a ps3?
have a montly bill or buy a video game system
don't play with dolls, create your design

Hello, max?
cancel my account please.
I don't wanna pay for nothing no more, maybe I'll try a free trial in November but sorry I'm done.
I'm the Master now!
Sell, trade & upgrade.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Look how long it took them to make Halo 3 - does anyone think this game actually did the hardware justice!? I was excited about a new Halo until I found out it was being dev. by Bungie(ugh).

And about FF13 - yeah, MS was trying to say they are only going to debut games that will be released this year, so what's the deal w/ announcing FF when it wont even be released til 2010, not even b4 the next e3?

The 360 version will take a year to dev., FF13 is powered by the crystal tools engine which is strictly a PS3 application. There are rumors that their is a PC version of the game running, which shouldn't be too hard to port to 360, but still, by the time it arrives to that console the game's gonna be old news.

[darkequitus]

At GDC it was announced for PS3, 360, Windows and Wii. See Gamautra etc.

[madmike]

by waiting a year that a game like ff13 or any other ff game would become boring you are a sheep. i would buy any remake so would alot of other people. because people own a 360 doesnt mean that they didnt own ps1 gamecube ps2 psp ect

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

All I'm saying is that it was a cheap tactic on MS's part to announce a game that isn't coming out for its console in 2yrs, roughly about a year before the PS3 version comes out. They were just trying to steal some thunder from PS3, but they neglected to mention some important details like the ones I just stated.

[foodbox]

Shut up.

MS is **NOTORIOUS** for **NOT** announcing games until very near their release. People on this forum are (even above you FFS) complaining that they want information about games sooner than MS wants to release it.

Now your hear belly-aching that they released the info "2 years" in advance and your angry?

I think that you're just bitter and angry that people will buy an Xbox 360 to play Final Fantasy and that makes you know that MS and SE have helped further bury the PS3.

Give your empty nonsense a rest, you sound like a child.

[Zulwarn]

bungie can take their time w/e they release will pwn the heck out of "F@G" or w/e g@y title phony has to offer

after all phony's so called halo-killers always end up killing itself
hahahaa

[Balance]

i did read something last night that although MS cancelled the bungie announcement they are going to have a conference sometime in the near future that is 100% dedicated to the bungie projects.

i understand why they did it, you even mention the word halo and nothing else they said at e3 would matter. and now MS is going to pay for a bungie only event, that has to make them feel better. not the mention MS the past few years at e3 have only been showing games coming out in the next 6 months, the bungie stuff is probably farther out than that.

[FAT MAN GO BOOM]

I am sure what they had to show would have been kick ass... I was looking forward to see what they were going to bring to the table....

It is very odd that it happen like this... and there is way more to it than they are saying... I wonder if it had to do with legal issues than anything else...

I hope to see what they have though soon....

[smokeymicpot]

every thing happens for a reason

[DreDawgg06]

This decision while rude since apparently Bungie didn't get the memo will only benefit them more since they will prob get a more focused stage for their 3 Halo games. Halo Wars, Halo Peter Jackson, and Halo 4 or Halo prequel.

[DraconWolfX]

Why does everyone assume this is Microsoft's fault?

What if Sony/Nintendo actually is having Bungie develop a game for them (Bungie IS independent now) and Sony/Nintendo was the ones telling them to keep quiet?

I'm just saying, could be possible.

[FAT MAN GO BOOM]

I agree it could very well be that you are right on that.. but if it was something from say sony or niny and MS had a beef it very well could have been a legal thing... that is what I was thinking...

Either way 360 niny sony I don;t care what system it is on I am looking forward to seeing what they are making...