Kojima: Peace Walker and Rising teams "are not good friends."

umair_s51 - 112 days 7 hours ago

You again
Open zone is that a way ----->

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Timesplitter14 - 112 days 7 hours ago

cry more

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GWAVE - 112 days 7 hours ago

Notice how the MGS:Rising and the MGS: Peace Walker teams are SEPARATE? Pay attention: we know that the MGS4 team is working on MGS: Peace Walker, meaning that the MGS4 team is NOT working on Rising.

It's funny how people have been playing damage control with MG:Rising, even though since day one...

- It is clearly a spin-off
- It is not the "brain child" of Kojima like Peace Walker is
- It is multiplatform

No matter how you dress it up, Rising is a spin-off that isn't getting the attention that a stinkin' PSP game is getting.

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Pennywise - 112 days 7 hours ago

I wish there was a vote to ban to open zone. I would vote him off of this game show so quick!!

People like him have been trolling ALL DAY. It is getting old.

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Rock Bottom - 112 days 7 hours ago

So Xbox fanboys do like MGS after all. :)

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pixelsword - 112 days 7 hours ago

As an Israelite king once said: "a person putting on their armor should not boast like a person taking theirs off".

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suunyd - 112 days 7 hours ago

Funny how 360 users were saying "We don't need MGS on the 360, because it's just MOVIE!1" Now, that a clear spin off with more of an Action approach with no Kojima involvement is coming as a multiplatform title to the 360... OMG! It's going to be sooo great! Catering to the 360 crowd, hence Lightning Bolt Action rather than Tactical Espionage Action.

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PirateThom - 112 days 7 hours ago

The Peace Walker team made MGS4... I don't think there's any danger of them being out done by Kojima Production's junior/b team.

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TheKonspiracy - 112 days 7 hours ago

Oh no, I don't doubt them one bit. But I have a feeling that they will try extra hard to make Rising look pale in comparison to PW.

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Avenged Sevenfold - 112 days 7 hours ago

I shall now give a bubble to whoever has a Bleach avatar. Greatest show ever. Nice Hollchigo. =)

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MariusElijah - 112 days 7 hours ago

Bleach sucks it takes forever to get to the main point

On topic: I would rather have MGS5 then either of these two

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morganfell - 112 days 7 hours ago

The Peacewalker team has the best piece of tech - Kojima full time.

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raztad - 112 days 6 hours ago

I'm almost sure Rising (multiplat) is being funded by MS money, and probably the revamped engine for the PS3 exclusive MGS5 (boasting even better visuals and native HD resolution) too. Funny.

I'm getting PW day one.

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Godmars290 - 112 days 6 hours ago

Still, its saying something that Kojima is *suppose* to be the head of of his own production company, and yet been assigned to the lesser dev crew? With the junior team getting the lion share of the resources. Not that they don't need them.

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Cold 2000 - 112 days 6 hours ago

Cant wait to get Rising on my XBOX 360 !!

Hope they show more at TGS.

Great to know Kojima is supervising and producing the game.
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Its only ten seconds and no gameplay...but has epic written all over it already.

RAIDEN-IS-BACK

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Sarick - 112 days 6 hours ago

"Still, its saying something that Kojima is *suppose* to be the head of of his own production company, and yet been assigned to the lesser dev crew? With the junior team getting the lion share of the resources. Not that they don't need them."

Perhaps he refused to work on the higher paying project that was multi-platform. If the higher ups where offered a great incentive they couldn't refuse the only alternative would be to replace the team with one that was willing to. Maybe, he didn't want to support something so the higher ups decided to do it with or without him by moving him to another project.

Honestly, it reminds me of how a company would punish a employees if they didn't agree with the higher ups interest. Take for instance, a large retail company that would rather close a store then let the employees of that store create a union. In this case instead of outright letting the employee go they'd throw them into another store.

I'm not saying this is the case but with everything I've heard about Kojima being pro Sony and the incentives offered by Microsoft. It's the first thing that popped in my head after reading Godmars290 comment to PirateThom.

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deeznuts - 112 days 5 hours ago

PirateThom, so you're saying MGS:Rising is like showing up at the strip club in Vegas at 8 am, you're not getting the goods? Lol

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MGSR THE HD VERSION - 112 days 4 hours ago

"the Rising team has access to more money and is working with higher-end technology and hardware specs."

so that basically means MGSR has a bigger budget.

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JokesOnYou - 112 days 4 hours ago

How is the progress on Metal Gear Solid: Rising going?

KOJIMA: "We're at an experiment level right now. We're doing a lot of experiments for Rising. But let me give you a hint at what's happening at KJP right now. I said this at GDC, as Kojima Productions, and for the Metal Gear Solid series as well, we always want to go to the next step beyond. And how we go up a step is really a big job actually. But what we're doing right now is making totally new, not just an overhaul, engines and A.I.s and things like that. Even the management and team formations that we have at Kojima Productions, we are changing this around. The core of it is, of course, the Rising team. So they're doing a lot of high-level stuff with great staffs. And that doesn't mean the guys who are making PSP are the shi$% staffs...it's not that. However, we have the core team who is doing real high-level experiments and alongside we have the PSP team, which are not really good friends right now, but in Kojima Productions and with Rising that is what's happening right now."

"The reason why I say they are not good friends is because the PSP is working day and night to make it even better than MGS4, but of course they can't do it because of a lot of restrictions. On the other hand, the Rising team is using loads of money and loads of capacity and hardware specs. If you could imagine the PSP team looking at the Rising team saying, they have all the money and specs. That's the one reason why they are not good friends."

"It's interesting for me to see the team members act in this way. This was never before because it was always just one small team. Now we are much bigger. So it's really interesting for me to watch the team right now."

-hmmmm, Kojima sounds very positive about Rising and seems to be playing a key role in its development, saying "we" and even going so far as to explain the "core team" is working on Rising doing some "high-level experiments"= Wow, I guess he really wasn't kidding waaay back when he said he wanted to work on 360 too.

Then he finishes with this statement:

So there's an internal competition between the two teams?

KOJIMA: "Well, we are creating a trailer for PSP like crazy. We give our best and think we did great, it looks great. But when we look at the Rising team we say, should we really keep creating PSP? Because the Rising graphics are so high quality."=

-Ouch!, that isn't exactly a great endorsement of the PSP game. wow...they always told me this guy was too honest. lol

JOY

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morganfell - 112 days 4 hours ago

It's a riot to watch all of the people that attacked MGS4 and Kojima now talk about Rising. ha ha, too much.

Here is the unbreakable rule no Snake means no Metal Gear game. I don't care what you call it.

Here is another rule. If Kojima isn't in the game up to his neck then that is just another reason it won't be Metal gear. There is one game in development right now that meets both criteria - Snake + Kojima to the hilt, and that game isn't Rising.

Rising isn't a standard Metal Gear game. "Rising will be more action oriented." Let me translate that, "Since standard Metal Gear game play and story lines require a higher intellectual grasp and reasoning ability, we are making a Metal Gear game with lots of bright lights, loud noises and and a simple story."

Will Rising look better than a PSP game? Why answer that? Is that all you have to brag about? You might as well talk about owning US sales when you are getting easily outpaced in the rest of the world. Oh wait, the Slim launched and the PS3 price cut is in effect so now all your base belong to us.

As long as we are talking about which one is bigger, care to discuss projected game length?

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Ausbo - 112 days 3 hours ago

KOJIMA: "Well, we are creating a trailer for PSP like crazy. We give our best and think we did great, it looks great. But when we look at the Rising team we say, should we really keep creating PSP? Because the Rising graphics are so high quality."

Kojima said it himself that rising looks great.

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JokesOnYou - 112 days 3 hours ago

"The reason why I say they are not good friends is because the PSP is working day and night to make it even better than MGS4, but of course they can't do it because of a lot of restrictions." -Kojima

-Thats real unfortunate that they have a lot of restrictions on the PSP version.

"On the other hand, the Rising team is using loads of money and loads of capacity and hardware specs. If you could imagine the PSP team looking at the Rising team saying, they have all the money and specs. That's the one reason why they are not good friends." -Kojima

-Well I'm sure when the PSP team get to work on the MGS Rising sequel they will kiss and make up....I'd be a lil jealous too knowing that so much is being put into Rising.

-Hell even Kojima said:
"But when we look at the Rising team we say, should we really keep creating PSP?" -Kojima

-I'm sure the PSP team will do just fine with what they have.

-Morgan I'm surprised that with all your INSIDE contacts that you never told us about whats going on behind the scenes at Kojima Productions.

JOY

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Whitefox789 - 112 days 3 hours ago

He really is too honest, I remember before MGS 4 came out he said he was disappointed with it, sheesh this guy is his own critic for his work....

And that's why I like him!

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morganfell - 112 days 2 hours ago

Not only is he honest but he is also never satisfied with his own efforts. Not a great many people like that in the industry. There are more Dyacks than anything.

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badz149 - 112 days 2 hours ago

Rising's graphic will surely 100% better than PW's because it's on HD consoles while PW is on PSP! "Rising on 360 and PS3 looks great and cost more money with higher tech - compared to PW on the PSP!" - yeah, that comparison sounds fair!

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Avenged Sevenfold - 112 days ago

Bleach sucks huh? Your opinion. You're probably one of those people that watches the anime before reading the manga.

On topic: I don't get why everyone thinks this will fail. It probably won't have the impact MGS4 did, but it's way too early to judge.

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likedamaster - 111 days 23 hours ago

It hurts you that Rising is coming to 360 as well, doesn't it?

I knock NO game before I try it. Rising will get its fair share of play before I judge it.

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apena89 - 111 days 17 hours ago

it doesnt hurt. it's not even a real MGS game!
what don't you guys understand?

Would it hurt you if Halo Wars went to the PS3? probably not, you guys would be saying the same thing; "IT'S NOT A REAL HALO GAME!"

Don't be sad because the xbox360 is getting a hack and slash "Ninja Raiden" game and not a true stealth action and espionage game featuring Snake. You guys are getting a "metal gear" game that will barely even touch the storyline while even the PSP gets what Kojima said himself is a true Metal Gear Solid game.

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cayal - 111 days 16 hours ago

360, ps3, I don't care. I want the Raiden game.

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Joey Greco RULES - 111 days 12 hours ago

wake me, when people stop b!tching about something that doesnt matter OR when N4G actually has some NEWS to read....

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TheKonspiracy - 112 days 7 hours ago

agreed, as soon as Kojima said he said he wasn't directly working on rising my hype for the game went down.

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PirateThom - 112 days 7 hours ago

That's exactly why I'm keeping my expectations low, it may well be a good game, but it will probably be a weak Metal Gear game.

@This guy

Why would I be sulking? PS3 got the real deal, a Kojima Produced, Directed and Written Metal Gear Solid as well as Rising. 360 had to rely on Konami to throw out a multiplatform Metal Gear Solid that is Metal Gear Solid in name only. No, I think 360 only owners should be the ones sulking, they didn't get MGS4.

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droid and bot - 112 days 7 hours ago

"Rising will disappoint everyone."

i agree

im a huge metal gear solid fan

and i got almost all of metal gear solid games

the thing is every game that kojima saty away from flops
and the other thing i really hated MGS:2 because of raiden
and the most thing i hated was the last part
where you have to use the sowrd
MGR is not a hack and slash game
we don't need swords
we want guns damn it

in MGS4 raiden only used his sword so i guess it will be the same in MGS:R

i don't know
but i'll rent it before i buy it

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nycredude - 112 days 6 hours ago

Xboxelite

What ever happened to "we don't want MGS4', "it's just a movie"?

Now you have MGS rising, which is a spin off NOT developed by Kojima and you're all happy.

It might end up being decent, but no freaking way is it going to rival the masterpieces that are MGS, MGS2, MGS3 and of course the most recent Grand Finale MGS4. Instead you get Metal Gear Solid Rising... Should be called Metal Gear Rising.

Besides what makes you think that This team will be able to make a game that looks better than ANYTHING on the ps3, when no other developers have been able to? Fact is nothing on the 360 looks as good as teh ps3 exclusives. Let's get real here already and take off the blinders.

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Pope_John_Paul_II - 112 days 6 hours ago

MGS4 is the greatest game of this Gen. Nuff said.

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Godmars290 - 112 days 6 hours ago

I'm Batman.

@PirateThom:
Question is what are people expecting from the game? More to the point, since the PS3 already obviously has, has anything on the 360 delivered anything equal in gameplay? That's the teller.

@Xbox360Elite:
Know its pretty much the same question I just asked Thom, but has any 360 exclusive delivered anything graphically close, or superior, to one on the PS3? That people are still talking about Uncharted should tell you something.

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Cold 2000 - 112 days 6 hours ago

"Rising will disappoint everyone."

I bet you've been praying real hard for it to be bad ever since u saw Kojima at the MS E3 conference.

But I know you know it will rock !!

Time to stop pretending guys ! MGS is multiplat now, time to accept it and move on.

MGS FTW !!!

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morganfell - 112 days 4 hours ago

Amen to that your royal Popeness.

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theEnemy - 112 days 3 hours ago

come on now..

I'm not a real fan of MGS:R going multiplat but that comment is just pure fanboyism bro.

I my self would like MGS:R to be like MGS4 or even better. If Peace Walker is on the PS3, then we can just disregard Rising.

;)

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DaTruth - 112 days 2 hours ago

Rising will be the GTA4 of MGS saga. It will come up short, even when compared to last gen!

But I am not a 360 fanboy, so I don't argue for low quality and give excuses for it; So, lets hope Kojima pulls a rabbit out of his hat and somehow makes a great game out of a multiplat. It's more than likely I'll buy both!

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Poopface the 2nd - 112 days 2 hours ago

shouldn't you "hardcore MGS fans" give them the benefit of the doubt and at least try it or see some of the game before labeling it as a huge disappointment?

I understand tho, any game that isnt a ps3 exclusive is a disappointment to you guys.

It seems that you people hope tha game sux, which is weird considering that it could be a great MG game that is also on PS3.

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PirateThom - 112 days 1 hour ago

Some of you people assume far too much. AS USUAL.

No, it will disappoint everyone because you're expecting MGS4 quality game that will push boundaries within its genre like MGS4 did, but it's being made by a junior team in Kojima Productions with little direct input from Kojima himself in a style which is a tangent to the standard MGS formula.

Metal Gear Ac!d was made by the non-core MGS team in a non-MGS style with little Kojima input, how many of you like that game?

Rising may have a bigger budget, but it doesn't have the proven talent to back it up. Personally, I would have given the Peace Walker team the bigger funds, they've proven themselves.

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Godmars290 - 111 days 23 hours ago

I'm not expecting anything for one. Not MGS anyway. If anything, a Ninja Gaiden clone with a few stealth elements set in the MGS universe.

It will probably fail in story, especially if it tries to make any strong connections to the main plot.

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Gamer1111 - 111 days 13 hours ago

it wont disappoint me... who are you to say that..oo yeah a blind fanboy.

good thing rising will outsell the psp mgs 5 to 1.

have fun using triangle x circle and square to aim in peace walker. only flaw of the psp...needs 2 analogs....but thats just me. your just mad that rising is on the xbox. if it was just ps3 you'd be bowing to it tom.....we all know your true colors and thats ok.....

but to say that everyone will be disappointed about rising(a game you know nothing about)....just makes you look like a 12 year old.

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Joey Greco RULES - 111 days 11 hours ago

So will the next "Twilight" movie, but will that millions of teenage girls from seeing it? Nope.

So will the next Jonas Brothers album, but will that stop millions of teenage girls from buying it? Nope.

Now, by no means, am I saying MGS fans are bunch of teenage girls---what I am saying, is that I think its still going to sell a lot of copies. And while a lot of people like to think sales dont matter, the question you have to ask is--sales dont matter to who? Maybe Rising will disappoint everyone EXCEPT for the Developers who create it, because they'll be smiling all the way to the bank. Just seems like everyone is so sure that this game is going to suck, but at the same time, you know everyone is still going to buy it. Doesn't make sense. :(

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PirateThom - 111 days 11 hours ago

Gamer1111, you're still making massive assumptions. Multiplatform, 360 exclusive, hell, whatever you want. If the "consoles it was on" was the issue, I'd say it "It sucks because it's on 360", but that would be a ridiculous argument.

No, my friend, I'm not that petty. My issue with the game is that it's not Metal Gear Solid in any way, shape or form. Metal Gear Ac!d didn't get to be called "Metal Gear Solid Ac!d" because it wasn't part of cannon. "Metal Gear Solid" on Game Boy Color, was called Metal Gear: Ghost Bable in Japan, because it wasn't cannon (Konami outside of Japan changed the title to make it linked to MGS on PS).

Calling it "Metal Gear Solid" doesn't make it "Metal Gear Solid".

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Saaking - 112 days 5 hours ago

Rising is nothing but a spinoff. I'll play it because it Kojima, but Peace Walker is the REAL thing.

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Cold 2000 - 112 days 5 hours ago

360 version for me !
I prefer the 360 pad.

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Saaking - 112 days 5 hours ago

The 360's dpad is the worst ever. I hope you're kidding you sad little bot. Enjoy the spinoff since you'll NEVER play what you bots really wanted, the masterpiece that is MGS4.

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Saaking - 112 days 5 hours ago

See, the bots accuse us of having multiple accounts yet you, a complete moron, have six.

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Foliage - 112 days ago

Also you can't fit it on a DVD, expect a 5 hour game with a lot of corridors like Gears. You can't pull off MGS4 on the 360.

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likedamaster - 111 days 23 hours ago

Doesn't take a genius to know what was wrong with MGS4. Corey's just being coy.

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Foliage - 110 days 1 hour ago

I know what you found wrong with it, that it wasn't on the 360. And no it doesn't take a genius, clearly you proved that. However apparently it does take a genius to see what is wrong with a product that has a 54.2% failure rate. Go figure.

Sensitive spot? I'm just stating the truth, don't let it get to you, you've hid from the truth for so long... just keep hiding.

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PlayStation X - 112 days 6 hours ago

and your a spotty little geek who is scared of hitting puberty.
now fck off

nobody disses kojima!!

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frnkyl - 112 days 5 hours ago

GASP Oh no you didn't... Cyborg Ninjas, Attack!!!!

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Mr Bean Laden - 112 days 6 hours ago

of course cause games these days don't care about the story and are all run n gun, i.e. the GeOW series

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 112 days 6 hours ago

wow hold the motherfvcking phone did you just insult Hideo Kojima ? the man is a God in the gaming industry if it wasn't for him games like Splinter Cell wouldn't exist Metal Gear created the stealth genre but i guess a little whiny piece of sh!t like you can't understand Kojima is one of the best developers out even the creator of Gears looks up to him i would slice your trout if i could no one disses Kojima and Peace Walker a PSP title will wipe the floor with Rising and Rising won't even beat MGS4 so go ahead and play with a transvestite emo robot that gets his @ss handed to him during fights and may every video game console you buy break

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frnkyl - 112 days 5 hours ago

Yea even the hardcore trolls wouldn't go as low as dissing Kojima.

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 112 days 4 hours ago

no one disses Kojima he's the man

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biggame901 - 112 days ago

It's one thing to not like MGS4; not your style, fine. But, insulting Hideo Kojima, one of the best and most respect developers of our generation. That's way over the line.

Frankly, you're a complete and utter idiot and a disgrace to gamers and gaming in general.

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Shadow017 - 112 days 6 hours ago

Finally patchstation boyfriend is down to 1bubble or maybe he'll just make another account like the rest of the bots.

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PlayStation X - 112 days 6 hours ago

its gonna be so embaressing when the game takes the piss out of xbox like mgs4 did xD

'snake' we need to swap the disks'

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frnkyl - 112 days 5 hours ago

Otacon: Snake we need to swap discs
Snake: Why? Aren't we using BluRay oh wait...

Kojima would so do that XD

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DRIIV - 112 days 6 hours ago

like you, I believe that is the only way you could have 6 bubbles with the comments you make.

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frnkyl - 112 days 6 hours ago

lol at the disagree. So Kojima didn't give Rising a trailer because it's his most important priority? Ok XD

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ZBlacktt - 111 days 23 hours ago

LOL, I list known facts on here and get disagree's as well, lol... I pay them no attention anymore.

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ia_studio - 111 days 22 hours ago

MUST....NOT...FEED....TROLL!!!

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 111 days 23 hours ago

>_> <_< aaahh i don't know if you've seen this  Mega 64 MGS4 but it looks like Kojima is a cool dude and gets along with ppl i don't think David Hater is angry your upset Kojima didn't ask him to write the movie but i think it would be better if he was part of MGS movie because he knows the character of Snake i don't think Kojima sold his soul because Rising isn't a real MGS game it probably has nothing to do with Snake and Kojima knows that and that's why he's doing Peace Walker because it has Snake i think he's just upset his crew isn't being well supported by Konami while he's making a true MGS while the rookie team is getting all the support for a spin off staring a gender confused emo robot punching bag

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ZOMBIEMAN1 - 111 days 22 hours ago

pissed Kojima prefers working on a true MGS game on PSP instead of a MGS spin off on 360 or that the closest thing to MGS you get is a whiny emo gender confused robot that constantly gets beaten up and now it's Sonybots i thought the correct term was droid it is written in the 360 fanboy bible "Thow shall call your hated enemy droids and you will let us charge you for XBL and do not go against our lord and savior Bill Gates if thow refuse thow shall get the RROD " last year whenever MGS4 rumors on 360 came up you guys got excited for that 20 hr long movie now that you get a Kojimaless MGS all of a sudden it sucks again but know this a Kojimaless MGS is never as good as a Hideo Kojima game . got 2 words for ya 360 freak , SUCK IT !!!!

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