Valve: Someone's always going to complain

locos85 - 127 days 11 hours ago

What's with all this Valve stuff lately?

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njr - 127 days 11 hours ago

"I don't want to develop for PS3! It's too hard! Its a waste of time! They should start over!"

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Leathersoup - 127 days 10 hours ago

Heh except that Valve isn't actually complaining about the PS3. They're explaining why they're not developing for the PS3 because the fans are complaining that the games aren't showing up.

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Leathersoup - 127 days 9 hours ago

Hahah Cry Some More!! Cry Some More..

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Dude420 - 127 days 9 hours ago

This comment is very true.

This is especially true on N4G, no matter how many times we've explained to the Valve haters the reason for not developing for PS3, they will always bash valve for being "Too lazy" and "Too Whiney".

Valve is a small development team and it wouldn't make any business sense to develop for the PS3. It's not because they can't do it, it's because there are no benefits developing for the PS3.

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HarukoHex - 127 days 5 hours ago

that and 90% of the ps3 population say "NO WE DON'T THAT PIECE OF CRAP GAME ON OUR SYSTEM ANYWAYS, WE HAVE KILLZONE, RESSISTENCE, MGS, BLAH BLAH BLAH, WHO NEEDS VALVE"

and those same ps3 fans wonder why valve won't make a game for the system, like all game devs, they have ears everywhere.

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SolidAhmed - 127 days 4 hours ago

that's some BS

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da720izcumin - 127 days 4 hours ago

the sony boys complain...
then they call them names...
then say they don't need valve...
then they go home and cry themselves to sleep...
to the 360 people that are complaining, grow up, either you buy the game or you don't.
no need to throw hissy fit about the sequel, when you get to play 2 great games while the sony kids.....lol

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jessupj - 127 days 1 hour ago

Do you hear many of us complaining that gears isn't on our system? Maybe that's because you didn't hear Epic yelling at the top of their voices that 'Ps3 sucks, it's a waste of time, sony should start over', And therefore you haven't heard the cries of the sony fans on that issue.

Please don't be so arrogant, you know this fact damn well yet here most of you are complaining about complaining fanboys who think they got butthurt because they can't play valve games. Can you see the irony?

We wouldn't be having the discussion if instead of saying would valve did, they said
'The 360 has very similar architecture to the pc and that is why we can easy port our games to that platform. However we are a small team and it wouldn't be a financially smart idea at this point in time to port our games to the ps3'

So please tell me why we arn't butt hurt at any other exclusive 3rd party 360 games?

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rockleex - 127 days 1 hour ago

No one bashes Epic for not bringing Gears to the PS3. Because Epic hasn't bashed the PS3.

No one bashes Ubisoft for not bringing Spinter Cell Conviction to the PS3.

Here's a link to Gabe's comments about the PS3. He doesn't even talk about how difficult it is to program for the PS3. He just straight up bashes it.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

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YogiBear - 127 days 1 hour ago

Valve has always had an elitist attitude. Some would call it confidence but I call it simple arrogance. I'm not one to complain about what system they develop for because I don't give a sh!t. They made my favorite FPS of all time(Half-Life) but that does not mean I have to worship their company or their professional conduct. Gabe Newell has said very dumb things about not just the PS3 but consoles in general for as long as Valve has been a company. You guys think everyone is out to defend the Playstation from Valve but your short sighted. The Left 4 this series is technically the only franchise has worked on this generation and if that's the case you can keep Valve. I have all three systems by the way.

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thesummerofgeorge - 127 days ago

And they'd be well advised to listen to those complaints.

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Raz - 127 days ago

And across the forum, there's an article quoting Valve as looking for good PS3 coders.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

Oh, the irony...

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FamilyGuy - 126 days 23 hours ago

"The game is more than worth the price tag so shut up."

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Dude420 - 126 days 20 hours ago

Look at all you guys trying to bash Valve, again coming up with BS that just seems to fitting to you only. You know what you guys remind me of, Simple Jack, that's right...Simple Jack.

"Bu...Bu...Mamma! Dey said dat they dun like dat PS3 no moe!!! Dey said du...du...dumb tings about dat PS3 mamma!!!!"

Let me make more sense of what's happening, and hopefully you will comprehend this. The reason why Valve doesn't develop for PS3 is because they are a small team and a dedicated PC developing company. Taking the time to switch from PC to PS3 wastes a lot of time AND money, so it wouldn't make sense.

When Valve develops a game, their primary platform is the PC, the ONLY reason their games come on the 360 is because...you guessed it, the 360 has similar architecture to the PC, so it's an easy port. Their engine on the PS3 however, will end up in a huge mess, just like TF2.

Whenever I see people bashing Valve, it will always be related to the console wars, PC always gets left out. If any of Valve's games never existed on the 360, these arguments would never exist.

Now since it's known that Valve are looking for PS3 coders, it seems like they ARE taking an interest in the PS3. If it works out, shouldn't we all be happy that their games are coming on all platforms (except for Wii)? Why hate on Valve when they decide what they think is right?

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DR0Z0 - 126 days 13 hours ago

"Someone's always going to complain"

In this case, over 37,000+ people are going to complain.

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jdktech2010 - 127 days 11 hours ago

That's your opinion but I'm pretty sure the people who have played the heck out of L4D think they got their money's worth out of it. I don't have the first just because I didnt have the money to get it but I'm gonna buy the 2nd one day one so I could care less

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ASSASSYN 36o - 127 days 10 hours ago

I know I got my money worth out of it. L4D was a blast to play.

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vx - 127 days 10 hours ago

as long as they can f00l ppl and those every same ppz will still pay for it again,, yah it will be $60. easy money baby ill do the same thing if i got da chance :D whta more fun than developing DLC based game in less than 5 months and sale it for da price of a full game (1-3 years of development)? ill go with the former one hahaha F00L da F00Ls and get der $$

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kissmeimgreek - 127 days 2 hours ago

i know i got my moneys worth pput of it. i got the game in november and have yet to grow bored of any campaigns and ill be plaing it until next november and know that im still getting my moneys worth.

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DuneBuggy - 127 days 10 hours ago

Uhh..What reason would that be again?

Valve announced no more support for L4D? Actually I read differently from them. Whos right?
Game feels unfinished? Its the highest rated,still popular to this day "unfinished game" ive ever seen.
I think ole Chet jokingly made a legitiment point.

Oh and maybe the PC is where the parties at.
But im not into Michael Jackson mods,user created RE inspired levels, or being able to play as a nude Zoey.
This "elitest" PC mentality is silly IMO. Looking down upon the console owners....
Games fun to me in its original form, and thats all that really matters to ME.

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Baka-akaB - 127 days 10 hours ago

Well you knew you'd get less content in a 360 version anyway , and still got it .

If you cared that much about the extra content , you'd have bought the PC version , or no version then .

The game isnt fun because of some free or paid dlcs , it already in it's bare and naked state . If it aint so for you guys , maybe you shouldnt have bought a game just because it's popular , tried it first , and ponder instead weither or not getting the game is worth it to begin with .

This is getting silly , if you dont enjoy the game already in it's original state , you wont magically start loving it with freebies and dlcs .

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kissmeimgreek - 127 days 2 hours ago

i got the 360 version and love it. i have yet to see any mod that on the PC version that really sets the two ersions apart. and sure id be glad to get it on PC but i dont feel like wasting 100s of dollars to update myPC and have to constantly update my hardware every few months. the 360s fine for me IMO

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Baka-akaB - 127 days 9 hours ago

When did you decide the standards of what's good enough to be put in a dlc or sequel ?

From the infos we got and seen already , wich btw arent even yet the complete list of additions and modes ..
You got some quite massive tweaks to the gameplay , besides new contents .

GTA and fallout dlc are "just" more content , even if thankfully enough , big chunks of it . But that's the thing , they dont rewrite the engine , dont change the gameplay , dont add suddenly daylight , retools their entire AI , new hitbox for damages on the zombies .

The irony is , could they , and had they done it in dlc instead , I bet you'd see people complaint about the changes making it a new game .
Just like i bet some people wont necessarily likes the changes , coming from L4D to l4d2 .

Anyway despite the early outbust , from some people not even privy to the already released infos about L4D2 ... pretty much all the presses and those who actually had their hands on it , agree that it's new enough to be a sequel .

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pippoppow - 127 days 4 hours ago

Some people like yourself may not mind paying full price for a sequel with small improvements but many like myself will not supports a money hungry grab like this. You can take most games and improve it within a year and sell it as a full sequel but is this what most gamers want? I don't think so. Good thing for those who will not support this practice will most likely be able to enjoy similar levels through mods. At least on a PC. Good thing some of the best PC games are also on the 360 as the console kids seem to gooble up most anything thrown at them like rabid dogs with no consumer conscience.

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shysun - 127 days 10 hours ago

It's not exclusive..........

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DuneBuggy - 127 days 10 hours ago

Yes because we all know PC people who enjoy modding their games and such,could NEVER figure out how to inflate a unscientific internet poll.
Wait for the sales numbers.
Unless the game bombs in reviews (and people who have already played just a part of it at E3 dont think so), I'd expect it to top the first one.

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Baka-akaB - 127 days 9 hours ago

Who cares if it's inflated or true ?

polls are just that polls . it doesnt tell you what % of those boycotters will actually by the game despite all the ruckus .

My take is that when someone is infatuated enough with a game to start or sign a petition to complain about a feature or lack of feature (l4d2 , starcraft 2 .... Diablo 3 ...) ... it's too late .

They are far too involved and addicted enough to buy the game anyway .

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